Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Lol

Not only did Loudoun not get a DA affiliation but they lost all their good players to DA's

One begets the other right? Without DA or ECNL, those female Loudoun players were going to leave at U14 no matter what. Under this FCV/Loudoun "partnership", the girls DA teams are still very clearly FCV teams and the boys DA teams are very clearly Loudoun's. I suppose the value of the partnership is Loudoun gets a larger boys pool for their DA, and FCV gets a larger pool for their girls DA.

FWIW, FCV has casualties too. More than a few ECNL girls were bumped out of DA and I presume would rather leave for Spirit DA, VDA DA, McLean ECNL, or BRYC ECNL with their noses in the air than stay and play NPL. Not to mention the aspiring FCV NPL girls that now have a tougher path to DA who may test the waters elsewhere too. The net result is stronger DA programs for both clubs, but potentially weaker B teams below the DA's for both clubs. Is that a good trade?

The question to ask is, if you are a U10-12 Loudoun Red or Black girl and FCV has DA why stay at Loudoun next year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Lol

Not only did Loudoun not get a DA affiliation but they lost all their good players to DA's

One begets the other right? Without DA or ECNL, those female Loudoun players were going to leave at U14 no matter what. Under this FCV/Loudoun "partnership", the girls DA teams are still very clearly FCV teams and the boys DA teams are very clearly Loudoun's. I suppose the value of the partnership is Loudoun gets a larger boys pool for their DA, and FCV gets a larger pool for their girls DA.

FWIW, FCV has casualties too. More than a few ECNL girls were bumped out of DA and I presume would rather leave for Spirit DA, VDA DA, McLean ECNL, or BRYC ECNL with their noses in the air than stay and play NPL. Not to mention the aspiring FCV NPL girls that now have a tougher path to DA who may test the waters elsewhere too. The net result is stronger DA programs for both clubs, but potentially weaker B teams below the DA's for both clubs. Is that a good trade?

Agree with a lot of what you said. However, there are a few girls from both Loudoun and FCV that didn't make DA rosters that are clearly better than some that did. To look at it as a pure consolidation of top talent would be wrong. They did get a good portion it but not all. Politics and other factors influenced some decesions.

Point being, there is a lot of good girls floating looking for a home. Spirit Mclean and BRYC will benifit....but not Loudoun

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Lol

Not only did Loudoun not get a DA affiliation but they lost all their good players to DA's

One begets the other right? Without DA or ECNL, those female Loudoun players were going to leave at U14 no matter what. Under this FCV/Loudoun "partnership", the girls DA teams are still very clearly FCV teams and the boys DA teams are very clearly Loudoun's. I suppose the value of the partnership is Loudoun gets a larger boys pool for their DA, and FCV gets a larger pool for their girls DA.

FWIW, FCV has casualties too. More than a few ECNL girls were bumped out of DA and I presume would rather leave for Spirit DA, VDA DA, McLean ECNL, or BRYC ECNL with their noses in the air than stay and play NPL. Not to mention the aspiring FCV NPL girls that now have a tougher path to DA who may test the waters elsewhere too. The net result is stronger DA programs for both clubs, but potentially weaker B teams below the DA's for both clubs. Is that a good trade?

Agree with a lot of what you said. However, there are a few girls from both Loudoun and FCV that didn't make DA rosters that are clearly better than some that did. To look at it as a pure consolidation of top talent would be wrong. They did get a good portion it but not all. Politics and other factors influenced some decesions.

Point being, there is a lot of good girls floating looking for a home. Spirit Mclean and BRYC will benifit....but not Loudoun

Definitely agree, the tryout processes are not perfect by any stretch. There is bound to be lots of player movements, not only at U14, but as the other poster mentioned, perhaps younger ages also as players look to set themselves up for pre-DA, pre-ECNL, or whatever. The value of incumbency at a tryout is of significant value so its probably a smart move to get with a club prior to that important U14 year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Lol

Not only did Loudoun not get a DA affiliation but they lost all their good players to DA's

One begets the other right? Without DA or ECNL, those female Loudoun players were going to leave at U14 no matter what. Under this FCV/Loudoun "partnership", the girls DA teams are still very clearly FCV teams and the boys DA teams are very clearly Loudoun's. I suppose the value of the partnership is Loudoun gets a larger boys pool for their DA, and FCV gets a larger pool for their girls DA.

FWIW, FCV has casualties too. More than a few ECNL girls were bumped out of DA and I presume would rather leave for Spirit DA, VDA DA, McLean ECNL, or BRYC ECNL with their noses in the air than stay and play NPL. Not to mention the aspiring FCV NPL girls that now have a tougher path to DA who may test the waters elsewhere too. The net result is stronger DA programs for both clubs, but potentially weaker B teams below the DA's for both clubs. Is that a good trade?

Agree with a lot of what you said. However, there are a few girls from both Loudoun and FCV that didn't make DA rosters that are clearly better than some that did. To look at it as a pure consolidation of top talent would be wrong. They did get a good portion it but not all. Politics and other factors influenced some decesions.

Point being, there is a lot of good girls floating looking for a home. Spirit Mclean and BRYC will benifit....but not Loudoun

Definitely agree, the tryout processes are not perfect by any stretch. There is bound to be lots of player movements, not only at U14, but as the other poster mentioned, perhaps younger ages also as players look to set themselves up for pre-DA, pre-ECNL, or whatever. The value of incumbency at a tryout is of significant value so its probably a smart move to get with a club prior to that important U14 year.

Yes, it can be. However, clubs will eat their own as well. There in no true loyalty. That's why I find it funny when clubs get upset when players tryout elsewhere. I won't name names but a few coaches from an outside club was spotted at Spirit tryouts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Academy2 and Pre-Academy highlighted by US Soccer ... a/k/a how to do affiliations right. Oops Washington Spirit ...

http://www.ussoccerda.com/20170324-reign-academy-expands-through-partnership-with-seattle-united-fc-and-eastside-fc

Et tu, Brute?

Loudoun Soccer's final words as they drop to the floor

Lol

Not only did Loudoun not get a DA affiliation but they lost all their good players to DA's

arlingron and bryc were also in that alliance. bryc has ecnl, but arlingron in the same boat as loudoun. instead of reston -- which is too weak to support acad.2 and pre-acad.? -- would have been different with 2 biggest clubs on board. presume both arlington and loudoun could have converted their u11/12 to pre-acad. curriculum. reign da must be model for usgda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Academy2 and Pre-Academy highlighted by US Soccer ... a/k/a how to do affiliations right. Oops Washington Spirit ...

http://www.ussoccerda.com/20170324-reign-academy-expands-through-partnership-with-seattle-united-fc-and-eastside-fc

Et tu, Brute?

Loudoun Soccer's final words as they drop to the floor

Lol

Not only did Loudoun not get a DA affiliation but they lost all their good players to DA's

arlingron and bryc were also in that alliance. bryc has ecnl, but arlingron in the same boat as loudoun. instead of reston -- which is too weak to support acad.2 and pre-acad.? -- would have been different with 2 biggest clubs on board. presume both arlington and loudoun could have converted their u11/12 to pre-acad. curriculum. reign da must be model for usgda.

Get off the California board.

Arlington and Loudoun wanted to maintain control. Spirit wasn't having it. Just like Reign won't be having it. This is Loudoun's and Arlington's fault. Let them bleed their talent. Fools

[Anonymous]

Loudoun and Arlington won't bleed their talent any more than they already were. It's not like you have to be part of a club with an affiliation to try out for another better team. If the better players wanted to move to another club, they could have done so before, and they can continue to do it in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Academy2 and Pre-Academy highlighted by US Soccer ... a/k/a how to do affiliations right. Oops Washington Spirit ...

http://www.ussoccerda.com/20170324-reign-academy-expands-through-partnership-with-seattle-united-fc-and-eastside-fc

Et tu, Brute?

Loudoun Soccer's final words as they drop to the floor

Lol

Not only did Loudoun not get a DA affiliation but they lost all their good players to DA's

arlingron and bryc were also in that alliance. bryc has ecnl, but arlingron in the same boat as loudoun. instead of reston -- which is too weak to support acad.2 and pre-acad.? -- would have been different with 2 biggest clubs on board. presume both arlington and loudoun could have converted their u11/12 to pre-acad. curriculum. reign da must be model for usgda.

Get off the California board.

