War with Iran Part II

[Anonymous]

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Pakistan does have some stability issues in the Pashtun areas bordering Afghanistan. That's to be expected because the Brits fked up the entire West, Central, and South Asian colonial regions with their racist and brutal divide and conquer hierarchies. But Pakistan has been way more reliable than Israel in making sure American soldiers and civilians aren't killed as invaders, meat shields, bait, or collateral damage.

Stop blaming the British - the brutal "divide and conquer" strategy and, frankly, racism, is exactly what the Muslim League employed to break up India and then through a campaign of rape and genocide, ethnically cleanse Northwest India to create "Pakistan".

As G. M. Syed himself said: "All Hindus shall be driven out of Sindh like the Jews from Germany."

The Pashtun areas are f--ked up because there used to be Hindu and Buddhist Pashtuns, but now they're all dead and the surviving Pashtuns are insane with ancestral trauma.

So stupid. The development and non-development, as well as the stability and instability, of whole continents is directly proportional to how much the Euros (and Americans) fked up each neighborhood during colonialism as well as the post-colonial "Jim Crow" meddling with dictator merry-go-rounds and post-colonial vestigial colonial economies. LA, N Africa, Sub-Saharan Africa, W Asia, Central Asia, S Asia, and E Asia. How stupid was it for literally some white guy to draw a line splitting up various large ethnic groups around the world so they spill over into two or three countries? Do the historical comparisons. I'm not super invested in every one of these areas but the pattern seems to hold.

And the muslims were discriminated against under British rule which was a big reason why the discontent with the Hindus existed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Notice how all those anti-Israel protests that happened in 2024 are non-existent now?

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-campus-protest-culture-that-targeted-biden-goes-silent-for-trump-iran-anti-war

Kinda amazing.

The bulwark is hardcore Zionist organization.

Please show where the facts in the article are wrong.

What are the facts? College protesters were arrested, expelled and threatened with black listings by coordinated pro Israeli groups. Biden and Harris support these actions. This stopped all criticism of Israel on college campuses. This is an Israeli war so no criticism will be allowed or you will be arrested, expelled or threatened with black listings if you protest this war. There is no right to criticize Israel in this country. The establishment democrats enforce these rules.

Look at what the establishment democrats are spending all their time on in the middle of this war - silencing and black listing Hasan Piker. This is why there are no democrats oppose this war. Opposition to this war means you are antisemitic and will feel the full force of the law and establishment democrats.

Now just because you were able to use the government to silence criticism of Israel does not mean people now like Israel. It’s quite the opposite. The establishment democrats will not be able to survive the coming wave if they support Israel.

Are those the facts you are talking about?

+1.

I hate it when people post crap about the protests. The UCLA protesters were even physically attacked for hours while the police stood by and did nothing. Only one person was charged in those attacks and they received mandatory therapy as their punishment. And you expect these people to come out? For what? To be thrown under the bus again by the democratic establishment?
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We have an opposition party! They should stand up and do something!

And don't forget the scumbag former IOF "student" at Columbia who sprayed something on protesters. Had a Pro-Palestine protester so much as put a droplet of water on that baby-killer, it would've been called a "pogrom" by MSM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is Kushner there to represent Israel or the US in these talks?

Remember he also reps Saudi with that 3 billion retainer. The only thing for sure is he does not rep the US.

No clearance, no official title with the administration and is not employed by the US government. Iran has said they do not want to beal with him because he is an agent if Israel and he does not understand anything.

I don't know if you guys just don't know enough or what, but Saudis do not actually benefit from any of this in the end. They're servile dogs w/ no real power. Just a checkbook and a traitorous, corrupt leader who literally has a pic w/ Epstein. The difference between Isr and SA, is that you will not find the Saudi civilian population to be bloodthirsty for any of this the way you will the israelis.

It's called diplomacy and jockeying for long-term influence in the Middle East, PP. Of course the Saudis benefit from good relations with their neighbors, and the US, whom it sees as a superpower who is active in the region, due to oil, and due to its ties with Israel. If you see Superpower Number 1 being all pally with Israel, and you live in the same region, it behooves you to also be chummy with the US, to ensure that not every privilege flies to Israel and that there is a balance of power. The Saudis are past master in this and have been doing it to several Presidential administrations. Qatar and the UAE have more recently gotten in on it too. Jordan wields soft power due to its photogenic monarchy. They're all trying to play nice.

Iran is the pariah in the Middle East. Not Israel. Saudis want a marriage of convenience with the West and the Israelis. No one wants to be friends with Iran, because they're poor and incredibly rigid in their extremism. Israel has the bomb and the support of the West (however unearned!).

