Gen Xers - Do you find Taylor Swift’s music bland?

[Anonymous]

I think that is the problem now. She is oversaturated. Music, sports, politics etc. Everything is Taylor Swift this or that. Her PR machine works overtime to get her name and face into every conversation that is making the news and then her fans multiply it all online. I would be happy to never hear about her again. Not because I have anything about her personally but I like to be able to go online without seeing Taylor Swift.

As for those who like her music - I get having a few songs on your playlist you like but the claims she is the best musician / lyricist / guitarist of all time and paying thousands to fly to see her or not understanding how anyone couldn't not like her music or any of the claims that make her out to be some super human - that is overboard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that is the problem now. She is oversaturated. Music, sports, politics etc. Everything is Taylor Swift this or that. Her PR machine works overtime to get her name and face into every conversation that is making the news and then her fans multiply it all online. I would be happy to never hear about her again. Not because I have anything about her personally but I like to be able to go online without seeing Taylor Swift.

As for those who like her music - I get having a few songs on your playlist you like but the claims she is the best musician / lyricist / guitarist of all time and paying thousands to fly to see her or not understanding how anyone couldn't not like her music or any of the claims that make her out to be some super human - that is overboard.

^^^ talking about unhinged.

Girl, go for a walk.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a post from a 40 year old woman I know:

Someone commented “This is my Roman Empire,” and I’m sure I couldn’t have said it better myself.

Because of Taylor Swift:

-I get GOOD NEWS in my algorithm multiple times a day

-Food banks across the country are able to feed so many more people - a single donation of hers fed over 500,000 every month in California

-Her fans are becoming more generous - with those same food banks reporting increased donations

-A new, more humane standard for pay has been established

-Millions of girls and women feel more confident, safer, and inspired

-Countless people across the country have received support during tragic times. Just google it. It’s unbelievable

-An additional 35,000 Americans are now registered to vote, taking part in critical act of democracy

If you have anything negative to say about Taylor Swift (please keep it off my page) - I’m sorry you feel that way - truly - because her impact has been one of incredible positivity with impact that most of us could only dream of.

I’m grateful that I get to live during this time and witness this type of leadership - LOVE in action. 💗

You don’t think this is a tad unhinged?

What is unhinged is that so many people are saying negative things about TS that someone feels compelled to respond.

It's "unhinged" for some percentage of people in the world to express negative opinions about a billionaire pop star? Or is that actually just normal and predictable?

I think it's "unhinged" that a former president does, and that NFL fans are so incensed she goes to her boyfriend's games but don't care about every other girlfriend who goes, or that she has stalkers, and bomb threats and that a whole wing of a political party is posting about her... and grown as women on DCUM have created multiple threads to trash her... yea I think it's "unhinged".

Conflating Donald Trump saying he hates Taylor Swift because she endorsed Harris for president with someone saying "I have tried to like Taylor Swift's music but it just sounds the same and bland to me" is nuts though.

Donald Trump sucks and the people hating on Swift because of her political views suck. First because you have to be a nutjob to like Trump at this point and second because caring about the politics of a pop star is a waste of time -- there are pop stars with weird conservative views I don't like but I don't lose sleep over it.

But that's separate from a discussion of whether people like her music or her public image. You can be a Harris-voting pro-immigrant pro-LGBTQ pro-choice liberal and still not like Swift's music and that doesn't make you unhinged. It just means you don't like Swift's music and that's allowed. I personally think it's also okay to be annoyed by her presence at football games -- I always roll my eyes about the fixation on celebrities at sporting events and it annoyed me when I was watching the US Open and they kept cutting to like Seth Rogan and Tina Fey in the stands because who cares. It's not personal to the celeb I just think that fixation is silly. I like watching football and don't want to see an ad for Taylor Swift in the middle of game coverage because that's not why I tune in. I'm actually tired of the Kelce brothers as well -- the whole lot of them are overexposed and the fact that Jason still gets tons of coverage despite having retired is annoying. At least when Travis is covered it's because he's actually playing football (though then it will be some puff piece about him performing with Taylor at a concert in the off season and just... sigh. I am tired of all the Swift-Kelce stuff in the NFL. Sorrynotsorry. It was a little cute and funny at first but the fatigue is setting in for me.

