War with Iran Part II

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Support in Israel for ethnic cleansing of Gaza (82%), support for starvation in Gaza (68%) and support for war on Iran (93%) are all MAJORITY opinions among Jewish Israelis.
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Anonymous wrote:Pakistan’s Defence Minister Khawaja Asif calling it like he sees it.

Israel ‘a curse for humanity’: Pakistan’s defence minister
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/4/9/iran-war-live-israel-kills-254-in-lebanon-shaking-trump-tehran-ceasefire?update=4478080

Pakistan’s Defence Minister Khawaja Asif has called Israel “evil and a curse for humanity” in a social media post, accusing it of committing “genocide” in Lebanon while peace negotiations are under way.

“Innocent citizens are being killed by Israel, first Gaza, then Iran and now Lebanon, bloodletting continues unabated,” he said.



Israel is evil and a curse for humanity, while peace talks are underway in Islamabad, genocide is being committed in Lebanon. Innocent citizens are being killed by Israel, first Gaza, then Iran and now Lebanon, bloodletting continues unabated. I hope and pray people who created this cancerous state on Palestinian land to get rid of European jews burn in hell.


I'm sorry, this is disgusting. Pakistan is an actual terrorist factory. They have no export business except terrorism. Pick someone else to criticize Western imperialism.


I'm French. We do acknowledge much of our brutal colonial past (while glossing over one of the worst slavery conditions in the Americas, which occurred in Haiti under French rule; and we tend to forget Stuff Napoleon Did). The French and British colonialist actions contributed in part to the creation of the state of Israel, while general antisemitism for centuries in Europe perpetuated the belief in the Jewish people that there should be a right to return to the promised land.

So. Pakistan is right on that point, but I notice this country and many other countries in the Middle East LOVE to continually bring this up, while actively training and funding terrorist cells. Hypocrites. There isn't much we can do at this point, as French and British, apart from helping to negotiate peace, and refusing to send weapons or military forces. EU governments work non-stop to identify and seize Islamic terrorists operating in their respective countries.


Yes, I agree with you. Notice how defensive everyone else got when Pakistan was called out. Tbh the only thing that would make a difference would be for EU countries and the United States to stop sending aid to Pakistan, because ALL of that aid money gets used for their terrorist camps, or bribes for generals and politicians, etc.

Sure, Israel definitely has its own issues that it needs to take responsibility for. But Pakistan, of all countries, should be the last one opening its mouth.
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Anonymous wrote:Is Kushner there to represent Israel or the US in these talks?


Remember he also reps Saudi with that 3 billion retainer. The only thing for sure is he does not rep the US.

No clearance, no official title with the administration and is not employed by the US government. Iran has said they do not want to beal with him because he is an agent if Israel and he does not understand anything.


I don't know if you guys just don't know enough or what, but Saudis do not actually benefit from any of this in the end. They're servile dogs w/ no real power. Just a checkbook and a traitorous, corrupt leader who literally has a pic w/ Epstein. The difference between Isr and SA, is that you will not find the Saudi civilian population to be bloodthirsty for any of this the way you will the israelis.


It's called diplomacy and jockeying for long-term influence in the Middle East, PP. Of course the Saudis benefit from good relations with their neighbors, and the US, whom it sees as a superpower who is active in the region, due to oil, and due to its ties with Israel. If you see Superpower Number 1 being all pally with Israel, and you live in the same region, it behooves you to also be chummy with the US, to ensure that not every privilege flies to Israel and that there is a balance of power. The Saudis are past master in this and have been doing it to several Presidential administrations. Qatar and the UAE have more recently gotten in on it too. Jordan wields soft power due to its photogenic monarchy. They're all trying to play nice.

Iran is the pariah in the Middle East. Not Israel. Saudis want a marriage of convenience with the West and the Israelis. No one wants to be friends with Iran, because they're poor and incredibly rigid in their extremism. Israel has the bomb and the support of the West (however unearned!).

