Masking policy Arlington Diocesan Schools

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Anonymous wrote:A number of kids were removing their masks during the day, I’m told. I witnessed the 6-8 graders putting their masks back on as they left school to catch their rides home. I was mortified.

Wow, I hadn’t thought of this. Presumably those kids’ parents are expecting them to wear masks throughout the day and haven’t opted out. How are schools and teachers going to enforce it and keep track of who is supposed to mask and who isn’t?

Yes I agree our school has not done a good job communicating that they are no longer enforcing masking. Our teachers don’t know which kids have opted out.

Right. If this is about “parent choice” shouldn’t the school be enforcing masking for the families that have opted to continue? Seems like it should work both ways if the whole underlying premise is parental choice for each family. Hmm, guess that was actually just a cover for unmasking, huh?

Teachers have too much on their plates already. They cannot spend more energy policing maskers vs. non-maskers. This is why optional masking will be a sh*tshow!

I haven't read this thread, but I have a question.

Optional masking should mean that kids can mask or not, depending on choice. So a kid can mask today and not mask tomorrow, depending on choice. Why should the teachers be policing what kids do on their choice on any day? When a behavior is by choice, and choice can change over time even for a given kid, then there should not be any tracking of any sort.

I find it funny that Catholic schools that give choices about nothing (not even sock color) this choice is a good idea on this of all things

+1000! great point

Yep. Maybe I can just cite “parent choice” and opt my child out of our Catholic school’s dress code. We find the fabric itchy and not breathable enough. Nobody can possibly be expected to have those fabrics touch their skin for 7 hours a day! It’s not good for their social-emotional health.

I would LOVE to say that when my little kid has been dinged because I allowed them to were short, non snow boot tie ugg boots in an appropriate school color to keep them warm at recess or when on dress down day they wore shorts of an appropriate length that weren’t gym shorts. My choice to keep my kid warm at recess or cool and not in a weird outfit in the spring.

Please just move your kid to your local public school. This is obviously not a good fit for you.

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Anonymous wrote:A number of kids were removing their masks during the day, I’m told. I witnessed the 6-8 graders putting their masks back on as they left school to catch their rides home. I was mortified.

Wow, I hadn’t thought of this. Presumably those kids’ parents are expecting them to wear masks throughout the day and haven’t opted out. How are schools and teachers going to enforce it and keep track of who is supposed to mask and who isn’t?

Yes I agree our school has not done a good job communicating that they are no longer enforcing masking. Our teachers don’t know which kids have opted out.

Right. If this is about “parent choice” shouldn’t the school be enforcing masking for the families that have opted to continue? Seems like it should work both ways if the whole underlying premise is parental choice for each family. Hmm, guess that was actually just a cover for unmasking, huh?

Teachers have too much on their plates already. They cannot spend more energy policing maskers vs. non-maskers. This is why optional masking will be a sh*tshow!

I haven't read this thread, but I have a question.

Optional masking should mean that kids can mask or not, depending on choice. So a kid can mask today and not mask tomorrow, depending on choice. Why should the teachers be policing what kids do on their choice on any day? When a behavior is by choice, and choice can change over time even for a given kid, then there should not be any tracking of any sort.

The executive order frames it as if the parents have a choice.

In reality, the children are running the show here, as teachers have lost the right to 1) protest when they have to share a room with unvaccinated people who don't wear a mask and are not socially distant and 2) tell children that they SPOKE to the parent and the parent said they want the child do X/Y & Z.

So, yeah, the six year olds are really in charge now.

That always works out great.

Unvaccinated and unmasked kids are not the problem. It’s the kids going to school sick. These are usually the ones hiding symptoms behind masks.

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My kids school in a close in suburb was mainly masked. Not out of misinformation, control or fear. But because most parents felt it was the right thing to do considering the numbers at the moment. The students not masked were not grouped together, and there was no bullying of those who did not wear a mask. Families on both sides all had conversations with their children that some families would be making a different choice, end of story.

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Anonymous wrote:My young elementary child reported that about 6 out of 22 kids were not in masks today. I kind of thought it would be higher given the conservative bent of our parish. Interestingly the teacher, who literally just had Covid, was still wearing a mask and told the kids she doesn’t want to get sick again.

We had to indicate whether our child will continue to wear a mask or not. The seating chart was changed so that kids wearing masks are near each other and kids not wearing masks are near each other. I am glad about this since it affects quarantines for the kids who aren’t vaccinated. I’d also rather not increase my child’s chances of getting Covid at school again. He got it earlier this year from the child sitting next to him who was not good at wearing a mask (shocker they’re one of the 6 not wearing one now). I am guessing the kids who are still wearing masks tend to come from families who don’t go out of their way to take crazy risks when Covid numbers are high. I’d rather my kid be seated around those kids than the ones whose parents think Covid is fake news.

