Hunter Biden indicted on nine tax charges, adding to gun charges in special counsel probe

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Anonymous wrote:Some addicts say being sentenced to prison saved their lives. Some say the support from their families enabled them and made their drug addiction worse because they never faced any consequences.


I doubt he will get any prison time.
No priors. Non violent. President's son.

You could’ve stopped after nonviolent. I’ll add clean and sober for sometime now.

But MAGA Will threaten violence so I’m sure he’ll get maximum time.



Being the president's son is an important consideration. He has SS detail.
How would that work if he were imprisoned?
And, your last comment is just nasty and totally not true.

David Weiss specifically said that after the plea deal he received death threats. That’s why it was pulled back. Sorry you don’t like it but we had January 6. We all saw before our eyes. We also saw what happened in Michigan and numerous other counts of political violence from maga. Violence is now normalized by the right. Actually strike that it’s encouraged.

Cue “ Portland” in 3, 2, 1…

That’s not what happened at all. The plea deal fell apart under basic questioning by the judge and Hunter’s attorney walked away. It ended up being a bad decision.


Nope, the plea deal was rescinded when Trump unleashed MAGAs to threaten Weiss.


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I am furious about this. Who is in charge? Why didn't Garland act like the AG and do his job? Or Weiss turn his brain on?

Are we really a country that is run by idiotic MAGAs throwing fits? That is who is in charge of making decisions?
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Anonymous wrote:Also the FBI confirmed the laptop belonged to Hunter and evidence from the laptop was used at the trial. That means the FBI confirmed the stuff on the laptop belonged to Hunter and was not tampered with.



But the FBI is a corrupt organization and my hero Jim Jordan wants to defund it. Nothing they say has any credibility.


Sorry, Jim Jordan superfan; the FBI used the laptop as evidence. You and your Q buddies will have to accept that the FBI confirmed that the laptop belonged to Hunter and the contents are authentic. I think you should start asking this question: why did 50 high ranking intelligence officials sign their name to a letter that stated that the laptop was russian disinformation? That’s a bit dodgy.


Could you provide the transcript where the FBI states all of the contents of the laptop are authentic? TYIA.


“Prosecutors on Tuesday spent hours on Hunter Biden’s drug problem, using his own words and missives to show the depth of the addiction and to suggest it was still ongoing when he bought the gun. They showed jurors his old laptop computer, the same one he left at a Delaware repair shop and never retrieved. In 2020, the contents made their way to Republicans and were publicly leaked, revealing highly personal messages about his work and his life. He has since sued over the leaked information.

An FBI agent read aloud messages stored on his devices that chronicled a desperate effort to buy drugs. The data also included receipts for a detox facility he attended before relapsing and showed large cash withdrawals.


In one exchange with Hallie, the day after he bought the gun, she wrote: “I called you 500 times in past 24 hours.” Hunter replied less than a minute later, informing her that he was “sleeping on a car smoking crack on 4th street and Rodney.”

“There’s my truth,” he added in a follow-up text.

But during cross-examination, the FBI agent testified that Hunter Biden sent fewer messages about seeking drugs in October 2018, around the time when he purchased the gun, than in February 2019, a later period in which Lowell described his client as struggling significantly with addiction.“


https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-trial-federal-gun-charges-jury-477c0ca9d07afc1a52bd90ef6d2167cb

The FBI using the laptop as evidence is confirmation.


I'm not seeing any testimony saying that everything on the laptop is authentic. That was your claim.


That is the truth. Ask your husband about it when he gets home from work. He can explain it to you.


If it was true, you could you just cite the testimony. The fact that you cannot makes me think it is not true.


In June 2024, special counsel Weiss utilized the laptop, its contents, and an invoice from Isaac's repair shop as evidence in Biden's trial in Delaware, in which he is accused of purchasing a firearm despite knowing he was a drug user. Defense attorneys for Biden argued that they had "numerous reasons to believe the data had been altered and compromised before investigators obtained the electronic material", which Weiss described as "a conspiracy theory with no supporting evidence". Prosecutors stated that defense attorneys had not "provided any evidence or information that shows that his laptop contains false information". At the trial, the presiding judge sided with prosecutors and allowed for usage of the laptop as evidence.[91][92]

[91] The witness, FBI agent Erika Jensen, testified about the authenticity of Hunter Biden's laptop, which has been the subject of rumors and speculation online for years. Jensen said the laptop contained evidence of Hunter Biden's drug and gun purchase.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/live-blog/hunter-biden-trial-live-update-rcna155305


Special counsel plans to use infamous Hunter Biden laptop as evidence at gun trial


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Special counsel David Weiss plans to introduce Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop as evidence against him at his upcoming trial on felony gun charges.

Weiss made his intentions clear in a court filing Wednesday that also blasted Hunter Biden’s lawyers for questioning the laptop’s authenticity, which he called a “conspiracy theory.”


“The defendant’s laptop is real (it will be introduced as a trial exhibit) and it contains significant evidence of the defendant’s guilt,” prosecutors wrote in a Wednesday filing.


“Defense counsel has numerous reasons to believe the data had been altered and compromised before investigators obtained the electronic material,” his lawyers wrote.

“He has not shown any of the actual evidence in this case is unreliable or inauthentic, because there is none,” Weiss’ team wrote in a Wednesday filing. “Instead, the defendant’s theory about the laptop is a conspiracy theory with no supporting evidence.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/22/politics/hunter-biden-laptop-gun-trial-special-counsel/index.html

We have a new group to contend with: The Hunter Biden Laptop Conspiracy Truthers.

T.H.B.L.C.T. for short. Nickname: The Hunters. Always hunting for the truth about the laptop!

Get some shirts made up after you design a logo. I want to know when I am in the vicinity of one or more of you, so I can observe you in public.


Agent Jensen testified that the laptop had not been tampered with after the FBI took it into their possession. She specifically disclaimed any knowledge of what happened to it before that:

Q. You have no reason to believe the time the FBI acquired the data from Apple, or what you just described, they changed any part of it, right?

A. Forensic examiners?

Q. Yes, the FBI, they didn’t change anything that you know of, did they?

A. No, I have a small basis of my understanding of how they work, I know they do a lot — they create images files of what would be considered the original data, so it doesn’t change the original data, but beyond that, I’m providing what I know.

Q. And the material that came into evidence that you discussed with Mr. Hines yesterday, as far as you know is the way the FBI obtained it?

A. Yes.

Q. And you indicated what you know about what they did with it, but you have no reason to believe the material that you just described yesterday, and I asked you about today, had been changed, altered, it was authentic as you understood it?

A. What I can speak to is when we obtain the data.

Q. Yes?

A. It was authentic from that point forward.

Q. And then when you provided it to us in discovery, discovery meaning you provided material to the defense, that’s the way it was sent, in the same way that you retrieved it?

A. My understanding is you received copies both of our extraction reports and of the full forensic images of the original data.

Q. I think you said, I don’t know that you identified, that as to the device, the laptop, it came into the possession of the government in December of 2019?

A. Yes.

Q. You understand that from the invoice that you showed about a repair shop that it was brought, according to the owner, in April of that year?

A. Yes. The invoice is dated in April.

Q. So can you tell what happened between the time the invoice indicates that device was brought to the shop and when the FBI acquired it six months later?

A. No.

Q. You are aware from your investigation that the person who claims to have gotten it in April indicates he made copies —

MR. HINES: Objection.

MR. LOWELL: I’ll withdraw the question.

THE COURT: Sustained.

BY MR. LOWELL: Q. Will you put up government Exhibit 40? So this is an invoice you identified yesterday, and I referred to, dated the 17th; right?

A. Yes.

Q. And you indicated that that’s one of the things you obtained from the data that was recovered and that was extracted and that you had reviewed?

A. Yes.

Q. And the date of this is the 17th; right?

A. The date of the e-mail is the 17th.

Q. But you know from your investigation that the person who sent this indicates that he got this device five days before?

A. I know from the investigation that yes, it was reported that it was April 12th.

Q. Do you have any notion of what happened in that device between April he 12th, where your investigation indicates that’s when the person acquired it, and April 17th when he sent the invoice?

A. I have some knowledge, but it’s through somebody else’s statements.

Q. So no firsthand knowledge?

A. No firsthand knowledge.

Q. Now, the last point on this. If the person acquired it in April, and the FBI says it acquired that in December, six months later, did your investigation indicate whether what was put on that machine in April was the way it was originally done by Hunter before then?

A. I’m sorry, ask that one more time.

Q. I didn’t say that right. Benchmarks. April 2019, the person says “I got the device.” Right?

A. Yes.

Q. December of 2019, the FBI acquires it?

A. Yes.

Q. What I’m asking is, did you do an analysis to determine whether on the date that this person says he got it, the data he got was in the format, content, or in any way what had originally been put there by Mr. Biden?

A. You’re asking if on the 12th the person that received it?

Q. I’m asking whatever that person got on the 12th, was the way it was originally put, do you know? Did you do an analysis? Did you find out whether any of the files had been tampered with, added to, or subtracted?

A. I did not. Right, I did not.
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Anonymous wrote:Guess Hunter will have to suspend his campaign now.


This.
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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing that MAGA just doesn’t get:

Hunter won’t be pardoned.
No one will threaten the judge or jury.
There is no connection to Joe Biden. None.

Was it a political prosecution? Maybe, but no one is threatening to burn down the judiciary because Hunter was tried and convicted by a jury.


Correct. There is no connection to Joe Biden for the drug related offenses.

Now, for the tax evasion, Burisma and money laundering, there is.

No, there isn't. Comer and Jordan have been chasing that mirage for years and have NOTHNG to show for it. It's great theater though, which is really its only purpose.
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So she didn’t know what exactly happened to it before the FBI got it.
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Anonymous wrote:So she didn’t know what exactly happened to it before the FBI got it.


And she also did no analysis to try to figure it out.
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Anonymous wrote:So she didn’t know what exactly happened to it before the FBI got it.


And she also did no analysis to try to figure it out.


And Hunter’s legal team didn’t do any analysis to show any evidence the laptop was tampered with.

You know why? Because they would have spent a boatload of cash on a useless analysis because Hunter told his attorneys that was his laptop.
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The laptop has not now nor has ever been authenticated.
The prosecution used some authenticated data from the Lap top.

Those are different things.
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Anonymous wrote:So she didn’t know what exactly happened to it before the FBI got it.


This is crazy. Some random guy had Hunter's laptop for six months before the FBI got ahold of it. The FBI apparently did no analysis to verify that the laptop was not tampered with in those intervening six months - the FBI's expert could not confirm that it was the original laptop as last used by Hunted Biden.

How the hell was this allowed into evidence????
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Anonymous wrote:So she didn’t know what exactly happened to it before the FBI got it.


And she also did no analysis to try to figure it out.


And Hunter’s legal team didn’t do any analysis to show any evidence the laptop was tampered with.

You know why? Because they would have spent a boatload of cash on a useless analysis because Hunter told his attorneys that was his laptop.


Dp- disingenuous. Hunter may have known the data the prosecution was using in this case to be factual. Maybe.
That doesn’t mean the entirety of the lap top to be authentic.
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Maga movement grasping at straws because their talking point about political witch hunt by the current admin is out the window. Love to see it.
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Raise your hand if you think Junior or Ewick would accept the verdict without lighting their toys on fire.

Yeah, me either.
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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing that MAGA just doesn’t get:

Hunter won’t be pardoned.
No one will threaten the judge or jury.
There is no connection to Joe Biden. None.

Was it a political prosecution? Maybe, but no one is threatening to burn down the judiciary because Hunter was tried and convicted by a jury.


Correct. There is no connection to Joe Biden for the drug related offenses.

Now, for the tax evasion, Burisma and money laundering, there is.

No, there isn't. Comer and Jordan have been chasing that mirage for years and have NOTHNG to show for it. It's great theater though, which is really its only purpose.


Even Politico is covering it now.

Biden insists he’s not involved in his family’s business dealings. But his aides are a different story.

The overlapping roles are under scrutiny as the president distances himself from his family’s dealings.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/08/joe-biden-aides-family-business-dealings-00161476
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Anonymous wrote:So she didn’t know what exactly happened to it before the FBI got it.


And she also did no analysis to try to figure it out.


And Hunter’s legal team didn’t do any analysis to show any evidence the laptop was tampered with.

You know why? Because they would have spent a boatload of cash on a useless analysis because Hunter told his attorneys that was his laptop.


Great, glad you've now conceded that the FBI agent did not in fact testify to the authenticity of everything on "the laptop."
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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the thing that MAGA just doesn’t get:

Hunter won’t be pardoned.
No one will threaten the judge or jury.
There is no connection to Joe Biden. None.

Was it a political prosecution? Maybe, but no one is threatening to burn down the judiciary because Hunter was tried and convicted by a jury.


Correct. There is no connection to Joe Biden for the drug related offenses.

Now, for the tax evasion, Burisma and money laundering, there is.

No, there isn't. Comer and Jordan have been chasing that mirage for years and have NOTHNG to show for it. It's great theater though, which is really its only purpose.

There is no direct link but it’s hard not to read something like this and have your eyebrows raised.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/08/joe-biden-aides-family-business-dealings-00161476
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