Why are people more sympathetic to Lindsay Clancy than Andrea Yates? (Child death mentioned)

[Anonymous]

Some of these responses are strait ignorance. What are you supposed to learn? Maybe more awareness of post partum depression? Post- partum psychosis? You should be grateful that you never had to experience this. It is a tragedy all around, for the entire family. The husband did not start the go fund me. I wouldn’t be surprised if he used the money to bring more awareness to PPP,PPD. I’m sure money is the last thing on his mind after he has lost his 3 children and the woman he married. Back off people, don’t put ignorant comments out there, just be thankful you’re not in this position.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any history of those drugs making homicidal? Suicidal yes, but I don’t think it makes one homicidal. She wasn’t driving drunk and accidentally killed them. She intentionally strangled them (which takes a minute or two each) one at a time.

Yes there is a link between SSRIs and aggressive and even homicidal thoughts and actions. This piece discusses how the black box warnings for this are included in some countries but not in the USA where Pharma lobbied the FDA and kept the warnings off - the only warning is increased suicidality in young people which is another known side effect of some SSRIs.

I believe Zoloft in particular is linked to the Aurora Colorado movie theater mass shooter and also to Phil Hartmann’s wife who murdered him and then took her own life. I’m sure there are other cases.

The biggest scam Pharma ever pulled was convincing millions of Americans that SSRIs and SNRIs were largely harmless. Homicidality is an extremely rare side effect but many of the more common side effects can add up to significant negative impacts on health over time and we really should be prescribing the natural remedies for depression before we ever hand out these pills like candy.

https://nypost.com/2017/07/26/common-antidepressants-linked-to-at-least-28-murders/

This article also says:
Professor Carmine Pariante, from the King’s College London’s Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Neuroscience, said: “There is no good evidence that antidepressants increase the risk of violent behavior, and the extremely rare cases that are cited in support of this theory could be explained by chance.”

“Antidepressants are prescribed relatively widely, and so by chance, someone on antidepressants will commit a violent act.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of these responses are strait ignorance. What are you supposed to learn? Maybe more awareness of post partum depression? Post- partum psychosis? You should be grateful that you never had to experience this. It is a tragedy all around, for the entire family. The husband did not start the go fund me. I wouldn’t be surprised if he used the money to bring more awareness to PPP,PPD. I’m sure money is the last thing on his mind after he has lost his 3 children and the woman he married. Back off people, don’t put ignorant comments out there, just be thankful you’re not in this position.

Look the lady murdered her 3 kids. No one cares if she had a mental problem. Nothing is an excuse for strangling your kids and hanging them.

[Anonymous]

Reddit linked Lindsay with her MIL, also a l&d nurse in a video for the hospital they worked at together.

They also posted a short version of the 911 call the full is on the Facebook discussion page.

The details provided on Reddit are very disturbing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reddit linked Lindsay with her MIL, also a l&d nurse in a video for the hospital they worked at together.

They also posted a short version of the 911 call the full is on the Facebook discussion page.

The details provided on Reddit are very disturbing.

Which FB group - I see “Lindsay Clancy Case - Discussion Group” and also “Lindsay Clancy: Trial Case Discussion”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just want to weigh in that as a person with childhood trauma who has battled refractory depression for over 30 years and episodes of suicidal ideation with plan and attempt, I have never been put on so many meds over such a short period of time. I’ve been put on lots of different meds over the decades but never that many that quickly. It doesn’t seem like the appropriate standard of care to me.

Same and 100%. Heavily medicated is 5-7 drugs, not 12 or 15.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live nearby and had severe PPD, I was suicidal. I also attended a 5 day a week outpatient program. I'm in shock. But for the grace of God

There are only two kinds of people in the US. People who have had experience with serious mental health problems and come away saying this, and people who have had experience with serious mental health problems and come away feeling like they got seated as judges while they were getting treatment.

PP, hope you are doing better. A lot of other people here ought to take a hard look in the mirror.

[Anonymous]

The husband seems like a weirdo and creep. Who loses their whole family under horrific circumstances and puts out a statement 3 days later about how he’s going to move on with his gfm $ and how he’s forgiven his wife? I guess the money was worth it? The statement was personal enough that he would have probably provided all the information and approved it even if he didn’t write all of it.

[Anonymous]

I do not blame the husband. This woman needs to go to prison forever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.patriotledger.com/story/news/2023/02/03/duxburys-lindsay-clancy-to-appear-via-video-in-plymouth-court-tuesday/69870830007/

According to her new lawyer, she was on a dozen medications at the time of the incident and the husband had told doctors she was “turning into a zombie.” You all still think he should have gone out?

Post partum depression leading to psychotic symptoms and homicide/suicide is exceedingly rare. Nobody ever thinks in advance it will be them or their loved one. The Andrea Yates case was so extreme precisely because she had suffered from it previously, was hospitalized repeatedly and warned to never have another pregnancy. The red flags were abundant that she would kill her children and Rusty should really have been prosecuted and imprisoned for the child endangering he engaged in by leaving Andrea alone with their kids.

But even if he didn't know she would kill them, he thought it was cool to leave them with a "zombie" (his words)? We are talking about a crawling baby and a 3 year old boy, in addition to the 5 year old daughter. Do you remember what its like to have a 3 year old?

And all for some stupid takeout.

He didn't kill his children by getting takeout.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, society is much more aware of and sympathetic to mental illness in general.
If I remember correctly, people were initially horrified by the Yates case because there were so many children and her act seemed so calm and deliberate. Once the true circumstances were revealed, there was a lot more sympathy for her.

I think it’s more horror and pity than sympathy. Try as they might, no one actually can understand this sort of thing. People just choose their words more carefully now.

AYFKMWT? I have nothing but sympathy for Yates. Basically forced to have children by her ____bag husband despite severe PPD, and IIRC, living in pretty sad circumstances. Those kids’ deaths were on her husband, not her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do not blame the husband. This woman needs to go to prison forever.

No, but knowing what we know about the meds she was on I don’t think any reasonable person would have acted the same. Maybe some of their friends who gave to the GFM could have picked up dinner and meds for them. Or her parents could have come to help. Or he could have taken FMLA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do not blame the husband. This woman needs to go to prison forever.

No, but knowing what we know about the meds she was on I don’t think any reasonable person would have acted the same. Maybe some of their friends who gave to the GFM could have picked up dinner and meds for them. Or her parents could have come to help. Or he could have taken FMLA.

Hindsight is 20/20. She doesn’t deserve freedom.

[Anonymous]

Hindsight is 20/20. She doesn’t deserve freedom.

Agreed. Nonetheless, I feel empathy for her because her illness and the medication to no doubt played a role in the murders.

[Anonymous]

It doesn't matter. She was seven months postpartum. Not a few weeks