In our school two of my kids had all kids wear masks (so happy). Those teachers have talked covid a lot and not wanting to risk their own health and in one case her new baby. My daughter reported that her best friend's family was debating no masks (they just got over covid so feel that they won't get it anytime soon or be a risk) but my daughter was told she needs to stay away from those not wearing masks and she told her that - the girl's response was that she will wear a mask.

My other child - two kids out of the 16 are now not wearing masks. They were moved away from everyone into the corners.

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Anonymous wrote:A number of kids were removing their masks during the day, I’m told. I witnessed the 6-8 graders putting their masks back on as they left school to catch their rides home. I was mortified.

Wow, I hadn’t thought of this. Presumably those kids’ parents are expecting them to wear masks throughout the day and haven’t opted out. How are schools and teachers going to enforce it and keep track of who is supposed to mask and who isn’t?

Wow, you really don't understand kids! (hint: they are all going to do this!)

They can't though. They have to opt out (at least in our school) which requires paperwork. If they don't opt out they must wear a mask because they have to be distanced more, etc

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Anonymous wrote:A number of kids were removing their masks during the day, I’m told. I witnessed the 6-8 graders putting their masks back on as they left school to catch their rides home. I was mortified.

Wow, I hadn’t thought of this. Presumably those kids’ parents are expecting them to wear masks throughout the day and haven’t opted out. How are schools and teachers going to enforce it and keep track of who is supposed to mask and who isn’t?

Wow, you really don't understand kids! (hint: they are all going to do this!)

They can't though. They have to opt out (at least in our school) which requires paperwork. If they don't opt out they must wear a mask because they have to be distanced more, etc

You also don't know how classrooms work. Teachers have said they aren't "tracking" paperwork and don't have the bandwidth to be on this all day. The cool kids were the first to take them off, as they are more confident. Over the next few days they'll all be down or off.
Also, segregating the class is going against the direction the diocese gave in writing that no student would be treated differently. When parents find out their maskless child has been segregated from the class they should contact the diocese immediately, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:How many people on this thread do you all think are trolls?

SOOOOOOO many!

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I haven't read this thread, but I have a question.

Optional masking should mean that kids can mask or not, depending on choice. So a kid can mask today and not mask tomorrow, depending on choice. Why should the teachers be policing what kids do on their choice on any day? When a behavior is by choice, and choice can change over time even for a given kid, then there should not be any tracking of any sort.

The executive order frames it as if the parents have a choice.

In reality, the children are running the show here, as teachers have lost the right to 1) protest when they have to share a room with unvaccinated people who don't wear a mask and are not socially distant and 2) tell children that they SPOKE to the parent and the parent said they want the child do X/Y & Z.

So, yeah, the six year olds are really in charge now.

That always works out great.

Unvaccinated and unmasked kids are not the problem. It’s the kids going to school sick. These are usually the ones hiding symptoms behind masks.

Not quite correct. You are contagious two days prior to symptoms (perhaps even three) so parents can be sending in infection points without realizing it. I have to do covid intake reports at my office building. We are 100% masked and have been since we went back last summer. No one is allowed in with any signs of any illness. Most comply so we have had very few instances of sending people home sick. They call in and work from home. Our infection points have all been close contacts in the day or two leading up to symptoms.

Now, you might ask -- WELL if you are all masked then how is it spreading? GOOD QUESTION! We have found that in MOST cases it is because employees are breaking the rules. They are having in person meetings (unmasked because they want people to hear them or they are healthy), they are eating lunch with one another, and hanging out at one another's desk and they have their masks off. EVERY.SINGLE.FREAKING.TIME!!!

We have had low to no incidences of transmission amongst the properly masked and distanced even with Omicron.

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I haven't read this thread, but I have a question.

Optional masking should mean that kids can mask or not, depending on choice. So a kid can mask today and not mask tomorrow, depending on choice. Why should the teachers be policing what kids do on their choice on any day? When a behavior is by choice, and choice can change over time even for a given kid, then there should not be any tracking of any sort.

The executive order frames it as if the parents have a choice.

In reality, the children are running the show here, as teachers have lost the right to 1) protest when they have to share a room with unvaccinated people who don't wear a mask and are not socially distant and 2) tell children that they SPOKE to the parent and the parent said they want the child do X/Y & Z.

So, yeah, the six year olds are really in charge now.

That always works out great.

