Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

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Anonymous wrote:Listen up, the person who posted at 22:37 is a very experienced person in the game to know what he (or she) knows.

Yes, they copied it from an internet interview. Google it. Blah, blah, blah. Fool.

Was that when you were googling to find out who Zidane, Figo and Rivaldo were ?

No, just making clear for douchebags like u who don't play soccer. Lol

I guarantee I played at a much higher level than you

Clap, clap, clap. That's why you are on an Urban Mom board living your HS soccer glory thru your son ////// lol ////// does not excuse you from being a DB, which u are.

Actually, it's a daughter. I come here to rile people like you up. Though--I'm usually the one throwing around "douchebag". Please cease using my catch soccer dad insult.

And you are here because...your wife has your nuts in her handbag?

Flush ... now you can get your ballweld fixed and grow a pair, former bigtime HS baller. You blowhards are the problem with youth soccer. Put your trainers and sambas on and get out there and watch a game Daddy Sideline

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As the parents on this thread have largely reinforced, they prefer a soccer combine tryout---like American football. Yes, because, that recognizes great soccer players. .

Um ... no. Most clubs don't do that. Most parents don't want that.

You're right about kids not watching enough soccer. That's not the coaches' fault.

And to follow up on this, since we've talked about checking clubs' sites for tryouts ...

Most clubs are at least going to claim that they stress development over winning. They'll all say they're "club-centric" or "player-centric" rather than "team-centric." They may also tout a technical director's often-dubious claims to having learned his craft at Ajax or Barcelona or some name that inspires confidence.

They all know what they're supposed to say. In games and maybe in training, they'll fall well short of their promises. But at tryouts, they're at least going to make an effort so they can plausibly *say* they're looking at skill.

So they'll split you up into small-sided games and take the athletically dominant kids, at least at the younger ages. But they're not out there testing vertical leaps, bench-press reps and shuttle runs like an NFL combine.

I agree. They will also stress that there will be lots of fluid player movements over the next few years as the kids develop---even though the age group head or TD never again looks at the kids on any of the lower teams and they don't give much weight to recs from lower team coaches.

You have to tell them what they want to hear. They aren't dumb. I'll give them that.

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Man, after reading this blog, I am truly not looking forward to moving back from Europe with my DD.

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Anonymous wrote:Man, after reading this blog, I am truly not looking forward to moving back from Europe with my DD.

Don't do it!!!

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As the parents on this thread have largely reinforced, they prefer a soccer combine tryout---like American football. Yes, because, that recognizes great soccer players. .

Um ... no. Most clubs don't do that. Most parents don't want that.

You're right about kids not watching enough soccer. That's not the coaches' fault.

And to follow up on this, since we've talked about checking clubs' sites for tryouts ...

Most clubs are at least going to claim that they stress development over winning. They'll all say they're "club-centric" or "player-centric" rather than "team-centric." They may also tout a technical director's often-dubious claims to having learned his craft at Ajax or Barcelona or some name that inspires confidence.

They all know what they're supposed to say. In games and maybe in training, they'll fall well short of their promises. But at tryouts, they're at least going to make an effort so they can plausibly *say* they're looking at skill.

So they'll split you up into small-sided games and take the athletically dominant kids, at least at the younger ages. But they're not out there testing vertical leaps, bench-press reps and shuttle runs like an NFL combine.

I agree. They will also stress that there will be lots of fluid player movements over the next few years as the kids develop---even though the age group head or TD never again looks at the kids on any of the lower teams and they don't give much weight to recs from lower team coaches.

You have to tell them what they want to hear. They aren't dumb. I'll give them that.

The NFL combine is so over blown. The successful general managers do not put much stock in the combine. They look at tape and see how the player plays. The combine scores are use to justify bad picks. It is funny the way people talk about size and speed being selected in American soccer. US men's team home grown players are slow and average height for their position. You would think there would be some home grown player with world class speed with all the emphasis on speed?

