s/o. Truck convoy now headed to DC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back to the convoy, please. This is cringy.

If they are having Qanon Woodstock, it's pretty certain there will be a variety of diseases spreading.

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the convoy, please. This is cringy.

If they are having Qanon Woodstock, it's pretty certain there will be a variety of diseases spreading.

Why is there an American flag there?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the convoy, please. This is cringy.

If they are having Qanon Woodstock, it's pretty certain there will be a variety of diseases spreading.

Why is there an American flag there?

To prove it’s not the morons in Canada. On the convoy Facebook page if you look closely, many of the populated convoy pictures are taken from Canada. This is a rag tag group of seniors in pickups. I don’t think any of them work. The main stream media is doing a masterful job of ignoring these yahoos and it’s making them mad. The latest claim is that motorcycle gangs are going to join up. What a joy it must be to be on a motorcycle in bumper to bumper traffic. How long can these old guys hold up their hogs?

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Anonymous wrote:How predictable.

Haha. Maybe the dumba$$es will get vaccinated and head home.

Yeah, because taking a vax right after Covid recovery is soooo "science"

LOL. Did they ALL get covid? That’s even better karma.

Let me guess, half of them if not more already had it. It's been 2 years. If they have it again, they'll be fine, except those who have serious issues. Which is why vax mandates were harmful, they ruined all the trust in our health institutions, a "gift" that will keep on giving. Those people who really needed the vax (elderly, obese, those with pre-existing conditions) ended up not taking it, while we forced healthy and young, Covid recovered, and even little kids to take the shots to be able to participate in society.

Our entire coercion campaign and all the mandates targeted those of working age and students and kids. It skipped those who don't work for a living or attend college, ironically, the "skipped" category includes most people at risk to actually have complications. How "sciency"

How would you suggest those skipped groups be included?

By not introducing the mandates after it was announced that vax doesn't stop transmission and applying these mandates to all the low risk groups. This didn't make sense to those already skeptical or hesitant, so they hesitated even more and started to reach out to every possible information source to confirm their fears or their reasons for hesitation. Acknowledging natural immunity, acknowledging that not everyone needs these shots and it should be a choice, acknowledging that other early treatments exist or that we are open to investigating them instead of suppressing them in favor of these vaccines. By marketing these shots like we do Flu shots vs. the only salvation we have while we know so very little about the shots efficacy and safety given the lack of long term data. Older and more vulnerable people who see others around them dying would have gotten themselves protected in due time.

You’re just repeating untrue talking points. The same studies were done for efficacy and safety as are done with every vaccine. Trump was the only one pressuring the FDA to approve it ahead of the timeline we’ve been using for a long time. If you don’t understand how vaccines are studied, then maybe you should turn on Fox, and crack open a science book. FFS. Stop repeating this bullshit.

What did I say exactly that was not true?
1) Vax does not stop transmission, this was disclosed by CDC during the White house hearing on Covid in early August 2021.
2) There is no long term data because they are relatively new, it's been less than a year for most age groups and we already were supposed to receive boosters and are now discussing shot #4.
3) Repeated boosters were not tested. Vax trials excluded Covid recovered, so they were forced to become test subjects, they already have antibodies, remember? This group should have been included in formal trials before mandating Covid recovered to take the shots.
4) You know that this isn't a traditional vaccine which would use attenuated virus, the delivery mechanism (LNPs) and the way antigen gets produced (by our cellular apparatus) is very different. Do I need to explain to you in detail how they are different? Maybe it's you who need to crack open your "science book" if you do not understand this simple fact.

I don't think this thread is even about vaccines themselves, it's about MANDATES, I am not debating whether people should take the vaccines or not, this should be a choice, and there has to be consent. I am simply pointing glaring issues and data gaps that make the MANDATES and coercion violations of medical ethics

Word salad.

Tell me you didn't read it without telling me you didn't read it. Cognitive dissonance isn't easy

It’s still word salad.