Interestingly, if Iran develops a nuclear weapon, all the Muslims countries will be a lot more circumspect with it

It's all of a game of power, and what I find hilarious is that of all the nations involved, it's Iran who sticks to its values (horrific though they may be) through thick and thin. The rest couldn't care less about morals and principles. They follow the money and influence.

Because Iran is poor??? lol

For what reason? And for how much longer?

Utter stupidity when its future-term allies are better positioned in the area than Israel or Saudi Arabia.

The GCC will have no choice but to ally with Iran or bend the knee in the future.

Iran produces scientists and mathematicians. Arabs produce what?

The most productive period for science and math was during the height of Islamic power (sans western intervention). The Quran itself embraces science while Europe was burning pp at the stake for daring to challenge the concept of the earth being the center of the universe.

It's so weird when pur-jhee-yans do this thing where they pit Iranians against Arabs like the former is "western." You guys are so proud of being Iranians you go and get some of the worst nose jobs to look more "European." No one is looking at someone who is Iranian and thinking you aren't the same as Arabs, so get over yourself. It's why a Sikh was killed after 9/11. There are no distinctions made among non-white people. Are you trying to be like the Hindutva who think hating Muslims suddenly makes them acceptable to western chauvinists?

FYI, Gaza and the West Bank had a higher literacy rate than the US and Israel. Now imagine what could've been accomplished had the f***ing israelis never darkened the doorstep of every Palestinian family.

You don't even know to make a distinction between the gulf states and the levant

The point was about the Arabs and Persians now, not 100s or 1000s of years ago. Iranians are prolific producers of academics while the Arabs hang out in casinos. Yes, blame it on the proximity to Israel but that's the truth. Iran will turn into *the* regional power player in no time. Robert Pape has already asserted that they are now the 4th pole in the world alongside the US, Russia, and China.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Democrats are, once again, punting on what to do about Israel.
DNC members rejected a symbolic resolution to limit the influence of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and dark-money corporate groups in Democratic primaries — an unsurprising result that is nevertheless a blow to those within the party that have been infuriated by the pro-Israel group’s recent interventions

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/09/democrats-punt-israel-aipac-resolutions-00865426

Wow the establishment dems in the pocket of Israel.

Democrats learned nothing from the last election. They continue to be on the wrong side of history in their support of Israel and its lobbies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is Kushner there to represent Israel or the US in these talks?

Remember he also reps Saudi with that 3 billion retainer. The only thing for sure is he does not rep the US.

No clearance, no official title with the administration and is not employed by the US government. Iran has said they do not want to beal with him because he is an agent if Israel and he does not understand anything.

I don't know if you guys just don't know enough or what, but Saudis do not actually benefit from any of this in the end. They're servile dogs w/ no real power. Just a checkbook and a traitorous, corrupt leader who literally has a pic w/ Epstein. The difference between Isr and SA, is that you will not find the Saudi civilian population to be bloodthirsty for any of this the way you will the israelis.

It's called diplomacy and jockeying for long-term influence in the Middle East, PP. Of course the Saudis benefit from good relations with their neighbors, and the US, whom it sees as a superpower who is active in the region, due to oil, and due to its ties with Israel. If you see Superpower Number 1 being all pally with Israel, and you live in the same region, it behooves you to also be chummy with the US, to ensure that not every privilege flies to Israel and that there is a balance of power. The Saudis are past master in this and have been doing it to several Presidential administrations. Qatar and the UAE have more recently gotten in on it too. Jordan wields soft power due to its photogenic monarchy. They're all trying to play nice.

Iran is the pariah in the Middle East. Not Israel. Saudis want a marriage of convenience with the West and the Israelis. No one wants to be friends with Iran, because they're poor and incredibly rigid in their extremism. Israel has the bomb and the support of the West (however unearned!).

Interestingly, if Iran develops a nuclear weapon, all the Muslims countries will be a lot more circumspect with it

It's all of a game of power, and what I find hilarious is that of all the nations involved, it's Iran who sticks to its values (horrific though they may be) through thick and thin. The rest couldn't care less about morals and principles. They follow the money and influence.

Because Iran is poor??? lol

For what reason? And for how much longer?

Utter stupidity when its future-term allies are better positioned in the area than Israel or Saudi Arabia.

The GCC will have no choice but to ally with Iran or bend the knee in the future.

Iran produces scientists and mathematicians. Arabs produce what?

The most productive period for science and math was during the height of Islamic power (sans western intervention). The Quran itself embraces science while Europe was burning pp at the stake for daring to challenge the concept of the earth being the center of the universe.

It's so weird when pur-jhee-yans do this thing where they pit Iranians against Arabs like the former is "western." You guys are so proud of being Iranians you go and get some of the worst nose jobs to look more "European." No one is looking at someone who is Iranian and thinking you aren't the same as Arabs, so get over yourself. It's why a Sikh was killed after 9/11. There are no distinctions made among non-white people. Are you trying to be like the Hindutva who think hating Muslims suddenly makes them acceptable to western chauvinists?