Unvaccinated and unmasked kids are not the problem. It’s the kids going to school sick. These are usually the ones hiding symptoms behind masks.

Not quite correct. You are contagious two days prior to symptoms (perhaps even three) so parents can be sending in infection points without realizing it. I have to do covid intake reports at my office building. We are 100% masked and have been since we went back last summer. No one is allowed in with any signs of any illness. Most comply so we have had very few instances of sending people home sick. They call in and work from home. Our infection points have all been close contacts in the day or two leading up to symptoms.

Now, you might ask -- WELL if you are all masked then how is it spreading? GOOD QUESTION! We have found that in MOST cases it is because employees are breaking the rules. They are having in person meetings (unmasked because they want people to hear them or they are healthy), they are eating lunch with one another, and hanging out at one another's desk and they have their masks off. EVERY.SINGLE.FREAKING.TIME!!!

We have had low to no incidences of transmission amongst the properly masked and distanced even with Omicron.

Not quite correct. You are contagious two days prior to symptoms (perhaps even three) so parents can be sending in infection points without realizing it. I have to do covid intake reports at my office building. We are 100% masked and have been since we went back last summer. No one is allowed in with any signs of any illness. Most comply so we have had very few instances of sending people home sick. They call in and work from home. Our infection points have all been close contacts in the day or two leading up to symptoms.

Now, you might ask -- WELL if you are all masked then how is it spreading? GOOD QUESTION! We have found that in MOST cases it is because employees are breaking the rules. They are having in person meetings (unmasked because they want people to hear them or they are healthy), they are eating lunch with one another, and hanging out at one another's desk and they have their masks off. EVERY.SINGLE.FREAKING.TIME!!!

We have had low to no incidences of transmission amongst the properly masked and distanced even with Omicron.

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Anonymous wrote:A number of kids were removing their masks during the day, I’m told. I witnessed the 6-8 graders putting their masks back on as they left school to catch their rides home. I was mortified.

Wow, I hadn’t thought of this. Presumably those kids’ parents are expecting them to wear masks throughout the day and haven’t opted out. How are schools and teachers going to enforce it and keep track of who is supposed to mask and who isn’t?

Wow, you really don't understand kids! (hint: they are all going to do this!)

They can't though. They have to opt out (at least in our school) which requires paperwork. If they don't opt out they must wear a mask because they have to be distanced more, etc

You also don't know how classrooms work. Teachers have said they aren't "tracking" paperwork and don't have the bandwidth to be on this all day. The cool kids were the first to take them off, as they are more confident. Over the next few days they'll all be down or off.
Also, segregating the class is going against the direction the diocese gave in writing that no student would be treated differently. When parents find out their maskless child has been segregated from the class they should contact the diocese immediately, etc.

Of course they are going to be segregated. The masked kids don’t want to sit near your kids or work on projects with them. Especially if they have a parent or grandparent with health issues at home.

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Anonymous wrote:A number of kids were removing their masks during the day, I’m told. I witnessed the 6-8 graders putting their masks back on as they left school to catch their rides home. I was mortified.

Wow, I hadn’t thought of this. Presumably those kids’ parents are expecting them to wear masks throughout the day and haven’t opted out. How are schools and teachers going to enforce it and keep track of who is supposed to mask and who isn’t?

Wow, you really don't understand kids! (hint: they are all going to do this!)

They can't though. They have to opt out (at least in our school) which requires paperwork. If they don't opt out they must wear a mask because they have to be distanced more, etc

You also don't know how classrooms work. Teachers have said they aren't "tracking" paperwork and don't have the bandwidth to be on this all day. The cool kids were the first to take them off, as they are more confident. Over the next few days they'll all be down or off.
Also, segregating the class is going against the direction the diocese gave in writing that no student would be treated differently. When parents find out their maskless child has been segregated from the class they should contact the diocese immediately, etc.

Of course they are going to be segregated. The masked kids don’t want to sit near your kids or work on projects with them. Especially if they have a parent or grandparent with health issues at home.

Doing group work is ridiculous if you are requiring masks. Do you really think a mask is going to protect kids working within inches of each other. Even the CDC says it won't. If you are less than 3 feet you are getting it!

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Anonymous wrote:A number of kids were removing their masks during the day, I’m told. I witnessed the 6-8 graders putting their masks back on as they left school to catch their rides home. I was mortified.

Wow, I hadn’t thought of this. Presumably those kids’ parents are expecting them to wear masks throughout the day and haven’t opted out. How are schools and teachers going to enforce it and keep track of who is supposed to mask and who isn’t?

Wow, you really don't understand kids! (hint: they are all going to do this!)

