The Blind Side scandal

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Anonymous wrote:Oher is a perfect example of what happens when you try to do the right things in life. MYOB.

The right thing being manipulating a talented homeless kid in going to your alma mater?

Seems like it worked out pretty well for him.

So we all should just shut up and ignore the fact that this was all one big lie and they led an 18 year old at risk kid astray. Wow, what great people they are.

I would agree with you but so far there is no lie. He knew about the conservatorship. He is lying now in his petition. You can’t put it your book a decade ago and now say you did not know.

Also how was he led astray? He did better at ole miss than he would have other places because they took care of him because of the family. When in college he got into a fight with a fellow player. During the fight Michael threw a desk or chair and it hit a toddler who was a kid of an assistant coach. Toddler was rushed to hospital with serious injuries. Kid was ok. Ole miss coach got Sean. Sean paid a financial settlement to the assistant coach’s family. Sean also hired a lawyer who shot down the police investigation. Ole miss did not throw him out as they would have great player or not because of the book and the family. He was not led astray.

And he played nfl football and made millions for himself. Who knows what their motives were or why they were advised to do a conservativeship over adoption but there’s no reason to assume he’s a victim here.

You don't want him to be a victim. You'll bend your mind into knots to make that couple/family not be the problem.

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Victim of what? His net worth is higher than their bio son. Does he help support SJ? They bailed him out of trouble and got him on a pretty lucrative nfl track, which they got no money from.

People lying to him and manipulating him for decades.

Just stop. This is a grown man. Not some little baby. Time to move on.

A grown man who’s $35 million richer thanks to them. Whatever their motives, he benefited too.

Where do you get off saying that his successful nfl career is due to the lying grifters? His being a talented athlete had nothing to do with them. If they hadn’t “adopted “ him he could have gone to a better college. All the grifters did was steer him to their college so they’d look like heroes for the school.

He was having trouble with his GPA to be eligible to play in the NCAA. They set him up on a course to succeed (tutoring, online school etc) while feeding, supporting, and putting a roof over his head. He had the talent, but was going to miss an opportunity without someone guiding him.

This is so common. He didn’t need them to do this. More savior bs. Schools deal with this all the time and find ways to get the gpa where it needs to be.

Ok, so why did he take the help? It was forced on him?

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Because he was a vulnerable foster child who was desperate for a stable family. All of your responses are classic gaslighting and it’s gross.

And he got that, for a time. We don't know why it all went south.

Being part of a family is not a for a time thing so he really didn’t get that.

Oh. i invite you to visit the family relationship forum here. Many family members don’t talk to each other anymore.

[Anonymous]

Just a reminder folks:

Michael MUST bring this action to the court to end the conservatorship.

The Tuohy's can't simply voluntarily end it. Only a judge can end the conservatorship based on a request by the conservatoree.

As part of the request to end the conservatorship, he's asking the Tuohy's to provide a full accounting of monies earned, actions taken, etc. Those updates should have been provided to the court annually.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder folks:

Michael MUST bring this action to the court to end the conservatorship.

The Tuohy's can't simply voluntarily end it. Only a judge can end the conservatorship based on a request by the conservatoree.

As part of the request to end the conservatorship, he's asking the Tuohy's to provide a full accounting of monies earned, actions taken, etc. Those updates should have been provided to the court annually.

+1.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder folks:

Michael MUST bring this action to the court to end the conservatorship.

The Tuohy's can't simply voluntarily end it. Only a judge can end the conservatorship based on a request by the conservatoree.

As part of the request to end the conservatorship, he's asking the Tuohy's to provide a full accounting of monies earned, actions taken, etc. Those updates should have been provided to the court annually.

Thank you for bringing the most sane post to this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a reminder folks:

Michael MUST bring this action to the court to end the conservatorship.

The Tuohy's can't simply voluntarily end it. Only a judge can end the conservatorship based on a request by the conservatoree.

As part of the request to end the conservatorship, he's asking the Tuohy's to provide a full accounting of monies earned, actions taken, etc. Those updates should have been provided to the court annually.

