Official Kamala Harris VP Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Who would be better - Beshear (KY) or Cooper (NC)?

Neither.

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I think all of her VP choices being vetted (Shapiro, Walz, Beshear, Cooper, Buttigieg, Kelley, etc.) are all strong in different ways.

Some people are overly hung up on their minority status (gay, Jewish, etc.) as the only reason. I think their full personal story, state, and communication style matters more.

For example, everyone counts out Buttigieg because of anti-gay discrimination. But many independents relate to him. He's a veteran (he served in Afghanistan), a father and family man, Christian man of faith with lots of integrity and character. He was very effective in Fox town halls back in 2019 when he was running for Pres and many independents and a few conservatives really adored him. He's also an excellent communicator.

Personally, I don't think she can go wrong with any of them. Each could be an asset to the ticket and offer some good things.

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It will be Shapiro’s if he wants it. Swing state governor, very moderate. Kamala needs a white man in order to not completely hemmorage white men to Trump.

Republicans will go full out in painting a black woman as antisemitic/anti-Israel. Shapiro neutralizes that entire line of attack, plus will keep Jewish donors engaged/excited.

Nah. Shapiro would suck a lot of the energy out of the base, particularly women and youth.

His attempts to ban state workers from participating in protests against Israeli policies were a First Amendment violation, and demonstrate a lack of understanding regarding how Americans are responding to the brutal attacks on Gazan civilians.

His attempts to transfer public funds to private religious schools through school vouchers are a repudiation of public school parents, who make up a majority of Democratic voters.

Finally, hiring a known sexual harasser to his team shows that he prioritizes political experience over the safety of young women on his team.

Harris must know how toxic he is, and she can't win without women and young people.

Exactly. These are the reasons he's not a good pick.

I do wonder if there's a bit of disagreement between the party as to who should get the VP nod seems like we're getting a lot of choices thrown out to the public

No, the reason for the delay is that the Harris team is working feverishly to vet these candidates. They want to make sure that there are no hidden bombs in their past. With the ones that were DAs and prosecutors, they have to sift through their legal career and find all the cases that these prosecutors tried and make sure that there aren't any embarassing issues. So, work history, personal history, family history, etc. It takes a lot of man-hours to conduct these background checks. Normally they have weeks to do these background checks. They start early and they work hard. Now they have days. I'm guessing they have a soft-deadline for next Wednesday (July 31) to try and hone in on the best candidate.

At this point, she has 2-3 good options and they are trying to find the one with the least background issues.

I mean these candidates didn't materialize out of nowhere just a week ago or even a month ago after the ill fated debate. They have been vetted . They have been on the list if you will. I don't think there's complete party agreement on who to go with. While none of the names are Vance level bad who will cause votes to be lost+ maybe Shapiro) it's a question of who will add the most votes and which demographic to target to grab votes
They are testing public reaction.

They've been vetted before, but not to the degree that a POTUS or VPOTUS candidate is going to need done. The level of scrutiny that they will come under as a national candidate with every media outlet putting their entire lives under a microscope is unlike anything they've been treated to even as candidates for governor, Senate, etc. For instance, governors and Senators may or may not have their entire work career hyperanalyzed, but you can bet that there are going to b journalists, or lobbyists or political bloggers that will dig through every case that these prosecutors have ever tried. The scale of interest in a (vice)presidential candidate is far higher than even a governor, Senator or Congressman.

Look at what's happened to Vance in the last week. He was vetted and the media is still finding things on him that the vetting team missed. It is very hard to analyze a person's full life even in weeks and Harris' teams is going do it in days. They are skipping anything that has already been analyzed by these people in the past. They are digging deep to try to find anything that might come up. Everyone typically has something that may not be ideal for them. The Harris team just needs to know about things and have an answer crafted in case anyone finds anything.

I don't think the vetting team missed things on Vance I think they probably didn't bother to do much research at all or didn't think people would care. Or more likely Trump with him against their advice.

