Missionaries should be banned

[Anonymous]

op: what country are you originally from?

what was your experience with missionaries?

do you donate your time to working as a secular aid worker now?

Why do you think communist countries and countries under Sharia law ban, imprison, or kill missionaries, and why do you think that’s ok?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How about this:
-All missionaries are motivated to serve for religion reasons, varies by religion and individual.
-Some missionaries proselytize with deeds.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.

Anyone disagree?

Good lord

The “we’ve all agreed, here’s the list we’ve agreed to, it’s settled!” posts are continuing. It’s obsessive.

Should be easy enough to come to some consensus. Nothing controversial above.

Topic is missionaries. Can you comment on points above? You agree?

DP. Aww, how cute that you spent your Saturday night trying to gorge a consensus among 5 posters on a mom’s website, for the greater good of the outside world.

It bears repeating: nobody trusts you enough to engage with you except to point out your distortions and omissions—and that’s only so you don’t claim said distortions and omissions represent some sort of fake consensus. Your posts on this thread, including your earlier versions of this very list, demonstrate your pattern of distorting and ignoring what other people say. All the time. You either distort what other people say, or you ignore their facts about what missionaries actually do.

So if we were to agree with you that, say, the grass is green, it’s totally likely that on the next page you’ll post “this thread has proven that everybody agrees the grass is blue.”

You have only yourself to blame.

Yes, I do try to ignore the ad hominem attacks. Not worth my time.

So, do you agree or disagree with the points above?

Yes, you’re incapable of self-reflection. Yes, you have no interest in knowing why your posts and threads here are such failures.

As such, you’ll continue to waste days and weeks of your own time, by continuing to do what you’ve been doing, forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about this:
-All missionaries are motivated to serve for religion reasons, varies by religion and individual.
-Some missionaries proselytize with deeds.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.

Anyone disagree?

Are you op? What country are you originally from? What negative impact did you see missionaries having in your country?

DP. I’d like to see answers to these questions too. What is pp’s skin in the game here?

probably the same poster who makes up scenarios about Christian proselytizing and then never answers questions about the situations.

there’s consistent posts here that follow the same pattern:

a poster posts about a situation that complains about Christian proselytizing and then when other people comment, they give vague answers or just disappear.

notice op won’t give the name of the country they are from, or answer what they saw in their country about this issue.

also posts about relatives or caregivers “proselytizing” her as a kid, and she never answers why her parents didn’t protect her from such people.

You seem to be confusing at least three different posters.

Is this a common problem for you? Confusing multiple posters? There are lots of people on the interwebs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:op: what country are you originally from?

what was your experience with missionaries?

do you donate your time to working as a secular aid worker now?

Why do you think communist countries and countries under Sharia law ban, imprison, or kill missionaries, and why do you think that’s ok?

DP. Would you permit me to add:

What do you propose should replace the banned missionary work, given that several here have said secular aid doesn’t always exist in rural or dangerous places? (On a related note, why do you continue to maintain those pp’s were lying?) Should poor people just go without food and medical aid? (Said from the comfort of your warm couch, as you pour a third glass of Malbec.)

Why do you think poor people—in third world countries or Appalachia—are incapable of making their own decisions? (You’ve been asked this at least 20 times, still no real answer.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about this:
-All missionaries are motivated to serve for religion reasons, varies by religion and individual.
-Some missionaries proselytize with deeds.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.

Anyone disagree?

Good lord

The “we’ve all agreed, here’s the list we’ve agreed to, it’s settled!” posts are continuing. It’s obsessive.

Should be easy enough to come to some consensus. Nothing controversial above.

Topic is missionaries. Can you comment on points above? You agree?

DP. Aww, how cute that you spent your Saturday night trying to gorge a consensus among 5 posters on a mom’s website, for the greater good of the outside world.

It bears repeating: nobody trusts you enough to engage with you except to point out your distortions and omissions—and that’s only so you don’t claim said distortions and omissions represent some sort of fake consensus. Your posts on this thread, including your earlier versions of this very list, demonstrate your pattern of distorting and ignoring what other people say. All the time. You either distort what other people say, or you ignore their facts about what missionaries actually do.

So if we were to agree with you that, say, the grass is green, it’s totally likely that on the next page you’ll post “this thread has proven that everybody agrees the grass is blue.”

You have only yourself to blame.

Yes, I do try to ignore the ad hominem attacks. Not worth my time.

So, do you agree or disagree with the points above?

Yes, you’re incapable of self-reflection. Yes, you have no interest in knowing why your posts and threads here are such failures.

