REV Soccer Only CHAT, No drama please

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Anonymous wrote:All of the girls who came into the 09’s from either GF, Union or HS teams were not very good. To some, being more athletic looks good on the field, but when they actually have to understand soccer, they fail miserably. The Champions Club teams run circles around them because they are lost on the pitch.

Don't know about the 09's but the 11's had some really good players come out this week. Not sure where they came from? It's open season...

LOL! Clearly posted by a parent of one of those "really good player" 11s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the girls who came into the 09’s from either GF, Union or HS teams were not very good. To some, being more athletic looks good on the field, but when they actually have to understand soccer, they fail miserably. The Champions Club teams run circles around them because they are lost on the pitch.

Don't know about the 09's but the 11's had some really good players come out this week. Not sure where they came from? It's open season...

LOL! Clearly posted by a parent of one of those "really good player" 11s.

"i don't know where they came from but it starts with a G and ends with an R.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the girls who came into the 09’s from either GF, Union or HS teams were not very good. To some, being more athletic looks good on the field, but when they actually have to understand soccer, they fail miserably. The Champions Club teams run circles around them because they are lost on the pitch.

Don't know about the 09's but the 11's had some really good players come out this week. Not sure where they came from? It's open season...

LOL! Clearly posted by a parent of one of those "really good player" 11s.

"i don't know where they came from but it starts with a G and ends with an R.

Sounds like someone is nervous. Good-better-best… and the good aren’t going to cut it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the girls who came into the 09’s from either GF, Union or HS teams were not very good. To some, being more athletic looks good on the field, but when they actually have to understand soccer, they fail miserably. The Champions Club teams run circles around them because they are lost on the pitch.

Don't know about the 09's but the 11's had some really good players come out this week. Not sure where they came from? It's open season...

GFR kids are trying out at several GA teams. Along with kids from other RL teams.

LOL! Clearly posted by a parent of one of those "really good player" 11s.

"i don't know where they came from but it starts with a G and ends with an R.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are one of the GF who took our DD to a VRSc practice for 2009 and already have an offer for next season 2026/27. My question is are those coaches really as bad as people are saying?

What? That's crazy. No one is sending out offers for the 26/27 yet unless your kid is the next Mia Hamm.

That's what you think, but there are many kids across many clubs that already know exactly where they'll be playing next year.... Realistically if you're top 3 or 4 player on a team, you don't think the club has already extended an offer. It's not as if a team is going to be able to bring in say 16 kids better than your current top 3 or 4 players.

Sure but you're telling me some kid who has been playing at GFR Is now considered one of the top 3 or 4 kids on VRSC's 09 team? Find that very hard to believe having a fairly decent knowledge of both of those teams.

Yep, and you haven’t even seen the best ones yet from GFR.

[Anonymous]

I’ve seen what this club thinks is a “really good player” and it’s not what it seems. Kids who can’t use their weak foot at all and still play entire game or freak out mentally when it counts. It doesn’t say much about the coaching staff.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a big part of getting a travel coach job. You can bring players that will pay us instead of their old club? You're in

It's between seasons though, aren't they already committed to and paid for the Spring at GFR?

What usually happens in cases like this is that the club you're moving to will basically let you play the spring for free since you're definitely not getting a refund from the club you're leaving (especially if you're following a coach). And in cases like this, it's also not a carding issue because GA and ECNL use different systems.

Aren't the rosters at VRSC full? Are they going to let GFR girls playing for free take playtime away from VRSC girls paying VRSC to be on the team?

They will take the playing time and use it as a mechanism to force players to quit and go elsewhere. It’s there MO. They do it every year. This year there will be complaints against the club at the DA level. CC is immune from prosecution because of his diplomatic immunity. It’s why he gets away with poor treatment of youth players and survives his termination at other clubs. You already know the ethics at this club are piss poor. Why would we be surprised?

Where’s this immunity coming from?

Hard to believe a foreign government job is too easy to do so as to have time to spend on the soccer fields morning and evenings

[Anonymous]

Cc told us if we come to the 09s now, he will get us exposure at the spring tournaments.

[Anonymous]

I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

Wow! You are really naive.

[Anonymous]

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Wow! You are really naive.

