Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

I'm one of the people defending her on here and one reason I have done so is because I want to create some kind of record of people being rational about what actually happens in the video (not what people think happened based on some incendiary caption of the video in a tweet or in a local news story, but what actually happens) in the hopes that this will in some way help her, because I think she is innocent and I think it would be really awful for her to lose her job midway through her pregnancy because some kids bullied her off a bike share and then an internet mob got involved and ruined her reputation.

Like that would just be a really dumb outcome for this situation and I hope it doesn't happen.

She’ll move to a red state where they will be happy to have her. So NYV will lose a well-trained medical professional who has dedicated her career to working in one of the highest need safety net hospitals in the country (Bellevue). Contrast that to Roxane Gay who has literally done nothing real to help anyone, ever. This woman has likely done more to help poor BIPOC in one day than the salivating keyboard warriors calling her a racist Karen have done in their entire lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

I'm one of the people defending her on here and one reason I have done so is because I want to create some kind of record of people being rational about what actually happens in the video (not what people think happened based on some incendiary caption of the video in a tweet or in a local news story, but what actually happens) in the hopes that this will in some way help her, because I think she is innocent and I think it would be really awful for her to lose her job midway through her pregnancy because some kids bullied her off a bike share and then an internet mob got involved and ruined her reputation.

Like that would just be a really dumb outcome for this situation and I hope it doesn't happen.

I am sure that her employee is reading DCUM to get your opinion.

You might be surprised. DCUM is full of lawyers, including ones with connections to NYC labor lawyers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

I'm one of the people defending her on here and one reason I have done so is because I want to create some kind of record of people being rational about what actually happens in the video (not what people think happened based on some incendiary caption of the video in a tweet or in a local news story, but what actually happens) in the hopes that this will in some way help her, because I think she is innocent and I think it would be really awful for her to lose her job midway through her pregnancy because some kids bullied her off a bike share and then an internet mob got involved and ruined her reputation.

Like that would just be a really dumb outcome for this situation and I hope it doesn't happen.

She’ll move to a red state where they will be happy to have her. So NYV will lose a well-trained medical professional who has dedicated her career to working in one of the highest need safety net hospitals in the country (Bellevue). Contrast that to Roxane Gay who has literally done nothing real to help anyone, ever. This woman has likely done more to help poor BIPOC in one day than the salivating keyboard warriors calling her a racist Karen have done in their entire lives.

This right here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

I'm one of the people defending her on here and one reason I have done so is because I want to create some kind of record of people being rational about what actually happens in the video (not what people think happened based on some incendiary caption of the video in a tweet or in a local news story, but what actually happens) in the hopes that this will in some way help her, because I think she is innocent and I think it would be really awful for her to lose her job midway through her pregnancy because some kids bullied her off a bike share and then an internet mob got involved and ruined her reputation.

Like that would just be a really dumb outcome for this situation and I hope it doesn't happen.

I am sure that her employee is reading DCUM to get your opinion.

The woman herself, or a member of her family, might be googling her to see what is being said about her (or her attorney or union rep) and might come across this thread and see several of the explanations for what is happening in the video that could exonerate this woman. It actually could be useful. If she is googling herself (I hope for her sake she is not) I think reading some of the defenses of her in this thread could be heartening -- I can't imagine dealing with this, much less while pregnant, and feeling like the entire world reviles me because they misunderstand what is happening in a 90 second video of me taken at the end of my work day while I'm just trying to go home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

I'm one of the people defending her on here and one reason I have done so is because I want to create some kind of record of people being rational about what actually happens in the video (not what people think happened based on some incendiary caption of the video in a tweet or in a local news story, but what actually happens) in the hopes that this will in some way help her, because I think she is innocent and I think it would be really awful for her to lose her job midway through her pregnancy because some kids bullied her off a bike share and then an internet mob got involved and ruined her reputation.

Like that would just be a really dumb outcome for this situation and I hope it doesn't happen.

I am sure that her employee is reading DCUM to get your opinion.