FYI, Gaza and the West Bank had a higher literacy rate than the US and Israel. Now imagine what could've been accomplished had the f***ing israelis never darkened the doorstep of every Palestinian family.

You don't even know to make a distinction between the gulf states and the levant

They’re doing this for the same
Reason Jesus is painted as a white man with blue eyes even though the Bible says he was a bearded shepherd in white robe and sandals with skin of bronze and a mother who was veiled in a hijab.

There’s nothing about modern day Israel that even resembles the Jews of yesteryear. That region is ancient and shouldn’t be genocided by Christian Zionists especially. Do those idiots know the Three wise men came from Yemen/arabia and Iran? They were Zoroastrian

[Anonymous]

Trump started a war with Iran to distract from the Epstein files.

Things have gone so poorly with Iran that they are now using the Epstein files to distract from Iran.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is Kushner there to represent Israel or the US in these talks?

Remember he also reps Saudi with that 3 billion retainer. The only thing for sure is he does not rep the US.

No clearance, no official title with the administration and is not employed by the US government. Iran has said they do not want to beal with him because he is an agent if Israel and he does not understand anything.

I don't know if you guys just don't know enough or what, but Saudis do not actually benefit from any of this in the end. They're servile dogs w/ no real power. Just a checkbook and a traitorous, corrupt leader who literally has a pic w/ Epstein. The difference between Isr and SA, is that you will not find the Saudi civilian population to be bloodthirsty for any of this the way you will the israelis.

It's called diplomacy and jockeying for long-term influence in the Middle East, PP. Of course the Saudis benefit from good relations with their neighbors, and the US, whom it sees as a superpower who is active in the region, due to oil, and due to its ties with Israel. If you see Superpower Number 1 being all pally with Israel, and you live in the same region, it behooves you to also be chummy with the US, to ensure that not every privilege flies to Israel and that there is a balance of power. The Saudis are past master in this and have been doing it to several Presidential administrations. Qatar and the UAE have more recently gotten in on it too. Jordan wields soft power due to its photogenic monarchy. They're all trying to play nice.

Iran is the pariah in the Middle East. Not Israel. Saudis want a marriage of convenience with the West and the Israelis. No one wants to be friends with Iran, because they're poor and incredibly rigid in their extremism. Israel has the bomb and the support of the West (however unearned!).

Interestingly, if Iran develops a nuclear weapon, all the Muslims countries will be a lot more circumspect with it

It's all of a game of power, and what I find hilarious is that of all the nations involved, it's Iran who sticks to its values (horrific though they may be) through thick and thin. The rest couldn't care less about morals and principles. They follow the money and influence.

Because Iran is poor??? lol

For what reason? And for how much longer?

Utter stupidity when its future-term allies are better positioned in the area than Israel or Saudi Arabia.

The GCC will have no choice but to ally with Iran or bend the knee in the future.

Iran produces scientists and mathematicians. Arabs produce what?

The most productive period for science and math was during the height of Islamic power (sans western intervention). The Quran itself embraces science while Europe was burning pp at the stake for daring to challenge the concept of the earth being the center of the universe.

It's so weird when pur-jhee-yans do this thing where they pit Iranians against Arabs like the former is "western." You guys are so proud of being Iranians you go and get some of the worst nose jobs to look more "European." No one is looking at someone who is Iranian and thinking you aren't the same as Arabs, so get over yourself. It's why a Sikh was killed after 9/11. There are no distinctions made among non-white people. Are you trying to be like the Hindutva who think hating Muslims suddenly makes them acceptable to western chauvinists?

FYI, Gaza and the West Bank had a higher literacy rate than the US and Israel. Now imagine what could've been accomplished had the f***ing israelis never darkened the doorstep of every Palestinian family.

You don't even know to make a distinction between the gulf states and the levant

The point was about the Arabs and Persians now, not 100s or 1000s of years ago. Iranians are prolific producers of academics while the Arabs hang out in casinos. Yes, blame it on the proximity to Israel but that's the truth. Iran will turn into *the* regional power player in no time. Robert Pape has already asserted that they are now the 4th pole in the world alongside the US, Russia, and China.

Al Jazeera alone is more well known household name than anything Iran or even Israel has produced. Arab academics are in higher number in Ivy League and other institutions. For some reason, people think Arabs as cartoon characters and as rich oil sheiks with harems of women partying their trust fund away. There’s literally only a handful of ruling families like this. The rest are everyday people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Democrats are, once again, punting on what to do about Israel.
DNC members rejected a symbolic resolution to limit the influence of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and dark-money corporate groups in Democratic primaries — an unsurprising result that is nevertheless a blow to those within the party that have been infuriated by the pro-Israel group’s recent interventions

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/09/democrats-punt-israel-aipac-resolutions-00865426

Wow the establishment dems in the pocket of Israel.