Arlington and Loudoun wanted to maintain control. Spirit wasn't having it. Just like Reign won't be having it. This is Loudoun's and Arlington's fault. Let them bleed their talent. Fools

Anyone think Spirit DA will go back to Arlington in a year or two, if Arlington is willing to cede some of that control? Arlington has the facilities and can pull from a different geographic area (such as metro-accessible DC) than Reston. And has coaching and player talent too. Seems to me it would be a good partnership if people can get over their egos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Academy2 and Pre-Academy highlighted by US Soccer ... a/k/a how to do affiliations right. Oops Washington Spirit ...

http://www.ussoccerda.com/20170324-reign-academy-expands-through-partnership-with-seattle-united-fc-and-eastside-fc

Et tu, Brute?

Loudoun Soccer's final words as they drop to the floor

Lol

Not only did Loudoun not get a DA affiliation but they lost all their good players to DA's

arlingron and bryc were also in that alliance. bryc has ecnl, but arlingron in the same boat as loudoun. instead of reston -- which is too weak to support acad.2 and pre-acad.? -- would have been different with 2 biggest clubs on board. presume both arlington and loudoun could have converted their u11/12 to pre-acad. curriculum. reign da must be model for usgda.

Get off the California board.

Arlington and Loudoun wanted to maintain control. Spirit wasn't having it. Just like Reign won't be having it. This is Loudoun's and Arlington's fault. Let them bleed their talent. Fools

Anyone think Spirit DA will go back to Arlington in a year or two, if Arlington is willing to cede some of that control? Arlington has the facilities and can pull from a different geographic area (such as metro-accessible DC) than Reston. And has coaching and player talent too. Seems to me it would be a good partnership if people can get over their egos.

#1: Spirits practice facility is at Wiehle Rd Metro stop.

#2 Spirit Academy will be top destination in 5 years

#3 Spirit doesn't need to broker deals with the big clubs. They have the golden ticket.

#4 Loudoun will kiss Spirits butt in a few years when they get out and run from their current partnership.

#5 Arlington will cave in and form alliance

#6 Spirit will eventually win out

My prediction

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Lol

Not only did Loudoun not get a DA affiliation but they lost all their good players to DA's

One begets the other right? Without DA or ECNL, those female Loudoun players were going to leave at U14 no matter what. Under this FCV/Loudoun "partnership", the girls DA teams are still very clearly FCV teams and the boys DA teams are very clearly Loudoun's. I suppose the value of the partnership is Loudoun gets a larger boys pool for their DA, and FCV gets a larger pool for their girls DA.

FWIW, FCV has casualties too. More than a few ECNL girls were bumped out of DA and I presume would rather leave for Spirit DA, VDA DA, McLean ECNL, or BRYC ECNL with their noses in the air than stay and play NPL. Not to mention the aspiring FCV NPL girls that now have a tougher path to DA who may test the waters elsewhere too. The net result is stronger DA programs for both clubs, but potentially weaker B teams below the DA's for both clubs. Is that a good trade?

Agree with a lot of what you said. However, there are a few girls from both Loudoun and FCV that didn't make DA rosters that are clearly better than some that did. To look at it as a pure consolidation of top talent would be wrong. They did get a good portion it but not all. Politics and other factors influenced some decesions.

Point being, there is a lot of good girls floating looking for a home. Spirit Mclean and BRYC will benifit....but not Loudoun

And that's another thing going for Spirit that I hadn't thought about -- no pre-existing club politics dictating outcomes based on something other than talent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Academy2 and Pre-Academy highlighted by US Soccer ... a/k/a how to do affiliations right. Oops Washington Spirit ...

http://www.ussoccerda.com/20170324-reign-academy-expands-through-partnership-with-seattle-united-fc-and-eastside-fc

Et tu, Brute?

Loudoun Soccer's final words as they drop to the floor

Lol

Not only did Loudoun not get a DA affiliation but they lost all their good players to DA's

arlingron and bryc were also in that alliance. bryc has ecnl, but arlingron in the same boat as loudoun. instead of reston -- which is too weak to support acad.2 and pre-acad.? -- would have been different with 2 biggest clubs on board. presume both arlington and loudoun could have converted their u11/12 to pre-acad. curriculum. reign da must be model for usgda.

Get off the California board.