[Anonymous]

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What did I say exactly that was not true?
1) Vax does not stop transmission, this was disclosed by CDC during the White house hearing on Covid in early August 2021.
2) There is no long term data because they are relatively new, it's been less than a year for most age groups and we already were supposed to receive boosters and are now discussing shot #4.
3) Repeated boosters were not tested. Vax trials excluded Covid recovered, so they were forced to become test subjects, they already have antibodies, remember? This group should have been included in formal trials before mandating Covid recovered to take the shots.
4) You know that this isn't a traditional vaccine which would use attenuated virus, the delivery mechanism (LNPs) and the way antigen gets produced (by our cellular apparatus) is very different. Do I need to explain to you in detail how they are different? Maybe it's you who need to crack open your "science book" if you do not understand this simple fact.

I don't think this thread is even about vaccines themselves, it's about MANDATES, I am not debating whether people should take the vaccines or not, this should be a choice, and there has to be consent. I am simply pointing glaring issues and data gaps that make the MANDATES and coercion violations of medical ethics

There's a vaccine that uses the attenuated virus. That's what the Sinovac vaccine does. If that's your biggest medical and ethical objection.

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What did I say exactly that was not true?
1) Vax does not stop transmission, this was disclosed by CDC during the White house hearing on Covid in early August 2021.
2) There is no long term data because they are relatively new, it's been less than a year for most age groups and we already were supposed to receive boosters and are now discussing shot #4.
3) Repeated boosters were not tested. Vax trials excluded Covid recovered, so they were forced to become test subjects, they already have antibodies, remember? This group should have been included in formal trials before mandating Covid recovered to take the shots.
4) You know that this isn't a traditional vaccine which would use attenuated virus, the delivery mechanism (LNPs) and the way antigen gets produced (by our cellular apparatus) is very different. Do I need to explain to you in detail how they are different? Maybe it's you who need to crack open your "science book" if you do not understand this simple fact.

I don't think this thread is even about vaccines themselves, it's about MANDATES, I am not debating whether people should take the vaccines or not, this should be a choice, and there has to be consent. I am simply pointing glaring issues and data gaps that make the MANDATES and coercion violations of medical ethics

There's a vaccine that uses the attenuated virus. That's what the Sinovac vaccine does. If that's your biggest medical and ethical objection.

How long Sinovac had been around?
And why do you insist everyone must take these vaccinations when data on who is at risk is very clear on CDC website. They even lowered childhood death counts by about 25%. as far as mandates go, I do have ethical objections. Nobody should be forced against their will to take medical intervention that would stay inside their body and that they cannot remove after whatever activity they were forced to take it for has ended. It was one of the main arguments during the SCOTUS hearing on OSHA mandate.

Whether I take this medication myself or not should be up to me. Maybe one day I will, after I have more confidence with it and after I feel like Covid is a higher risk than it was or a new variant has much higher mortality risk. Science is changing and we are supposed to adapt, but in general I don't believe in mandates for medical interventions as ethical choice for civilized society.

Let's be honest here. If something like Plague would befall us then people would voluntarily lock down, wear scuba gear on their heads and take any preventative when the risk of death is 50%. The point is, you do not need to force anyone. When something is this deadly no mandates are needed. It's what ironically many people think, that Covid has 50% risk, it's why we are having these discussions with those in favor of mandates. You don't have to deny that Covid is a serious illness that kills people or disables them, but you also don't have to exaggerate death rates or risk factors for low risk groups and covid recovered or deny natural immunity.

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Anonymous wrote:How predictable.

Haha. Maybe the dumba$$es will get vaccinated and head home.

Yeah, because taking a vax right after Covid recovery is soooo "science"

LOL. Did they ALL get covid? That’s even better karma.

Let me guess, half of them if not more already had it. It's been 2 years. If they have it again, they'll be fine, except those who have serious issues. Which is why vax mandates were harmful, they ruined all the trust in our health institutions, a "gift" that will keep on giving. Those people who really needed the vax (elderly, obese, those with pre-existing conditions) ended up not taking it, while we forced healthy and young, Covid recovered, and even little kids to take the shots to be able to participate in society.

Our entire coercion campaign and all the mandates targeted those of working age and students and kids. It skipped those who don't work for a living or attend college, ironically, the "skipped" category includes most people at risk to actually have complications. How "sciency"

How would you suggest those skipped groups be included?