Interestingly, if Iran develops a nuclear weapon, all the Muslims countries will be a lot more circumspect with it

It's all of a game of power, and what I find hilarious is that of all the nations involved, it's Iran who sticks to its values (horrific though they may be) through thick and thin. The rest couldn't care less about morals and principles. They follow the money and influence.



Because Iran is poor??? lol

For what reason? And for how much longer?

Utter stupidity when its future-term allies are better positioned in the area than Israel or Saudi Arabia.

The GCC will have no choice but to ally with Iran or bend the knee in the future.

Iran produces scientists and mathematicians. Arabs produce what?


Well Israel kills all the Arab nuclear scientists before they can really make a move. This happened all the time in Iraq and Syria and Egypt in the 80s and 1990s. Mossad has a vested interest in sabotaging the Arab image and ensuring Terror is that image. It’s succeeded to a degree but people are starting to see through all their illegal activities. At some point, one has to ask “If you don’t like the people/neighborhood, why live there?”
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Anonymous wrote:Support in Israel for ethnic cleansing of Gaza (82%), support for starvation in Gaza (68%) and support for war on Iran (93%) are all MAJORITY opinions among Jewish Israelis.


Statistics like this should remind the world why it's not a Netanyahu problem but an Israel problem which at the heart of it a Zionism/ethnosupremicism problem.
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Public opinion doesn’t matter.
What matters is what do the people who can donate $250 million want.
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Anonymous wrote:Pakistan’s Defence Minister Khawaja Asif calling it like he sees it.

Israel ‘a curse for humanity’: Pakistan’s defence minister
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/4/9/iran-war-live-israel-kills-254-in-lebanon-shaking-trump-tehran-ceasefire?update=4478080

Pakistan’s Defence Minister Khawaja Asif has called Israel “evil and a curse for humanity” in a social media post, accusing it of committing “genocide” in Lebanon while peace negotiations are under way.

“Innocent citizens are being killed by Israel, first Gaza, then Iran and now Lebanon, bloodletting continues unabated,” he said.



Israel is evil and a curse for humanity, while peace talks are underway in Islamabad, genocide is being committed in Lebanon. Innocent citizens are being killed by Israel, first Gaza, then Iran and now Lebanon, bloodletting continues unabated. I hope and pray people who created this cancerous state on Palestinian land to get rid of European jews burn in hell.


I'm sorry, this is disgusting. Pakistan is an actual terrorist factory. They have no export business except terrorism. Pick someone else to criticize Western imperialism.


Israeli aggression is not "Western Imperialism". It's Israeli imperialism.


Israel's aggression and relentless bombing of Lebanon is intentionally designed to completely destroy upcoming peace talks in Islamabad. The Zionist regime is the sole obstacle to global peace and stability.
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Pakistan does have some stability issues in the Pashtun areas bordering Afghanistan. That's to be expected because the Brits fked up the entire West, Central, and South Asian colonial regions with their racist and brutal divide and conquer hierarchies. But Pakistan has been way more reliable than Israel in making sure American soldiers and civilians aren't killed as invaders, meat shields, bait, or collateral damage.


Stop blaming the British - the brutal "divide and conquer" strategy and, frankly, racism, is exactly what the Muslim League employed to break up India and then through a campaign of rape and genocide, ethnically cleanse Northwest India to create "Pakistan".

As G. M. Syed himself said: "All Hindus shall be driven out of Sindh like the Jews from Germany."

The Pashtun areas are f--ked up because there used to be Hindu and Buddhist Pashtuns, but now they're all dead and the surviving Pashtuns are insane with ancestral trauma.
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Anonymous wrote:Support in Israel for ethnic cleansing of Gaza (82%), support for starvation in Gaza (68%) and support for war on Iran (93%) are all MAJORITY opinions among Jewish Israelis.


Statistics like this should remind the world why it's not a Netanyahu problem but an Israel problem which at the heart of it a Zionism/ethnosupremicism problem.


It’s an America problem. Israel would not be this bold and brave if America wasn’t fighting for them. Run a poll on War in Iran support if Israel/IDF was the one fighting.

