ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

It doesn't translate into anybody needing to play up. College coaches told Eastside, Copa and Facebook they don't care what age group you are in or your age. Showcases changing into graduation year for next year will be nice also. Best to play on age, be the oldest and become the best you can be rather than being the youngest and increasing your chances of quitting.

You're lieing again.

Here's exactly what FC Copa said.

https://youtu.be/H_MCwT85SKY?&t=5m19s

College coaches don't care about your age or youth age group, only that you can actually enter college as a student. Fyi, mentioning how an individual club is structuring does not refute the below, it is just your noise.

FC Copa from video

"We had separate conversations with several college coaches. Those college coaches made it incredibly clear that it does not matter what age is they will only recruit them once they hit their junior and senior years."

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

Its funny how you to continue to omit this part...

"We will take into consideration the Grade Year of players in their high school age groups when determining where players should be rostered. This is to insure that if a player's birthdate is in the later part of the year (August birthdays) but they are ahead in their grade year they are not trapped in regards to their graduation year. This can only be done in the form of playing up."

Your problem is that you think “take into consideration” is a guarantee that those players will play up. My problem is, I think dc has to be good enough to earn a spot. I could be wrong, but I’m willing to bet recruiters agree with me.

It's like Arlington's "may consider" language. Just case by case like it's always been.

Glossed over that part where Arlington asked all players their grade in school this season before tryouts. When they didnt before.

You know for "records" purposes. 😉

For Arlington, playing up is ultimately based on technical criteria. They posted it.

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group. Grade alone does not guarantee that a player will play up.

Can not be any clearer than this.....

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

It doesn't translate into anybody needing to play up. College coaches told Eastside, Copa and Facebook they don't care what age group you are in or your age. Showcases changing into graduation year for next year will be nice also. Best to play on age, be the oldest and become the best you can be rather than being the youngest and increasing your chances of quitting.

You're lieing again.

Here's exactly what FC Copa said.

https://youtu.be/H_MCwT85SKY?&t=5m19s

College coaches don't care about your age or youth age group, only that you can actually enter college as a student. Fyi, mentioning how an individual club is structuring does not refute the below, it is just your noise.

FC Copa from video

"We had separate conversations with several college coaches. Those college coaches made it incredibly clear that it does not matter what age is they will only recruit them once they hit their junior and senior years."

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

Its funny how you to continue to omit this part...

"We will take into consideration the Grade Year of players in their high school age groups when determining where players should be rostered. This is to insure that if a player's birthdate is in the later part of the year (August birthdays) but they are ahead in their grade year they are not trapped in regards to their graduation year. This can only be done in the form of playing up."

Your problem is that you think “take into consideration” is a guarantee that those players will play up. My problem is, I think dc has to be good enough to earn a spot. I could be wrong, but I’m willing to bet recruiters agree with me.

It's like Arlington's "may consider" language. Just case by case like it's always been.

Glossed over that part where Arlington asked all players their grade in school this season before tryouts. When they didnt before.

You know for "records" purposes. 😉

For Arlington, playing up is ultimately based on technical criteria. They posted it.

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group. Grade alone does not guarantee that a player will play up.

Can not be any clearer than this.....

He will just disappear for a bit and then come back and pretend this never happen. He'll find some other club who he insists will be forming by grade and then that club will post the same things as Arlington and he will ghost again. He keeps doing this over and over. Y'all realize it is just one mentally ill person right?

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

It doesn't translate into anybody needing to play up. College coaches told Eastside, Copa and Facebook they don't care what age group you are in or your age. Showcases changing into graduation year for next year will be nice also. Best to play on age, be the oldest and become the best you can be rather than being the youngest and increasing your chances of quitting.

You're lieing again.

Here's exactly what FC Copa said.

https://youtu.be/H_MCwT85SKY?&t=5m19s

College coaches don't care about your age or youth age group, only that you can actually enter college as a student. Fyi, mentioning how an individual club is structuring does not refute the below, it is just your noise.

FC Copa from video

"We had separate conversations with several college coaches. Those college coaches made it incredibly clear that it does not matter what age is they will only recruit them once they hit their junior and senior years."