By not introducing the mandates after it was announced that vax doesn't stop transmission and applying these mandates to all the low risk groups. This didn't make sense to those already skeptical or hesitant, so they hesitated even more and started to reach out to every possible information source to confirm their fears or their reasons for hesitation. Acknowledging natural immunity, acknowledging that not everyone needs these shots and it should be a choice, acknowledging that other early treatments exist or that we are open to investigating them instead of suppressing them in favor of these vaccines. By marketing these shots like we do Flu shots vs. the only salvation we have while we know so very little about the shots efficacy and safety given the lack of long term data. Older and more vulnerable people who see others around them dying would have gotten themselves protected in due time.

You’re just repeating untrue talking points. The same studies were done for efficacy and safety as are done with every vaccine. Trump was the only one pressuring the FDA to approve it ahead of the timeline we’ve been using for a long time. If you don’t understand how vaccines are studied, then maybe you should turn on Fox, and crack open a science book. FFS. Stop repeating this bullshit.

What did I say exactly that was not true?
1) Vax does not stop transmission, this was disclosed by CDC during the White house hearing on Covid in early August 2021.
2) There is no long term data because they are relatively new, it's been less than a year for most age groups and we already were supposed to receive boosters and are now discussing shot #4.
3) Repeated boosters were not tested. Vax trials excluded Covid recovered, so they were forced to become test subjects, they already have antibodies, remember? This group should have been included in formal trials before mandating Covid recovered to take the shots.
4) You know that this isn't a traditional vaccine which would use attenuated virus, the delivery mechanism (LNPs) and the way antigen gets produced (by our cellular apparatus) is very different. Do I need to explain to you in detail how they are different? Maybe it's you who need to crack open your "science book" if you do not understand this simple fact.

I don't think this thread is even about vaccines themselves, it's about MANDATES, I am not debating whether people should take the vaccines or not, this should be a choice, and there has to be consent. I am simply pointing glaring issues and data gaps that make the MANDATES and coercion violations of medical ethics

Word salad.

Tell me you didn't read it without telling me you didn't read it. Cognitive dissonance isn't easy

It’s still word salad.

And you are eating it, because you have nothing else to say.

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Anonymous wrote:How predictable.

Haha. Maybe the dumba$$es will get vaccinated and head home.

Yeah, because taking a vax right after Covid recovery is soooo "science"

LOL. Did they ALL get covid? That’s even better karma.

Let me guess, half of them if not more already had it. It's been 2 years. If they have it again, they'll be fine, except those who have serious issues. Which is why vax mandates were harmful, they ruined all the trust in our health institutions, a "gift" that will keep on giving. Those people who really needed the vax (elderly, obese, those with pre-existing conditions) ended up not taking it, while we forced healthy and young, Covid recovered, and even little kids to take the shots to be able to participate in society.

Our entire coercion campaign and all the mandates targeted those of working age and students and kids. It skipped those who don't work for a living or attend college, ironically, the "skipped" category includes most people at risk to actually have complications. How "sciency"

How would you suggest those skipped groups be included?

By not introducing the mandates after it was announced that vax doesn't stop transmission and applying these mandates to all the low risk groups. This didn't make sense to those already skeptical or hesitant, so they hesitated even more and started to reach out to every possible information source to confirm their fears or their reasons for hesitation. Acknowledging natural immunity, acknowledging that not everyone needs these shots and it should be a choice, acknowledging that other early treatments exist or that we are open to investigating them instead of suppressing them in favor of these vaccines. By marketing these shots like we do Flu shots vs. the only salvation we have while we know so very little about the shots efficacy and safety given the lack of long term data. Older and more vulnerable people who see others around them dying would have gotten themselves protected in due time.

You’re just repeating untrue talking points. The same studies were done for efficacy and safety as are done with every vaccine. Trump was the only one pressuring the FDA to approve it ahead of the timeline we’ve been using for a long time. If you don’t understand how vaccines are studied, then maybe you should turn on Fox, and crack open a science book. FFS. Stop repeating this bullshit.

