Boycott/ Divest and Pull your College App from All States which violate Our Daughters' Civil Rights

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Anonymous wrote:Apart from divesting our portfolio, purchasing, et cetera, we also have our lengthy travel bucket list, where we visit various cities, museums, shopping districts, landmarks, attractions like National Parks, regional food scene, et cetera around the country every year - Just updated, and reprioritized that list last night to sort it by state and color code it by how unfriendly each state is to women. We're taking our tourism dollars elsewhere - there are lots of fantastic choices outside of your repressive Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas etc.

Do you realize most people are not obsessed with politics in their every waking moment and do not plan investments and trips based on politics? You sound insufferable.

You sound clueless. You are not going to force people to give birth without a mother of a fight. Insufferable would be a mild description of the gravity if forcing births on people

And what will you do or say if red states begin offering much more comprehensive free birth control options, better prenatal care, better sex education that encourages girls to report cases of rape and incest so those instances reduce, birth rates and mother and infant mortality rates reduce, adoptions are easier and less expensive? What will you say when the red states have better overall healthcare for women rather than having a single issue with abortion as a form of birth control? Abortions are not risk free. Wouldn't preventing the pregnancy in the first place be better?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Apart from divesting our portfolio, purchasing, et cetera, we also have our lengthy travel bucket list, where we visit various cities, museums, shopping districts, landmarks, attractions like National Parks, regional food scene, et cetera around the country every year - Just updated, and reprioritized that list last night to sort it by state and color code it by how unfriendly each state is to women. We're taking our tourism dollars elsewhere - there are lots of fantastic choices outside of your repressive Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas etc.

Do you realize most people are not obsessed with politics in their every waking moment and do not plan investments and trips based on politics? You sound insufferable.

You sound clueless. You are not going to force people to give birth without a mother of a fight. Insufferable would be a mild description of the gravity if forcing births on people

And what will you do or say if red states begin offering much more comprehensive free birth control options, better prenatal care, better sex education that encourages girls to report cases of rape and incest so those instances reduce, birth rates and mother and infant mortality rates reduce, adoptions are easier and less expensive? What will you say when the red states have better overall healthcare for women rather than having a single issue with abortion as a form of birth control? Abortions are not risk free. Wouldn't preventing the pregnancy in the first place be better?

I would say that sounds like a blue state.

[Anonymous]

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And what will you do or say if red states begin offering much more comprehensive free birth control options, better prenatal care, better sex education that encourages girls to report cases of rape and incest so those instances reduce, birth rates and mother and infant mortality rates reduce, adoptions are easier and less expensive? What will you say when the red states have better overall healthcare for women rather than having a single issue with abortion as a form of birth control? Abortions are not risk free. Wouldn't preventing the pregnancy in the first place be better?


I would say that sounds like a blue state.

No kidding. No red state would support those policies because the alleged "pro-life" movement is (and has always been) about punishing and controlling women for having sex, NOT about actually caring about children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interestingly, applications at southern schools are up—way up. I think a lot of kids were put off by the super woke cancel culture.

Rather than cut off all ties with the south, let’s try to figure out how we got here so we can then determine how to get things back on track.

Did your list include Virginia? The guy you elected already said he wants to take action, op. Or, are you only targeting “those Deep South” states dcum likes to criticize as backwards? I think your faux purple VA is just like the others on your list. So, shall we write off VA and aaaaaaalllllll those VA based corporations? Are you ready to bail on Amazon?

Not op, but I sure am.
Also, applications hardly reflect yesterday’s decision. And kids can continue to attend schools in these states - it’ll just be a lot more dangerous for the women. But, I support choice even if I disagree with the choice someone makes.

Literally 5% of the population lists abortion as their biggest issue that they’re voting on in the mid terms. This thread, and the posters on here, are way more focused on this issue than the majority of the population. This is becoming a boutique issue for upper middle class white women.

Voters are dumb AF. Wait until these draconian laws affect them personally.

The economy affects everyone. Abortion, not so much. Dems would have a better case if they weren’t aligning themselves with people who advocate for abortions up until birth for whatever reason given. In the age of high resolution ultrasounds that kind of stuff is not supported by more than 70 percent of the population and is banned in most countries and states because people think it is barbaric outside of exceptions for the the mother’s health. Dems need to stop aligning themselves with the far left fringe on social issues like this. It is not a winning model. Take Hillary’s advice and stick to “safe, legal, and rare” and don’t give any traction to the people who want to celebrate their abortions.

Red herring. 3rd trimester abortions are very rare and for very sad reasons.