Establishment dems were smart enough not to start a war with iran at the behest of Netanyahu, so you can stop bleating about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump started a war with Iran to distract from the Epstein files.

Things have gone so poorly with Iran that they are now using the Epstein files to distract from Iran.

I bet Netanyahu is threatening to drop something Epstein related is Trump doesn't obey and Melania is trying to get ahead of it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Support in Israel for ethnic cleansing of Gaza (82%), support for starvation in Gaza (68%) and support for war on Iran (93%) are all MAJORITY opinions among Jewish Israelis.

Statistics like this should remind the world why it's not a Netanyahu problem but an Israel problem which at the heart of it a Zionism/ethnosupremicism problem.

You mean unsourced statistics? When will you people learn to include citations?

https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/poll-show-most-jewish-israelis-support-expelling-gazans

Many Israelis say Netanyahu isn't genocidal enough. Sick people.

[Anonymous]

Not just Israelis but their US supporters as well.

[Anonymous]

Iran forced Trump into a humiliating negotiation where Iran holds the highest cards and Trump is in a much worse situation than before the war. This is what defeat looks like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Pakistan does have some stability issues in the Pashtun areas bordering Afghanistan. That's to be expected because the Brits fked up the entire West, Central, and South Asian colonial regions with their racist and brutal divide and conquer hierarchies. But Pakistan has been way more reliable than Israel in making sure American soldiers and civilians aren't killed as invaders, meat shields, bait, or collateral damage.

Stop blaming the British - the brutal "divide and conquer" strategy and, frankly, racism, is exactly what the Muslim League employed to break up India and then through a campaign of rape and genocide, ethnically cleanse Northwest India to create "Pakistan".

As G. M. Syed himself said: "All Hindus shall be driven out of Sindh like the Jews from Germany."

The Pashtun areas are f--ked up because there used to be Hindu and Buddhist Pashtuns, but now they're all dead and the surviving Pashtuns are insane with ancestral trauma.

So stupid. The development and non-development, as well as the stability and instability, of whole continents is directly proportional to how much the Euros (and Americans) fked up each neighborhood during colonialism as well as the post-colonial "Jim Crow" meddling with dictator merry-go-rounds and post-colonial vestigial colonial economies. LA, N Africa, Sub-Saharan Africa, W Asia, Central Asia, S Asia, and E Asia. How stupid was it for literally some white guy to draw a line splitting up various large ethnic groups around the world so they spill over into two or three countries? Do the historical comparisons. I'm not super invested in every one of these areas but the pattern seems to hold.

And the muslims were discriminated against under British rule which was a big reason why the discontent with the Hindus existed.

hahaha - that's not at all true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Pakistan does have some stability issues in the Pashtun areas bordering Afghanistan. That's to be expected because the Brits fked up the entire West, Central, and South Asian colonial regions with their racist and brutal divide and conquer hierarchies. But Pakistan has been way more reliable than Israel in making sure American soldiers and civilians aren't killed as invaders, meat shields, bait, or collateral damage.

Stop blaming the British - the brutal "divide and conquer" strategy and, frankly, racism, is exactly what the Muslim League employed to break up India and then through a campaign of rape and genocide, ethnically cleanse Northwest India to create "Pakistan".

As G. M. Syed himself said: "All Hindus shall be driven out of Sindh like the Jews from Germany."

The Pashtun areas are f--ked up because there used to be Hindu and Buddhist Pashtuns, but now they're all dead and the surviving Pashtuns are insane with ancestral trauma.

So stupid. The development and non-development, as well as the stability and instability, of whole continents is directly proportional to how much the Euros (and Americans) fked up each neighborhood during colonialism as well as the post-colonial "Jim Crow" meddling with dictator merry-go-rounds and post-colonial vestigial colonial economies. LA, N Africa, Sub-Saharan Africa, W Asia, Central Asia, S Asia, and E Asia. How stupid was it for literally some white guy to draw a line splitting up various large ethnic groups around the world so they spill over into two or three countries? Do the historical comparisons. I'm not super invested in every one of these areas but the pattern seems to hold.

And the muslims were discriminated against under British rule which was a big reason why the discontent with the Hindus existed.

And meanwhile most of the places where the white guys were kicked out are now struggling to keep up with the world but sure, let's keep blaming the white guys rather than addressing one domestic failure after another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Iran forced Trump into a humiliating negotiation where Iran holds the highest cards and Trump is in a much worse situation than before the war. This is what defeat looks like.

Aren’t you tired of winning??? All Trump does is win win win