Superintendent's Recommendation for Richard Montgomery ES #5 Boundaries

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP2 is near Beall and even nearer to the new school. That this section gets "continuity" is only a very short term benefit, if a benefit at all. It doesn't favor RP2 students to stay at RP--it's to balance the FARMs for that neighborhood.

Agreed, but the balancing of FARMS is important factor. One has to weigh the pros/cons of having a school with a highish FARMS rate vs proximity. Since RP2 already goes to RP, nothing changes for them by staying in RP. The purpose of rezoning is not just about proximity, though this is one factor.

-rp parent

They are walkable to the new school, are you kidding me?
That should be the highest priority.

It saves the environment
Saves on costs to busses.
It allieviates traffic.
FARMS rate at RM5 is below 30% with RP2. No reason to move them. None

Parts of RP2 are not walkable to ES#5. It's over 1 mile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1
Ridiculous

I am in a school area that I won't be moved but I find this very disturbing. Walkability should always be #1. I guess the liberals don't care about the environment now, huh?

Being able to walk to school is important, certainly, but why should it be the most important?

+1

rp parent

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree, we should ask the board to pick Superintendent's Recommendation #3 , that will be the best possible outcome.

There are some better and some worse ideas than initial recommendation. You don't have to voice your support for any crazy option. I think Superintendent's Recommendation #3 (Pursuant to Board Adopted Resolution) which came out yesterday does the best job of taking concerns of most stakeholder here. Everyone will be little bit unhappy, but that means it's a good outcome.

Since breaking TB will cause a lots of hardship for students attending TB, this is the best option to balance SES level across other 4 schools without causing too much hardship for anyone. RP2 is described as a walk zone to RM#5, but it's not an easy walk from some parts of RP2. Some parents have raised that concern and asked for transportation if they end up going to RM#5. It may be possible to divide RP2 to make a real walk zone, but frankly speaking this existing option is the best option when you hear all concerns.

RM#5 will have around 37% FARMs rate in regular classes and 29% FARMs rate in entire school in initial super's recommendation. Based on what we are seeing in RP , no one wants to see RP going to 40% FARMs. It means we should also not advocate for any option which puts any other school in similar situation specially if it also makes RP 7% FARMs.

RP2 comes to RP right now. They should continue coming here. MCPS has done many boundaries to balance socioeconomic in many other places. We have many examples of students going to different schools even if they can walk to one school. If as RP parents, we keep insisting on options which puts RP at 7% FARMs, we will start looking like CG3 group.

We need to look for entire cluster here. It's better to take a less than ideal option than reject everything due to having some issues. Superintendent's Recommendation #3 (Pursuant to Board Adopted Resolution) has the east amount of issues. It's not perfect because it's not possible to have a perfect one.

- RP1 parent

+1 RP parent... I emailed the BOE yesterday stating this. I agree having RP FARMS rate at 7% is not right given the cluster FARMS rate, but having it at 40% is even more unfair to RP and TB given that it forces TB to lose Title 1 status AND still have FARMS at 50%.

RP was pulled into this cluster from Wootton to help RM terrible FARMS rates. We have been rezoned twice since then to keep adding FARMS. So now our reward is the neighborhoods now get pulled and yanked the most, to make sure we have FARMS similar to downtown Rockville or in even one option, the absolute highest in the cluster now?? Sorry. Not apologizing for the 7% FARMS. That is higher than any other local school around us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP2 is near Beall and even nearer to the new school. That this section gets "continuity" is only a very short term benefit, if a benefit at all. It doesn't favor RP2 students to stay at RP--it's to balance the FARMs for that neighborhood.

Agreed, but the balancing of FARMS is important factor. One has to weigh the pros/cons of having a school with a highish FARMS rate vs proximity. Since RP2 already goes to RP, nothing changes for them by staying in RP. The purpose of rezoning is not just about proximity, though this is one factor.

-rp parent

They are walkable to the new school, are you kidding me?
That should be the highest priority.

It saves the environment
Saves on costs to busses.
It allieviates traffic.
FARMS rate at RM5 is below 30% with RP2. No reason to move them. None

Parts of RP2 are not walkable to ES#5. It's over 1 mile.

The furthest is .8 miles. Nice try though.

If it wasn't walkable the would have split the walkable to non walkable areas. They don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

+1
Ridiculous

I am in a school area that I won't be moved but I find this very disturbing. Walkability should always be #1. I guess the liberals don't care about the environment now, huh?

Being able to walk to school is important, certainly, but why should it be the most important?

Okay, if it isn't. Let's move RP1 to Twinbrook.
Let's move CG1 to Beall
Let's move Beall 1 to RM5

Why aren't any other walkable zones being looked at to be bussed to another school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

RP was pulled into this cluster from Wootton to help RM terrible FARMS rates. We have been rezoned twice since then to keep adding FARMS. So now our reward is the neighborhoods now get pulled and yanked the most, to make sure we have FARMS similar to downtown Rockville or in even one option, the absolute highest in the cluster now?? Sorry. Not apologizing for the 7% FARMS. That is higher than any other local school around us.

I know that a lot of people believe this, but the media reports at the time say otherwise: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/06/05/busing-ruling-saddens-ritchie-park-parents/cc3b67e6-b596-4247-ba3d-b4c076d37de8/?utm_term=.4678027d0651

Ritchie Park went to Richard Montgomery because Richard Montgomery enrollments were down and projected to drop further, while Wootton was over capacity.

