The Blind Side scandal

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because they have a lot of money ? Having money makes one a target. So best to hire a great lawyer than to lower one's guard.

Nope. That doesn't fly. He's not suing them for money at this point, just asking for an accounting. Again, if they have nothing to hide and took "zero" he was entitled to (their claim), why is this hard or complicated?

I agree. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Also, there's this (from the ESPN article that broke the story):

The deal lists all four Tuohy family members as having the same representative at Creative Artists Agency, the petition says. But Oher's agent, who would receive movie contract and payment notices, is listed as Debra Branan, a close family friend of the Tuohys and the same lawyer who filed the 2004 conservatorship petition, the petition alleges. Branan did not return a call to her law office on Monday.

Oher was never receiving good advice until recently.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because they have a lot of money ? Having money makes one a target. So best to hire a great lawyer than to lower one's guard.

Nope. That doesn't fly. He's not suing them for money at this point, just asking for an accounting. Again, if they have nothing to hide and took "zero" he was entitled to (their claim), why is this hard or complicated?

For the same reason innocent people don’t talk to the cops until they have a lawyer. Why is this hard?

This. The guy who kills his wife can get any lawyer. The guy that did not kill his wife needs the best.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because they have a lot of money ? Having money makes one a target. So best to hire a great lawyer than to lower one's guard.

Nope. That doesn't fly. He's not suing them for money at this point, just asking for an accounting. Again, if they have nothing to hide and took "zero" he was entitled to (their claim), why is this hard or complicated?

Who are they allowed to hire to represent them? You make no sense.

No, you've failed to explain why they felt the need to pay an enormous amount of money to an infamous Hollywood fixer when all they need to do is end the conservatorship and provide an accounting of profits they made from Oher's business interests. Why is he necessary or valuable here? Be specific.

Because they have an enormous amount of money. These people aren't fools. They hire the best of everyone. You sound like someone who doesn't have a lot of money.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because they have a lot of money ? Having money makes one a target. So best to hire a great lawyer than to lower one's guard.

Nope. That doesn't fly. He's not suing them for money at this point, just asking for an accounting. Again, if they have nothing to hide and took "zero" he was entitled to (their claim), why is this hard or complicated?

I agree. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Also, there's this (from the ESPN article that broke the story):

The deal lists all four Tuohy family members as having the same representative at Creative Artists Agency, the petition says. But Oher's agent, who would receive movie contract and payment notices, is listed as Debra Branan, a close family friend of the Tuohys and the same lawyer who filed the 2004 conservatorship petition, the petition alleges. Branan did not return a call to her law office on Monday.

Oher was never receiving good advice until recently.

I doubt that. He was a rich nfl player with his own agent and lawyers. Debra Branan is not an NFLPA lawyer or aget so she did not represent him.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because they have a lot of money ? Having money makes one a target. So best to hire a great lawyer than to lower one's guard.

Nope. That doesn't fly. He's not suing them for money at this point, just asking for an accounting. Again, if they have nothing to hide and took "zero" he was entitled to (their claim), why is this hard or complicated?

For the same reason innocent people don’t talk to the cops until they have a lawyer. Why is this hard?

This. The guy who kills his wife can get any lawyer. The guy that did not kill his wife needs the best.

That is obfuscating nonsense, doesn't remotely hold true and especially not here.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because they have a lot of money ? Having money makes one a target. So best to hire a great lawyer than to lower one's guard.

Nope. That doesn't fly. He's not suing them for money at this point, just asking for an accounting. Again, if they have nothing to hide and took "zero" he was entitled to (their claim), why is this hard or complicated?

I agree. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Also, there's this (from the ESPN article that broke the story):

The deal lists all four Tuohy family members as having the same representative at Creative Artists Agency, the petition says. But Oher's agent, who would receive movie contract and payment notices, is listed as Debra Branan, a close family friend of the Tuohys and the same lawyer who filed the 2004 conservatorship petition, the petition alleges. Branan did not return a call to her law office on Monday.

Oher was never receiving good advice until recently.

WOW.

[Anonymous]

Here's the details of Oher's conservatorship docket.

