Kobe Bryant killed in helicopter crash (per TMZ)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Somehow, I have not been able to understand the Black experience in this country because I am not Black and I am an immigrant. I have observed though that it dampens the criticism that Black community extends to a Black celebrity over any wrong doing because how the entire race will be percieved by non-Blacks and because they feel that the world wants to bring down the Black man. I first saw it with OJ Simpson, then Cosby, now Kobe. This cannot be healthy.
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If Kobe were a white guy and died the way he did, his rape case would’ve been dismissed by everyone and it would’ve not even been mentioned. That’s how it is in America. If you’re black and you do one thing, even if you’re not convicted, you die guilty as a bad person, no matter what.

White people will claim it has nothing to do with race, when it reality it has everything to do with race.

I am 100 percent sure that Roethlisberger's death will be accompanied by tons of rehashing of his rape charges.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Since posters are claiming that Kobe should be exempt from being remembered for the sexual assault because -
- athletes, even married fathers, cheat
- groupies like to have sex with them and often try to extort them
- wives know and accept this deal because of the money
- he committed adultry not rape
Makes me realize that we should continue to talk about Kobe in this context, especially now that he is dead. Infact, his daughters should know what he was accused of and what he admitted to.. Why? Only then male athletes will change their behaviour. Kobe should be made an example of and his legacy should always be remembered along with this incident (adultry with battery or violent rape - you choose). Unless athletes are made aware that this inhumane beastial behaviour will not be pardoned and forgotten, they will never have any motivation to change. Kobe will not be forgiven and neither will any other athlete who dares to rape. Keep it in your pants and use your damn hands.
Let athletes know that

Who died and made you the sex police? Buzz off. These are adults making adult decisions. Who the hell are you to try to dictate what grown adults can do? Your arrogance is astounding.

Who died? Kobe did. Remember that exceptional athlete who was beloved and who also cheated on his wife and raped a teenager?

We all will take some stance - rape protestors, rape apologists and neutral Switzerland. No one made me the sex police but when did you become the pimp?

You continue to post nonsensical gibberish. Take a minute to collect yourself and come back when you have something coherent to say. You still live in a delusional world where you think you have the right to tell consenting adults how they can have sex.

Except consent was not given.

You are trying to dictate what ALL athletes and groupies should and should not do with their bodies and the manner in which they should do it. You’re also criminalizing sex just because it’s athletes having it. You throw around the R word like your life depended on it. Again, who the hell do you think you are? Groupies know what they are doing and so do athletes. If you have a problem with it, go whine to your priest on Sunday. Again, you arrogance is astounding.

Not all athletes are in a position where they have to defend their rough extramarital sex with a stranger, who later says she did not consent. If you are going to do the deed, you have to be prepared for embarrassing scrutiny. Too bad, so sad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/los-angeles-lakers-kobe-bryant-wife-vanessa-bryant-files-for-divorce-121611&ved=2ahUKEwje-732lK3nAhXFj3IEHRQyDzIQFjAHegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw3cvUFMSfOdFsVTS4DNuqVp&cshid=1580450609921

Wow! this is the reality of this marriage. Pretty sordid.

NP here. What's with the eyeroll? Its pretty apparent that he was far from the perfect husband.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Somehow, I have not been able to understand the Black experience in this country because I am not Black and I am an immigrant. I have observed though that it dampens the criticism that Black community extends to a Black celebrity over any wrong doing because how the entire race will be percieved by non-Blacks and because they feel that the world wants to bring down the Black man. I first saw it with OJ Simpson, then Cosby, now Kobe. This cannot be healthy.
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If Kobe were a white guy and died the way he did, his rape case would’ve been dismissed by everyone and it would’ve not even been mentioned. That’s how it is in America. If you’re black and you do one thing, even if you’re not convicted, you die guilty as a bad person, no matter what.

White people will claim it has nothing to do with race, when it reality it has everything to do with race.

I am 100 percent sure that Roethlisberger's death will be accompanied by tons of rehashing of his rape charges.