Banning abortion will ultimately impact economy as well. You’ll drive more families into poverty. Decrease education rate. Increase crime rates. Etc.

We all lose.

Not a red herring. It is legal in states like New York to have an abortion up until birth for any reason. That is barbaric and most people in the country and around the world think so. It doesn’t matter that they’re very rare and done in very sad circumstances, it’s the fact that the law codifies that someone can abort a viable baby at 30 weeks if they felt like it for no reason that’s the issue.

If liberals would just stick to fighting for abortion in the first trimester and then abortion after that in special circumstances that are approved by a physician then you would have a lot more people on your side. When you start celebrating your abortions on IG and advocating for people’s rights to abort viable babies on a whim you lose a lot of people. Just stick to France’s abortions laws and stop advocating for barbarity to stick it to Trumpsters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apart from divesting our portfolio, purchasing, et cetera, we also have our lengthy travel bucket list, where we visit various cities, museums, shopping districts, landmarks, attractions like National Parks, regional food scene, et cetera around the country every year - Just updated, and reprioritized that list last night to sort it by state and color code it by how unfriendly each state is to women. We're taking our tourism dollars elsewhere - there are lots of fantastic choices outside of your repressive Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas etc.

Do you realize most people are not obsessed with politics in their every waking moment and do not plan investments and trips based on politics? You sound insufferable.

You sound clueless. You are not going to force people to give birth without a mother of a fight. Insufferable would be a mild description of the gravity if forcing births on people

And what will you do or say if red states begin offering much more comprehensive free birth control options, better prenatal care, better sex education that encourages girls to report cases of rape and incest so those instances reduce, birth rates and mother and infant mortality rates reduce, adoptions are easier and less expensive? What will you say when the red states have better overall healthcare for women rather than having a single issue with abortion as a form of birth control? Abortions are not risk free. Wouldn't preventing the pregnancy in the first place be better?

That would be amazing and I would applaud it but you need to slip on your jammies honey cuz you are dreaming

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interestingly, applications at southern schools are up—way up. I think a lot of kids were put off by the super woke cancel culture.

Rather than cut off all ties with the south, let’s try to figure out how we got here so we can then determine how to get things back on track.

Did your list include Virginia? The guy you elected already said he wants to take action, op. Or, are you only targeting “those Deep South” states dcum likes to criticize as backwards? I think your faux purple VA is just like the others on your list. So, shall we write off VA and aaaaaaalllllll those VA based corporations? Are you ready to bail on Amazon?

Not op, but I sure am.
Also, applications hardly reflect yesterday’s decision. And kids can continue to attend schools in these states - it’ll just be a lot more dangerous for the women. But, I support choice even if I disagree with the choice someone makes.

Literally 5% of the population lists abortion as their biggest issue that they’re voting on in the mid terms. This thread, and the posters on here, are way more focused on this issue than the majority of the population. This is becoming a boutique issue for upper middle class white women.

Voters are dumb AF. Wait until these draconian laws affect them personally.

The economy affects everyone. Abortion, not so much. Dems would have a better case if they weren’t aligning themselves with people who advocate for abortions up until birth for whatever reason given. In the age of high resolution ultrasounds that kind of stuff is not supported by more than 70 percent of the population and is banned in most countries and states because people think it is barbaric outside of exceptions for the the mother’s health. Dems need to stop aligning themselves with the far left fringe on social issues like this. It is not a winning model. Take Hillary’s advice and stick to “safe, legal, and rare” and don’t give any traction to the people who want to celebrate their abortions.

Red herring. 3rd trimester abortions are very rare and for very sad reasons.

Banning abortion will ultimately impact economy as well. You’ll drive more families into poverty. Decrease education rate. Increase crime rates. Etc.

We all lose.

Not a red herring. It is legal in states like New York to have an abortion up until birth for any reason. That is barbaric and most people in the country and around the world think so. It doesn’t matter that they’re very rare and done in very sad circumstances, it’s the fact that the law codifies that someone can abort a viable baby at 30 weeks if they felt like it for no reason that’s the issue.

If liberals would just stick to fighting for abortion in the first trimester and then abortion after that in special circumstances that are approved by a physician then you would have a lot more people on your side. When you start celebrating your abortions on IG and advocating for people’s rights to abort viable babies on a whim you lose a lot of people. Just stick to France’s abortions laws and stop advocating for barbarity to stick it to Trumpsters.