Arlington and Loudoun wanted to maintain control. Spirit wasn't having it. Just like Reign won't be having it. This is Loudoun's and Arlington's fault. Let them bleed their talent. Fools

Anyone think Spirit DA will go back to Arlington in a year or two, if Arlington is willing to cede some of that control? Arlington has the facilities and can pull from a different geographic area (such as metro-accessible DC) than Reston. And has coaching and player talent too. Seems to me it would be a good partnership if people can get over their egos.

#1: Spirits practice facility is at Wiehle Rd Metro stop.

#2 Spirit Academy will be top destination in 5 years

#3 Spirit doesn't need to broker deals with the big clubs. They have the golden ticket.

#4 Loudoun will kiss Spirits butt in a few years when they get out and run from their current partnership.

#5 Arlington will cave in and form alliance

#6 Spirit will eventually win out

My prediction

Get your foot in the door now. Don't worry about the strength of the Spirit teams now...unless you are 9th grade and above. Go get the training.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Loudoun and Arlington won't bleed their talent any more than they already were. It's not like you have to be part of a club with an affiliation to try out for another better team. If the better players wanted to move to another club, they could have done so before, and they can continue to do it in the future.

No proven record of developing top level female talent. That is why they never get anything. Bleed bleed bleed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Academy2 and Pre-Academy highlighted by US Soccer ... a/k/a how to do affiliations right. Oops Washington Spirit ...

http://www.ussoccerda.com/20170324-reign-academy-expands-through-partnership-with-seattle-united-fc-and-eastside-fc

Et tu, Brute?

Loudoun Soccer's final words as they drop to the floor

Lol

Not only did Loudoun not get a DA affiliation but they lost all their good players to DA's

arlingron and bryc were also in that alliance. bryc has ecnl, but arlingron in the same boat as loudoun. instead of reston -- which is too weak to support acad.2 and pre-acad.? -- would have been different with 2 biggest clubs on board. presume both arlington and loudoun could have converted their u11/12 to pre-acad. curriculum. reign da must be model for usgda.

Get off the California board.

Arlington and Loudoun wanted to maintain control. Spirit wasn't having it. Just like Reign won't be having it. This is Loudoun's and Arlington's fault. Let them bleed their talent. Fools

?????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Academy2 and Pre-Academy highlighted by US Soccer ... a/k/a how to do affiliations right. Oops Washington Spirit ...

http://www.ussoccerda.com/20170324-reign-academy-expands-through-partnership-with-seattle-united-fc-and-eastside-fc

Et tu, Brute?

Loudoun Soccer's final words as they drop to the floor

Lol

Not only did Loudoun not get a DA affiliation but they lost all their good players to DA's

arlingron and bryc were also in that alliance. bryc has ecnl, but arlingron in the same boat as loudoun. instead of reston -- which is too weak to support acad.2 and pre-acad.? -- would have been different with 2 biggest clubs on board. presume both arlington and loudoun could have converted their u11/12 to pre-acad. curriculum. reign da must be model for usgda.

Get off the California board.

Arlington and Loudoun wanted to maintain control. Spirit wasn't having it. Just like Reign won't be having it. This is Loudoun's and Arlington's fault. Let them bleed their talent. Fools

?????

Those are questions marks^^^^^^^^ What's the confusion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Academy2 and Pre-Academy highlighted by US Soccer ... a/k/a how to do affiliations right. Oops Washington Spirit ...

http://www.ussoccerda.com/20170324-reign-academy-expands-through-partnership-with-seattle-united-fc-and-eastside-fc

Et tu, Brute?

Loudoun Soccer's final words as they drop to the floor

Lol

Not only did Loudoun not get a DA affiliation but they lost all their good players to DA's

arlingron and bryc were also in that alliance. bryc has ecnl, but arlingron in the same boat as loudoun. instead of reston -- which is too weak to support acad.2 and pre-acad.? -- would have been different with 2 biggest clubs on board. presume both arlington and loudoun could have converted their u11/12 to pre-acad. curriculum. reign da must be model for usgda.

Get off the California board.

Arlington and Loudoun wanted to maintain control. Spirit wasn't having it. Just like Reign won't be having it. This is Loudoun's and Arlington's fault. Let them bleed their talent. Fools

?????

Pretty straight forward. Loudoun and Arlington don't want to have a DA but they want to act like the DA is theirs and tell the DA club what to do and what players to do it with.

They want all the reward without the risk.