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Anonymous wrote:Man, after reading this blog, I am truly not looking forward to moving back from Europe with my DD.

THIS is what makes you worried about moving back from Europe? Read any U.S. news sites lately?

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Anonymous wrote:Man, after reading this blog, I am truly not looking forward to moving back from Europe with my DD.

THIS is what makes you worried about moving back from Europe? Read any U.S. news sites lately?

Then dont. Problem solved.

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Anonymous wrote:Club soccer is worthless for developing a young player.

We have pulled our kids out of Club (and they were at a 'selective' club) for academy style training and they have developed light years over their peers that used to be at a somewhat similar technical level.

What's even more idiotic is the a**hole that keeps coming on here to list 'selective' Clubs. This is all for parental bragging rights. Yet--many players made those clubs and turned them down. Training is what matters. Period.

Some of the clubs listed as 'non-selective' have crushed our 'selective' club in games. Size of player pool tells you nothing. In fact, the larger it is, often the least amount of personal attention is devoted to any single player in the Club. If your kid is further down the totem pole at a selective club, you are better placing them somewhere else.

very true. one main coach in arlington heads red and white, and if your player is not one of those ~20 youngsters, you might as well play for a less selctive club at u9. you will get more attention and development.

- so it should be

So it is really 180 boys for 22 spots.

Not all of the 22 selected accept their spot. I know kids that moved into that upper group when some players in the top 22 chose to develop elsewhere. There can be a lot of shuffling in the week following first offers. It helps if your kid did the academy training the year before--unless they had severe behavior issues which became evident and then it could actually have the opposite effect.

They are 8 though. Relax everyone. This means very little for what they'll turn out to be by 16. It's been pointed out repeatedly that a good majority of A team kids aren't there a few years down the road.

Were those players that signed up for U8 Academy the same ones that Arlington made special U8 winter camp sessions for and that were invite-only?

The U8 academy does a Fall and Spring session and does pick around 22 or so kids for a separate indoor winter session. Not all of the kids that do the winter session end up in the top 22. As far as I know, the tryouts run interdependent of the Academy. There are many kids that make it that never did the Academy training is not a requirement. It does improve the kids' ball skills and it can help a kid get noticed since some of the evaluators are the same. However, sometimes it has the opposite effect. They see the kid for a full year and some of the traits they see work against them and they might have been better showing up as a 'wild card' at tryouts. Again, if you only care about personal development of your own kids (which is the only thing you should be concerned about)---do the training if it fits in your schedule and don't look into the future or over-think this or that. Everyone knows everyone in these groups so it is easy to get caught up focusing on the wrong things and playing the game of comparison when you really should only be worried about your OWN child.

Arlington U9 tryouts start tomorrow yet the club has already identified the "top 22" players to fill its A and B rosters? There will be some disappointed families. Families of the 22 players who get a wake-up call from the competition they didn't expect, and families showing up from the U8 rec divisions who had no idea teams were already mapped out. PremierAC on the other thread, well!

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^^that us what is stated above. The academy runs separate--not all of the 22 make the top 22. Only about 1/4-1/2 in the past. No surprises. They don't guarantee anything. But there also weren't a lot of hidden Messi's showing up out of the blue if that's what you are alluding to. Most were familiar kids.

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http://www.arlingtonsoccer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ATS-Tryout-2017-2018.pdf

For u10 plus

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I coached the rising U9 boys in arlington a number of years ago. By the time tryouts came, I had already spent the spring attending house leage games of every boys team and inviting certain players to tryouts. I also knew some kids from after school soccer programs in falls church / baileys crossroads and let tell you, theres some real talent there.

A few kids did not pan out because of family issues (single working parent / messy family situation, central american immigrant family living in baileys crossroads that didnt own a car, couldnt make the time commitment).