If you don't understand that including special circumstances only provides piles of red tape for doctors in women to go through in a time of need and where time is of the essence for both the life of the mother and possibly the child that I don't know what to tell you. The reason abortion is legal up to the time of birth is because s*** happens and things go sideways pretty damn quickly and sometimes women and doctors need to make a decision in a split second and not wait to go to court to argue their case. Just be thankful that you've never had to be in that position, but I have no women who have and I would never vote to make them have to sacrifice their life at the 11th hour because you people can't seem to get your head around medical and health care for pregnant women doesn't always look the same and isn't always black and white

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:


And what will you do or say if red states begin offering much more comprehensive free birth control options, better prenatal care, better sex education that encourages girls to report cases of rape and incest so those instances reduce, birth rates and mother and infant mortality rates reduce, adoptions are easier and less expensive? What will you say when the red states have better overall healthcare for women rather than having a single issue with abortion as a form of birth control? Abortions are not risk free. Wouldn't preventing the pregnancy in the first place be better?


I would say that sounds like a blue state.

No kidding. No red state would support those policies because the alleged "pro-life" movement is (and has always been) about punishing and controlling women for having sex, NOT about actually caring about children.

I am sorry this is just not true.

I live in the south- you should see all the adopted kids from around the world in our church. Our whole community is geared around youth activities. We have very active charities, through our churches and otherwise.

Our local pediatric hospital will accept ANY insurance for kids. Try that in coastal cities and see what happens.

I am not going to convince you on this SC decision but you do yourself a disservice to dismiss pro life people (and the places where they live) as uncaring for children.

[Anonymous]

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And what will you do or say if red states begin offering much more comprehensive free birth control options, better prenatal care, better sex education that encourages girls to report cases of rape and incest so those instances reduce, birth rates and mother and infant mortality rates reduce, adoptions are easier and less expensive? What will you say when the red states have better overall healthcare for women rather than having a single issue with abortion as a form of birth control? Abortions are not risk free. Wouldn't preventing the pregnancy in the first place be better?


I would say that sounds like a blue state.

No kidding. No red state would support those policies because the alleged "pro-life" movement is (and has always been) about punishing and controlling women for having sex, NOT about actually caring about children.

I am sorry this is just not true.

I live in the south- you should see all the adopted kids from around the world in our church. Our whole community is geared around youth activities. We have very active charities, through our churches and otherwise.

Our local pediatric hospital will accept ANY insurance for kids. Try that in coastal cities and see what happens.

I am not going to convince you on this SC decision but you do yourself a disservice to dismiss pro life people (and the places where they live) as uncaring for children.

Pro life people should can and do care for as many children as they want. Stop forcing your reproductive healthcare views on other people that do not agree that an abortion is a murder. It is preposterous that the same woman is a pillar of the community in one state and then steps over the border and is an evil murderer. Stop doing that.

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I live in the south in a major city too, PP. In my state and yours too, since you’re in the south, we have no protected FMLA leave, have lower maternal mortality, more firearms, as well as many other issues. Pro lifers generally ARE pro controlling women. I’m glad your community is warm and fuzzy, but wake up and smell the roses.

[Anonymous]

**I mean higher maternal mortality**

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


And what will you do or say if red states begin offering much more comprehensive free birth control options, better prenatal care, better sex education that encourages girls to report cases of rape and incest so those instances reduce, birth rates and mother and infant mortality rates reduce, adoptions are easier and less expensive? What will you say when the red states have better overall healthcare for women rather than having a single issue with abortion as a form of birth control? Abortions are not risk free. Wouldn't preventing the pregnancy in the first place be better?


I would say that sounds like a blue state.

No kidding. No red state would support those policies because the alleged "pro-life" movement is (and has always been) about punishing and controlling women for having sex, NOT about actually caring about children.

I am sorry this is just not true.

I live in the south- you should see all the adopted kids from around the world in our church. Our whole community is geared around youth activities. We have very active charities, through our churches and otherwise.

Our local pediatric hospital will accept ANY insurance for kids. Try that in coastal cities and see what happens.

I am not going to convince you on this SC decision but you do yourself a disservice to dismiss pro life people (and the places where they live) as uncaring for children.

Adoption equals trauma.

Only children who should be born are those wanted by their birth mother.

-- adoptee

[Anonymous]

Yes, I don't know why more people don't talk about the trauma that those who have been adopted feel. I hate when people say there's always adoption like there aren't unintended very negative, very hurtful, very traumatic consequences for everyone involved in that choice and especially for the child. Especially now when you can easily find out who your birth parents were or your family through DNA, It is so hurtful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interestingly, applications at southern schools are up—way up. I think a lot of kids were put off by the super woke cancel culture.