No that’s not what this part of the thread is talking about we are talking about unhinged posts about Taylor. Trumps was unhinged. The NFL haters are unhinged … she doesn’t film or post it, the NFL does and they have always panned to family, but you don’t like this one person they pan too.

It’s unhinged to choose 1 over exposed person to hate. There are overexposed people year to year to year to year… you chose this one to hate.

Uh no. Look at the previous posts in this subthread.

Someone posted something a 40 year old Taylor Swift fan posted on her social media about how since Taylor brings her joy she doesn't want to hear anything negative about her and said "You don't think this is a tad unhinged?"

And we were discussing whether it is "unhinged" to be this obsessed with Swift that you feel the need to announce to people over social media that you cannot tolerate any negative opinions of her ever. Then someone else raised Donald Trump but no one was talking about him. Of course Trump's posts about Swift are unhinged -- he is mentally ill. Literally anything he says on any subject has a high likelihood of being unhinged. But this thread is not about him or about maga people who hate Taylor because she endorsed Harris. It's about people who find her music bland. And how that opinion (a mild and impersonal opinion about musical taste) is somehow not allowed because Swift fans will not allow you to say "I just don't really like her music).

This thread is full of people (none of them Donald Trump and none of them saying they hate Swift and none of them even really addressing her political positions) talking about their response to her music and discussing how it doesn't really speak to them or they don't like the sound or it all sounds the same to them. And over and over again these opinions are not permitted by Swifties who have descended on the thread (for reasons I don't understand) to explain that if you don't like Taylor Swift it must be because you have not listened to enough of her music or you aren't trying hard enough or maybe you're just stupid or pretentious or a conservative troll? Because it can't possibly be that you can arrive at the subjective opinion that her music isn't very good. That's not allowed. She's perfect. It must be something else. What can it be!? If we yell at you enough then eventually you will like Taylor Swift like you are supposed to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ugh I can’t wait until I don’t have to see her everywhere.

+1. She's ruining any NFL game that she attends. with her stupid posing and preening on the plays. She needs to study more, thought. Last week she celebrated a play that was actually a penalty for her lover's team. We were cracking up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that is the problem now. She is oversaturated. Music, sports, politics etc. Everything is Taylor Swift this or that. Her PR machine works overtime to get her name and face into every conversation that is making the news and then her fans multiply it all online. I would be happy to never hear about her again. Not because I have anything about her personally but I like to be able to go online without seeing Taylor Swift.

As for those who like her music - I get having a few songs on your playlist you like but the claims she is the best musician / lyricist / guitarist of all time and paying thousands to fly to see her or not understanding how anyone couldn't not like her music or any of the claims that make her out to be some super human - that is overboard.

Yes anyone claiming Taylor Swift is one of the best musicians or guitarists of all time is nuts. You can like her music and also understand she's not a great musician (even if she's a skilled lyricist). A major reason her music sounds the way it does is because she is not a virtuosic musician and is not capable of playing complicated chord progressions on guitar or piano but her music is "singer-songwriter" by genre which kind of requires self-accompaniment. The reason many of her songs sound more "stripped down" when she plays them on tour is specifically because they have to strip them down in order for her to play them live.

This is the whole thread right here. For some people (me) the fact that her lyrics are interesting and complex is not enough because the music itself is too simple and similar. I like lyrics but I can't live on just lyrics. The fact that she also has only an okay voice is also problematic for me -- there are other singer songwriters who use simple chord progressions and melodies BUT they have really amazing voices that do a lot of the work. Taylor is not a great musician or vocalist. It's all about the lyrics. This is not an insult! People also say this about Bob freaking Dylan. I prefer Dylan's lyrics to Swift's though because I find the topics he has written songs about to be more relevant and relatable to me. But even with Dylan there are entire albums where I'm like "nope" because again he's not a great guitarist or vocalist and it's all about the lyrics. So if the lyrics aren't there then it doesn't work for me. Dylan wound up winning a nobel prize for literature so we'll see where Swift goes.

The frustrating thing is that you express the above opinion and then all the swifties say no actually she's an amazing musician and vocalist and her songs are very complex and all different and it's just weird because it would be totally okay to concede the point -- instrumentation and arrangement and singing are not her strong points -- but as with Dylan argue that the content of her lyrics are so meaningful and well composed that it doesn't matter. That's a perfectly reasonable counter.