The woman herself, or a member of her family, might be googling her to see what is being said about her (or her attorney or union rep) and might come across this thread and see several of the explanations for what is happening in the video that could exonerate this woman. It actually could be useful. If she is googling herself (I hope for her sake she is not) I think reading some of the defenses of her in this thread could be heartening -- I can't imagine dealing with this, much less while pregnant, and feeling like the entire world reviles me because they misunderstand what is happening in a 90 second video of me taken at the end of my work day while I'm just trying to go home.

I support her too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

I'm one of the people defending her on here and one reason I have done so is because I want to create some kind of record of people being rational about what actually happens in the video (not what people think happened based on some incendiary caption of the video in a tweet or in a local news story, but what actually happens) in the hopes that this will in some way help her, because I think she is innocent and I think it would be really awful for her to lose her job midway through her pregnancy because some kids bullied her off a bike share and then an internet mob got involved and ruined her reputation.

Like that would just be a really dumb outcome for this situation and I hope it doesn't happen.

She’ll move to a red state where they will be happy to have her. So NYV will lose a well-trained medical professional who has dedicated her career to working in one of the highest need safety net hospitals in the country (Bellevue). Contrast that to Roxane Gay who has literally done nothing real to help anyone, ever. This woman has likely done more to help poor BIPOC in one day than the salivating keyboard warriors calling her a racist Karen have done in their entire lives.

I don’t necessarily agree with the first sentence but otherwise I do agree, Bellevue is a high-needs provider and at least some of the professionals on staff are really making some significant sacrifices and are helping underserved BIPOC for sure. There’s an internal medicine specialist there that is renowned and helped spearhead some city initiatives to improve diet and lifestyle that I’ve long admired. Who knows what her actual job performance is? The presumption that it must be bad and racist is so absurd. On topic, I do think this woman was wiped out and just mad as hell at the end of her shift and it was a stroke of catastrophically bad luck that she encountered this small group who were at the ready to record her and get their way.

I don’t think any of the people here villainizing her would have done much better in these circs. Who knows.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If he rents the bike when it beeps, why would he need to continue covering the QR code?

He doesn’t, which is why after he unlocks the bike, his hand moves out to the handle bars— you can see that’s where it is when the hospital worker comes up to talk to them.

No, his hand was on the part with the QR code for a period of time after the chime.

A few seconds, maybe 10? And it down lower, on the base of the bars, not over the screen.

My question: why would be need to cover the QR code after he rented it?

My question : why does she sit on a bike someone else is renting?

Because it hasn’t been rented yet. The video doesn’t show the full story. One possible explanation is that she sat down to rent it at the same time he was standing next to it.

This is what it looks like. 2 people trying to rent the bike at the same time, chaos ensues. I don’t see how, from the video, she was stealing it but it could be possible given where the video starts. Both parties appear to be antagonizing each other but she is clearly over the top in her response to the point that she comes off terribly. Particularly given the racial dynamics and because her response comes off as contrived and fake.

You are making a value judgment there that I don't think is fair, though. He's calmer because he's bigger than she is, and stronger, and has several friends around him. She is "over the top" because she has to physically fight harder to stay on the bike (he's literally just leaning into her the whole time and she is having to muscle her way to stay on the bike), his friends are laughing at her and criticizing her, one of them is filming her. She's emotional because the situation is overwhelming for her. He is not emotional because it's not overwhelming for him -- he is in control.

To say she "comes off" as contrived and fake... people think that because they are primed to think it. The guy taking the video points a finger at her and says "fake crying" so the viewer thinks "fake crying." I've watched the video several times and I don't think anything about her reaction is contrived. At all. I think she is genuinely frustrated and angry, she appears to be very tired. All of this is conveyed in her tone of voice and the things she says. I don't look at it and think "she seems really fun! I want to be her friend!" I'm guessing this is not the best moment of her life and she is not bringing the best version of herself. But it's not contrived. That's really how she feels in that moment. Just like the guy feels in control and cheerful, and that comes across. But why does she feel frustrated and overwhelmed while he feels in control and cheerful? Because he is successfully overpowering her, that's why.