They can't though. They have to opt out (at least in our school) which requires paperwork. If they don't opt out they must wear a mask because they have to be distanced more, etc

You also don't know how classrooms work. Teachers have said they aren't "tracking" paperwork and don't have the bandwidth to be on this all day. The cool kids were the first to take them off, as they are more confident. Over the next few days they'll all be down or off.
Also, segregating the class is going against the direction the diocese gave in writing that no student would be treated differently. When parents find out their maskless child has been segregated from the class they should contact the diocese immediately, etc.

Of course they are going to be segregated. The masked kids don’t want to sit near your kids or work on projects with them. Especially if they have a parent or grandparent with health issues at home.

They will be segregated because they still have to try and follow the CDC guidelines as dictated by state law to what extent they can. They will be distanced further from the rest of the kids. This is actually the diocese policy.

The maskless parents are not thinking this through and if there kids are unvaccinated they will be quarantined and kicked out at any in class exposures, because that is what the guidance says as well.

Our school wants them all to be masked. And thankfully the early reports are only a handful of kids are not wearing masks. We have teachers with health issues, etc. These maskless kids are the same ones that jumped into our school when public school was all virtual because they needed in person. Now these same families are trying to cause outbreaks in our schools with their stupidity, and then we will have to shut down. We have had ZERO spread in our school and have been in person all of last year. The safety procedures have been amazing. Now we have these knuckleheads going to ruin it.

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Millions of children across the country are attending school without masks. The sky has not fallen. This whole issue is stupid. Wear a mask if you want to; don’t wear one if you don’t want to. It makes no difference.

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Anonymous wrote:A number of kids were removing their masks during the day, I’m told. I witnessed the 6-8 graders putting their masks back on as they left school to catch their rides home. I was mortified.

Wow, I hadn’t thought of this. Presumably those kids’ parents are expecting them to wear masks throughout the day and haven’t opted out. How are schools and teachers going to enforce it and keep track of who is supposed to mask and who isn’t?

Wow, you really don't understand kids! (hint: they are all going to do this!)

They can't though. They have to opt out (at least in our school) which requires paperwork. If they don't opt out they must wear a mask because they have to be distanced more, etc

You also don't know how classrooms work. Teachers have said they aren't "tracking" paperwork and don't have the bandwidth to be on this all day. The cool kids were the first to take them off, as they are more confident. Over the next few days they'll all be down or off.
Also, segregating the class is going against the direction the diocese gave in writing that no student would be treated differently. When parents find out their maskless child has been segregated from the class they should contact the diocese immediately, etc.

Of course they are going to be segregated. The masked kids don’t want to sit near your kids or work on projects with them. Especially if they have a parent or grandparent with health issues at home.

They will be segregated because they still have to try and follow the CDC guidelines as dictated by state law to what extent they can. They will be distanced further from the rest of the kids. This is actually the diocese policy.

The maskless parents are not thinking this through and if there kids are unvaccinated they will be quarantined and kicked out at any in class exposures, because that is what the guidance says as well.

Our school wants them all to be masked. And thankfully the early reports are only a handful of kids are not wearing masks. We have teachers with health issues, etc. These maskless kids are the same ones that jumped into our school when public school was all virtual because they needed in person. Now these same families are trying to cause outbreaks in our schools with their stupidity, and then we will have to shut down. We have had ZERO spread in our school and have been in person all of last year. The safety procedures have been amazing. Now we have these knuckleheads going to ruin it.

At our school its the opposite. The more seasoned parents want masks off. They know what kids are missing.

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Anonymous wrote:A number of kids were removing their masks during the day, I’m told. I witnessed the 6-8 graders putting their masks back on as they left school to catch their rides home. I was mortified.

Wow, I hadn’t thought of this. Presumably those kids’ parents are expecting them to wear masks throughout the day and haven’t opted out. How are schools and teachers going to enforce it and keep track of who is supposed to mask and who isn’t?

Wow, you really don't understand kids! (hint: they are all going to do this!)

They can't though. They have to opt out (at least in our school) which requires paperwork. If they don't opt out they must wear a mask because they have to be distanced more, etc

You also don't know how classrooms work. Teachers have said they aren't "tracking" paperwork and don't have the bandwidth to be on this all day. The cool kids were the first to take them off, as they are more confident. Over the next few days they'll all be down or off.
Also, segregating the class is going against the direction the diocese gave in writing that no student would be treated differently. When parents find out their maskless child has been segregated from the class they should contact the diocese immediately, etc.

So you agree there isn’t really a way for schools to enforce “parent choice” once the kids are inside the buildings? Which suggests the whole executive order is completely meaningless and the idea was used as a cover for unmasking generally.