Rather than cut off all ties with the south, let’s try to figure out how we got here so we can then determine how to get things back on track.

Did your list include Virginia? The guy you elected already said he wants to take action, op. Or, are you only targeting “those Deep South” states dcum likes to criticize as backwards? I think your faux purple VA is just like the others on your list. So, shall we write off VA and aaaaaaalllllll those VA based corporations? Are you ready to bail on Amazon?

Not op, but I sure am.
Also, applications hardly reflect yesterday’s decision. And kids can continue to attend schools in these states - it’ll just be a lot more dangerous for the women. But, I support choice even if I disagree with the choice someone makes.

Literally 5% of the population lists abortion as their biggest issue that they’re voting on in the mid terms. This thread, and the posters on here, are way more focused on this issue than the majority of the population. This is becoming a boutique issue for upper middle class white women.

Voters are dumb AF. Wait until these draconian laws affect them personally.

The economy affects everyone. Abortion, not so much. Dems would have a better case if they weren’t aligning themselves with people who advocate for abortions up until birth for whatever reason given. In the age of high resolution ultrasounds that kind of stuff is not supported by more than 70 percent of the population and is banned in most countries and states because people think it is barbaric outside of exceptions for the the mother’s health. Dems need to stop aligning themselves with the far left fringe on social issues like this. It is not a winning model. Take Hillary’s advice and stick to “safe, legal, and rare” and don’t give any traction to the people who want to celebrate their abortions.

Red herring. 3rd trimester abortions are very rare and for very sad reasons.

Banning abortion will ultimately impact economy as well. You’ll drive more families into poverty. Decrease education rate. Increase crime rates. Etc.

We all lose.

Not a red herring. It is legal in states like New York to have an abortion up until birth for any reason. That is barbaric and most people in the country and around the world think so. It doesn’t matter that they’re very rare and done in very sad circumstances, it’s the fact that the law codifies that someone can abort a viable baby at 30 weeks if they felt like it for no reason that’s the issue.

If liberals would just stick to fighting for abortion in the first trimester and then abortion after that in special circumstances that are approved by a physician then you would have a lot more people on your side. When you start celebrating your abortions on IG and advocating for people’s rights to abort viable babies on a whim you lose a lot of people. Just stick to France’s abortions laws and stop advocating for barbarity to stick it to Trumpsters.

First of all, we do have a lot more people on our side. We have the majority of people on our side. Thanks for the advice, though.

Second, we have no problem with approval by a physician. We believe it should be a matter between the patient and the doctor. But that's not what forced-birthers have done - they've taken that decision away from the doctors and the patients and given it to state legislatures. And that's horrifying.

[Anonymous]

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And what will you do or say if red states begin offering much more comprehensive free birth control options, better prenatal care, better sex education that encourages girls to report cases of rape and incest so those instances reduce, birth rates and mother and infant mortality rates reduce, adoptions are easier and less expensive? What will you say when the red states have better overall healthcare for women rather than having a single issue with abortion as a form of birth control? Abortions are not risk free. Wouldn't preventing the pregnancy in the first place be better?


I would say that sounds like a blue state.

No kidding. No red state would support those policies because the alleged "pro-life" movement is (and has always been) about punishing and controlling women for having sex, NOT about actually caring about children.

I am sorry this is just not true.

I live in the south- you should see all the adopted kids from around the world in our church. Our whole community is geared around youth activities. We have very active charities, through our churches and otherwise.

Our local pediatric hospital will accept ANY insurance for kids. Try that in coastal cities and see what happens.

I am not going to convince you on this SC decision but you do yourself a disservice to dismiss pro life people (and the places where they live) as uncaring for children.

+1 Although we're outnumbered on this site, there are those here who know your post reflects the truth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Pull your College App?"

Are there a lot of posters here currently applying to college? I thought most DCUM posters were already graduated from college and in their 30's, 40's, 50's...

Oh, wait! Were you telling people to pull their DAUGHTERS' applications? Shouldn't it be the daughter's choice?

Sure is she is paying for her own college. Otherwise we, the parents with the tuition money, definitely have the power of veto.

Right? Just like parents who have been paying for their daughters food, shelter, clothes, education...they should have "the power of veto" if the girl/woman finds herself pregnant an wants an abortion, right? Where is the "power of veto" line drawn?

They aren't denying her an education, they are denying it at a certain location. Many of these states are not just denying an abortion but the ability to get it in another location.