Lockdown at Blair?

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Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.

Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.

I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.

I never understood this argument. When we go to government buildings, conventions, or concerts, there are armed police officers guarding those places. We don't associate these places with prisons. Why do you call it prison when all we want to do is ensure safety for all students just like those adults in the government buildings? These are KIDS. Why should kids have less protection than adults?????

One activity we do has police there every week. When we went to concerts there was a heavy police presence. When we go to the military base, there are armed guards. We can keep other places safe, just not our schools.

And it's not like our high schools have 50 students. We're talking a couple of thousand. We don't even have metal detectors and yet, we can't have police officers to make sure we don't hurt students' feelings? Have we lost our effing mind!?

Back when I was a kid student's brought rifles, to attend NRA club after school. This was around here. Ten minutes outside of DC. We didn't need metal detectors. This SRO fixation seems like madness.

back when I was a kid we didn't have mass school shootings. Things have changed, grandpa or grandma.

That’s because family units were in tact, children were going to church, temple, had no cell phones, internet or video games pushing violence, sex, lgbtq , drugs, porn etc.

? divorce rates, deadbeat dads, and drugs were pretty prevalent in the 80s, too. And please.. lgbtq has nothing to do with mass shootings.

Columbine happened pre- social media, and I believe the shooters had an "intact" family.

-50 yr old Christian

It’s all excuses and deflection. This is why we have the problems we do.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.

Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.

I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.

I never understood this argument. When we go to government buildings, conventions, or concerts, there are armed police officers guarding those places. We don't associate these places with prisons. Why do you call it prison when all we want to do is ensure safety for all students just like those adults in the government buildings? These are KIDS. Why should kids have less protection than adults?????

One activity we do has police there every week. When we went to concerts there was a heavy police presence. When we go to the military base, there are armed guards. We can keep other places safe, just not our schools.

And it's not like our high schools have 50 students. We're talking a couple of thousand. We don't even have metal detectors and yet, we can't have police officers to make sure we don't hurt students' feelings? Have we lost our effing mind!?

Back when I was a kid student's brought rifles, to attend NRA club after school. This was around here. Ten minutes outside of DC. We didn't need metal detectors. This SRO fixation seems like madness.

back when I was a kid we didn't have mass school shootings. Things have changed, grandpa or grandma.

That’s because family units were in tact, children were going to church, temple, had no cell phones, internet or video games pushing violence, sex, lgbtq , drugs, porn etc.

Yea sure there was “less crime” in the 80’s. Most rapes were church leaders but go live in your alternate universe!

The conversation was about mass shootings but keep on with your anti Catholic rhetoric, bigot.

Nope! I'm Catholic and a Catholic can't have anti-Catholic rhetoric.

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Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.

Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need

And that is what we have now and it’s not working.

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Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.

Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need

And that is what we have now and it’s not working.

So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.

[Anonymous]

MCPS is failing to educate our kids and to keep them safe. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is suggesting any new solutions except dads in the school, which may help but not if it’s not stable regular dads the kids know and those dads ares willing to act as guards.

Maybe we need to hold parents accountable. Your kid acts up in school, you have to accompany and supervise them till they can show they can behave.

I'm against making schools into prisons. If you treat kids like convicts, they'll probably act like it.

I never understood this argument. When we go to government buildings, conventions, or concerts, there are armed police officers guarding those places. We don't associate these places with prisons. Why do you call it prison when all we want to do is ensure safety for all students just like those adults in the government buildings? These are KIDS. Why should kids have less protection than adults?????

One activity we do has police there every week. When we went to concerts there was a heavy police presence. When we go to the military base, there are armed guards. We can keep other places safe, just not our schools.

And it's not like our high schools have 50 students. We're talking a couple of thousand. We don't even have metal detectors and yet, we can't have police officers to make sure we don't hurt students' feelings? Have we lost our effing mind!?

Back when I was a kid student's brought rifles, to attend NRA club after school. This was around here. Ten minutes outside of DC. We didn't need metal detectors. This SRO fixation seems like madness.

back when I was a kid we didn't have mass school shootings. Things have changed, grandpa or grandma.

That’s because family units were in tact, children were going to church, temple, had no cell phones, internet or video games pushing violence, sex, lgbtq , drugs, porn etc.

? divorce rates, deadbeat dads, and drugs were pretty prevalent in the 80s, too. And please.. lgbtq has nothing to do with mass shootings.

Columbine happened pre- social media, and I believe the shooters had an "intact" family.

-50 yr old Christian

It’s all excuses and deflection. This is why we have the problems we do.

I remember kids bringing 22's to school for rifle club at McLean HS back in the 80s. Things weren't that different than today. Just none of this helicoptering with SROs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is failing to educate our kids and to keep them safe. Period.