America can easily make Israel a civilized peace wanting nation by stopping fighting wars on their behalf and at their behest. We don’t owe them anything. They owe us
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Anonymous wrote:Pakistan’s Defence Minister Khawaja Asif calling it like he sees it.

Israel ‘a curse for humanity’: Pakistan’s defence minister
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/4/9/iran-war-live-israel-kills-254-in-lebanon-shaking-trump-tehran-ceasefire?update=4478080

Pakistan’s Defence Minister Khawaja Asif has called Israel “evil and a curse for humanity” in a social media post, accusing it of committing “genocide” in Lebanon while peace negotiations are under way.

“Innocent citizens are being killed by Israel, first Gaza, then Iran and now Lebanon, bloodletting continues unabated,” he said.



Israel is evil and a curse for humanity, while peace talks are underway in Islamabad, genocide is being committed in Lebanon. Innocent citizens are being killed by Israel, first Gaza, then Iran and now Lebanon, bloodletting continues unabated. I hope and pray people who created this cancerous state on Palestinian land to get rid of European jews burn in hell.


I'm sorry, this is disgusting. Pakistan is an actual terrorist factory. They have no export business except terrorism. Pick someone else to criticize Western imperialism.


Israeli aggression is not "Western Imperialism". It's Israeli imperialism.


Israel does not just occupy the Middle East but they occupy the United States. We don’t have a government that works for us. When the President of the Us ignores the cia, pentagon, state dept all in favor of Israel and blasts his own MAGA influencers/ American podcasters journalists in favor of mark levin and Ben Shapiro, what do you call that? When the Us lies about its own ceasefire in order to cover for Israeli aggression in Lebanon breaking the ceasefire, what do you call that? When police can come to your door for First Amendment free speech “violations” for criticizing a foreign government not your own goverment, what is that called? Is that a government or is that tyranny/occupation? You tell me.

“Beware foreign entanglements” was George Washington’s parting words as president.

You can criticize Donald Trump in all 50 states. You can burn the American flag. You can’t do the same with Israel in some jurisdictions. This is called a slow walk to tyranny. Trump did not place his hand on the Bible during the last inauguration. He does not swear to protect the Us constitution and freedom
Because he’s not President of the US and he’s certainly not here to make America greater. When will MAGA wake up and realize he’s a Manchurian candidate? He was always Mossad’s horse not necessarily putin’s. In 2015/2015, Mossad helped Trump beat hillary
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Anonymous wrote:A lot of Israeli trolls trying to prevent peace on here tonight. Shame on you.


Oh, please. You pro-Iranian trolls seem deeply confused.


Most people can see that both Iran and Israel suck. What's relevant is how this stupid war has made things worse for the entire planet. And Israel and their influence over Trump is the single biggest reason for this disaster. So spare us if there's no sympathy for Israel. That is an ally that needs to be dropped and ostracized.
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Democrats are, once again, punting on what to do about Israel.
DNC members rejected a symbolic resolution to limit the influence of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and dark-money corporate groups in Democratic primaries — an unsurprising result that is nevertheless a blow to those within the party that have been infuriated by the pro-Israel group’s recent interventions

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/09/democrats-punt-israel-aipac-resolutions-00865426

Wow the establishment dems in the pocket of Israel.
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Anonymous wrote:Support in Israel for ethnic cleansing of Gaza (82%), support for starvation in Gaza (68%) and support for war on Iran (93%) are all MAJORITY opinions among Jewish Israelis.


Statistics like this should remind the world why it's not a Netanyahu problem but an Israel problem which at the heart of it a Zionism/ethnosupremicism problem.


You mean unsourced statistics? When will you people learn to include citations?


https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/poll-show-most-jewish-israelis-support-expelling-gazans
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Anonymous wrote:Is Kushner there to represent Israel or the US in these talks?


Remember he also reps Saudi with that 3 billion retainer. The only thing for sure is he does not rep the US.

No clearance, no official title with the administration and is not employed by the US government. Iran has said they do not want to beal with him because he is an agent if Israel and he does not understand anything.