As such, you’ll continue to waste days and weeks of your own time, by continuing to do what you’ve been doing, forever.

More ad hominem. Zero substance.

It’s a shame you don’t seem capable of answering honestly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:op: what country are you originally from?

what was your experience with missionaries?

do you donate your time to working as a secular aid worker now?

Why do you think communist countries and countries under Sharia law ban, imprison, or kill missionaries, and why do you think that’s ok?

DP. Would you permit me to add:

What do you propose should replace the banned missionary work, given that several here have said secular aid doesn’t always exist in rural or dangerous places? (On a related note, why do you continue to maintain those pp’s were lying?) Should poor people just go without food and medical aid? (Said from the comfort of your warm couch, as you pour a third glass of Malbec.)

Why do you think poor people—in third world countries or Appalachia—are incapable of making their own decisions? (You’ve been asked this at least 20 times, still no real answer.)

I’ve been asked this. And I’ve answered multiple times.

But I’m not OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:op: what country are you originally from?

what was your experience with missionaries?

do you donate your time to working as a secular aid worker now?

Why do you think communist countries and countries under Sharia law ban, imprison, or kill missionaries, and why do you think that’s ok?

DP. Would you permit me to add:

What do you propose should replace the banned missionary work, given that several here have said secular aid doesn’t always exist in rural or dangerous places? (On a related note, why do you continue to maintain those pp’s were lying?) Should poor people just go without food and medical aid? (Said from the comfort of your warm couch, as you pour a third glass of Malbec.)

Why do you think poor people—in third world countries or Appalachia—are incapable of making their own decisions? (You’ve been asked this at least 20 times, still no real answer.)

I’ve been asked this. And I’ve answered multiple times.

But I’m not OP.

Yeah “op” has disappeared per usual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about this:
-All missionaries are motivated to serve for religion reasons, varies by religion and individual.
-Some missionaries proselytize with deeds.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.

Anyone disagree?

Are you op? What country are you originally from? What negative impact did you see missionaries having in your country?

DP. I’d like to see answers to these questions too. What is pp’s skin in the game here?

probably the same poster who makes up scenarios about Christian proselytizing and then never answers questions about the situations.

there’s consistent posts here that follow the same pattern:

a poster posts about a situation that complains about Christian proselytizing and then when other people comment, they give vague answers or just disappear.

notice op won’t give the name of the country they are from, or answer what they saw in their country about this issue.

also posts about relatives or caregivers “proselytizing” her as a kid, and she never answers why her parents didn’t protect her from such people.

You seem to be confusing at least three different posters.

Is this a common problem for you? Confusing multiple posters? There are lots of people on the interwebs.

DP. Seems like it’s just you, over and over again.

That doesn’t matter though. You’re obviously just tossing out ad hominems in a transparent attempt to deflect from answering the questions yourself.

Go ahead, answer the questions for yourself! Instead of deflecting with ad hominems, you’re a perfect candidate for answering these questions. Are you waiting for the other 2 mythical posters like you to answer? What are you waiting for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about this:
-All missionaries are motivated to serve for religion reasons, varies by religion and individual.
-Some missionaries proselytize with deeds.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.

Anyone disagree?

Are you op? What country are you originally from? What negative impact did you see missionaries having in your country?

DP. I’d like to see answers to these questions too. What is pp’s skin in the game here?

probably the same poster who makes up scenarios about Christian proselytizing and then never answers questions about the situations.

there’s consistent posts here that follow the same pattern:

a poster posts about a situation that complains about Christian proselytizing and then when other people comment, they give vague answers or just disappear.

notice op won’t give the name of the country they are from, or answer what they saw in their country about this issue.

also posts about relatives or caregivers “proselytizing” her as a kid, and she never answers why her parents didn’t protect her from such people.

You seem to be confusing at least three different posters.

Is this a common problem for you? Confusing multiple posters? There are lots of people on the interwebs.

DP. Seems like it’s just you, over and over again.

That doesn’t matter though. You’re obviously just tossing out ad hominems in a transparent attempt to deflect from answering the questions yourself.

Go ahead, answer the questions for yourself! Instead of deflecting with ad hominems, you’re a perfect candidate for answering these questions. Are you waiting for the other 2 mythical posters like you to answer? What are you waiting for?

Sock puppets gotta sock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:op: what country are you originally from?

what was your experience with missionaries?

do you donate your time to working as a secular aid worker now?

Why do you think communist countries and countries under Sharia law ban, imprison, or kill missionaries, and why do you think that’s ok?

