FCPS paying for Critical Race Theory curriculum. To be implemented in a year

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Proclaiming Jefferson as an unworthy terrible person who deserves vilification isn't speaking unpopular truth to power. It's just being ridiculous and wrong.

Did I say that? Read carefully. I am pretty sure I called him a slave owner and a rapist who did not deserve to have taxpayers who he would have victimized keep his name on buildings. Not having your name on a building is not being victimized, it is just, and this is important....not having your name on a building.

He's a Founding Father. It seems that you don't know why he is. Sorry.

He was a founding father. He was also a slave owner and a rapist. Both are true and one does not cancel out the other. Being a founding father does not entitle someone to indefinite, uncritical veneration or indefinite support from a changing taxpayer electorate.

I mean, yeah, he pretty much does. It's ignorant to say otherwise.

If it did, then why is he receiving so much criticism?

From wokesters? They're bored, and half-nuts, like everyone else, after last year.

He was receiving criticism in my (Northern) political science and history classes since middle school. This is nothing new in much of the country, it will just take time for VA to catch up.

Renaming schools? Taking down statues? Removing pictures? Nope. They haven't been doing that since you were a kid.

Again please read more carefully. Thomas Jefferson has been receiving criticism and not taught as a reverential figure since I was a middle school student, which is when much of the Hemings material came into the public discourse over the objections of some of his (white) descendants.

Yes, you said he's been receiving criticism since the scholarship re Sally Hemings changed. But only now are we renaming schools with Jefferson's name. You're saying it's all the same. I'm saying it's not.

And before this we started renaming things from the Confederacy. And in 2021 Mississippi finally changed their state flag. The country evolves— slowly— but it does evolve. Addressing Jefferson more honestly is one of those changes.

Or the pendulum has swung too far and we're going too far. Jefferson wasn't Lee. Jefferson isn't an enemy of the Union. He was instrumental in forming the Union, the country.

Renaming Lee Highway makes sense. Renaming schools named for Jefferson doesn't. IMO

What made the Union any better than the Confederacy? The schools are teaching that the war was fought because the Union was anti slavery and the Confederacy was pro slavery. They were fighting over control of the industries. The Union was getting their busts kicked and made a deal to free the slaves, if they helped win the war for the Union.
There were White Supremacists on both sides and if the Union didn’t need the slaves help in the war, blacks May still be slaves in this country.

Wow. This is like the "anti-racist" retelling of states' rights.

IOW, wrong.

This is the truth.

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duh the only solution is to rename everything after anti-racist flowers, animals and trees.

but only in a non-colonizer language. No French, English, Dutch, German or even Spanish.

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Anonymous wrote:duh the only solution is to rename everything after anti-racist flowers, animals and trees.

but only in a non-colonizer language. No French, English, Dutch, German or even Spanish.

I’m not talking about renaming anything. I just don’t want to teach our children that certain characters where so righteous, when they committed crimes against humanity. Let the truth be known and if the people want to still honor a pedophile like Thomas Jefferson (he’s not the only one), let that be known too.

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Anonymous wrote:duh the only solution is to rename everything after anti-racist flowers, animals and trees.

but only in a non-colonizer language. No French, English, Dutch, German or even Spanish.

I’m not talking about renaming anything. I just don’t want to teach our children that certain characters where so righteous, when they committed crimes against humanity. Let the truth be known and if the people want to still honor a pedophile like Thomas Jefferson (he’s not the only one), let that be known too.

Maybe let's also teach kids why Jefferson is so amazing that buildings are named after him. At least kids will know something important.

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Anonymous wrote:duh the only solution is to rename everything after anti-racist flowers, animals and trees.

but only in a non-colonizer language. No French, English, Dutch, German or even Spanish.

I’m not talking about renaming anything. I just don’t want to teach our children that certain characters where so righteous, when they committed crimes against humanity. Let the truth be known and if the people want to still honor a pedophile like Thomas Jefferson (he’s not the only one), let that be known too.

You misspelled "pedofile".

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Anonymous wrote:duh the only solution is to rename everything after anti-racist flowers, animals and trees.

but only in a non-colonizer language. No French, English, Dutch, German or even Spanish.

I’m not talking about renaming anything. I just don’t want to teach our children that certain characters where so righteous, when they committed crimes against humanity. Let the truth be known and if the people want to still honor a pedophile like Thomas Jefferson (he’s not the only one), let that be known too.

You misspelled "pedofile".

What is the correct spelling

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Anonymous wrote:duh the only solution is to rename everything after anti-racist flowers, animals and trees.

but only in a non-colonizer language. No French, English, Dutch, German or even Spanish.

I’m not talking about renaming anything. I just don’t want to teach our children that certain characters where so righteous, when they committed crimes against humanity. Let the truth be known and if the people want to still honor a pedophile like Thomas Jefferson (he’s not the only one), let that be known too.

You misspelled "pedofile".

What is the correct spelling

Trolls spell it with an "f".

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Anonymous wrote:duh the only solution is to rename everything after anti-racist flowers, animals and trees.

but only in a non-colonizer language. No French, English, Dutch, German or even Spanish.