I don't know if you guys just don't know enough or what, but Saudis do not actually benefit from any of this in the end. They're servile dogs w/ no real power. Just a checkbook and a traitorous, corrupt leader who literally has a pic w/ Epstein. The difference between Isr and SA, is that you will not find the Saudi civilian population to be bloodthirsty for any of this the way you will the israelis.


It's called diplomacy and jockeying for long-term influence in the Middle East, PP. Of course the Saudis benefit from good relations with their neighbors, and the US, whom it sees as a superpower who is active in the region, due to oil, and due to its ties with Israel. If you see Superpower Number 1 being all pally with Israel, and you live in the same region, it behooves you to also be chummy with the US, to ensure that not every privilege flies to Israel and that there is a balance of power. The Saudis are past master in this and have been doing it to several Presidential administrations. Qatar and the UAE have more recently gotten in on it too. Jordan wields soft power due to its photogenic monarchy. They're all trying to play nice.

Iran is the pariah in the Middle East. Not Israel. Saudis want a marriage of convenience with the West and the Israelis. No one wants to be friends with Iran, because they're poor and incredibly rigid in their extremism. Israel has the bomb and the support of the West (however unearned!).

Interestingly, if Iran develops a nuclear weapon, all the Muslims countries will be a lot more circumspect with it

It's all of a game of power, and what I find hilarious is that of all the nations involved, it's Iran who sticks to its values (horrific though they may be) through thick and thin. The rest couldn't care less about morals and principles. They follow the money and influence.



Because Iran is poor??? lol

For what reason? And for how much longer?

Utter stupidity when its future-term allies are better positioned in the area than Israel or Saudi Arabia.

The GCC will have no choice but to ally with Iran or bend the knee in the future.

Iran produces scientists and mathematicians. Arabs produce what?


The most productive period for science and math was during the height of Islamic power (sans western intervention). The Quran itself embraces science while Europe was burning pp at the stake for daring to challenge the concept of the earth being the center of the universe.

It's so weird when pur-jhee-yans do this thing where they pit Iranians against Arabs like the former is "western." You guys are so proud of being Iranians you go and get some of the worst nose jobs to look more "European." No one is looking at someone who is Iranian and thinking you aren't the same as Arabs, so get over yourself. It's why a Sikh was killed after 9/11. There are no distinctions made among non-white people. Are you trying to be like the Hindutva who think hating Muslims suddenly makes them acceptable to western chauvinists?

FYI, Gaza and the West Bank had a higher literacy rate than the US and Israel. Now imagine what could've been accomplished had the f***ing israelis never darkened the doorstep of every Palestinian family.

You don't even know to make a distinction between the gulf states and the levant

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Anonymous wrote:Pakistan’s Defence Minister Khawaja Asif calling it like he sees it.

Israel ‘a curse for humanity’: Pakistan’s defence minister
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/4/9/iran-war-live-israel-kills-254-in-lebanon-shaking-trump-tehran-ceasefire?update=4478080

Pakistan’s Defence Minister Khawaja Asif has called Israel “evil and a curse for humanity” in a social media post, accusing it of committing “genocide” in Lebanon while peace negotiations are under way.

“Innocent citizens are being killed by Israel, first Gaza, then Iran and now Lebanon, bloodletting continues unabated,” he said.



Israel is evil and a curse for humanity, while peace talks are underway in Islamabad, genocide is being committed in Lebanon. Innocent citizens are being killed by Israel, first Gaza, then Iran and now Lebanon, bloodletting continues unabated. I hope and pray people who created this cancerous state on Palestinian land to get rid of European jews burn in hell.


I'm sorry, this is disgusting. Pakistan is an actual terrorist factory. They have no export business except terrorism. Pick someone else to criticize Western imperialism.


Pakistan is led by a God damned CIA puppet, so is Syria. Pakistan, Syria, Afghanistan. etc etc etc. Are you seriously telling yourself the US isn't very reason they veome "terrorist factories."

Imran Khan wanted to actually improve Pakistan, but the US wouldn't have it!
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