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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Is Kushner there to represent Israel or the US in these talks? [/quote]

Remember he also reps Saudi with that 3 billion retainer. The only thing for sure is he does not rep the US.

No clearance, no official title with the administration and is not employed by the US government. Iran has said they do not want to beal with him because he is an agent if Israel and he does not understand anything. [/quote]

I don't know if you guys just don't know enough or what, but Saudis do not actually benefit from any of this in the end. They're servile dogs w/ no real power. Just a checkbook and a traitorous, corrupt leader who literally has a pic w/ Epstein. The difference between Isr and SA, is that you will not find the Saudi civilian population to be bloodthirsty for any of this the way you will the israelis.[/quote]

It's called diplomacy and jockeying for long-term influence in the Middle East, PP. Of course the Saudis benefit from good relations with their neighbors, and the US, whom it sees as a superpower who is active in the region, due to oil, and due to its ties with Israel. If you see Superpower Number 1 being all pally with Israel, and you live in the same region, it behooves you to also be chummy with the US, to ensure that not every privilege flies to Israel and that there is a balance of power. The Saudis are past master in this and have been doing it to several Presidential administrations. Qatar and the UAE have more recently gotten in on it too. Jordan wields soft power due to its photogenic monarchy. They're all trying to play nice.

Iran is the pariah in the Middle East. Not Israel. Saudis want a marriage of convenience with the West and the Israelis. No one wants to be friends with Iran, because they're poor and incredibly rigid in their extremism. Israel has the bomb and the support of the West (however unearned!).

Interestingly, if Iran develops a nuclear weapon, all the Muslims countries will be a lot more circumspect with it :-)

It's all of a game of power, and what I find hilarious is that of all the nations involved, it's Iran who sticks to its values (horrific though they may be) through thick and thin. The rest couldn't care less about morals and principles. They follow the money and influence.

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Because Iran is poor??? lol

For what reason? And for how much longer?

Utter stupidity when its future-term allies are better positioned in the area than Israel or Saudi Arabia.

The GCC will have no choice but to ally with Iran or bend the knee in the future.

Iran produces scientists and mathematicians. Arabs produce what?[/quote]

The most productive period for science and math was during the height of Islamic power (sans western intervention). The Quran itself embraces science while Europe was burning pp at the stake for daring to challenge the concept of the earth being the center of the universe.

It's so weird when pur-jhee-yans do this thing where they pit Iranians against Arabs like the former is "western." You guys are so proud of being Iranians you go and get some of the worst nose jobs to look more "European."  No one is looking at someone who is Iranian and thinking you aren't the same as Arabs, so get over yourself.  It's why a Sikh was killed after 9/11. There are no distinctions made among non-white people. Are you trying to be like the Hindutva who think hating Muslims suddenly makes them acceptable to western chauvinists?

FYI, Gaza and the West Bank had a higher literacy rate than the US and Israel.  Now imagine what could've been accomplished had the f***ing israelis never darkened the doorstep of every Palestinian family.

You don't even know to make a distinction between the gulf states and the levant

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They’re doing this for the same
Reason Jesus is painted as a white man with blue eyes even though the Bible says he was a bearded shepherd in white robe and sandals  with skin of bronze and a mother who was veiled in a hijab.

There’s nothing about modern day Israel that even resembles the Jews of yesteryear. That region is ancient and shouldn’t be genocided by Christian Zionists  especially. Do those idiots know the Three wise men came from Yemen/arabia and Iran? They were Zoroastrian [/quote]

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