Thank you for posting this.

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Anonymous wrote:Without them he does not go to college. His grades were way too low to meet ncaa standards. He needed miss Sue plus college courses that they paid for. Those college courses got a higher grade because they were college. So an A was not 4.0 it was 4.5 or higher. That is how he made it. Without college there is no nfl.

1. Not every NFL player goes to college. I can think of at least 15 who did not.
2. Some NFL players start off at community college. Aaron Rodgers being the most notable example.
3. Lots of opportunities for poor kids to get free college credits. Unclear that the school didn’t have other tutoring opportunities. I went to an elite private school that had a lot of low income students through a program called Prep for Prep, there’s a lot of resources out there.

The biggest determinant for playing in the NFL is the ability to play football at a high level. I assure you I could pay for your kids to have a Miss Sue and to take a few college courses and they won’t make it to the NFL.

I think that the Touhys did help him pursue one path to getting to the nfl but it came in exchange for him going to a worse football program than he otherwise would have.

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I will take you at your word and 15 people did not go to college and in nfl. That is like 1 percent of those that try for nfl. Good luck with that. Minority kids do not complete community college 60 plus percent of the time. Good luck with that.

He didn’t complete college though so not sure what generic stats about community college completion has to do with anything. He was at Ole Miss for a year or two. You don’t need to complete college to go to the NFL. You’re also welcome to utilize Google and see for yourself that there probably more than 15 people who have gone to the nfl without college.

Good luck tutoring your kids to becoming professional athletes.

Are you referring to Michael Oher ? I believe that he earned a college degree in Criminal Justice from Ole Miss.

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Anonymous wrote:Without them he does not go to college. His grades were way too low to meet ncaa standards. He needed miss Sue plus college courses that they paid for. Those college courses got a higher grade because they were college. So an A was not 4.0 it was 4.5 or higher. That is how he made it. Without college there is no nfl.

1. Not every NFL player goes to college. I can think of at least 15 who did not.
2. Some NFL players start off at community college. Aaron Rodgers being the most notable example.
3. Lots of opportunities for poor kids to get free college credits. Unclear that the school didn’t have other tutoring opportunities. I went to an elite private school that had a lot of low income students through a program called Prep for Prep, there’s a lot of resources out there.

The biggest determinant for playing in the NFL is the ability to play football at a high level. I assure you I could pay for your kids to have a Miss Sue and to take a few college courses and they won’t make it to the NFL.

I think that the Touhys did help him pursue one path to getting to the nfl but it came in exchange for him going to a worse football program than he otherwise would have.

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I will take you at your word and 15 people did not go to college and in nfl. That is like 1 percent of those that try for nfl. Good luck with that. Minority kids do not complete community college 60 plus percent of the time. Good luck with that.

He didn’t complete college though so not sure what generic stats about community college completion has to do with anything. He was at Ole Miss for a year or two. You don’t need to complete college to go to the NFL. You’re also welcome to utilize Google and see for yourself that there probably more than 15 people who have gone to the nfl without college.

Good luck tutoring your kids to becoming professional athletes.

Are you referring to Michael Oher ? I believe that he earned a college degree in Criminal Justice from Ole Miss.

Yes he graduated from Ole Miss in spring 2009. That should have been mentioned at the end of the movie because it came out in Nov 2009.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because they have a lot of money ? Having money makes one a target. So best to hire a great lawyer than to lower one's guard.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because they have a lot of money ? Having money makes one a target. So best to hire a great lawyer than to lower one's guard.

Nope. That doesn't fly. He's not suing them for money at this point, just asking for an accounting. Again, if they have nothing to hide and took "zero" he was entitled to (their claim), why is this hard or complicated?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Without them he does not go to college. His grades were way too low to meet ncaa standards. He needed miss Sue plus college courses that they paid for. Those college courses got a higher grade because they were college. So an A was not 4.0 it was 4.5 or higher. That is how he made it. Without college there is no nfl.