DP. Would you permit me to add:

What do you propose should replace the banned missionary work, given that several here have said secular aid doesn’t always exist in rural or dangerous places? (On a related note, why do you continue to maintain those pp’s were lying?) Should poor people just go without food and medical aid? (Said from the comfort of your warm couch, as you pour a third glass of Malbec.)

Why do you think poor people—in third world countries or Appalachia—are incapable of making their own decisions? (You’ve been asked this at least 20 times, still no real answer.)

I’ve been asked this. And I’ve answered multiple times.

But I’m not OP.

Nobody has answered this except to deflect by making false claims about ambiguous videos.

Anyway, care to recap for us?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:op: what country are you originally from?

what was your experience with missionaries?

do you donate your time to working as a secular aid worker now?

Why do you think communist countries and countries under Sharia law ban, imprison, or kill missionaries, and why do you think that’s ok?

DP. Would you permit me to add:

What do you propose should replace the banned missionary work, given that several here have said secular aid doesn’t always exist in rural or dangerous places? (On a related note, why do you continue to maintain those pp’s were lying?) Should poor people just go without food and medical aid? (Said from the comfort of your warm couch, as you pour a third glass of Malbec.)

Why do you think poor people—in third world countries or Appalachia—are incapable of making their own decisions? (You’ve been asked this at least 20 times, still no real answer.)

I’ve been asked this. And I’ve answered multiple times.

But I’m not OP.

Nobody has answered this except to deflect by making false claims about ambiguous videos.

Anyway, care to recap for us?

Go back and re-read. I responded to this question (again) in the last day or two. Not my job to fill you in if you can't keep up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about this:
-All missionaries are motivated to serve for religion reasons, varies by religion and individual.
-Some missionaries proselytize with deeds.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.

Anyone disagree?

Are you op? What country are you originally from? What negative impact did you see missionaries having in your country?

DP. I’d like to see answers to these questions too. What is pp’s skin in the game here?

probably the same poster who makes up scenarios about Christian proselytizing and then never answers questions about the situations.

there’s consistent posts here that follow the same pattern:

a poster posts about a situation that complains about Christian proselytizing and then when other people comment, they give vague answers or just disappear.

notice op won’t give the name of the country they are from, or answer what they saw in their country about this issue.

also posts about relatives or caregivers “proselytizing” her as a kid, and she never answers why her parents didn’t protect her from such people.

You seem to be confusing at least three different posters.

Is this a common problem for you? Confusing multiple posters? There are lots of people on the interwebs.

DP. Seems like it’s just you, over and over again.

That doesn’t matter though. You’re obviously just tossing out ad hominems in a transparent attempt to deflect from answering the questions yourself.

Go ahead, answer the questions for yourself! Instead of deflecting with ad hominems, you’re a perfect candidate for answering these questions. Are you waiting for the other 2 mythical posters like you to answer? What are you waiting for?

I haven't deflected with any ad hominens. You are confusing posters. Seems to be a common issue on here.

[Anonymous]

Agree or disagree:
-All missionaries are motivated to serve for religion reasons, varies by religion and individual.
-Some missionaries proselytize with deeds.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.

Anyone capable of responding sincerely?

Or will it just be more lazy ad hominems?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:op: what country are you originally from?

what was your experience with missionaries?

do you donate your time to working as a secular aid worker now?

Why do you think communist countries and countries under Sharia law ban, imprison, or kill missionaries, and why do you think that’s ok?

DP. Would you permit me to add:

What do you propose should replace the banned missionary work, given that several here have said secular aid doesn’t always exist in rural or dangerous places? (On a related note, why do you continue to maintain those pp’s were lying?) Should poor people just go without food and medical aid? (Said from the comfort of your warm couch, as you pour a third glass of Malbec.)

Why do you think poor people—in third world countries or Appalachia—are incapable of making their own decisions? (You’ve been asked this at least 20 times, still no real answer.)

Were you looking for OP to answer these? It was addressed to OP so not sure...

- not op but frequent contributor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree or disagree:
-All missionaries are motivated to serve for religion reasons, varies by religion and individual.
-Some missionaries proselytize with deeds.
-Some missionaries proselytize with words.
-It's unethical to proselytize during vulnerable moments.

Anyone capable of responding sincerely?

Or will it just be more lazy ad hominems?

All of the above. But in my opinion, missionaries are people who spread the word. Those digging wells and performing very valuable medical services are doing charity work. They may have been sent out by a religious organization, but they aren't doing "missionary" work, at least not the way Jesus intended it in Matthew. Paul is a classic example. And Mother Theresa, tried to convert people on their death beds. So I guess that is a mixed-case, because she did some valuable work also.