I’m not talking about renaming anything. I just don’t want to teach our children that certain characters where so righteous, when they committed crimes against humanity. Let the truth be known and if the people want to still honor a pedophile like Thomas Jefferson (he’s not the only one), let that be known too.

You misspelled "pedofile".

What is the correct spelling

Trolls spell it with an "f".

I’ve seen it spelled different ways. I think either way is acceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:duh the only solution is to rename everything after anti-racist flowers, animals and trees.

but only in a non-colonizer language. No French, English, Dutch, German or even Spanish.

I’m not talking about renaming anything. I just don’t want to teach our children that certain characters where so righteous, when they committed crimes against humanity. Let the truth be known and if the people want to still honor a pedophile like Thomas Jefferson (he’s not the only one), let that be known too.

You misspelled "pedofile".

What is the correct spelling

Trolls spell it with an "f".

I’ve seen it spelled different ways. I think either way is acceptable.

lol

No.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:duh the only solution is to rename everything after anti-racist flowers, animals and trees.

but only in a non-colonizer language. No French, English, Dutch, German or even Spanish.

I’m not talking about renaming anything. I just don’t want to teach our children that certain characters where so righteous, when they committed crimes against humanity. Let the truth be known and if the people want to still honor a pedophile like Thomas Jefferson (he’s not the only one), let that be known too.

You misspelled "pedofile".

What is the correct spelling

Trolls spell it with an "f".

I’ve seen it spelled different ways. I think either way is acceptable.

lol

No.

Well whichever way you would like to spell it, that’s what Thomas Jefferson was.

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Anonymous wrote:duh the only solution is to rename everything after anti-racist flowers, animals and trees.

but only in a non-colonizer language. No French, English, Dutch, German or even Spanish.

I’m not talking about renaming anything. I just don’t want to teach our children that certain characters where so righteous, when they committed crimes against humanity. Let the truth be known and if the people want to still honor a pedophile like Thomas Jefferson (he’s not the only one), let that be known too.

You misspelled "pedofile".

What is the correct spelling

Trolls spell it with an "f".

I’ve seen it spelled different ways. I think either way is acceptable.

lol

No.

Well whichever way you would like to spell it, that’s what Thomas Jefferson was.

If you don't care about accuracy. I guess.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:duh the only solution is to rename everything after anti-racist flowers, animals and trees.

but only in a non-colonizer language. No French, English, Dutch, German or even Spanish.

I’m not talking about renaming anything. I just don’t want to teach our children that certain characters where so righteous, when they committed crimes against humanity. Let the truth be known and if the people want to still honor a pedophile like Thomas Jefferson (he’s not the only one), let that be known too.

Didn't Jesus say ye that has no sin cast the first stone? I think you are too self righteous for your own good

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Anonymous wrote:There are 49 other states and tons of other countries that will let you in. Go find your people and stop living off the fruits of the white supremacists you hate.

No, white supremacists are the ones living off the fruits of others and you are only trying to confuse us otherwise.

Disagree. People are people with similar needs and wants. The government and corporations are just a group of people in power at any given time. They are not worse or better as a whole than any given victim in America. They are a reflection of ourselves and our wants and needs. The US Constitution is the longest running constitution in the world for a reason which was based off of Jefferson's call for freedom and Madison's understanding of law mainly backed by various European laws over time. Venezuela has your name on it I guess if you think the whites are so terrible here.

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I am still in disbelief that there are people in this country who feel it is still appropriate to give the long-running version of country that is solely from the white perspective. That gives a version of all of the wonderful things our white forebears did, gave us, provided, etc. This is a lie.

Yes, there were many wonderful things. But that was often on the backs, and using the lash or discrimination, of POC and other minority groups. Not to mention the treatment of women of all color. Of course, there were also wonderful things/contributions of whites but there were also those of POC, women, and other minorities. Those stories are rarely told (how old were you when you learned of the Tulsa massacre, to bring up something current? I was 47). The full picture of our founders -and forward- are also rarely given. Thomas Jefferson is only the most glaring example of that.

It should be told. All of it. The current state of history should include it all and not be relegated to "ethnic studies", "african studies" or "womens studies" classes. Including it -in age appropriate ways- is historically accurate, fair, and the absolute right thing to do.

I question the motives, integrity, and intelligence of anyone who disagrees with this.
(PS- I'm white).

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Anonymous wrote:There are 49 other states and tons of other countries that will let you in. Go find your people and stop living off the fruits of the white supremacists you hate.

No, white supremacists are the ones living off the fruits of others and you are only trying to confuse us otherwise.

Disagree. People are people with similar needs and wants. The government and corporations are just a group of people in power at any given time. They are not worse or better as a whole than any given victim in America. They are a reflection of ourselves and our wants and needs. The US Constitution is the longest running constitution in the world for a reason which was based off of Jefferson's call for freedom and Madison's understanding of law mainly backed by various European laws over time. Venezuela has your name on it I guess if you think the whites are so terrible here.

You're quite the patriot, aren't you? Maybe you are unfamiliar with the idea that in America, at least for the time being, one need not move/leave to offer a critical opinion of it or its' government. That just proves your ignorance and that you shouldn't be lecturing anyone on what it is to be American.