It looks like the nonprofit controlled by the Tuohy's - Make it Happen - was part of the conservatorship arrangement.

https://prdata.shelbycountytn.gov/prweb/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=C0010333&begin_date=&end_date=

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

Right. Only one thing I would change from what you said. In the first instance it is not a forensic accounting. It will be an accounting done by Sean. The Michael can look at it and test and probe. The he may ask for an outside firm to come in and do an accounting. But here I think Sean is likely to say there is no accounting because no money ever came in or out. That the conservatorship did no business. Then Michael will need to come back and say that is crap and I want to see your assets and income to see if I am owed money. I think that request will be denied by the judge unless Michael can point to particular money he did not get. If they show they gave it to him or put it in a trust for his kids then the case ends.

One other thing. I do not think the order establishing the conservatorship is out. We need to see what it said. They are all not the same. It may be broad like the Spears one or quite narrow. That will be important to find out.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because they have a lot of money ? Having money makes one a target. So best to hire a great lawyer than to lower one's guard.

Nope. That doesn't fly. He's not suing them for money at this point, just asking for an accounting. Again, if they have nothing to hide and took "zero" he was entitled to (their claim), why is this hard or complicated?

Who are they allowed to hire to represent them? You make no sense.

No, you've failed to explain why they felt the need to pay an enormous amount of money to an infamous Hollywood fixer when all they need to do is end the conservatorship and provide an accounting of profits they made from Oher's business interests. Why is he necessary or valuable here? Be specific.

They needed a lawyer to reply to the petition- an accounting is a legal document that a non-professional can’t just produce on their own. And if you’re going to hire a lawyer, why not hire a really good one if you have the money?

What kind of a person would try to provide an accounting to a court without professional legal advice?

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Anonymous wrote:Leigh Anne Tuohy built a massive amount of wealth on the back of Michael Oher - largely talking about his "adoption" She is not a nice person and you should read
some stories about the family here: https://www.reddit.com/r/memphis/comments/15r09sk/blind_side_subject_former_briarcrest_standout/

Where is your evidence. Just because she speaks about this doesn’t mean she is making money.

She makes 30-50K for each motivational speech. Guess who she talks about? She was an executive producer of a TV show. Guess why? She wrote a book - guess why it was published? There is a ton more grifting happening on the back of Michael Oher and his story.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the details of Oher's conservatorship docket.

It looks like the nonprofit controlled by the Tuohy's - Make it Happen - was part of the conservatorship arrangement.

https://prdata.shelbycountytn.gov/prweb/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=C0010333&begin_date=&end_date=

No. They are there because Michael served a subpoena on them as part of this case. Not for the original.

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Anonymous wrote:Leigh Anne Tuohy built a massive amount of wealth on the back of Michael Oher - largely talking about his "adoption" She is not a nice person and you should read
some stories about the family here: https://www.reddit.com/r/memphis/comments/15r09sk/blind_side_subject_former_briarcrest_standout/

Where is your evidence. Just because she speaks about this doesn’t mean she is making money.

She makes 30-50K for each motivational speech. Guess who she talks about? She was an executive producer of a TV show. Guess why? She wrote a book - guess why it was published? There is a ton more grifting happening on the back of Michael Oher and his story.

OK but she can do that and not owe any money. NIL does not cover stuff like this.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because they have a lot of money ? Having money makes one a target. So best to hire a great lawyer than to lower one's guard.

Nope. That doesn't fly. He's not suing them for money at this point, just asking for an accounting. Again, if they have nothing to hide and took "zero" he was entitled to (their claim), why is this hard or complicated?

For the same reason innocent people don’t talk to the cops until they have a lawyer. Why is this hard?

This. The guy who kills his wife can get any lawyer. The guy that did not kill his wife needs the best.

That is obfuscating nonsense, doesn't remotely hold true and especially not here.

It's the whole thing dude. When you are attacked you fight back. On all fronts.

[Anonymous]

Here's all the conservator documents and recent request to end...

Go here:
https://documents.shelbycountytn.gov/ProbateCourtDocuments/

Search for docket: C0010333

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because they have a lot of money ? Having money makes one a target. So best to hire a great lawyer than to lower one's guard.

Nope. That doesn't fly. He's not suing them for money at this point, just asking for an accounting. Again, if they have nothing to hide and took "zero" he was entitled to (their claim), why is this hard or complicated?

You're wrong. He's suing for compensatory and punitive damages. Punitive damages. That's suing for money to punish the Tuohys. That's why they are hiring the best.