Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Anonymous wrote:If he rents the bike when it beeps, why would he need to continue covering the QR code?

He doesn’t, which is why after he unlocks the bike, his hand moves out to the handle bars— you can see that’s where it is when the hospital worker comes up to talk to them.

No, his hand was on the part with the QR code for a period of time after the chime.

A few seconds, maybe 10? And it down lower, on the base of the bars, not over the screen.

My question: why would be need to cover the QR code after he rented it?

My question : why does she sit on a bike someone else is renting?

Because it hasn’t been rented yet. The video doesn’t show the full story. One possible explanation is that she sat down to rent it at the same time he was standing next to it.

People are saying the beep at the :20 mark was him renting the bike. He continues to cover the QR code. Why would he need to do that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Black America has a lot to be angry for. If they want to take down this woman, so be it. I don’t really care if she did it or not.

Interesting that when it's time to find justice for white supremacy, it's a pregnant, female physicians assistant trying to go home who is being "taken down" and not, I don't know, any of the actually powerful white men who have benefitted enormously from white supremacy.

I mean, what if someone applied this same logic to another context. What if someone said, "hey, women have been raped and abused for centuries and have a lot to be angry for -- if they want to take down this man, so be it. I don't really care if he did anything wrong or not." Would you be cool with that?

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Anonymous wrote:Black America has a lot to be angry for. If they want to take down this woman, so be it. I don’t really care if she did it or not.

Sadly, I’m pretty sure you’re serious.

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Anonymous wrote:If he rents the bike when it beeps, why would he need to continue covering the QR code?

He doesn’t, which is why after he unlocks the bike, his hand moves out to the handle bars— you can see that’s where it is when the hospital worker comes up to talk to them.

No, his hand was on the part with the QR code for a period of time after the chime.

A few seconds, maybe 10? And it down lower, on the base of the bars, not over the screen.

My question: why would be need to cover the QR code after he rented it?

My question : why does she sit on a bike someone else is renting?

Because it hasn’t been rented yet. The video doesn’t show the full story. One possible explanation is that she sat down to rent it at the same time he was standing next to it.

People are saying the beep at the :20 mark was him renting the bike. He continues to cover the QR code. Why would he need to do that?

Why does she never say it’s her bike?

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Anonymous wrote:If he rents the bike when it beeps, why would he need to continue covering the QR code?

He doesn’t, which is why after he unlocks the bike, his hand moves out to the handle bars— you can see that’s where it is when the hospital worker comes up to talk to them.

No, his hand was on the part with the QR code for a period of time after the chime.

A few seconds, maybe 10? And it down lower, on the base of the bars, not over the screen.

My question: why would be need to cover the QR code after he rented it?

My question : why does she sit on a bike someone else is renting?

Because it hasn’t been rented yet. The video doesn’t show the full story. One possible explanation is that she sat down to rent it at the same time he was standing next to it.

People are saying the beep at the :20 mark was him renting the bike. He continues to cover the QR code. Why would he need to do that?

If you look closely, you can see his hand has moved lower -- I don't think it's covering the QR code anymore. And then he moves it to the handle bar.

Or maybe he is worried she will try to somehow cancel his rental with her phone, I don't know. But I do think he's covering the QR reader at the beginning because it's an awkward place to rent his hand. Also, at the point when you hear the chunk and chime at :20 seconds, the bike appears to move back, like it was just unlocked.

I don't think the fact that his hand briefly remains on or near the QR reader is vindicating.

If I'm wrong, the time stamps on the video and the time stamp on the guy's Citibike receipt would prove it, but I bet you we never hear from this guy again.

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Anonymous wrote:If he rents the bike when it beeps, why would he need to continue covering the QR code?

He doesn’t, which is why after he unlocks the bike, his hand moves out to the handle bars— you can see that’s where it is when the hospital worker comes up to talk to them.

No, his hand was on the part with the QR code for a period of time after the chime.

A few seconds, maybe 10? And it down lower, on the base of the bars, not over the screen.

My question: why would be need to cover the QR code after he rented it?

My question : why does she sit on a bike someone else is renting?

Because it hasn’t been rented yet. The video doesn’t show the full story. One possible explanation is that she sat down to rent it at the same time he was standing next to it.