1. Not every NFL player goes to college. I can think of at least 15 who did not.
2. Some NFL players start off at community college. Aaron Rodgers being the most notable example.
3. Lots of opportunities for poor kids to get free college credits. Unclear that the school didn’t have other tutoring opportunities. I went to an elite private school that had a lot of low income students through a program called Prep for Prep, there’s a lot of resources out there.

The biggest determinant for playing in the NFL is the ability to play football at a high level. I assure you I could pay for your kids to have a Miss Sue and to take a few college courses and they won’t make it to the NFL.

I think that the Touhys did help him pursue one path to getting to the nfl but it came in exchange for him going to a worse football program than he otherwise would have.

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Yes. Oher went all four years and played all four years and got a degree.

I will take you at your word and 15 people did not go to college and in nfl. That is like 1 percent of those that try for nfl. Good luck with that. Minority kids do not complete community college 60 plus percent of the time. Good luck with that.

He didn’t complete college though so not sure what generic stats about community college completion has to do with anything. He was at Ole Miss for a year or two. You don’t need to complete college to go to the NFL. You’re also welcome to utilize Google and see for yourself that there probably more than 15 people who have gone to the nfl without college.

Good luck tutoring your kids to becoming professional athletes.

Are you referring to Michael Oher ? I believe that he earned a college degree in Criminal Justice from Ole Miss.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because they have a lot of money ? Having money makes one a target. So best to hire a great lawyer than to lower one's guard.

Nope. That doesn't fly. He's not suing them for money at this point, just asking for an accounting. Again, if they have nothing to hide and took "zero" he was entitled to (their claim), why is this hard or complicated?

Who are they allowed to hire to represent them? You make no sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because they have a lot of money ? Having money makes one a target. So best to hire a great lawyer than to lower one's guard.

Nope. That doesn't fly. He's not suing them for money at this point, just asking for an accounting. Again, if they have nothing to hide and took "zero" he was entitled to (their claim), why is this hard or complicated?

For the same reason innocent people don’t talk to the cops until they have a lawyer. Why is this hard?

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because they have a lot of money ? Having money makes one a target. So best to hire a great lawyer than to lower one's guard.

Nope. That doesn't fly. He's not suing them for money at this point, just asking for an accounting. Again, if they have nothing to hide and took "zero" he was entitled to (their claim), why is this hard or complicated?

Who are they allowed to hire to represent them? You make no sense.

No, you've failed to explain why they felt the need to pay an enormous amount of money to an infamous Hollywood fixer when all they need to do is end the conservatorship and provide an accounting of profits they made from Oher's business interests. Why is he necessary or valuable here? Be specific.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’re voluntarily terminating the conservatorship. Let’s see where this is in five year. The Tuohy’s will remain successful, Oher will be broke.

How voluntary is something when you have to be sued to do it?

I thought he was suing them for $, not to have the conservatorship removed? It sounds like they haven’t really ever done anything with the conservatorship since he went to college. But I’m sure it will all come out now.

They didn’t really make much money on the actual movie (Hollywood Studio greed), but maybe he is entitled to a percentage of their earnings for things like motivational speaking gigs they got after the movie came out? It’s a big grey area.

He wants the conservatorship removed and a full forensic accounting of said conservatorship. He is clearly entitled to that and if they had nothing to hide, this would be cut and dried. Singer's involvement makes me think it is not, though his involvement might be due to the damage this does to their brand. The monetary figures express the suspicion that they swindled him out of his fair share of assets generated by his story and likeness, not part of the petition per se.

This. So why did the Tuohys rush to hire Singer if this is a matter of a technicality (ending the conservatorship) and super-straightforward accounting (showing they did not exploit him financially)?

Because when people come for you, you get a great lawyer. Should they have hired a bad lawyer? This is a war. Bet the company is the phrase that is used in corporate law. You get the best if you can afford it. Goldman Sachs does not hire the 51st best lawyer when they have a potential issues -- they hire the best.