Also, this happened in 1987. To repeat, 1987. What were you doing in 1987? In June 1987, I had just finished my sophomore year of college. And my youngest child started middle school this year, so if you have a child in elementary school, you're probably younger than I am.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RP was pulled into this cluster from Wootton to help RM terrible FARMS rates. We have been rezoned twice since then to keep adding FARMS. So now our reward is the neighborhoods now get pulled and yanked the most, to make sure we have FARMS similar to downtown Rockville or in even one option, the absolute highest in the cluster now?? Sorry. Not apologizing for the 7% FARMS. That is higher than any other local school around us.

I know that a lot of people believe this, but the media reports at the time say otherwise: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/06/05/busing-ruling-saddens-ritchie-park-parents/cc3b67e6-b596-4247-ba3d-b4c076d37de8/?utm_term=.4678027d0651

Ritchie Park went to Richard Montgomery because Richard Montgomery enrollments were down and projected to drop further, while Wootton was over capacity.

Also, this happened in 1987. To repeat, 1987. What were you doing in 1987? In June 1987, I had just finished my sophomore year of college. And my youngest child started middle school this year, so if you have a child in elementary school, you're probably younger than I am.

I was in middle school. Living in cold spring. And some of my friends got pulled out and went to another middle school. I remember it vividly.

[Anonymous]

RP PTA is sending out an email encouraging their parents to support BOE Alt #2 - the option that gives them a FARMS rate of 7%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RP was pulled into this cluster from Wootton to help RM terrible FARMS rates. We have been rezoned twice since then to keep adding FARMS. So now our reward is the neighborhoods now get pulled and yanked the most, to make sure we have FARMS similar to downtown Rockville or in even one option, the absolute highest in the cluster now?? Sorry. Not apologizing for the 7% FARMS. That is higher than any other local school around us.

I know that a lot of people believe this, but the media reports at the time say otherwise: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/06/05/busing-ruling-saddens-ritchie-park-parents/cc3b67e6-b596-4247-ba3d-b4c076d37de8/?utm_term=.4678027d0651

Ritchie Park went to Richard Montgomery because Richard Montgomery enrollments were down and projected to drop further, while Wootton was over capacity.

Also, this happened in 1987. To repeat, 1987. What were you doing in 1987? In June 1987, I had just finished my sophomore year of college. And my youngest child started middle school this year, so if you have a child in elementary school, you're probably younger than I am.

I was in middle school. Living in cold spring. And some of my friends got pulled out and went to another middle school. I remember it vividly.

What bearing should a rezoning decision made in 1987, when you were in middle school, have on the boundary study for RM #5 in 2017?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:RP PTA is sending out an email encouraging their parents to support BOE Alt #2 - the option that gives them a FARMS rate of 7%.

Of course they are. This is why the whole district is going to be bussing all over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RP was pulled into this cluster from Wootton to help RM terrible FARMS rates. We have been rezoned twice since then to keep adding FARMS. So now our reward is the neighborhoods now get pulled and yanked the most, to make sure we have FARMS similar to downtown Rockville or in even one option, the absolute highest in the cluster now?? Sorry. Not apologizing for the 7% FARMS. That is higher than any other local school around us.

I know that a lot of people believe this, but the media reports at the time say otherwise: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1987/06/05/busing-ruling-saddens-ritchie-park-parents/cc3b67e6-b596-4247-ba3d-b4c076d37de8/?utm_term=.4678027d0651

Ritchie Park went to Richard Montgomery because Richard Montgomery enrollments were down and projected to drop further, while Wootton was over capacity.

Also, this happened in 1987. To repeat, 1987. What were you doing in 1987? In June 1987, I had just finished my sophomore year of college. And my youngest child started middle school this year, so if you have a child in elementary school, you're probably younger than I am.

I was in middle school. Living in cold spring. And some of my friends got pulled out and went to another middle school. I remember it vividly.

What bearing should a rezoning decision made in 1987, when you were in middle school, have on the boundary study for RM #5 in 2017?

Nothing. I was answering the question.

[Anonymous]

im watching the board of education meeting right now at this link: http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/boe/meetings/live.aspx


these people dont have a clue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP PTA is sending out an email encouraging their parents to support BOE Alt #2 - the option that gives them a FARMS rate of 7%.

Of course they are. This is why the whole district is going to be bussing all over.

I'm not an RP parent, but what is so bad about that option? TB stays put as they are as they requested, the other schools are around 25% or less FARMs and are under capacity. And no illogical bussing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RP PTA is sending out an email encouraging their parents to support BOE Alt #2 - the option that gives them a FARMS rate of 7%.

Of course they are. This is why the whole district is going to be bussing all over.

I'm not an RP parent, but what is so bad about that option? TB stays put as they are as they requested, the other schools are around 25% or less FARMs and are under capacity. And no illogical bussing.

I was just kidding. Nothing is wrong with it. My kid is at Beall and I actually think the BOE Alt 2 makes a lot of sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:im watching the board of education meeting right now at this link: http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/boe/meetings/live.aspx


these people dont have a clue.

I am also watching it. They are total amateurs who don't even understand the options. Mrs. Docca thought that BOE#3/SI#1 only moved Twinbrook zones all around to other schools. She had NO CONCEPT that both RP4 and B7 from Ritchie Park and Beall, respectively, were being brought into Twinbrook as islands. She is a complete idiot. She only went immediately to a thought that everybody was upset at accepting students from Twinbrook. Horrible person.