Amy Robach and TJ Holmes relationship

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Anonymous wrote:Gotta burn that his replacement is hotter!

What are you on? Neither TJ nor this guy have much sex appeal, but TJ is MUCH more handsome.

The new anchor doesn’t have a pompous attitude like TJ has.
He comes off as a lot more wholesome, personable and friendly than TJ was.
I think he is much more attractive and clean cut.

^Lord, the dog whistles.

They're both black though. How does that work?

So, what you’re saying is that you think the fact that the new guy is Black negates your dog whistles (pompous, clean cut) about TJ Holmes??

It doesn’t.

Let me explain: Many white people prefer their Black men to be less arrogant and ”clean.”

We see you, PP.

NP. I prefer every man to be less arrogant and clean. Your post is the one seeping of racism. You claim to know what a collective group of people of people want from black men. How stupid and arrogant. You later say you don’t care how TJ treated his wife and child because racism affects you more. Guess what? According to you, racism doesn’t affect me. So using your own logic, I don’t care about your “dog whistles.”

I suspect you are the perpetual victim.

NP all together here.

Let’s be clear. A PP referred to the replacement as less pompous more clean cut than TJ. We are not referring to his cheating at all, let’s be clear.

Pompous can be subjective.

Clean-cut less so and is often used a a dog whistle to refer to black men as un-groomed or dirty.

Clean-cut: appearance of neatness.

I am the poster that first posted the handsome pics of the replacement. He is a handsome fella. As is TJ. Okay, both those statements are subjective to the eye of the beholder.

But, nobody can say TJ was not clean-cut.

By saying so, it says more about the poster than TJ.

Yes, TJ is a horrible cheater and his behavior is reprehensible regardless of the race of his wife.
Amy is also a horrible cheater and her behavior is also reprehensible.

Amy is clean-cut.
TJ is clean-cut.
Demarco is clean-cut.

Get it?

Exactly. Thank you.

I've never heard that the description clean cut was racist. At all.

I say this with without snark. Just because you haven’t heard about it before doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. There are so very many micro aggressions that white folks will never be privy to and that’s great to you that you don’t have to walk through life being aware of them. It’s really great for your kids. The key part of being an ally means to just listen. When black folk tell you something is offensive, believe them. Don’t question it with, “well I’ve never heard it before from any of my black friends, so it must not be true.”

Even if you don’t want to be an intentional ally, you never know when your kid might bring home a black spouse with black family members. Or you may have a black boss one day. We are giving you solid advice.

1. Don’t refer to black people as clean or clean cut. Even when comparing them to another black person.
2. Don’t say a black person speaks well. Or that they’re really smart (with a surprising delivery)
3. Don’t say things like “she’s really pretty for having darker skin.”

The sad reality is that black men and women still suffer from so many microaggressions and dog whistle racist acts and words. Research Jezebel and Mandingo archetypes. Add that to actual bad behavior like policing and schooling while black, it’s no wonder black have heart disease at disproportionate rates. If you can make the journey easier for folks by not using words that can have hidden meaning and inferences, let’s try not.

I will leave you with this commercial that puts things in perspective. The hope is that one can be outraged by seeing a black man as being looked at as dirty and unclean miraculously turning into a clean cut Asian man that is now desirable.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/watch-racist-laundry-detergent-ad-shows-african-american-m-article-1.2651036

PP here. Yes, I'm a white female. I've worked in school systems with many Black teachers, coaches, and admonistrators. I have two family members who have Black husbands i get that "speaks well" and "clean" sound demeaning. "Clean cut" doesn't mean "clean."

Ok, this is the hill you want to die on. Please, Ms I have black friends, continue to tell your son’s black basketball coach that he’s “so clean-cut”.

And while we are at it, since you’re the clean-cut expert, please tell me what about TJ makes him clean-cut.

Clean-cut: the appearance of neatness.

Your sarcasm and derision are duly noted. Have a great evening.

[Anonymous]

I can’t express how happy I am that I’m not the only one explaining this to the resident I-have-Black-friends DCUM posters.

Thank you, PPs.

There is literally nothing unkempt about TJ Holmes.

Lord.

[Anonymous]

I Don’t find TJ attractive at all and he looks old for his age. Amy looks better than him and she is older.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t express how happy I am that I’m not the only one explaining this to the resident I-have-Black-friends DCUM posters.

Thank you, PPs.

There is literally nothing unkempt about TJ Holmes.

Lord.