But if you sit there and try to tell me that Taylor Swift is one of the top guitarists of the 21st century or that her songwriting (not lyrics but "songwriting" which is technically not even what she does because of how she works with collaborators) is on par with people who WERE amazing musicians and songwriters I'm going to get annnoyed because that's an ignorant-a$$ take based on not having listened to or paid attention to music.

[Anonymous]

I do think it's weird AF for any adult to like her music.

[Anonymous]

You know what’s overexposed is Men’s Sport.

You can’t go anywhere without seeing it. Evening news, thanksgiving day, grab a drink and they can’t even have a bar with out men’s sports on, I was at a wedding and the Ohio/Michigan game was on, go to grocery store jerseys everywhere, like can’t you wear something other than a shirt announcing your sports team?

OVEREXPOSED!

[Anonymous]

Speaking of fans on the sidelines and overexposed people.

Matthew friggin' McConaughey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Speaking of fans on the sidelines and overexposed people.

Matthew friggin' McConaughey.

Kevin Hart

What do I have to do to stop that madness

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Speaking of fans on the sidelines and overexposed people.

Matthew friggin' McConaughey.

Snoop Dogg is everywhere all the time now. Haven’t seen Matthew McConaughey in a long time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know what’s overexposed is Men’s Sport.

You can’t go anywhere without seeing it. Evening news, thanksgiving day, grab a drink and they can’t even have a bar with out men’s sports on, I was at a wedding and the Ohio/Michigan game was on, go to grocery store jerseys everywhere, like can’t you wear something other than a shirt announcing your sports team?

OVEREXPOSED!

Yet the patron saint of sweater anthems and psycho girlfriend bop has to show up and make the men's sport ALL ABOUT HER. She's an egomaniac.

[Anonymous]

I actually agree that a lot of men's pro sports are pushed down people's throats. I love womens tennis and since Serena retiring no one ever talks about it anymore which is a bummer. I would find it ridiculous if I attended a wedding and they were playing a college football game. I find Tom Brady and Peyton manning incredibly overexposed especially considering they don't even play anymore. Agree that Snoop Dog is everywhere for no reason.

And also Taylor Swift is way too overexposed and I am tired of seeing her face everywhere and hearing her songs all the time and being told endlessly how great she is when I don't think she's that great. I am especially fatigued with hearing about her love life. I am a Harris voter and I was tired of hearing about her endorsement of Harris within 24 hours of it happening because I feel like it stomped all over what should have been coverage of Harris's stellar debate performance (and Donald Trump falling apart on national television). I hear about her about 1000x more often then I hear about any of the other things I just mentioned that I'm also tired of hearing about.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what’s overexposed is Men’s Sport.

You can’t go anywhere without seeing it. Evening news, thanksgiving day, grab a drink and they can’t even have a bar with out men’s sports on, I was at a wedding and the Ohio/Michigan game was on, go to grocery store jerseys everywhere, like can’t you wear something other than a shirt announcing your sports team?

OVEREXPOSED!

Yet the patron saint of sweater anthems and psycho girlfriend bop has to show up and make the men's sport ALL ABOUT HER. She's an egomaniac.

I found a Michigan fan!

Get a life!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually agree that a lot of men's pro sports are pushed down people's throats. I love womens tennis and since Serena retiring no one ever talks about it anymore which is a bummer. I would find it ridiculous if I attended a wedding and they were playing a college football game. I find Tom Brady and Peyton manning incredibly overexposed especially considering they don't even play anymore. Agree that Snoop Dog is everywhere for no reason.

And also Taylor Swift is way too overexposed and I am tired of seeing her face everywhere and hearing her songs all the time and being told endlessly how great she is when I don't think she's that great. I am especially fatigued with hearing about her love life. I am a Harris voter and I was tired of hearing about her endorsement of Harris within 24 hours of it happening because I feel like it stomped all over what should have been coverage of Harris's stellar debate performance (and Donald Trump falling apart on national television). I hear about her about 1000x more often then I hear about any of the other things I just mentioned that I'm also tired of hearing about.

I missed the other threads hating these other overexposed entertainments… can you link them for me I can’t imagine how I missed them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking of fans on the sidelines and overexposed people.

Matthew friggin' McConaughey.

Snoop Dogg is everywhere all the time now. Haven’t seen Matthew McConaughey in a long time.

Yes I guess it is because I live in Austin but he still has been in some random places this year nationally/sports/politically.