New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s actually kind of crazy when you think about how much weight people put into the Rankings App. It’s not sanctioned by any governing body, there’s no real oversight, and no official authority behind it in any capacity. At the end of the day, it was created by a soccer dad who figured out how to turn rankings into a business.

Yet clubs, parents, and even some coaches treat it like it’s the official measure of team quality. The youth soccer ecosystem has gotten to a point where an unofficial algorithm can shape perception more than actual development, coaching, or long-term player growth.

You have no idea how bad it was before the ranking app. It was all perception and everything was for sale. Even worse than it is now.

The ranking app is consistent and you cant pay for placement.

Yes, but it remains flawed because top teams often never play each other anymore. For example, I know where a 3rd ranked team in a state -- which rarely loses or ties and runs up the score -- but played mostly against USYS/ECRL -- recently lost to a lower-ranked but still top 10 GA team, whose record wasn't great because they played top-tier GA competition.

[Anonymous]

Also, a flaw in the matrix is WHEN teams from these top leagues actually play each other it's never recorded, because it's in showcases OR as friendlies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, a flaw in the matrix is WHEN teams from these top leagues actually play each other it's never recorded, because it's in showcases OR as friendlies.

all showcases are recorded. they have direct links to everything on gotsport etc. if the showcase has a public website with the scores recorded, they get posted

why would you include friendlies?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some ECNL parents are obsessed with GA. Nobody cares about GA or ECNL. Just help your DD get recruited and focus more instead of wasting time here debating GA vs ECNL. FYI, College coaches don’t care either. There are recruitable and non recruitable players in both leagues. So why bother comparing.

lions aren't concerned with sheep. but if it makes you feel better

Most parents don’t even know about the GA. We don’t try and put down GA it’s just is what it is….

correct. I only found out about ga a few years ago when our local rec team went to ga. after research I realized it was a good fit for them

Sick burn, GA = Rec

[Anonymous]

ECNL just posted their full list of promotions and new clubs on Instagram. I assume this is all the announcements in one.
Only four new NL girls clubs, significantly more on the boys side

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ECNL just posted their full list of promotions and new clubs on Instagram. I assume this is all the announcements in one.
Only four new NL girls clubs, significantly more on the boys side

Dilution

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL just posted their full list of promotions and new clubs on Instagram. I assume this is all the announcements in one.
Only four new NL girls clubs, significantly more on the boys side

Dilution

take a moment and compare the rankings of the girls 4 ECNL new members vs the new ga...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL just posted their full list of promotions and new clubs on Instagram. I assume this is all the announcements in one.
Only four new NL girls clubs, significantly more on the boys side

Dilution

take a moment and compare the rankings of the girls 4 ECNL new members vs the new ga...

Double dilution

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL just posted their full list of promotions and new clubs on Instagram. I assume this is all the announcements in one.
Only four new NL girls clubs, significantly more on the boys side

Dilution

take a moment and compare the rankings of the girls 4 ECNL new members vs the new ga...

Double dilution

ga parents in panic mode!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL just posted their full list of promotions and new clubs on Instagram. I assume this is all the announcements in one.
Only four new NL girls clubs, significantly more on the boys side

Dilution

take a moment and compare the rankings of the girls 4 ECNL new members vs the new ga...

Double dilution

ga parents in panic mode!!!

The new clubs lists arent very good. Your ecnl hat isnt on straight. Not sure I'd call this one a win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, a flaw in the matrix is WHEN teams from these top leagues actually play each other it's never recorded, because it's in showcases OR as friendlies.

all showcases are recorded. they have direct links to everything on gotsport etc. if the showcase has a public website with the scores recorded, they get posted

why would you include friendlies?

Not the local regional ones. Friendlies are the only times these different leagues will play each other. And of the several I've seen, both sides are playing to win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL just posted their full list of promotions and new clubs on Instagram. I assume this is all the announcements in one.
Only four new NL girls clubs, significantly more on the boys side

Dilution

take a moment and compare the rankings of the girls 4 ECNL new members vs the new ga...