What did I say exactly that was not true?
1) Vax does not stop transmission, this was disclosed by CDC during the White house hearing on Covid in early August 2021.
2) There is no long term data because they are relatively new, it's been less than a year for most age groups and we already were supposed to receive boosters and are now discussing shot #4.
3) Repeated boosters were not tested. Vax trials excluded Covid recovered, so they were forced to become test subjects, they already have antibodies, remember? This group should have been included in formal trials before mandating Covid recovered to take the shots.
4) You know that this isn't a traditional vaccine which would use attenuated virus, the delivery mechanism (LNPs) and the way antigen gets produced (by our cellular apparatus) is very different. Do I need to explain to you in detail how they are different? Maybe it's you who need to crack open your "science book" if you do not understand this simple fact.

I don't think this thread is even about vaccines themselves, it's about MANDATES, I am not debating whether people should take the vaccines or not, this should be a choice, and there has to be consent. I am simply pointing glaring issues and data gaps that make the MANDATES and coercion violations of medical ethics

Word salad.

Tell me you didn't read it without telling me you didn't read it. Cognitive dissonance isn't easy

It’s still word salad.

And you are eating it, because you have nothing else to say.

When it's nonsense, i.e., word salad, there is nothing to say to it
-not the OP about it

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Anonymous wrote:How predictable.

Haha. Maybe the dumba$$es will get vaccinated and head home.

Yeah, because taking a vax right after Covid recovery is soooo "science"

LOL. Did they ALL get covid? That’s even better karma.

Let me guess, half of them if not more already had it. It's been 2 years. If they have it again, they'll be fine, except those who have serious issues. Which is why vax mandates were harmful, they ruined all the trust in our health institutions, a "gift" that will keep on giving. Those people who really needed the vax (elderly, obese, those with pre-existing conditions) ended up not taking it, while we forced healthy and young, Covid recovered, and even little kids to take the shots to be able to participate in society.

Our entire coercion campaign and all the mandates targeted those of working age and students and kids. It skipped those who don't work for a living or attend college, ironically, the "skipped" category includes most people at risk to actually have complications. How "sciency"

How would you suggest those skipped groups be included?

By not introducing the mandates after it was announced that vax doesn't stop transmission and applying these mandates to all the low risk groups. This didn't make sense to those already skeptical or hesitant, so they hesitated even more and started to reach out to every possible information source to confirm their fears or their reasons for hesitation. Acknowledging natural immunity, acknowledging that not everyone needs these shots and it should be a choice, acknowledging that other early treatments exist or that we are open to investigating them instead of suppressing them in favor of these vaccines. By marketing these shots like we do Flu shots vs. the only salvation we have while we know so very little about the shots efficacy and safety given the lack of long term data. Older and more vulnerable people who see others around them dying would have gotten themselves protected in due time.

You’re just repeating untrue talking points. The same studies were done for efficacy and safety as are done with every vaccine. Trump was the only one pressuring the FDA to approve it ahead of the timeline we’ve been using for a long time. If you don’t understand how vaccines are studied, then maybe you should turn on Fox, and crack open a science book. FFS. Stop repeating this bullshit.

What did I say exactly that was not true?
1) Vax does not stop transmission, this was disclosed by CDC during the White house hearing on Covid in early August 2021.
2) There is no long term data because they are relatively new, it's been less than a year for most age groups and we already were supposed to receive boosters and are now discussing shot #4.
3) Repeated boosters were not tested. Vax trials excluded Covid recovered, so they were forced to become test subjects, they already have antibodies, remember? This group should have been included in formal trials before mandating Covid recovered to take the shots.
4) You know that this isn't a traditional vaccine which would use attenuated virus, the delivery mechanism (LNPs) and the way antigen gets produced (by our cellular apparatus) is very different. Do I need to explain to you in detail how they are different? Maybe it's you who need to crack open your "science book" if you do not understand this simple fact.

I don't think this thread is even about vaccines themselves, it's about MANDATES, I am not debating whether people should take the vaccines or not, this should be a choice, and there has to be consent. I am simply pointing glaring issues and data gaps that make the MANDATES and coercion violations of medical ethics

Word salad.

Tell me you didn't read it without telling me you didn't read it. Cognitive dissonance isn't easy

It’s still word salad.

And you are eating it, because you have nothing else to say.

When it's nonsense, i.e., word salad, there is nothing to say to it
-not the OP about it

And yet you managed to say a lot without really saying anything meaningful or forming anything resembling an argument

[Anonymous]

Today was day 28. They plan to continue.

