War with Iran

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like American wants Iran to Go make Anime and Worship The West

🕊️ U.S. 15-Point Ceasefire Proposal (2026)

â‘  No nuclear weapons (permanent ban)
② Dismantle nuclear weapons infrastructure
③ End uranium enrichment in Iran
④ Transfer enriched uranium stockpiles to international control
⑤ Decommission key nuclear sites (Natanz, Fordow, Isfahan)
⑥ Full access for international inspectors (IAEA)
⑦ End support for regional proxy groups
â‘§ Stop funding/arming groups like Hezbollah & others
⑨ Reduce or limit ballistic missile program
â‘© Restrict missile use to defensive purposes
⑪ Keep Strait of Hormuz open for global shipping
â‘« Temporary ceasefire (~1 month) for negotiations
⑬ Lifting of sanctions
â‘­ Economic reintegration
â‘® Civilian nuclear cooperation (non-weapons


Looks reasonable to me (and other normal people). What’s your source for this?


Why would Iran agree to this proposal, which would completely de-fang them, with a belligerent Israel going completely unchecked? They are getting almost nothing in return.
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Anonymous wrote:Iran has sent a warning to the United States that it will carpet bomb its own territory to attack any American troops landing there, according to diplomats from a third country who passed on the threat to Washington.

Omg. As a parent of a son on active duty, this is terrifying. Please make it stop.


Without an air force ?


Looking at the war in Ukraine as a guide to what modern warfare is like, an air force isn’t necessary to obliterate soldiers. More than 80 percent of casualties are now caused by cheep drones. And Iran is very advanced when it comes to drones.

It is very unfortunate that Trump and Hegseth ignored the generals and launched this breathtakingly reckless war. It’s not 1990 anymore. The battlefield has changed. There aren’t any good military options in 2026.


Yes, Ukraine has demonstrated that cheap drones can inflict large amounts of damage. The rules are entirely different now.


We are so wasteful. The US spends 2 billion a day on defense yet it doesn’t work. We spend the most on healthcare yet the insurance sucks. Where’s the quality and cost control? The government just sets our tax dollars aflame literally
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Anonymous wrote:Iran has sent a warning to the United States that it will carpet bomb its own territory to attack any American troops landing there, according to diplomats from a third country who passed on the threat to Washington.

Omg. As a parent of a son on active duty, this is terrifying. Please make it stop.


Without an air force ?


Seriously....drones and Iran has them.
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Wow - I wonder how all of those actors feel about their likenesses being used for AI videos! Though Judi Dench as Keir Starmer was a stroke of genius.
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Anonymous wrote:Jewish ambulances in London are set on fire.

LONDON — An arson attack on several ambulances from a Jewish volunteer service is being treated as an antisemitic hate crime, police in London said Monday.

The number of antisemitic incidents reported in Britain has surged since the Israel-Hamas war began in late 2023, including attacks on synagogues. The Community Security Trust, a British charity that works to protect the country’s Jewish population, recorded 3,700 incidents in 2025, compared with 1,662 in 2022.
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/united-kingdom/jewish-volunteer-ambulances-set-fire-london-apparent-antisemitic-attac-rcna264680

The claim for responsibility appears to have come from an Iran-aligned group, Harakat Ashab al-Yamin al-Islamiya - The Islamic Movement of the People of the Right Hand - after it made an unsubstantiated claim of responsibility on its Telegram channel earlier.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyj1p49gdpo


Were the ambulances buried w/ the medics killed, the way Israel did in Gaza? I've got news for you: Many in London didn't know they had their own ambulances and are wondering why and who is paying for the service.


Don’t you fret. It’s a nonprofit run entirely by volunteers. Are you actually still trying to push your BS?

Hatzola Northwest was established as a nonprofit organization in 1979 to provide free emergency medical services to residents of North London. According to its website, it works closely with national emergency services and area hospitals and responds to thousands of calls a year, “from minor injuries to life-threatening conditions.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/united-kingdom/jewish-volunteer-ambulances-set-fire-london-apparent-antisemitic-attac-rcna264680


im a msulim poster and the PP needs to stop it- this was a horrific attack and so are all the others. the rise in anti-jewish sentiment must stop! in fact non Isreali Jews should be made to feel safe and welcome for political reasons aside from the fact that its a human right. Isreal loves to point out that everyone hates jewish people and that they have to murder maim and steal in order to rot survive and the horrific acts like damaging ambulances, attacking synagogues, shouting at or being rude to jewish people is poisonous not just for them but also us. we dont want to live in a medieval hateful ignorant society and that means eschewing violence. I used anti-jew b/c the co-opting of antisemitic to refer only to one group of semites is infuriating to me - the Arabs are semites too- in fact when God promised the land to ABRAHAM, the Arabs are included in that and most of the progeny of Abraham is not Israeli/jews, they are from/of one grandson while Abraham had many grandsons and they are refereed to as the Arabs).