Double dilution

ga parents in panic mode!!!

Some of the clubs choosing GA right now aren’t making reactionary moves at all. Honestly, a lot of them seem to be thinking long term.

These are clubs in strong soccer markets, good locations, and areas where there’s still a lot of room for growth. They’re stable clubs that believe they can afford to be patient instead of chasing whatever feels biggest at the moment. Not every club thinks they need an immediate win in year one.

A lot of the online discussion around ECNL vs GA acts like everything has to be decided overnight, but the girls landscape is still changing quite a bit. College roster changes, recruiting, travel costs, player movement, and development priorities are all shifting. Some clubs clearly believe GA gives them flexibility and upside long term, especially if they’re already in a strong position locally.

If a club is in a desirable area with strong player numbers and good infrastructure, they can wait a year or two and see how things continue to evolve. That doesn’t mean ECNL isn’t strong, because it obviously is, but I think some people underestimate how much these decisions are based on future positioning instead of short-term perception.

[Anonymous]

lol nobody from the mid-Atlantic conference has earned any right to be cheering on the alleged success of the ECNL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL just posted their full list of promotions and new clubs on Instagram. I assume this is all the announcements in one.
Only four new NL girls clubs, significantly more on the boys side

Dilution

take a moment and compare the rankings of the girls 4 ECNL new members vs the new ga...

Double dilution

ga parents in panic mode!!!

Some of the clubs choosing GA right now aren’t making reactionary moves at all. Honestly, a lot of them seem to be thinking long term.

These are clubs in strong soccer markets, good locations, and areas where there’s still a lot of room for growth. They’re stable clubs that believe they can afford to be patient instead of chasing whatever feels biggest at the moment. Not every club thinks they need an immediate win in year one.

A lot of the online discussion around ECNL vs GA acts like everything has to be decided overnight, but the girls landscape is still changing quite a bit. College roster changes, recruiting, travel costs, player movement, and development priorities are all shifting. Some clubs clearly believe GA gives them flexibility and upside long term, especially if they’re already in a strong position locally.

If a club is in a desirable area with strong player numbers and good infrastructure, they can wait a year or two and see how things continue to evolve. That doesn’t mean ECNL isn’t strong, because it obviously is, but I think some people underestimate how much these decisions are based on future positioning instead of short-term perception.

it is 100% reactionary. GA is trying to scoop up quantity in markets, quality be damned. clubs getting into ga gives them the ability to sell the "illusion" to parents/kids or getting recruited to college and the ability for the clubs to charge more by playing in the so called "elite" second league ga.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL just posted their full list of promotions and new clubs on Instagram. I assume this is all the announcements in one.
Only four new NL girls clubs, significantly more on the boys side

Dilution

take a moment and compare the rankings of the girls 4 ECNL new members vs the new ga...

Double dilution

ga parents in panic mode!!!

Some of the clubs choosing GA right now aren’t making reactionary moves at all. Honestly, a lot of them seem to be thinking long term.

These are clubs in strong soccer markets, good locations, and areas where there’s still a lot of room for growth. They’re stable clubs that believe they can afford to be patient instead of chasing whatever feels biggest at the moment. Not every club thinks they need an immediate win in year one.

A lot of the online discussion around ECNL vs GA acts like everything has to be decided overnight, but the girls landscape is still changing quite a bit. College roster changes, recruiting, travel costs, player movement, and development priorities are all shifting. Some clubs clearly believe GA gives them flexibility and upside long term, especially if they’re already in a strong position locally.

If a club is in a desirable area with strong player numbers and good infrastructure, they can wait a year or two and see how things continue to evolve. That doesn’t mean ECNL isn’t strong, because it obviously is, but I think some people underestimate how much these decisions are based on future positioning instead of short-term perception.

it is 100% reactionary. GA is trying to scoop up quantity in markets, quality be damned. clubs getting into ga gives them the ability to sell the "illusion" to parents/kids or getting recruited to college and the ability for the clubs to charge more by playing in the so called "elite" second league ga.

As much as you probabaly hate it. College are recruiting from GA. That is reality.