And that’s the problem with this fake outrage. If you are so outraged then shut these men down when they are alive. Roethlisberger should be afraid to step foot on the field. There should be protesters at every game. Outside of his home. There should be articles everyday talking about him. Same with Woody Allen. Why are people still working with him?

[Anonymous]

Great piece here.

“The Kobe Bryant story made me sad. It made my son sad, as he walked down the stairs on Sunday afternoon to tell me about it–a full hour before CNN reported the news. It made me sad that Vanessa Bryant lost a husband AND a child. That her older daughter lost her sister and her father. That their 7-month-old baby won’t know her dad at all. That their 3-year-old is probably asking for him and her sister on repeat.

But that’s not the story that really got me in this tragedy.

What struck me was the seven others on board. Seven other indispensable, deeply-loved people. Seven other giants.”
https://snappshots.com/2020/01/28/the-seven-others/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somehow, I have not been able to understand the Black experience in this country because I am not Black and I am an immigrant. I have observed though that it dampens the criticism that Black community extends to a Black celebrity over any wrong doing because how the entire race will be percieved by non-Blacks and because they feel that the world wants to bring down the Black man. I first saw it with OJ Simpson, then Cosby, now Kobe. This cannot be healthy.
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If Kobe were a white guy and died the way he did, his rape case would’ve been dismissed by everyone and it would’ve not even been mentioned. That’s how it is in America. If you’re black and you do one thing, even if you’re not convicted, you die guilty as a bad person, no matter what.

White people will claim it has nothing to do with race, when it reality it has everything to do with race.

I am 100 percent sure that Roethlisberger's death will be accompanied by tons of rehashing of his rape charges.

And that’s the problem with this fake outrage. If you are so outraged then shut these men down when they are alive. Roethlisberger should be afraid to step foot on the field. There should be protesters at every game. Outside of his home. There should be articles everyday talking about him. Same with Woody Allen. Why are people still working with him?

Nope. They don’t care. They tried to go after Kobe again when he was nominated for an Oscar award (or whatever the movie award is called). But guys like Woody Allen, Rothlesburger (who did the same thing as Kobe and settled but shhhh), get nothing.

Heck, Cuba Gooding Jr got more backlash for a woman in a bar simply brushing her boob on his arm. Seriously. But guys like Stephen Collins, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski....silence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Somehow, I have not been able to understand the Black experience in this country because I am not Black and I am an immigrant. I have observed though that it dampens the criticism that Black community extends to a Black celebrity over any wrong doing because how the entire race will be percieved by non-Blacks and because they feel that the world wants to bring down the Black man. I first saw it with OJ Simpson, then Cosby, now Kobe. This cannot be healthy.
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If Kobe were a white guy and died the way he did, his rape case would’ve been dismissed by everyone and it would’ve not even been mentioned. That’s how it is in America. If you’re black and you do one thing, even if you’re not convicted, you die guilty as a bad person, no matter what.

White people will claim it has nothing to do with race, when it reality it has everything to do with race.

I am 100 percent sure that Roethlisberger's death will be accompanied by tons of rehashing of his rape charges.

100%

Not many people will be mourned like Kobe has been, black OR white. Least of all that nasty Ben Rothlesberger!!!! When I look at that man on TV, all I see is rapist.

[Anonymous]

It’s taken far too long, but is someone seriously implying that Weinstein isn’t facing consequences?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s taken far too long, but is someone seriously implying that Weinstein isn’t facing consequences?

I think its the first part of your statement. His activities were WELL KNOWN but he was not stopped. So yeah the consequences should've come sooner. It isn't fair the consequences came later. Same with Bill Cosby. Both got to enjoy making money and be part of the rich and famous club far longer than they should have.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s taken far too long, but is someone seriously implying that Weinstein isn’t facing consequences?