That’s nice that you’re mortified by anti Jewish violence but Do israelis especially the ones in Israel who throw rooftop viewing parties to dance and watch Palestinian get bombed show the same reciprocated empathy toward Muslim attacks and anti Arab or Iranian violence? Do you think they are mortified by the Iranian schoolgirls that were just murdered? Israelis are taught to hate Arabs more than they hate Hitler but you wanna throw on a cape for them and defend their honour when they say the most disgusting of things. You see a fellow brother/son of Abraham and they don’t see that. This is exactly how Jared Kushner was able to get over on multiple Arab states with his scam “Abraham Accords”.


so? im not in charge of their character, im in charge of my own. also I remember " the disbelievers plan, but Allah also plans and He is the best of Planners". having a good and moral character and practicing sabr (patience) in the face of persecution is an investment that pays dividends. You are right that we see them as our brothers and they dont - have you ever been in a blended family? that is how it works, one part of the family is loving, generous and kind while the other part is greedy, selfish and hateful. MLK wasn't muslim but what he said is true : the arc of history bends towards justice. I also believe the acts of terror and violence like bombing houses of worship, schools, hospitals are disgusting and we have to stop normalizing this violence . we dont believe in an "eye for an eye", look our moral system is SUPERIOR so that means when the Pete hegseths of the world dace on our daughters graves, we pray and we know they are not dead- say not of the martyrs that they are slain for they have everlasting life- that doesnt apply to Taliban monsters, it applies to the innocent muslim children. are you this outraged at the Yemeni and sudanese children starved by the Saudi and Emiratis? we are nt the same as these monsters- we are better, and better means that we had ourselves to a higher standard. so yes ill put on a cape for jewish children who live in fear, b/c im better than their parents.my smugness isn't for myself, its for deen -e- Mohammad, which is superior in its compassion and justice than all other men and you are betraying the Prophet when you speak like you do above. do you remember when the Prophet went to Taif???


A story regarding compassion and justice:

A few days ago a settler who lives in a wildcat settlement in the West Bank was driving around in his ATV with his brother. A wildcat settlement is one that is not even approved by the Israeli government and it is illegal under Israeli law. The area he was driving around is supposed to be off limits to Israelis. He gets in a car accident with a Palestinian man and dies. The brother says the following:

“Arabs from the village began to come… to scream and curse us, throw stones at us. I miraculously managed to call for help. They came after a long time, they managed to save us and took us to the hospital"

Video shows that's a lie. Palestinians from the village came to his aid. They helped carry the settler in a stretcher to a Palestinian Red Crescent ambulance.

Although an investigation of the incident is ongoing, settlers claim he was murdered. They go on pogroms throughout the West Bank. Torching homes and cars, beating people.

The Palestinian villagers had compassion for the injured settler, coming to his aid. In return their homes are being set ablaze and their children cower in fear.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/death-of-atv-driver-unleashes-new-outburst-of-settler-attacks-on-palestinians/


Where is the video and other evidence of these saintly Palestinians coming to his aid and carrying him to the ambulance?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Iran has sent a warning to the United States that it will carpet bomb its own territory to attack any American troops landing there, according to diplomats from a third country who passed on the threat to Washington.

Omg. As a parent of a son on active duty, this is terrifying. Please make it stop.


Source?
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Anonymous wrote:Why does America's cameras suck


So the USA lied again, so much for the ceasefire. Trump does not negotiate in good faith.


There's no ceasefire. What are you talking about?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jewish ambulances in London are set on fire.

LONDON — An arson attack on several ambulances from a Jewish volunteer service is being treated as an antisemitic hate crime, police in London said Monday.

The number of antisemitic incidents reported in Britain has surged since the Israel-Hamas war began in late 2023, including attacks on synagogues. The Community Security Trust, a British charity that works to protect the country’s Jewish population, recorded 3,700 incidents in 2025, compared with 1,662 in 2022.
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/united-kingdom/jewish-volunteer-ambulances-set-fire-london-apparent-antisemitic-attac-rcna264680

The claim for responsibility appears to have come from an Iran-aligned group, Harakat Ashab al-Yamin al-Islamiya - The Islamic Movement of the People of the Right Hand - after it made an unsubstantiated claim of responsibility on its Telegram channel earlier.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyj1p49gdpo


Were the ambulances buried w/ the medics killed, the way Israel did in Gaza? I've got news for you: Many in London didn't know they had their own ambulances and are wondering why and who is paying for the service.


Don’t you fret. It’s a nonprofit run entirely by volunteers. Are you actually still trying to push your BS?