They're doing a much better job today than 30 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is failing to educate our kids and to keep them safe. Period.

They're doing a much better job today than 30 years ago.

Oh my God. YOu are so wrong. I went to MCPS 30 years ago and things were MUCH MUCH different. Let me give you a hint. It was better before.

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Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.

Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need

And that is what we have now and it’s not working.

So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.

No, the SROs we're not doing a damn thing besides seating in their desks. Once they got bored, they walked the hallways harassing, roughing minorities. What " multiple of other services" the SROs were doing?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.

Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need

And that is what we have now and it’s not working.

So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.

Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.

Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need

And that is what we have now and it’s not working.

So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.

Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.

First off, no one with an education/child psychology background wants to be a glorified security guard. Second, SRO's are about policing, not mental health. If you want more mental health in the schools, advocate for that but fixing the mental health issues start at home with involved responsive parents. Schools cannot be everything to everyone and physical safety is important.

So, since they aren't hiring more mental health workers who will not get in the middle of a fight, what do you propose to do about the increasing violence in the schools? How about we start by YOU volunteering 10 hours a week patrolling the hallways like one high school is asking parents to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is failing to educate our kids and to keep them safe. Period.

They're doing a much better job today than 30 years ago.

Oh my God. YOu are so wrong. I went to MCPS 30 years ago and things were MUCH MUCH different. Let me give you a hint. It was better before.

I went to school in the 70's and 80's and I can tell you there were more fight (just cops were not called), drugs in the hallways (it was expected, nobody cared), kids drinking (it was legal at 18), kids drinking and driving, girls being raped (nobody cared).

There were gangs in Rockville... the "brook boys" and I can't remember the name of the other gang.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is failing to educate our kids and to keep them safe. Period.

They're doing a much better job today than 30 years ago.

Oh my God. YOu are so wrong. I went to MCPS 30 years ago and things were MUCH MUCH different. Let me give you a hint. It was better before.

Its all a matter of perspective. I don't think its better. It wasn't very good when I went. You were just lucky you didn't see what was going on. They just didn't have social media, cameras, etc. to document things and it was much easier to cover up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is failing to educate our kids and to keep them safe. Period.

+1 million

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many times were kids arrested at school? Of those, what were the reasons for the arrest? only with this info can we determine if black kids are unfairly targeted. Why is this info not published anywhere?

People love to ignore the data because it does not support their agenda. Bottom line only 3% of arrests at MCPS were initiated by SROs.

- only 27 physical arrests out of 269 were made in 2019-2020. Physical arrests are only for serious crimes like felonies, gang activity, hate crimes, etc
- the remainder of the "arrests" are "on paper" which means the student is detained by MCPS in the office and the SRO is called. He/she then issues a citation that does not go on the student's record and they are referred for counseling or other restorative outcome
- Only 3% of the arrests are initiated by SROs if they see serious crimes occurring; the rest are initiated by MCPS

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

Based on this data, I don't see a trend that supports the school-to-prison pipeline at MCPS.

Who do you think calls the cops for the other 97%?

Why do I have to think when it's right there in the document. It says that 97% were initiated by MCPS administrators, MCPS security, and parents. Reading is fundamental. I even summarized it above.

Sorry I missed that. But thanks for showing that SRO’s are not necessary and statistically useless. Clearly administrators, parents and security are all we need

And that is what we have now and it’s not working.

So as an anti-SRO, you now can admit that SRO's are not in the schools to send kids to prison. In fact, they are there to provide a multitude of other services which are NO longer being done today because the reality is admin, parents, and security are not trained nor do they have the time to do the job that the SROs were doing. That is why we now have surpassed the number of calls to the police due to assaults at MCPS in these past 2 months than the entire 2019-2020 school year. Let's stop with this bullsh*t and start acting like grown adults. Bring the SROs back. Our kids are suffering.

Well now that we know SRO's don't need police powers since they are not policing. Hire somebody with an education/child psychology background to do the job.

First off, no one with an education/child psychology background wants to be a glorified security guard. Second, SRO's are about policing, not mental health. If you want more mental health in the schools, advocate for that but fixing the mental health issues start at home with involved responsive parents. Schools cannot be everything to everyone and physical safety is important.

So, since they aren't hiring more mental health workers who will not get in the middle of a fight, what do you propose to do about the increasing violence in the schools? How about we start by YOU volunteering 10 hours a week patrolling the hallways like one high school is asking parents to do.

If you can train a cop (with 2 years of community college education) to work in a school, you can train somebody with a 4 year degree at a university to police.

I have worked in the schools, my H is a cop and has been in the schools too, and knows the SRO's personally.

SRO's are useless undereducated washouts. Maybe if you implemented them with value they would not have been removed. You blew the chance to have SRO's and now you live with the consequence.