However there were several more hispanic kids from the border areas of arlington & alexandria that showed up out of nowhere. Most of the kids whose parents had signed them up for all the extra training that the club offers were put on Blue (the #3 team). It was a shock to a lot of people and some talent didnt make the cut. But when the talent is that good at the top, the suburban kid without truly special talent who has been signed up for everything as expected is a a 3rd tier player in Arlington since there are so many kids here.

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^^not sure what year you were there but a few years ago (when there were 4 teams, not 6) there were only 2 Hispanics in the entire boys Group. Arlington always has very "white" teams. Maybe things have changed since we left.

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Anonymous wrote:I coached the rising U9 boys in arlington a number of years ago. By the time tryouts came, I had already spent the spring attending house leage games of every boys team and inviting certain players to tryouts. I also knew some kids from after school soccer programs in falls church / baileys crossroads and let tell you, theres some real talent there.

A few kids did not pan out because of family issues (single working parent / messy family situation, central american immigrant family living in baileys crossroads that didnt own a car, couldnt make the time commitment).

However there were several more hispanic kids from the border areas of arlington & alexandria that showed up out of nowhere. Most of the kids whose parents had signed them up for all the extra training that the club offers were put on Blue (the #3 team). It was a shock to a lot of people and some talent didnt make the cut. But when the talent is that good at the top, the suburban kid without truly special talent who has been signed up for everything as expected is a a 3rd tier player in Arlington since there are so many kids here.

Hey, that's better than participating in every extra session Vienna offers and then not making the fourth team.

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Anonymous wrote:I coached the rising U9 boys in arlington a number of years ago. By the time tryouts came, I had already spent the spring attending house leage games of every boys team and inviting certain players to tryouts. I also knew some kids from after school soccer programs in falls church / baileys crossroads and let tell you, theres some real talent there.

A few kids did not pan out because of family issues (single working parent / messy family situation, central american immigrant family living in baileys crossroads that didnt own a car, couldnt make the time commitment).

However there were several more hispanic kids from the border areas of arlington & alexandria that showed up out of nowhere. Most of the kids whose parents had signed them up for all the extra training that the club offers were put on Blue (the #3 team). It was a shock to a lot of people and some talent didnt make the cut. But when the talent is that good at the top, the suburban kid without truly special talent who has been signed up for everything as expected is a a 3rd tier player in Arlington since there are so many kids here.

Hey, that's better than participating in every extra session Vienna offers and then not making the fourth team.

Sound like typical Arlington liberals...STFU. Are the Hispanic kids not suburban kids? Or are you assuming they are poor children raised by maids? And let me guess...they're good at soccer because they are Hispanic...right? Hummm...who is good at dancing?

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Anonymous wrote:I coached the rising U9 boys in arlington a number of years ago. By the time tryouts came, I had already spent the spring attending house leage games of every boys team and inviting certain players to tryouts. I also knew some kids from after school soccer programs in falls church / baileys crossroads and let tell you, theres some real talent there.

A few kids did not pan out because of family issues (single working parent / messy family situation, central american immigrant family living in baileys crossroads that didnt own a car, couldnt make the time commitment).

However there were several more hispanic kids from the border areas of arlington & alexandria that showed up out of nowhere. Most of the kids whose parents had signed them up for all the extra training that the club offers were put on Blue (the #3 team). It was a shock to a lot of people and some talent didnt make the cut. But when the talent is that good at the top, the suburban kid without truly special talent who has been signed up for everything as expected is a a 3rd tier player in Arlington since there are so many kids here.

Hey, that's better than participating in every extra session Vienna offers and then not making the fourth team.

Sound like typical Arlington liberals...STFU. Are the Hispanic kids not suburban kids? Or are you assuming they are poor children raised by maids? And let me guess...they're good at soccer because they are Hispanic...right? Hummm...who is good at dancing?

Yes. The Germans and Dutch are horrible soccer players because they aren't from Latin America. Yea--pretty much the mindset.