I think its the first part of your statement. His activities were WELL KNOWN but he was not stopped. So yeah the consequences should've come sooner. It isn't fair the consequences came later. Same with Bill Cosby. Both got to enjoy making money and be part of the rich and famous club far longer than they should have.

see also: R. Kelly

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somehow, I have not been able to understand the Black experience in this country because I am not Black and I am an immigrant. I have observed though that it dampens the criticism that Black community extends to a Black celebrity over any wrong doing because how the entire race will be percieved by non-Blacks and because they feel that the world wants to bring down the Black man. I first saw it with OJ Simpson, then Cosby, now Kobe. This cannot be healthy.
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If Kobe were a white guy and died the way he did, his rape case would’ve been dismissed by everyone and it would’ve not even been mentioned. That’s how it is in America. If you’re black and you do one thing, even if you’re not convicted, you die guilty as a bad person, no matter what.

White people will claim it has nothing to do with race, when it reality it has everything to do with race.

It is being dismissed by 99% of the human race because he didn't rape anyone. Of course there are hateful people, trolls, SJW types, etc, who will try to get some attention out of it and make themselves feel good.

Pretty much. Bored beckys who have nothing else going in their life and spend their free time hating on a dead man while totally being ok with creeps like Harvey Weinstein and Stephen Collins (7th heaven dad who molested several girls up until 1995) who are roaming the world free. For those men, it’s “just a mistake” but for Kobe, he should go down as a rapist based even though it’s unconvicted.

Show me one person who thinks Harvey Weinstein or Stephen Collins should go free. Just one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a sexual assault survivor and my rapist went to jail. I live in Los Angeles and it makes me want to throw up whenever I see Kobe jerseys. I know people hate the word triggering, but that’s how this feels. I got justice but the defence attorney put me through hell to get it. It’s really hard for me to see all this adoration for Kobe when I view him as a rapist.

+1
His legacy would have been that of Mike Tysonof he would have gone to jail.. His time on Earth and his life wAs very lucky and cushy.

Well complain to his accuser who chose to settle and take the money.

If I had to do it over again, I would have taken the money. Going to court was so traumatising and humiliating. I have ptsd from the rape andthsr experience. Unless you’ve been raped YOU DONT GET IT. I’ve spent 20 years once therapy. That’s expensive. Money could have helped me a lot and going to court just made me feel violated all over again.

I’m sorry for what you went through.

+1, Love to you and I was also sexually assaulted and also can't believe how people just forget this about him. It is sad. But he made someone (probably multiple someones) have to fight like hell just to have a life after what he did. And what they did to her after charges were placed. Nobody deserves death but let's all take this in stride here. Or at least be true to his real legend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somehow, I have not been able to understand the Black experience in this country because I am not Black and I am an immigrant. I have observed though that it dampens the criticism that Black community extends to a Black celebrity over any wrong doing because how the entire race will be percieved by non-Blacks and because they feel that the world wants to bring down the Black man. I first saw it with OJ Simpson, then Cosby, now Kobe. This cannot be healthy.
.

If Kobe were a white guy and died the way he did, his rape case would’ve been dismissed by everyone and it would’ve not even been mentioned. That’s how it is in America. If you’re black and you do one thing, even if you’re not convicted, you die guilty as a bad person, no matter what.

White people will claim it has nothing to do with race, when it reality it has everything to do with race.

It is being dismissed by 99% of the human race because he didn't rape anyone. Of course there are hateful people, trolls, SJW types, etc, who will try to get some attention out of it and make themselves feel good.

Pretty much. Bored beckys who have nothing else going in their life and spend their free time hating on a dead man while totally being ok with creeps like Harvey Weinstein and Stephen Collins (7th heaven dad who molested several girls up until 1995) who are roaming the world free. For those men, it’s “just a mistake” but for Kobe, he should go down as a rapist based even though it’s unconvicted.

Show me one person who thinks Harvey Weinstein or Stephen Collins should go free. Just one.

They ARE free. That’s the issue. Stephen Collins literally went on ABC in an interview and that was the end of it. 7th heaven still airs currently. Meanwhile, Cosby is locked up and they have taken Cosby off syndication.

