Handmaid’s Tale season 4

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Anonymous wrote:This was awful, I’m done with the series.

Reading all these comments I thought I was the only one who thought this ending was horrific.

The lesson I took from this is if someone oppresses you then you have every right to murder. Have we really gotten to this point in our society? June's actions should not be celebrated. I don't think it is far-fetched for her character to do this based on the path we have seen this season, but her actions shouldn't be lumped into a "girl-power-isn't-this-awesome" kind of thing that is being spelled out in all the reviews/interviews.

In all honestly, it would have felt more poetic for the women to not kill him...yet still send the finger to Serena...and let Fred go back to Gilead. He was not going to have a great reunion and likely would have ended up the wall as his fellow commanders no longer welcomed him. Why not let him see his whole life spiral out of control first.

Did you not watch the last scene? That’s the point. She decided to be a murderer but now…she’s a murderer. And you can argue that there’s a place for that in war and revolution but by doing so, she has forfeited her chance to live as a refugee in her reconstructed family. She knows, Luke knows, that’s the point of the last scene.

+1 The lesson is that violence and rage begets violence and rage. Look at the history of conflict in any part of the world. You don't oppress without creating a cycle of oppression. The desire for revenge is too powerful. Joseph is right, too, that it won't ultimately satisfy June. The triumph will be temporary, and she will still be unhealed. The tragedy of Gilead includes its legacy in the lives of those who've escaped.

While I don't disagree, I feel that the producers are doing a disservice by going around in interviews saying that June choose "justice" for what she did to Fred. It would be much more interesting if instead the show made more of a point to showcase how Gilead destroyed June's conscience and created a rage in her that cannot currently be fulfilled. Instead, they filmed it in a way that seemed to glorify her violence and even excused it as necessary because again it was just "justice." That is what I take issue with.

That's exactly how I read her actions. Not as justice per se but as (understandable) white hot rage.

From her perspective, there was never going to be justice if it was left up to the governments. I think she gave up on that idea.

There was, however, poetic justice in morbidly restoring a finger to Serena.

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I am not June’s biggest fan but Gilead took everything from her including her ability to be happy and be a mother. That rage she feels will never be quelled but I can’t blame her for wanting to kill him.

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Anonymous wrote:What a fricking disappointment!! A gang killing? Come on - that’s not only completely unbelievable, it’s also dramatically unsatisfying.

I’m actually pissed.

+1000.
Not satisfying, not interesting.
That may be the last episode I watch.

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I keep waiting for June’s mother to show up.did they ever really say she died? If it wAs just inferred then maybe she could still be alive

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I loved the final scene. He wrote the laws in Gilead they forced the handmaid's to do killings in this manner to others *shrugs* I hope they send Serena back

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Anonymous wrote:I keep waiting for June’s mother to show up.did they ever really say she died? If it wAs just inferred then maybe she could still be alive

She was sent to the (toxic) colonies so highly unlikely.

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Anonymous wrote:I keep waiting for June’s mother to show up.did they ever really say she died? If it wAs just inferred then maybe she could still be alive

Yes!!! Why has this not been revisited now that Emily and June are together in Canada? I keep waiting for it to circle back! In the finale when June said something about her mother always saying [insert quote] I was so sure that it was something that would click with Emily and she would say that a woman in the colony said the same quote. Lightbulb lights up and connected realized. Nope.

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People only last a few months in the colonies, right? It’s been at least 7 years. I loved her mom, but I’m over highly implausible storylines on this show.

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Anonymous wrote:This was awful, I’m done with the series.

Reading all these comments I thought I was the only one who thought this ending was horrific.

The lesson I took from this is if someone oppresses you then you have every right to murder. Have we really gotten to this point in our society? June's actions should not be celebrated. I don't think it is far-fetched for her character to do this based on the path we have seen this season, but her actions shouldn't be lumped into a "girl-power-isn't-this-awesome" kind of thing that is being spelled out in all the reviews/interviews.

In all honestly, it would have felt more poetic for the women to not kill him...yet still send the finger to Serena...and let Fred go back to Gilead. He was not going to have a great reunion and likely would have ended up the wall as his fellow commanders no longer welcomed him. Why not let him see his whole life spiral out of control first.

I celebrated and I’m not sorry.

+1million. I bet the PP has never really experienced extreme abuse or oppression. So nice to think life should be so sweet and just in the face of tyranny.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm team Luke, but I was at least entertained. After such a slow season, that's something.

I don't really believe any of it any more so I'm not as horrified as I maybe otherwise would be. I'm happy for a twist.

They should end the series there.

I go back and forth on Luke, but I really hated him this episode. He wants his traumatized wife to just move on. And where are the real therapists in Canada.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm team Luke, but I was at least entertained. After such a slow season, that's something.

I don't really believe any of it any more so I'm not as horrified as I maybe otherwise would be. I'm happy for a twist.

They should end the series there.

I go back and forth on Luke, but I really hated him this episode. He wants his traumatized wife to just move on. And where are the real therapists in Canada.

I thought his reactions were perfectly understandable. June was offered therapy and has not taken advantage of it. Sometimes traumatized people are not ready for therapy.

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Anonymous wrote:She already murdered a doctor in a previous season. She's already a murderer.

What doctor. I do not recall this. I remember her killing the Commander in self-defense in the brothel as he tried to rape and kill her. But what doctor did she murder?

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Anonymous wrote:Returning a finger to Serena was perfect

Agreed.

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Anonymous wrote:What a fricking disappointment!! A gang killing? Come on - that’s not only completely unbelievable, it’s also dramatically unsatisfying.

I’m actually pissed.

I loved it. June pulled all the women who had been abused by Gilead and they extracted their revenge. It was the only justice they would ever receive. My only disappointment is that Fred had a quick death and Serena and Aunt Lydia were hanging beside him on the wall with missing fingers.

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Anonymous wrote:I truly hated the season finale. Barbaric and patently ridiculous in terms of believability. Nothing clever about the ending at all. I’m disappointed.

I agree, it was disappointing. I get June needing to exorcise demons but she chose savage revenge over her family. She could have had both. Would have gotten revenge simply sending him back--he would have ended up on the wall for his betrayal.

Lol no he wouldn’t have! Look around you, men get a pass always always no matter what horrid shit they do. He would have weaseled his way out the men in power would have been fine with it and he’s grow nice and old with some side pieces away from the government.

He deserved it and he was owed that death for all that he did. There’s a saying in training day the movie…you wanna get shii done, you gotta do it yourself.

He deserved far worse than that. That’s why it was so unsatisfying to me and so “un-clever”. A gang beating in the woods? Come on. Stupid.

It was Emily's idea for the killing in the woods. When June told Emily she wanted Fred to experience the fear she felt running for her life in the woods, the two of them formulated the plan. Fred experienced the fear June felt running through the woods afraid for her and her child. Poetic Justice. Serena better have a childbirth or they better take her child from her at birth. I don't care which, just make her motherless pining for her lost child.

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Hated it. I wish the show was more world building and geopolitical like it was in the beginning. Now it just feels like a Lifetime Movie. Or even a trying too hard and wannabe Tarantino movie. The part with the whistle in the woods and the aerial shots with them in a neat circle around Fred. They want to make these beautiful shots but it just felt silly to me. The writing has gone way off the rails at this point.