I don't recall anyone saying TJ Holmes wasn't clean-cut. He is. So is his replacement. The term means put together well in a more conservative business type attire. Same goes for Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Gavin Newsom, etc. It's a "look," as opposed to Ben Affleck, Lil Wayne, Mick Jagger, and those who look more purposefully casual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t express how happy I am that I’m not the only one explaining this to the resident I-have-Black-friends DCUM posters.

Thank you, PPs.

There is literally nothing unkempt about TJ Holmes.

Lord.

Would you prefer to be communicating with people who have no Black friends or family members so you can dismiss them all as racist? That's what you sound like. People have criticized TJ Holmes AND Amy Robach for their behavior and callous treatment of their spouses, not for being unkempt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t express how happy I am that I’m not the only one explaining this to the resident I-have-Black-friends DCUM posters.

Thank you, PPs.

There is literally nothing unkempt about TJ Holmes.

Lord.

I don't recall anyone saying TJ Holmes wasn't clean-cut. He is. So is his replacement. The term means put together well in a more conservative business type attire. Same goes for Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Gavin Newsom, etc. It's a "look," as opposed to Ben Affleck, Lil Wayne, Mick Jagger, and those who look more purposefully casual.

Here is the quote.
12/13/2022 02:27
“ The new anchor doesn’t have a pompous attitude like TJ has.
He comes off as a lot more wholesome, personable and friendly than TJ was.
I think he is much more attractive and clean cut.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gotta burn that his replacement is hotter!

What are you on? Neither TJ nor this guy have much sex appeal, but TJ is MUCH more handsome.

The new anchor doesn’t have a pompous attitude like TJ has.
He comes off as a lot more wholesome, personable and friendly than TJ was.
I think he is much more attractive and clean cut.

^Lord, the dog whistles.

They're both black though. How does that work?

So, what you’re saying is that you think the fact that the new guy is Black negates your dog whistles (pompous, clean cut) about TJ Holmes??

It doesn’t.

Let me explain: Many white people prefer their Black men to be less arrogant and ”clean.”

We see you, PP.

NP. I prefer every man to be less arrogant and clean. Your post is the one seeping of racism. You claim to know what a collective group of people of people want from black men. How stupid and arrogant. You later say you don’t care how TJ treated his wife and child because racism affects you more. Guess what? According to you, racism doesn’t affect me. So using your own logic, I don’t care about your “dog whistles.”

I suspect you are the perpetual victim.

NP all together here.

Let’s be clear. A PP referred to the replacement as less pompous more clean cut than TJ. We are not referring to his cheating at all, let’s be clear.

Pompous can be subjective.

Clean-cut less so and is often used a a dog whistle to refer to black men as un-groomed or dirty.

Clean-cut: appearance of neatness.

I am the poster that first posted the handsome pics of the replacement. He is a handsome fella. As is TJ. Okay, both those statements are subjective to the eye of the beholder.

But, nobody can say TJ was not clean-cut.

By saying so, it says more about the poster than TJ.

Yes, TJ is a horrible cheater and his behavior is reprehensible regardless of the race of his wife.
Amy is also a horrible cheater and her behavior is also reprehensible.

Amy is clean-cut.
TJ is clean-cut.
Demarco is clean-cut.

Get it?

Exactly. Thank you.

I've never heard that the description clean cut was racist. At all.

I say this with without snark. Just because you haven’t heard about it before doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. There are so very many micro aggressions that white folks will never be privy to and that’s great to you that you don’t have to walk through life being aware of them. It’s really great for your kids. The key part of being an ally means to just listen. When black folk tell you something is offensive, believe them. Don’t question it with, “well I’ve never heard it before from any of my black friends, so it must not be true.”

Even if you don’t want to be an intentional ally, you never know when your kid might bring home a black spouse with black family members. Or you may have a black boss one day. We are giving you solid advice.

1. Don’t refer to black people as clean or clean cut. Even when comparing them to another black person.
2. Don’t say a black person speaks well. Or that they’re really smart (with a surprising delivery)
3. Don’t say things like “she’s really pretty for having darker skin.”

The sad reality is that black men and women still suffer from so many microaggressions and dog whistle racist acts and words. Research Jezebel and Mandingo archetypes. Add that to actual bad behavior like policing and schooling while black, it’s no wonder black have heart disease at disproportionate rates. If you can make the journey easier for folks by not using words that can have hidden meaning and inferences, let’s try not.