Exactly the type of unhelpful response I was expecting. A simple, "it's always about the player and never about the club/team in determining club success" would've sufficed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

I really appreciate this! I am on the side of 10% club/coaches and 90% on the child (family) themselves. Basically what are they willing to sacrifice to be more successful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have high hopes for this group when it comes to getting some enlightened responses, rooted in experience, to a question about player development and team/club performance. I treat the bulk of what transpires on here as satire, but every once in a while, someone adds something truly valuable. I'm hoping that'll be the case with your responses.

For those with older kids who are serious about their soccer training and potential career beyond the club level, what role do you feel a specific club or team coach has made (or could make) in the tactical, skill, and physical development of your player, or an entire team for that matter, outside of the individual/personal/group/non-team training that most do?. In other words, in the NoVA area, have any of the clubs, GA or ECNL, actually proven that they can develop their players, beginning at a young age, to be extremely competitive throughout their pre-college career? Or does a club just look like they're really good at developing talent by performing well in a given year because a large enough group of talented kids leave other clubs and all end up at the same place for a given reason, e.g. their particular age group performed well at said new club so they think it's a great club, or one of the coaches has great college relationships so they go there because they think it'll increase their likelihood of getting recruited, or they want GA vs ECNL or vice versa?

CC is both heavily praised and criticized depending on someone's individual experience. When BP was at FCV, he had a lot of relationships so talented girls went there (don't know if they were always the best in their age group or not) and CC gets the "training" credit of having graduated a lot of talented kids. Were they talented before they got there and he was just the lucky recipient of kids who wanted to leverage BP's relationships, or is he a proven entity when it comes to team-level player development and, if he's not, are any of the coaches or clubs in the NoVA area worthy of such a reputation?

- actual Rev parent

It's a blurry picture and there are plenty of examples in all directions. CC was at FCV for years before BP arrived. CC gets training credit for the girls who were developed pre-BP, and many of the players BP took credit for right after he arrived were developed by CC. They both benefited from each other and claim/deserve some of the credit. They were also both lucky recipients of talented kids. FCV was always known as the place that recruited talented players from other clubs. CC is way more knowledgable about soccer and a better teacher, BP is better at promotion, recruiting players, and has more connections. There is no single best coach/club for a player. It depends on the situation. Is the player raw and needs a lot of soccer development? Are they good at promoting themselves? Do they have a private soccer trainer and work on their own? Are they self motivated? How is their mindset? If a player is talented enough they would have recruiting success at most any ECNL or GA club because they are all going to the same showcases events. Marketing yourself by contacting coaches ahead of events with film and then *standing out* on the pitch at these events is still the recruiting formula.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are one of the GF who took our DD to a VRSc practice for 2009 and already have an offer for next season 2026/27. My question is are those coaches really as bad as people are saying?

What? That's crazy. No one is sending out offers for the 26/27 yet unless your kid is the next Mia Hamm.

That's what you think, but there are many kids across many clubs that already know exactly where they'll be playing next year.... Realistically if you're top 3 or 4 player on a team, you don't think the club has already extended an offer. It's not as if a team is going to be able to bring in say 16 kids better than your current top 3 or 4 players.

Sure but you're telling me some kid who has been playing at GFR Is now considered one of the top 3 or 4 kids on VRSC's 09 team? Find that very hard to believe having a fairly decent knowledge of both of those teams.

The top 3 or 4 comment was ridiculous but if you want to get a jump on other players, ID sessions are going on now for next season. All clubs will have players leave so if they can secure players for next season now, they will. All clubs also give preference to external players because its new money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are one of the GF who took our DD to a VRSc practice for 2009 and already have an offer for next season 2026/27. My question is are those coaches really as bad as people are saying?

What? That's crazy. No one is sending out offers for the 26/27 yet unless your kid is the next Mia Hamm.

That's what you think, but there are many kids across many clubs that already know exactly where they'll be playing next year.... Realistically if you're top 3 or 4 player on a team, you don't think the club has already extended an offer. It's not as if a team is going to be able to bring in say 16 kids better than your current top 3 or 4 players.

Sure but you're telling me some kid who has been playing at GFR Is now considered one of the top 3 or 4 kids on VRSC's 09 team? Find that very hard to believe having a fairly decent knowledge of both of those teams.

Yep, and you haven’t even seen the best ones yet from GFR.

Actually, I have. The best ones left years ago. A couple good players still there but they won’t beat out the current players for starting positions on a team with 22 on the roster already