There is nothing fake in that video.

Pp here. I actually do agree that her response could very well have been a genuine one. I should have worded my initial statement differently. Regardless of her actual experience, it was easy to portray her a certain way given her reaction. Honestly, it does come off as disingenuous to me but you are right, I do think the vitriolic discussion around the incident is contributing to some bias. I’ll have to give the vid another watch

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, we have seen from Emmett Till in the 60s (his white female accuser admitted to lying) to the recent Central Park birdwatcher (the video proved his white female accuser was lying) how a cry for help can often be used intentionally to minimize accountability, deflect blame, or worse, inflict harm in scenarios where they know their whiteness grants them benefits.

Even if she was right and had the bike first, her cry for help and tears followed by the quick recovery is what concerns people because of the history.

+1 This. Not sure why is so hard for people to understand this.

[Anonymous]

Just give her the bike!! Who knows what she was going through! Geez!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, we have seen from Emmett Till in the 60s (his white female accuser admitted to lying) to the recent Central Park birdwatcher (the video proved his white female accuser was lying) how a cry for help can often be used intentionally to minimize accountability, deflect blame, or worse, inflict harm in scenarios where they know their whiteness grants them benefits.

Even if she was right and had the bike first, her cry for help and tears followed by the quick recovery is what concerns people because of the history.

+1 This. Not sure why is so hard for people to understand this.

I understand all of this perfectly. But she’s being accused of stealing AND accused of not being able to treat black patients fairly in her professional capacity.

My understanding of (and even agreement with) this point is completely overwhelmed by the insanity of the Twitter mob.

[Anonymous]

Oh, if only black people had 1% of the grace and benefit of the doubt granted to white women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, if only black people had 1% of the grace and benefit of the doubt granted to white women.

What on earth are you talking about? 99% of the internet sided with the boys, despite the fact they are clearly lying.

[Anonymous]

Or it was all staged, which is all too common.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, if only black people had 1% of the grace and benefit of the doubt granted to white women.

What on earth are you talking about? 99% of the internet sided with the boys, despite the fact they are clearly lying.

+ 1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

I'm one of the people defending her on here and one reason I have done so is because I want to create some kind of record of people being rational about what actually happens in the video (not what people think happened based on some incendiary caption of the video in a tweet or in a local news story, but what actually happens) in the hopes that this will in some way help her, because I think she is innocent and I think it would be really awful for her to lose her job midway through her pregnancy because some kids bullied her off a bike share and then an internet mob got involved and ruined her reputation.

Like that would just be a really dumb outcome for this situation and I hope it doesn't happen.

She’ll move to a red state where they will be happy to have her. So NYV will lose a well-trained medical professional who has dedicated her career to working in one of the highest need safety net hospitals in the country (Bellevue). Contrast that to Roxane Gay who has literally done nothing real to help anyone, ever. This woman has likely done more to help poor BIPOC in one day than the salivating keyboard warriors calling her a racist Karen have done in their entire lives.

I don’t necessarily agree with the first sentence but otherwise I do agree, Bellevue is a high-needs provider and at least some of the professionals on staff are really making some significant sacrifices and are helping underserved BIPOC for sure. There’s an internal medicine specialist there that is renowned and helped spearhead some city initiatives to improve diet and lifestyle that I’ve long admired. Who knows what her actual job performance is? The presumption that it must be bad and racist is so absurd. On topic, I do think this woman was wiped out and just mad as hell at the end of her shift and it was a stroke of catastrophically bad luck that she encountered this small group who were at the ready to record her and get their way.

I don’t think any of the people here villainizing her would have done much better in these circs. Who knows.

+1

It is actually pretty easy for me to imagine that this scenario would play out in almost the exact same way even if all the people in the video were black (including the woman and the bystander) or they were all white. People are imposing racial dynamics on it that sound plausible if you just describe the scenario, but don't really seem to be present in the video itself. And I say that after having been primed to view the video as evidence of racial bias. It's just not there.