Hatzola Northwest was established as a nonprofit organization in 1979 to provide free emergency medical services to residents of North London. According to its website, it works closely with national emergency services and area hospitals and responds to thousands of calls a year, “from minor injuries to life-threatening conditions.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/united-kingdom/jewish-volunteer-ambulances-set-fire-london-apparent-antisemitic-attac-rcna264680


im a msulim poster and the PP needs to stop it- this was a horrific attack and so are all the others. the rise in anti-jewish sentiment must stop! in fact non Isreali Jews should be made to feel safe and welcome for political reasons aside from the fact that its a human right. Isreal loves to point out that everyone hates jewish people and that they have to murder maim and steal in order to rot survive and the horrific acts like damaging ambulances, attacking synagogues, shouting at or being rude to jewish people is poisonous not just for them but also us. we dont want to live in a medieval hateful ignorant society and that means eschewing violence. I used anti-jew b/c the co-opting of antisemitic to refer only to one group of semites is infuriating to me - the Arabs are semites too- in fact when God promised the land to ABRAHAM, the Arabs are included in that and most of the progeny of Abraham is not Israeli/jews, they are from/of one grandson while Abraham had many grandsons and they are refereed to as the Arabs).


That’s nice that you’re mortified by anti Jewish violence but Do israelis especially the ones in Israel who throw rooftop viewing parties to dance and watch Palestinian get bombed show the same reciprocated empathy toward Muslim attacks and anti Arab or Iranian violence? Do you think they are mortified by the Iranian schoolgirls that were just murdered? Israelis are taught to hate Arabs more than they hate Hitler but you wanna throw on a cape for them and defend their honour when they say the most disgusting of things. You see a fellow brother/son of Abraham and they don’t see that. This is exactly how Jared Kushner was able to get over on multiple Arab states with his scam “Abraham Accords”.


so? im not in charge of their character, im in charge of my own. also I remember " the disbelievers plan, but Allah also plans and He is the best of Planners". having a good and moral character and practicing sabr (patience) in the face of persecution is an investment that pays dividends. You are right that we see them as our brothers and they dont - have you ever been in a blended family? that is how it works, one part of the family is loving, generous and kind while the other part is greedy, selfish and hateful. MLK wasn't muslim but what he said is true : the arc of history bends towards justice. I also believe the acts of terror and violence like bombing houses of worship, schools, hospitals are disgusting and we have to stop normalizing this violence . we dont believe in an "eye for an eye", look our moral system is SUPERIOR so that means when the Pete hegseths of the world dace on our daughters graves, we pray and we know they are not dead- say not of the martyrs that they are slain for they have everlasting life- that doesnt apply to Taliban monsters, it applies to the innocent muslim children. are you this outraged at the Yemeni and sudanese children starved by the Saudi and Emiratis? we are nt the same as these monsters- we are better, and better means that we had ourselves to a higher standard. so yes ill put on a cape for jewish children who live in fear, b/c im better than their parents.my smugness isn't for myself, its for deen -e- Mohammad, which is superior in its compassion and justice than all other men and you are betraying the Prophet when you speak like you do above. do you remember when the Prophet went to Taif???


A story regarding compassion and justice:

A few days ago a settler who lives in a wildcat settlement in the West Bank was driving around in his ATV with his brother. A wildcat settlement is one that is not even approved by the Israeli government and it is illegal under Israeli law. The area he was driving around is supposed to be off limits to Israelis. He gets in a car accident with a Palestinian man and dies. The brother says the following:

“Arabs from the village began to come… to scream and curse us, throw stones at us. I miraculously managed to call for help. They came after a long time, they managed to save us and took us to the hospital"

Video shows that's a lie. Palestinians from the village came to his aid. They helped carry the settler in a stretcher to a Palestinian Red Crescent ambulance.

Although an investigation of the incident is ongoing, settlers claim he was murdered. They go on pogroms throughout the West Bank. Torching homes and cars, beating people.

The Palestinian villagers had compassion for the injured settler, coming to his aid. In return their homes are being set ablaze and their children cower in fear.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/death-of-atv-driver-unleashes-new-outburst-of-settler-attacks-on-palestinians/


yes and I admire the Palestinians for their humanity- I love that they have retained a sense of humanity and compassion even for those who would kill them b/c this is the Islam that I was taught, the Islam that is most familiar to most Muslims and I know that the Christians reading this recognize this as the teaching of Christ as well. It doesn't really matter if you enemy is remorseless and evil, what matters is how you respond.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like American wants Iran to Go make Anime and Worship The West

🕊️ U.S. 15-Point Ceasefire Proposal (2026)

â‘  No nuclear weapons (permanent ban)
② Dismantle nuclear weapons infrastructure
③ End uranium enrichment in Iran
④ Transfer enriched uranium stockpiles to international control
⑤ Decommission key nuclear sites (Natanz, Fordow, Isfahan)
⑥ Full access for international inspectors (IAEA)
⑦ End support for regional proxy groups
â‘§ Stop funding/arming groups like Hezbollah & others
⑨ Reduce or limit ballistic missile program
â‘© Restrict missile use to defensive purposes
⑪ Keep Strait of Hormuz open for global shipping
â‘« Temporary ceasefire (~1 month) for negotiations
⑬ Lifting of sanctions
â‘­ Economic reintegration
â‘® Civilian nuclear cooperation (non-weapons


Looks reasonable to me (and other normal people). What’s your source for this?