When it comes to Harris VP pick I stand firm and well have to agree to disagree that it's not an issue of vetting but coming to agreement on whose best
Not just for this election but to set up for future campaigns.

+1 Trump’s team is rather famously terrible at vetting.

He really isn’t. Pence gave him
the religious voters who perhaps were leery of Trumps motivations. He’s also from Ohio-a state that no modern Republican has ever lost in an election.

I think he only chose Vance because he’s from Ohio as well.

Pence was from Indiana, a state Trump was definitely going to win in 2016. Vance is from Ohio, a state that Trump is definitely going to hold in 2024.

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Anonymous wrote:Who would be better - Beshear (KY) or Cooper (NC)?

Beshear, because he’s younger, and he can actually leave his state to campaign nationwide without leaving it in the hands of a crazed lunatic.

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Looks like Shapiro is out of running for his handling of sexual harassment in the workplace, ironically.

Hearing more talk about Mayor Pete as a potential VP.

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The Harris campaign co-opted Walz’s “they’re weird” messaging because it’s damn effective. He knows how to speak to regular people.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/26/trump-vance-weird-00171470

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Shapiro is out of running for his handling of sexual harassment in the workplace, ironically.

Hearing more talk about Mayor Pete as a potential VP.

No one is talking about Mayor Pete as a potential VP. He's a very talented politician with a bright future, but Indiana is not in play, and a Biden cabinet secretary is not a big add to the ticket. If he's being vetted, it's out of politeness.

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Anonymous wrote:Who would be better - Beshear (KY) or Cooper (NC)?

Neither.

+1 Mark Kelly. Kamala needs the sunbelt states to win. And he helps her on her vulnerabilities on border issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Who would be better - Beshear (KY) or Cooper (NC)?

Neither.

+1 Mark Kelly. Kamala needs the sunbelt states to win. And he helps her on her vulnerabilities on border issues.

He’s great in many ways but unions don’t like him and putting his seat in play is too risky.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Shapiro is out of running for his handling of sexual harassment in the workplace, ironically.

Hearing more talk about Mayor Pete as a potential VP.

No one is talking about Mayor Pete as a potential VP. He's a very talented politician with a bright future, but Indiana is not in play, and a Biden cabinet secretary is not a big add to the ticket. If he's being vetted, it's out of politeness.

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Anonymous wrote:The Harris campaign co-opted Walz’s “they’re weird” messaging because it’s damn effective. He knows how to speak to regular people.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/26/trump-vance-weird-00171470

This is so important. I really like him.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Shapiro is out of running for his handling of sexual harassment in the workplace, ironically.

Hearing more talk about Mayor Pete as a potential VP.

An AG or GC is always going to have baggage when it comes to work place settlement agreements, etc. They settle - that’s what they do. The accused have a wide array of due process and privacy rights.

He also fully executed on the Catholic Church investigation in PA, which had been stymied by both Dems and Republicans with loyalty to the Church. It took a Jewish AG to shine on the Church. Eternally grateful to Shapiro for that.

I hope he’s not out of the running.

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Anonymous wrote:The Harris campaign co-opted Walz’s “they’re weird” messaging because it’s damn effective. He knows how to speak to regular people.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/26/trump-vance-weird-00171470

This is so important. I really like him.

I like him too; he’s my governor. I would prefer to keep him but if he did get the VP nod and they win, Minnesota would have Governor Flanagan, and she would be the first Native American (White Earth Ojibwe) governor. Pretty neat.

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Anonymous wrote:The Harris campaign co-opted Walz’s “they’re weird” messaging because it’s damn effective. He knows how to speak to regular people.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/26/trump-vance-weird-00171470

This is so important. I really like him.

I like him too; he’s my governor. I would prefer to keep him but if he did get the VP nod and they win, Minnesota would have Governor Flanagan, and she would be the first Native American (White Earth Ojibwe) governor. Pretty neat.

That’s very cool. I’ve been a little worried he looks a good bit older than he actually is, but maybe funny plainspoken grandpa type would nicely balance the ticket.

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When are they going to announce? I feel like a kid on Christmas.