People are saying the beep at the :20 mark was him renting the bike. He continues to cover the QR code. Why would he need to do that?

Why does she never say it’s her bike?

The bike belongs to Citibike. It doesn't belong to either of them.

He DOES rent it before she can. So at no point does she pay for the bike. She doesn't say "it's my bike" because that would be a lie, and I don't think she lies at any point in the video.

But he appears to rent it after she's gotten on it, and it's clear that she believes she got to the bike first. And since she's straddling the bike and he's just got a hand on it, this seems plausible to me.

It is possible he was standing next to the bike with the intention of renting it when she got on. But if that's the case, she still didn't "steal" the bike from him (he had not rented it yet, he rents it during the video). And in any case, that doesn't make her a white supremacist -- he responds by pushing up against her and trying to force her off the bike, and trying to keep her from renting it. When she calls out "help" it is clear that she genuinely believe she needs assistance because he's trying to force her off the bike.

People are inventing a lot of motivations for the people in the video and assuming a lot of stuff about what happens before the video starts. But if you just go by what we actually know from watching the video, this is just an altercation between two people who both think the bike is theirs, where they both behave somewhat childishly and rude. If you watch, the guy in the pink/purple sweatshirt to the right doesn't even agree with his friend that the bike is his -- he repeatedly kind of rolls his eyes and is like "just let it go" to his friend.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe how many people have her back on this thread!

+1 I wonder where all these people come from.

virginia?

or maybe Frederick.

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Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

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Anonymous wrote:If he rents the bike when it beeps, why would he need to continue covering the QR code?

He doesn’t, which is why after he unlocks the bike, his hand moves out to the handle bars— you can see that’s where it is when the hospital worker comes up to talk to them.

No, his hand was on the part with the QR code for a period of time after the chime.

A few seconds, maybe 10? And it down lower, on the base of the bars, not over the screen.

My question: why would be need to cover the QR code after he rented it?

My question : why does she sit on a bike someone else is renting?

my question: why did he scan a bike that a person is already sitting on?

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Anonymous wrote:If he rents the bike when it beeps, why would he need to continue covering the QR code?

He doesn’t, which is why after he unlocks the bike, his hand moves out to the handle bars— you can see that’s where it is when the hospital worker comes up to talk to them.

No, his hand was on the part with the QR code for a period of time after the chime.

A few seconds, maybe 10? And it down lower, on the base of the bars, not over the screen.

My question: why would be need to cover the QR code after he rented it?

My question : why does she sit on a bike someone else is renting?

Because it hasn’t been rented yet. The video doesn’t show the full story. One possible explanation is that she sat down to rent it at the same time he was standing next to it.

This is what it looks like. 2 people trying to rent the bike at the same time, chaos ensues. I don’t see how, from the video, she was stealing it but it could be possible given where the video starts. Both parties appear to be antagonizing each other but she is clearly over the top in her response to the point that she comes off terribly. Particularly given the racial dynamics and because her response comes off as contrived and fake.

You are making a value judgment there that I don't think is fair, though. He's calmer because he's bigger than she is, and stronger, and has several friends around him. She is "over the top" because she has to physically fight harder to stay on the bike (he's literally just leaning into her the whole time and she is having to muscle her way to stay on the bike), his friends are laughing at her and criticizing her, one of them is filming her. She's emotional because the situation is overwhelming for her. He is not emotional because it's not overwhelming for him -- he is in control.

To say she "comes off" as contrived and fake... people think that because they are primed to think it. The guy taking the video points a finger at her and says "fake crying" so the viewer thinks "fake crying." I've watched the video several times and I don't think anything about her reaction is contrived. At all. I think she is genuinely frustrated and angry, she appears to be very tired. All of this is conveyed in her tone of voice and the things she says. I don't look at it and think "she seems really fun! I want to be her friend!" I'm guessing this is not the best moment of her life and she is not bringing the best version of herself. But it's not contrived. That's really how she feels in that moment. Just like the guy feels in control and cheerful, and that comes across. But why does she feel frustrated and overwhelmed while he feels in control and cheerful? Because he is successfully overpowering her, that's why.

There is nothing fake in that video.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe how many people have her back on this thread!