I will leave you with this commercial that puts things in perspective. The hope is that one can be outraged by seeing a black man as being looked at as dirty and unclean miraculously turning into a clean cut Asian man that is now desirable.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/watch-racist-laundry-detergent-ad-shows-african-american-m-article-1.2651036

PP here. Yes, I'm a white female. I've worked in school systems with many Black teachers, coaches, and admonistrators. I have two family members who have Black husbands i get that "speaks well" and "clean" sound demeaning. "Clean cut" doesn't mean "clean."

Ok, this is the hill you want to die on. Please, Ms I have black friends, continue to tell your son’s black basketball coach that he’s “so clean-cut”.

And while we are at it, since you’re the clean-cut expert, please tell me what about TJ makes him clean-cut.

Clean-cut: the appearance of neatness.

Your sarcasm and derision are duly noted. Have a great evening.

Sarcasm only came in once you threw in that you have black associates and it’s okay to call a black man clean-cut, just not clean. I literally tried a very kind ally imploring post and you threw it out the window because you simply didn’t want to LISTEN. Listen to black people, please. Do you not want to use thugs moment as a leaning moment?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gotta burn that his replacement is hotter!

What are you on? Neither TJ nor this guy have much sex appeal, but TJ is MUCH more handsome.

The new anchor doesn’t have a pompous attitude like TJ has.
He comes off as a lot more wholesome, personable and friendly than TJ was.
I think he is much more attractive and clean cut.

^Lord, the dog whistles.

They're both black though. How does that work?

So, what you’re saying is that you think the fact that the new guy is Black negates your dog whistles (pompous, clean cut) about TJ Holmes??

It doesn’t.

Let me explain: Many white people prefer their Black men to be less arrogant and ”clean.”

We see you, PP.

NP. I prefer every man to be less arrogant and clean. Your post is the one seeping of racism. You claim to know what a collective group of people of people want from black men. How stupid and arrogant. You later say you don’t care how TJ treated his wife and child because racism affects you more. Guess what? According to you, racism doesn’t affect me. So using your own logic, I don’t care about your “dog whistles.”

I suspect you are the perpetual victim.

NP all together here.

Let’s be clear. A PP referred to the replacement as less pompous more clean cut than TJ. We are not referring to his cheating at all, let’s be clear.

Pompous can be subjective.

Clean-cut less so and is often used a a dog whistle to refer to black men as un-groomed or dirty.

Clean-cut: appearance of neatness.

I am the poster that first posted the handsome pics of the replacement. He is a handsome fella. As is TJ. Okay, both those statements are subjective to the eye of the beholder.

But, nobody can say TJ was not clean-cut.

By saying so, it says more about the poster than TJ.

Yes, TJ is a horrible cheater and his behavior is reprehensible regardless of the race of his wife.
Amy is also a horrible cheater and her behavior is also reprehensible.

Amy is clean-cut.
TJ is clean-cut.
Demarco is clean-cut.

Get it?

Exactly. Thank you.

I've never heard that the description clean cut was racist. At all.

I say this with without snark. Just because you haven’t heard about it before doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. There are so very many micro aggressions that white folks will never be privy to and that’s great to you that you don’t have to walk through life being aware of them. It’s really great for your kids. The key part of being an ally means to just listen. When black folk tell you something is offensive, believe them. Don’t question it with, “well I’ve never heard it before from any of my black friends, so it must not be true.”

Even if you don’t want to be an intentional ally, you never know when your kid might bring home a black spouse with black family members. Or you may have a black boss one day. We are giving you solid advice.

1. Don’t refer to black people as clean or clean cut. Even when comparing them to another black person.
2. Don’t say a black person speaks well. Or that they’re really smart (with a surprising delivery)
3. Don’t say things like “she’s really pretty for having darker skin.”

The sad reality is that black men and women still suffer from so many microaggressions and dog whistle racist acts and words. Research Jezebel and Mandingo archetypes. Add that to actual bad behavior like policing and schooling while black, it’s no wonder black have heart disease at disproportionate rates. If you can make the journey easier for folks by not using words that can have hidden meaning and inferences, let’s try not.

I will leave you with this commercial that puts things in perspective. The hope is that one can be outraged by seeing a black man as being looked at as dirty and unclean miraculously turning into a clean cut Asian man that is now desirable.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/watch-racist-laundry-detergent-ad-shows-african-american-m-article-1.2651036

PP here. Yes, I'm a white female. I've worked in school systems with many Black teachers, coaches, and admonistrators. I have two family members who have Black husbands i get that "speaks well" and "clean" sound demeaning. "Clean cut" doesn't mean "clean."

Ok, this is the hill you want to die on. Please, Ms I have black friends, continue to tell your son’s black basketball coach that he’s “so clean-cut”.

