Fairfax County Double Murder

[Anonymous]

Which one was Tess?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The sheer indignity of Christine's death enrages me. By all accounts she was kind, smart, hardworking, dedicated to her family and job. She dealt with being married to a cheating POS for her daughter's sake. She made majority of the household income and spent her free time finding fun things to do with her daughter. And this arrogant, nasty, soft pasty "man" not only murders her in cold blood, but he sets her up in such a disgusting way. To make it look like she wants to be raped, to say she was turned on by her job as a sexual assault nurse, to call her a cheater without a shred of evidence. What on earth could this woman have done to deserve such indignity?!?!

+1. I'm actually shocked that the defense is having him testify. He's unlikeable and his story is implausible. He also seems remorseless. Judge is going to eat him alive at sentencing.

As mentioned by a previous poster the defense had to have him testify because they had no real evidence of Christine cheating or being in to kinky sex and whatever horrible stuff he had to say about her. They needed his testimony to try to make that real. The defense needed that creep with the most bizarre hairline ever seen to testify that Christine was all this bad stuff to try to counter the prosecution's evidence that he and the nanny created the online accounts etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sheer indignity of Christine's death enrages me. By all accounts she was kind, smart, hardworking, dedicated to her family and job. She dealt with being married to a cheating POS for her daughter's sake. She made majority of the household income and spent her free time finding fun things to do with her daughter. And this arrogant, nasty, soft pasty "man" not only murders her in cold blood, but he sets her up in such a disgusting way. To make it look like she wants to be raped, to say she was turned on by her job as a sexual assault nurse, to call her a cheater without a shred of evidence. What on earth could this woman have done to deserve such indignity?!?!

Not to mention apparently coaching the child to call the au pair- who helped set up her murder- “mommy” within hours of her mother’s death. That’s one of the lowest points for me

It shows how depraved and disgusting the nanny is. Can't believe the damn deal she got.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sheer indignity of Christine's death enrages me. By all accounts she was kind, smart, hardworking, dedicated to her family and job. She dealt with being married to a cheating POS for her daughter's sake. She made majority of the household income and spent her free time finding fun things to do with her daughter. And this arrogant, nasty, soft pasty "man" not only murders her in cold blood, but he sets her up in such a disgusting way. To make it look like she wants to be raped, to say she was turned on by her job as a sexual assault nurse, to call her a cheater without a shred of evidence. What on earth could this woman have done to deserve such indignity?!?!

Not to mention apparently coaching the child to call the au pair- who helped set up her murder- “mommy” within hours of her mother’s death. That’s one of the lowest points for me

It shows how depraved and disgusting the nanny is. Can't believe the damn deal she got.

What deal did she get?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sheer indignity of Christine's death enrages me. By all accounts she was kind, smart, hardworking, dedicated to her family and job. She dealt with being married to a cheating POS for her daughter's sake. She made majority of the household income and spent her free time finding fun things to do with her daughter. And this arrogant, nasty, soft pasty "man" not only murders her in cold blood, but he sets her up in such a disgusting way. To make it look like she wants to be raped, to say she was turned on by her job as a sexual assault nurse, to call her a cheater without a shred of evidence. What on earth could this woman have done to deserve such indignity?!?!

Not to mention apparently coaching the child to call the au pair- who helped set up her murder- “mommy” within hours of her mother’s death. That’s one of the lowest points for me

It shows how depraved and disgusting the nanny is. Can't believe the damn deal she got.

What deal did she get?

Time served + up to 10 years imprisonment, decided by the Judge. The Prosecution has suggested to release her on time served, after which she will be deported back home to Brazil.

[Anonymous]

I’m probably the only one here saying this, but I’m betting he is found not guilty.

[Anonymous]

Odds of conviction, anyone??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m probably the only one here saying this, but I’m betting he is found not guilty.

respectfully, i’d say there’s very little chance of a not guilty verdict. i’d say there’s is a chance of a hung jury.

[Anonymous]

Regarding the audio, and the CW's rebuttal expert vs. the defense guy who testified about the dog noise: am I understanding correctly that the CW expert listened to the first 911 call, and heard a human voice on there after he isolated some of the noises? So that audio is theoretically available to anyone based on the exhibits released, and who has the correct software?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The sheer indignity of Christine's death enrages me. By all accounts she was kind, smart, hardworking, dedicated to her family and job. She dealt with being married to a cheating POS for her daughter's sake. She made majority of the household income and spent her free time finding fun things to do with her daughter. And this arrogant, nasty, soft pasty "man" not only murders her in cold blood, but he sets her up in such a disgusting way. To make it look like she wants to be raped, to say she was turned on by her job as a sexual assault nurse, to call her a cheater without a shred of evidence. What on earth could this woman have done to deserve such indignity?!?!

Not to mention apparently coaching the child to call the au pair- who helped set up her murder- “mommy” within hours of her mother’s death. That’s one of the lowest points for me

It shows how depraved and disgusting the nanny is. Can't believe the damn deal she got.

Should have got her a better lawyer, Tess.

Just kidding, I agree that there is something seriously wrong with both Juliana and Brendan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m probably the only one here saying this, but I’m betting he is found not guilty.

respectfully, i’d say there’s very little chance of a not guilty verdict. i’d say there’s is a chance of a hung jury.

I agree. This is not the professional operation that the Karen Read trial was.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brendan testified that Joe said something like, “she’s given herself to me, she is mine.”

Some posters have mentioned that Joe liked to participate in role playing games. Is it at all possible that, if Joe did actually say something like that, that he thought that this was some kind of role play, and so he just went along with what he believed was a scene that they were all playing? So maybe he could have thought the man with a gun yelling, “Police!” was just playing a par?

And? BB and JB knew what was happening. BB and JM killed Joe and Christine. Your weird speculation doesn’t change the crime scene for forensics.

Oh, I don’t think it changes the crime scene or forensics at all. I was just thinking that this innocent man thought he was involved in a completely consensual situation and then this guy bursts in with a guy, and he’s thinking this was just part of it? He had no idea what was really going on.

The whole thing is so sad for him and Christine. It is sickening what happened to them.

Gotcha- sorry I misunderstood what you were saying. Yes it is sickening and depraved. Considering all of the calculation that went into planning Christine's horrific death and framing Joe really shows who BB and JM are. If that isn't pure evil I don't know what it is.

Juliana's deal doesn't sit well with anyone, but when you descend into hell and go after the devil you are going to have to make a deal with a demon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regarding the audio, and the CW's rebuttal expert vs. the defense guy who testified about the dog noise: am I understanding correctly that the CW expert listened to the first 911 call, and heard a human voice on there after he isolated some of the noises? So that audio is theoretically available to anyone based on the exhibits released, and who has the correct software?

YES
And someone linked to the audiofile a few pages back

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m probably the only one here saying this, but I’m betting he is found not guilty.

respectfully, i’d say there’s very little chance of a not guilty verdict. i’d say there’s is a chance of a hung jury.

I agree, you never know with a jury and it is a case where you have to fill in some blanks so who can say 100%.

I would put very good odds that an average reasonable person who just showed up and listened would be much more convinced by the prosecution.

If anything other than guilty on all counts happens, we will owe Carroll a huge apology lmao

[Anonymous]

Admittedly I didn't listen to the jury instructions (are those posted online anywhere? I tried googling). But there was something about the aggravated homicide charge needing 2 people killed within 3 years or same transaction - what if the jury is convinced on Christine but not on Joe?

I guess they did not want to charge separately because of whatever sentencing attaches (?), but they kind of put the bar higher for themselves than they needed to? I understand they may have done for strategic reasons.