+1 I wonder where all these people come from.

virginia?

or maybe Frederick.

I live in downtown DC and one reason I was confused about the narrative around this video after the first time I viewed it is that I'm fairly familiar with the dynamics at play in this video.

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Anonymous wrote:If he rents the bike when it beeps, why would he need to continue covering the QR code?

He doesn’t, which is why after he unlocks the bike, his hand moves out to the handle bars— you can see that’s where it is when the hospital worker comes up to talk to them.

No, his hand was on the part with the QR code for a period of time after the chime.

A few seconds, maybe 10? And it down lower, on the base of the bars, not over the screen.

My question: why would be need to cover the QR code after he rented it?

My question : why does she sit on a bike someone else is renting?

Because it hasn’t been rented yet. The video doesn’t show the full story. One possible explanation is that she sat down to rent it at the same time he was standing next to it.

This is what it looks like. 2 people trying to rent the bike at the same time, chaos ensues. I don’t see how, from the video, she was stealing it but it could be possible given where the video starts. Both parties appear to be antagonizing each other but she is clearly over the top in her response to the point that she comes off terribly. Particularly given the racial dynamics and because her response comes off as contrived and fake.

You are making a value judgment there that I don't think is fair, though. He's calmer because he's bigger than she is, and stronger, and has several friends around him. She is "over the top" because she has to physically fight harder to stay on the bike (he's literally just leaning into her the whole time and she is having to muscle her way to stay on the bike), his friends are laughing at her and criticizing her, one of them is filming her. She's emotional because the situation is overwhelming for her. He is not emotional because it's not overwhelming for him -- he is in control.

To say she "comes off" as contrived and fake... people think that because they are primed to think it. The guy taking the video points a finger at her and says "fake crying" so the viewer thinks "fake crying." I've watched the video several times and I don't think anything about her reaction is contrived. At all. I think she is genuinely frustrated and angry, she appears to be very tired. All of this is conveyed in her tone of voice and the things she says. I don't look at it and think "she seems really fun! I want to be her friend!" I'm guessing this is not the best moment of her life and she is not bringing the best version of herself. But it's not contrived. That's really how she feels in that moment. Just like the guy feels in control and cheerful, and that comes across. But why does she feel frustrated and overwhelmed while he feels in control and cheerful? Because he is successfully overpowering her, that's why.

There is nothing fake in that video.

This is really well said. It’s pretty sad that it’s going to fall on deaf ears. I hope her employer is careful with the review and doesn’t succumb to a public witch hunt.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

I'm one of the people defending her on here and one reason I have done so is because I want to create some kind of record of people being rational about what actually happens in the video (not what people think happened based on some incendiary caption of the video in a tweet or in a local news story, but what actually happens) in the hopes that this will in some way help her, because I think she is innocent and I think it would be really awful for her to lose her job midway through her pregnancy because some kids bullied her off a bike share and then an internet mob got involved and ruined her reputation.

Like that would just be a really dumb outcome for this situation and I hope it doesn't happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

I'm one of the people defending her on here and one reason I have done so is because I want to create some kind of record of people being rational about what actually happens in the video (not what people think happened based on some incendiary caption of the video in a tweet or in a local news story, but what actually happens) in the hopes that this will in some way help her, because I think she is innocent and I think it would be really awful for her to lose her job midway through her pregnancy because some kids bullied her off a bike share and then an internet mob got involved and ruined her reputation.

Like that would just be a really dumb outcome for this situation and I hope it doesn't happen.

I feel just as you do. The way this has been whipped up and presented is something else.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like her employer put her on leave. I'm sure they are doing their own deep analysis of the situation/video. Luckily, they, not DCUM, get to decide her fate!

I'm one of the people defending her on here and one reason I have done so is because I want to create some kind of record of people being rational about what actually happens in the video (not what people think happened based on some incendiary caption of the video in a tweet or in a local news story, but what actually happens) in the hopes that this will in some way help her, because I think she is innocent and I think it would be really awful for her to lose her job midway through her pregnancy because some kids bullied her off a bike share and then an internet mob got involved and ruined her reputation.

Like that would just be a really dumb outcome for this situation and I hope it doesn't happen.

I am sure that her employee is reading DCUM to get your opinion.