And while we are at it, since you’re the clean-cut expert, please tell me what about TJ makes him clean-cut.

Clean-cut: the appearance of neatness.

Your sarcasm and derision are duly noted. Have a great evening.

Sarcasm only came in once you threw in that you have black associates and it’s okay to call a black man clean-cut, just not clean. I literally tried a very kind ally imploring post and you threw it out the window because you simply didn’t want to LISTEN. Listen to black people, please. Do you not want to use thugs moment as a leaning moment?

*this, not thugs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t express how happy I am that I’m not the only one explaining this to the resident I-have-Black-friends DCUM posters.

Thank you, PPs.

There is literally nothing unkempt about TJ Holmes.

Lord.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the pp meant that the new host was less showy and flashy, down to earth, not arrogant, instead of TJ who is the opposite. My goodness, stay on track about this mess and please stop saying dog whistle, enough already. Stop giving what you feel is intent to the pp, you are there only one that feels that way.

And just to add to this.

There is no other synonym to clean-cut other that neat appearance. So no need to make up an excuse for that poster. Stop defending strangers on DCUM and listen to black people.

And you can’t tell people on DCUM of all places to stay on track. This track has taken many turns and in the end is none of any of our business. You don’t stay on track when someone says something offensive. You stop the track and call a spade a spade. Period.

Respectfully.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the pp meant that the new host was less showy and flashy, down to earth, not arrogant, instead of TJ who is the opposite. My goodness, stay on track about this mess and please stop saying dog whistle, enough already. Stop giving what you feel is intent to the pp, you are there only one that feels that way.

And just to add to this.

There is no other synonym to clean-cut other that neat appearance. So no need to make up an excuse for that poster. Stop defending strangers on DCUM and listen to black people.

And you can’t tell people on DCUM of all places to stay on track. This track has taken many turns and in the end is none of any of our business. You don’t stay on track when someone says something offensive. You stop the track and call a spade a spade. Period.

Respectfully.

Respectfully, you are confusing posters and lumping them all together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t express how happy I am that I’m not the only one explaining this to the resident I-have-Black-friends DCUM posters.

Thank you, PPs.

There is literally nothing unkempt about TJ Holmes.

Lord.

I don't recall anyone saying TJ Holmes wasn't clean-cut. He is. So is his replacement. The term means put together well in a more conservative business type attire. Same goes for Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Gavin Newsom, etc. It's a "look," as opposed to Ben Affleck, Lil Wayne, Mick Jagger, and those who look more purposefully casual.

Here is the quote.
12/13/2022 02:27
“ The new anchor doesn’t have a pompous attitude like TJ has.
He comes off as a lot more wholesome, personable and friendly than TJ was.
I think he is much more attractive and clean cut.”

You are confusing posters. Not written by the PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the pp meant that the new host was less showy and flashy, down to earth, not arrogant, instead of TJ who is the opposite. My goodness, stay on track about this mess and please stop saying dog whistle, enough already. Stop giving what you feel is intent to the pp, you are there only one that feels that way.

And just to add to this.

There is no other synonym to clean-cut other that neat appearance. So no need to make up an excuse for that poster. Stop defending strangers on DCUM and listen to black people.

And you can’t tell people on DCUM of all places to stay on track. This track has taken many turns and in the end is none of any of our business. You don’t stay on track when someone says something offensive. You stop the track and call a spade a spade. Period.

Respectfully.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t express how happy I am that I’m not the only one explaining this to the resident I-have-Black-friends DCUM posters.

Thank you, PPs.

There is literally nothing unkempt about TJ Holmes.

Lord.

I don't recall anyone saying TJ Holmes wasn't clean-cut. He is. So is his replacement. The term means put together well in a more conservative business type attire. Same goes for Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Gavin Newsom, etc. It's a "look," as opposed to Ben Affleck, Lil Wayne, Mick Jagger, and those who look more purposefully casual.

Here is the quote.
12/13/2022 02:27
“ The new anchor doesn’t have a pompous attitude like TJ has.
He comes off as a lot more wholesome, personable and friendly than TJ was.
I think he is much more attractive and clean cut.”

You are confusing posters. Not written by the PP.

I didn’t say it was written by PP. The PP said “I don’t recall anyone saying TJ wasn’t clean-cut”, was showing here where it was said.

[Anonymous]

I always thought clean cut referred to a how one wore their hair. A clean cut hair style vs shaggy
This thread is about Holmes and Robach, not trying to impose or look for dog whistles: a coded message communicated through words or phrases commonly understood by a particular group of people, but not by others.