Trucker convoy protesting COVID mandates in DC to continue all week

https://wjla.com/news/local/trucker-convoy-protesting-covid-mandates-dc-beltway-traffic-continue-all-week-long-demands-masks-vaccine-police-mpd-gridlock-i95-i395-hagerstown-maryland-washington

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Today was day 28. They plan to continue.

Trucker convoy protesting COVID mandates in DC to continue all week

https://wjla.com/news/local/trucker-convoy-protesting-covid-mandates-dc-beltway-traffic-continue-all-week-long-demands-masks-vaccine-police-mpd-gridlock-i95-i395-hagerstown-maryland-washington

THEY DON’T EVEN LIVE IN DC. WHY TF DO THEY CARE THAT THERE ARE MANDATES WHERE THEY DON’T EVEN LIVE.

[Anonymous]

This is still happening? I haven’t heard about it at all this week. Are road closures still happening?

[Anonymous]

What are those brave, patriotic truckers up to today?

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Anonymous wrote:How predictable.

Haha. Maybe the dumba$$es will get vaccinated and head home.

Yeah, because taking a vax right after Covid recovery is soooo "science"

LOL. Did they ALL get covid? That’s even better karma.

Let me guess, half of them if not more already had it. It's been 2 years. If they have it again, they'll be fine, except those who have serious issues. Which is why vax mandates were harmful, they ruined all the trust in our health institutions, a "gift" that will keep on giving. Those people who really needed the vax (elderly, obese, those with pre-existing conditions) ended up not taking it, while we forced healthy and young, Covid recovered, and even little kids to take the shots to be able to participate in society.

Our entire coercion campaign and all the mandates targeted those of working age and students and kids. It skipped those who don't work for a living or attend college, ironically, the "skipped" category includes most people at risk to actually have complications. How "sciency"

How would you suggest those skipped groups be included?

By not introducing the mandates after it was announced that vax doesn't stop transmission and applying these mandates to all the low risk groups. This didn't make sense to those already skeptical or hesitant, so they hesitated even more and started to reach out to every possible information source to confirm their fears or their reasons for hesitation. Acknowledging natural immunity, acknowledging that not everyone needs these shots and it should be a choice, acknowledging that other early treatments exist or that we are open to investigating them instead of suppressing them in favor of these vaccines. By marketing these shots like we do Flu shots vs. the only salvation we have while we know so very little about the shots efficacy and safety given the lack of long term data. Older and more vulnerable people who see others around them dying would have gotten themselves protected in due time.

You’re just repeating untrue talking points. The same studies were done for efficacy and safety as are done with every vaccine. Trump was the only one pressuring the FDA to approve it ahead of the timeline we’ve been using for a long time. If you don’t understand how vaccines are studied, then maybe you should turn on Fox, and crack open a science book. FFS. Stop repeating this bullshit.

What did I say exactly that was not true?
1) Vax does not stop transmission, this was disclosed by CDC during the White house hearing on Covid in early August 2021.
2) There is no long term data because they are relatively new, it's been less than a year for most age groups and we already were supposed to receive boosters and are now discussing shot #4.
3) Repeated boosters were not tested. Vax trials excluded Covid recovered, so they were forced to become test subjects, they already have antibodies, remember? This group should have been included in formal trials before mandating Covid recovered to take the shots.
4) You know that this isn't a traditional vaccine which would use attenuated virus, the delivery mechanism (LNPs) and the way antigen gets produced (by our cellular apparatus) is very different. Do I need to explain to you in detail how they are different? Maybe it's you who need to crack open your "science book" if you do not understand this simple fact.

I don't think this thread is even about vaccines themselves, it's about MANDATES, I am not debating whether people should take the vaccines or not, this should be a choice, and there has to be consent. I am simply pointing glaring issues and data gaps that make the MANDATES and coercion violations of medical ethics

Word salad.

Tell me you didn't read it without telling me you didn't read it. Cognitive dissonance isn't easy

It’s still word salad.

And you are eating it, because you have nothing else to say.

When it's nonsense, i.e., word salad, there is nothing to say to it
-not the OP about it

And yet you managed to say a lot without really saying anything meaningful or forming anything resembling an argument

Keep posting, Cletus. It keeps you out of trouble.

[jsteele]

Members of the convoy assaulted a motorcyclist: