Republicans and the debt ceiling
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Anonymous
Being out maneuvered politically is the central core of the modern democratic party |
Anonymous
| It doesn't help that the media (even those the right suggests are left-leaning) always favor the GOP side of forcing cuts in spending without ever suggesting the idea that the GOP compromise on raising taxes or at least letting the 2017 tax cut scheme expire. |
Anonymous
Left leaning media is still owned by corporations and controlled by individuals who greatly benefit from tax cuts. |
Anonymous
Yep they will not take action to remove Clarence Thomas or do anything on abortion rights but they bend over backwards to please republicans. 
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Anonymous
Like CNN and John Malone. |
Anonymous
They need 60 votes in the senate for either. |
Anonymous
Maybe they should just threaten to default unless the GOP agrees to remove him and protect abortion rights. |
Anonymous
The fact that they can't get 60 votes shows that the Senate Republicans are every bit as corrupt as Clarence Thomas. |
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Will Biden be forced to invoke the 14th amendment?
Such a shame Biden forced to miss security meetings with Australia, Japan and India to discuss dealing with threats from China in SE Asia - Pacific region … From daily newsletter by historian Heather Cox Richardson The debt ceiling is not about future spending, it is about paying bills Congress has already incurred. If it comes to that, failing to raise the debt ceiling—the amount of money the Treasury can borrow to meet its obligations—so that Republicans, led by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), can get concessions they cannot win through normal legislative procedures, will be an unforced error of truly epic proportions, a larger version of undercutting years of work building U.S. standing in the Indo-Pacific region. Senate Democrats have begun to push for honoring the nation’s debts without trying to bring Republicans along. They are circulating a letter urging President Biden to invoke the fourth section of the Fourteenth Amendment to override the debt ceiling. That section reads: “The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.” Republican congressmen wrote that section to prevent Democratic opponents, who hated the newly powerful government that had won the Civil War, from changing the terms of repayment of the debt. Democrats called for turning gold interest payments into payments in paper money. That change would have significantly degraded the value of the debt. It would also have destroyed confidence in the government, a result those who had just lost the Civil War quite liked. Congress intended the Fourteenth Amendment to assert the power of the federal government over the states once and for all, making sure that no one could discriminate against individuals within the states or make war on the United States from within. It was an attempt to make it impossible for those trying to destroy the nation to carry out their plans. Senator Peter Welch (D-VT) told Burgess Everett and Sarah Ferris of Politico. “It’s not about being comfortable with Biden or anyone else. It’s about the House. Kevin’s in shackles. He’s in leg, arms and hand cuffs. And frankly I don’t think he’s got much capacity to negotiate. And very little capacity to advance a deal.” Welch, who served eight terms in the House before moving to the Senate in 2023, added, “I’m quite pessimistic about McCarthy. He’s very constrained…. I think we’re heading toward a decision on the 14th Amendment.” Interestingly, Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) has indicated he’s on board with the idea of Biden invoking the Fourteenth Amendment. “I think if I were president, I would be tempted” to use the Fourteenth Amendment, Hawley said. “Because I would just be like, ‘Listen, I’m not gonna let us default. So end of story. Y’all will do whatever you want to do.’ But I’m not necessarily giving him that advice. It’s against my interest.” Hawley’s defense of the idea suggests that Republicans are eager to find a solution to the crisis that does not involve them, so that they can then condemn the Democrats for whatever they do. |
Anonymous
And when they have 60 votes they will need 75 votes. If only it was not written in to the constitution that the senate needed 60 votes to get anything done. |
Anonymous
Bet the dems will still agree to all McCarthy demands. You know because they are such great negotiators…lol |
Anonymous
Haha - except to jam a right wing Catholic Justice onto the Supreme Court in a matter of weeks. |
Anonymous
At this point what alternative do they have if the RWNJs won’t bend? Not paying the government bills will be disastrous for the economy, America’s financial standing and the vast majority of Americans … |
Anonymous
I am not following you - why would invoking the 14th amendment require 75 votes? Enlighten me please. |
Anonymous
+1. WTAF. |