Will school weapon detections cause class time delay?

Anonymous
WSHS just announced that as part of their approach for this, they're going to delay opening the main doors from 7:15 to 7:30. This really seems dumb. They're going to have these new screening procedures that certainly will slow things down, and their plan is to open the doors 15 minutes LATER, so more kids will have to line up outside, and so the people who had been able to drop off at school early just have their kids caught in the rush.

A giant line of kids outside the school sounds like a really good security measure. Just A++ security theater.
Anonymous
Oh its idiotic.

My guess is the staff who got stuck with detector duty refused to be there before a 7:30 open.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Oh its idiotic.

My guess is the staff who got stuck with detector duty refused to be there before a 7:30 open.


Well, don't HS contract hours start at 8am? How can any of them be asked to do detector duty?
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Anonymous wrote:Oh its idiotic.

My guess is the staff who got stuck with detector duty refused to be there before a 7:30 open.


Very well could be, and I'm sympathetic for staff unwillingly dragged into this mess, but if schools are going to have to do this dumb thing that will cause delays in the morning they can darn well start getting ready earlier, just like the rest of us will have to.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh its idiotic.

My guess is the staff who got stuck with detector duty refused to be there before a 7:30 open.


Well, don't HS contract hours start at 8am? How can any of them be asked to do detector duty?


Our school police officer who used to do liss and ride traffic is now on the detector, teachers too. Not sure who decided who got the short straw.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Oh its idiotic.

My guess is the staff who got stuck with detector duty refused to be there before a 7:30 open.


Maybe that explains why Westfield is refusing to unlock beforw 7:40.
Anonymous
Malicious compliance might make it go away.

Hundreds of kids screening it wrongly on a daily basis so they don't get in for 3 hours
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Anonymous wrote:Malicious compliance might make it go away.

Hundreds of kids screening it wrongly on a daily basis so they don't get in for 3 hours


Seriously?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Malicious compliance might make it go away.

Hundreds of kids screening it wrongly on a daily basis so they don't get in for 3 hours


Seriously?


Won’t work at my school. My kids have watched several kids each morning get waved through after setting off the detector. It seems it makes no difference whether you set it off or not. Once you walk through, you’re done. Has anyone’s kid observed some sort of secondary screening when the machine goes off?
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Anonymous wrote:It’s week 2. Any improvement?


Nope. Easily 500+ kids outside of Westfield at 7:39 this morning waiting for the door to be unlocked.


What amazes me is there has been no communication at any point from the school or FCPS regarding the security screening, or the long lines, what their plans are to fix them, nothing! Just radio silence from Westfield admin.


I noticed this too. This is how Westfield operates on all fronts. No communication.
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Anonymous wrote:I can’t read 44 pages of comments, but you all are a bunch of whiners. These are not the first schools to implement screening. Yes, it will cause delays, especially at first. Everyone will learn the system and it will be fine. In this era of school violence, as a parent I’d be more annoyed that it took this long to put the security in place than over the inconvenience of adjusting to the new system.


There is no "security", its theater. This isn't making anyone safer. That's the issue.


Exactly. At Woodson, they pulled out all the stops to improve the optics -- including having the Frost principal work the line, shoving the waiting kids into the auditorium so people outside couldn't see the line, doing no secondary screening of items perfectly capable of concealing a weapon, and waving kids through even when the detector goes off. No one is safer for this, and kids will get marked tardy. My kid got in at 8:08, and his first class is on the other side of the school more than a 2-minute walk away. The second bell is at 8:10, and the school's email on Friday stated that kids will be marked tardy starting today. This is a win for optics and a loss for actual substantive safety.


So kids waiting to be screened to go into school were waiting in the school?

Somebody make this make sense.


it's funny in a sad way
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Anonymous wrote:It’s week 2. Any improvement?


Nope. Easily 500+ kids outside of Westfield at 7:39 this morning waiting for the door to be unlocked.


My kids are younger but I drive by the front of Westfield to work on Tues/Wed/Fri and every morning last week looked like a fire drill was happening-huge crowds of kids standing outside. last week it was raining pretty hard one of the days too. This cannot be a safety improvement! What are they going to do in the winter? Are the kids just going to miss half their first class every day? You don't really appreciate how many kids 2700-2800 are until you see almost all of them standing around outside.


This
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Anonymous wrote:They still haven't clarified how it will work in schools with trailers.


The kids go straight to their trailer classes.


I heard it's the honor system they are supposed to go through detectors and then go to trailers. Does anyone know?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Westfield has like 600 more students


+1 it's a mess when I drop my daughters off
Anonymous
Very concerned when Chantilly starts this nonsense on 9/2.
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