Why would Iran agree to this proposal, which would completely de-fang them, with a belligerent Israel going completely unchecked? They are getting almost nothing in return.


If I were Iran, I would announce the possession of a nuke for safety reasons. Even if it’s false, that’s the only way they can stay insured against another invasion
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Iran has sent a warning to the United States that it will carpet bomb its own territory to attack any American troops landing there, according to diplomats from a third country who passed on the threat to Washington.

Omg. As a parent of a son on active duty, this is terrifying. Please make it stop.


Without an air force ?


Looking at the war in Ukraine as a guide to what modern warfare is like, an air force isn’t necessary to obliterate soldiers. More than 80 percent of casualties are now caused by cheep drones. And Iran is very advanced when it comes to drones.

It is very unfortunate that Trump and Hegseth ignored the generals and launched this breathtakingly reckless war. It’s not 1990 anymore. The battlefield has changed. There aren’t any good military options in 2026.


Yes, Ukraine has demonstrated that cheap drones can inflict large amounts of damage. The rules are entirely different now.


We are so wasteful. The US spends 2 billion a day on defense yet it doesn’t work. We spend the most on healthcare yet the insurance sucks. Where’s the quality and cost control? The government just sets our tax dollars aflame literally


Because defense spending isn't about what actually works, it's about awarding to the contractors who turn around and make lucrative campaign donations.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Iran has sent a warning to the United States that it will carpet bomb its own territory to attack any American troops landing there, according to diplomats from a third country who passed on the threat to Washington.

Omg. As a parent of a son on active duty, this is terrifying. Please make it stop.


Without an air force ?


If we invade the island to control the strait, we will have no missile capabilities. It would be a bloodbath. Just stupid.


Why doesn't Israel just drop a nuke? They've already dropped multiple equivalents on Gaza without too much backlash


Israel may drop a nuke but not on Iran, on US or Europe and blame Iran for it
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Iran has sent a warning to the United States that it will carpet bomb its own territory to attack any American troops landing there, according to diplomats from a third country who passed on the threat to Washington.

Omg. As a parent of a son on active duty, this is terrifying. Please make it stop.


Without an air force ?


Kharg island sits 16 miles off the coast of Iran. They don't need an air force to shoot the place up. It will be like shooting fish in a barrel.


The Iranians operate underground. They have underwater mines and underground weapons depots deep in the mountains. Sending our troops there will be a huge bloodbath. There’s a reason Israel isn’t sending their troops there. Iran would be a death trap for any army. That’s why the Europeans are smart enough to not get involved. Only the Americans and maybe Arabs are dumb enough to do this for Israel
Anonymous
World Health Organization officials are preparing for a nuclear catastrophe if the U.S.-Israel war with Iran escalates further:

https://www.politico.eu/article/were-preparing-for-a-nuclear-incident-in-the-middle-east-top-health-official-says-who-hanan-balkhy/
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Looks like American wants Iran to Go make Anime and Worship The West

🕊️ U.S. 15-Point Ceasefire Proposal (2026)

â‘  No nuclear weapons (permanent ban)
② Dismantle nuclear weapons infrastructure
③ End uranium enrichment in Iran
④ Transfer enriched uranium stockpiles to international control
⑤ Decommission key nuclear sites (Natanz, Fordow, Isfahan)
⑥ Full access for international inspectors (IAEA)
⑦ End support for regional proxy groups
â‘§ Stop funding/arming groups like Hezbollah & others
⑨ Reduce or limit ballistic missile program
â‘© Restrict missile use to defensive purposes
⑪ Keep Strait of Hormuz open for global shipping
â‘« Temporary ceasefire (~1 month) for negotiations
⑬ Lifting of sanctions
â‘­ Economic reintegration
â‘® Civilian nuclear cooperation (non-weapons


Looks reasonable to me (and other normal people). What’s your source for this?


Sounds like an application for Iran to be a client state like Japan
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:World Health Organization officials are preparing for a nuclear catastrophe if the U.S.-Israel war with Iran escalates further:

https://www.politico.eu/article/were-preparing-for-a-nuclear-incident-in-the-middle-east-top-health-official-says-who-hanan-balkhy/


Just when you thought Trump could not wreak more havoc on the world.

We will have so much to answer for when he is finally in our rear yew mirror.

I am furious at the idiots that either voted for him, or did not vote.
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