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

Its funny how you to continue to omit this part...

"We will take into consideration the Grade Year of players in their high school age groups when determining where players should be rostered. This is to insure that if a player's birthdate is in the later part of the year (August birthdays) but they are ahead in their grade year they are not trapped in regards to their graduation year. This can only be done in the form of playing up."

Your problem is that you think “take into consideration” is a guarantee that those players will play up. My problem is, I think dc has to be good enough to earn a spot. I could be wrong, but I’m willing to bet recruiters agree with me.

It's like Arlington's "may consider" language. Just case by case like it's always been.

Glossed over that part where Arlington asked all players their grade in school this season before tryouts. When they didnt before.

You know for "records" purposes. 😉

For Arlington, playing up is ultimately based on technical criteria. They posted it.

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group. Grade alone does not guarantee that a player will play up.

Can not be any clearer than this.....

He will just disappear for a bit and then come back and pretend this never happen. He'll find some other club who he insists will be forming by grade and then that club will post the same things as Arlington and he will ghost again. He keeps doing this over and over. Y'all realize it is just one mentally ill person right?

Coming back now and then is better than sitting on this thread 24/7 trying to convince August birthday parents that it's normal to play on a team where all the other players are a grade younger in school. It's not, it's weird and it's pathetic.

The whole change from BY to SY was done so players the same grade in school would play on the same teams.

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

It doesn't translate into anybody needing to play up. College coaches told Eastside, Copa and Facebook they don't care what age group you are in or your age. Showcases changing into graduation year for next year will be nice also. Best to play on age, be the oldest and become the best you can be rather than being the youngest and increasing your chances of quitting.

You're lieing again.

Here's exactly what FC Copa said.

https://youtu.be/H_MCwT85SKY?&t=5m19s

College coaches don't care about your age or youth age group, only that you can actually enter college as a student. Fyi, mentioning how an individual club is structuring does not refute the below, it is just your noise.

FC Copa from video

"We had separate conversations with several college coaches. Those college coaches made it incredibly clear that it does not matter what age is they will only recruit them once they hit their junior and senior years."

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

Its funny how you to continue to omit this part...

"We will take into consideration the Grade Year of players in their high school age groups when determining where players should be rostered. This is to insure that if a player's birthdate is in the later part of the year (August birthdays) but they are ahead in their grade year they are not trapped in regards to their graduation year. This can only be done in the form of playing up."

Your problem is that you think “take into consideration” is a guarantee that those players will play up. My problem is, I think dc has to be good enough to earn a spot. I could be wrong, but I’m willing to bet recruiters agree with me.

It's like Arlington's "may consider" language. Just case by case like it's always been.

Glossed over that part where Arlington asked all players their grade in school this season before tryouts. When they didnt before.

You know for "records" purposes. 😉

For Arlington, playing up is ultimately based on technical criteria. They posted it.

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group. Grade alone does not guarantee that a player will play up.

Can not be any clearer than this.....

He will just disappear for a bit and then come back and pretend this never happen. He'll find some other club who he insists will be forming by grade and then that club will post the same things as Arlington and he will ghost again. He keeps doing this over and over. Y'all realize it is just one mentally ill person right?

Coming back now and then is better than sitting on this thread 24/7 trying to convince August birthday parents that it's normal to play on a team where all the other players are a grade younger in school. It's not, it's weird and it's pathetic.

The whole change from BY to SY was done so players the same grade in school would play on the same teams.

No, you sit in the thread 24/7 trying to make club soccer grade year with misinformation and bad advice.

It's 8/1 - 7/31, nobody forced up, clubs assign teams, and best playing up -it is rare but clubs will have more latitude in allowing playing up next year regardless of grade as they transition their teams from BY to SY.

If leagues wanted grade year they would have gone grade year, they didn't.

At least they are changing showcases to grade year for next year.

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

It doesn't translate into anybody needing to play up. College coaches told Eastside, Copa and Facebook they don't care what age group you are in or your age. Showcases changing into graduation year for next year will be nice also. Best to play on age, be the oldest and become the best you can be rather than being the youngest and increasing your chances of quitting.

You're lieing again.