That tells you a lot. If you think race isn’t a factor, you’re being obtusely ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since posters are claiming that Kobe should be exempt from being remembered for the sexual assault because -
- athletes, even married fathers, cheat
- groupies like to have sex with them and often try to extort them
- wives know and accept this deal because of the money
- he committed adultry not rape
Makes me realize that we should continue to talk about Kobe in this context, especially now that he is dead. Infact, his daughters should know what he was accused of and what he admitted to.. Why? Only then male athletes will change their behaviour. Kobe should be made an example of and his legacy should always be remembered along with this incident (adultry with battery or violent rape - you choose). Unless athletes are made aware that this inhumane beastial behaviour will not be pardoned and forgotten, they will never have any motivation to change. Kobe will not be forgiven and neither will any other athlete who dares to rape. Keep it in your pants and use your damn hands.
Let athletes know that

Who died and made you the sex police? Buzz off. These are adults making adult decisions. Who the hell are you to try to dictate what grown adults can do? Your arrogance is astounding.

Who died? Kobe did. Remember that exceptional athlete who was beloved and who also cheated on his wife and raped a teenager?

We all will take some stance - rape protestors, rape apologists and neutral Switzerland. No one made me the sex police but when did you become the pimp?

You continue to post nonsensical gibberish. Take a minute to collect yourself and come back when you have something coherent to say. You still live in a delusional world where you think you have the right to tell consenting adults how they can have sex.

Except consent was not given.

You are trying to dictate what ALL athletes and groupies should and should not do with their bodies and the manner in which they should do it. You’re also criminalizing sex just because it’s athletes having it. You throw around the R word like your life depended on it. Again, who the hell do you think you are? Groupies know what they are doing and so do athletes. If you have a problem with it, go whine to your priest on Sunday. Again, you arrogance is astounding.

Not all athletes are in a position where they have to defend their rough extramarital sex with a stranger, who later says she did not consent. If you are going to do the deed, you have to be prepared for embarrassing scrutiny. Too bad, so sad.

Then why are you trying to meddle in the sex lives of all athletes? Go collect your thoughts. You make no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since posters are claiming that Kobe should be exempt from being remembered for the sexual assault because -
- athletes, even married fathers, cheat
- groupies like to have sex with them and often try to extort them
- wives know and accept this deal because of the money
- he committed adultry not rape
Makes me realize that we should continue to talk about Kobe in this context, especially now that he is dead. Infact, his daughters should know what he was accused of and what he admitted to.. Why? Only then male athletes will change their behaviour. Kobe should be made an example of and his legacy should always be remembered along with this incident (adultry with battery or violent rape - you choose). Unless athletes are made aware that this inhumane beastial behaviour will not be pardoned and forgotten, they will never have any motivation to change. Kobe will not be forgiven and neither will any other athlete who dares to rape. Keep it in your pants and use your damn hands.
Let athletes know that

Who died and made you the sex police? Buzz off. These are adults making adult decisions. Who the hell are you to try to dictate what grown adults can do? Your arrogance is astounding.

Who died? Kobe did. Remember that exceptional athlete who was beloved and who also cheated on his wife and raped a teenager?

We all will take some stance - rape protestors, rape apologists and neutral Switzerland. No one made me the sex police but when did you become the pimp?

You continue to post nonsensical gibberish. Take a minute to collect yourself and come back when you have something coherent to say. You still live in a delusional world where you think you have the right to tell consenting adults how they can have sex.

Except consent was not given.

You are trying to dictate what ALL athletes and groupies should and should not do with their bodies and the manner in which they should do it. You’re also criminalizing sex just because it’s athletes having it. You throw around the R word like your life depended on it. Again, who the hell do you think you are? Groupies know what they are doing and so do athletes. If you have a problem with it, go whine to your priest on Sunday. Again, you arrogance is astounding.

Not all athletes are in a position where they have to defend their rough extramarital sex with a stranger, who later says she did not consent. If you are going to do the deed, you have to be prepared for embarrassing scrutiny. Too bad, so sad.

Then why are you trying to meddle in the sex lives of all athletes? Go collect your thoughts. You make no sense.

People like PP make me question how they navigate reality.

“Oh no, some people like ...kinky sex? Even athletes? You mean, they don’t just do missionary only??? THOSE EVIL BASTARDS!!!”