Here's exactly what FC Copa said.

https://youtu.be/H_MCwT85SKY?&t=5m19s

College coaches don't care about your age or youth age group, only that you can actually enter college as a student. Fyi, mentioning how an individual club is structuring does not refute the below, it is just your noise.

FC Copa from video

"We had separate conversations with several college coaches. Those college coaches made it incredibly clear that it does not matter what age is they will only recruit them once they hit their junior and senior years."

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

Its funny how you to continue to omit this part...

"We will take into consideration the Grade Year of players in their high school age groups when determining where players should be rostered. This is to insure that if a player's birthdate is in the later part of the year (August birthdays) but they are ahead in their grade year they are not trapped in regards to their graduation year. This can only be done in the form of playing up."

Your problem is that you think “take into consideration” is a guarantee that those players will play up. My problem is, I think dc has to be good enough to earn a spot. I could be wrong, but I’m willing to bet recruiters agree with me.

It's like Arlington's "may consider" language. Just case by case like it's always been.

Glossed over that part where Arlington asked all players their grade in school this season before tryouts. When they didnt before.

You know for "records" purposes. 😉

For Arlington, playing up is ultimately based on technical criteria. They posted it.

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group. Grade alone does not guarantee that a player will play up.

Can not be any clearer than this.....

He will just disappear for a bit and then come back and pretend this never happen. He'll find some other club who he insists will be forming by grade and then that club will post the same things as Arlington and he will ghost again. He keeps doing this over and over. Y'all realize it is just one mentally ill person right?

Coming back now and then is better than sitting on this thread 24/7 trying to convince August birthday parents that it's normal to play on a team where all the other players are a grade younger in school. It's not, it's weird and it's pathetic.

The whole change from BY to SY was done so players the same grade in school would play on the same teams.

and your kid can still play on same grade team if he/she makes the team. He/She will just have to outplay incoming and current team. The skill has to match

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

It doesn't translate into anybody needing to play up. College coaches told Eastside, Copa and Facebook they don't care what age group you are in or your age. Showcases changing into graduation year for next year will be nice also. Best to play on age, be the oldest and become the best you can be rather than being the youngest and increasing your chances of quitting.

You're lieing again.

Here's exactly what FC Copa said.

https://youtu.be/H_MCwT85SKY?&t=5m19s

College coaches don't care about your age or youth age group, only that you can actually enter college as a student. Fyi, mentioning how an individual club is structuring does not refute the below, it is just your noise.

FC Copa from video

"We had separate conversations with several college coaches. Those college coaches made it incredibly clear that it does not matter what age is they will only recruit them once they hit their junior and senior years."

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

Its funny how you to continue to omit this part...

"We will take into consideration the Grade Year of players in their high school age groups when determining where players should be rostered. This is to insure that if a player's birthdate is in the later part of the year (August birthdays) but they are ahead in their grade year they are not trapped in regards to their graduation year. This can only be done in the form of playing up."

Your problem is that you think “take into consideration” is a guarantee that those players will play up. My problem is, I think dc has to be good enough to earn a spot. I could be wrong, but I’m willing to bet recruiters agree with me.

It's like Arlington's "may consider" language. Just case by case like it's always been.

Glossed over that part where Arlington asked all players their grade in school this season before tryouts. When they didnt before.

You know for "records" purposes. 😉

For Arlington, playing up is ultimately based on technical criteria. They posted it.

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group. Grade alone does not guarantee that a player will play up.

Can not be any clearer than this.....

He will just disappear for a bit and then come back and pretend this never happen. He'll find some other club who he insists will be forming by grade and then that club will post the same things as Arlington and he will ghost again. He keeps doing this over and over. Y'all realize it is just one mentally ill person right?

Coming back now and then is better than sitting on this thread 24/7 trying to convince August birthday parents that it's normal to play on a team where all the other players are a grade younger in school. It's not, it's weird and it's pathetic.

The whole change from BY to SY was done so players the same grade in school would play on the same teams.

So funny. Said Mr Aug who haunted the whole forum for 365 days a year

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

It doesn't translate into anybody needing to play up. College coaches told Eastside, Copa and Facebook they don't care what age group you are in or your age. Showcases changing into graduation year for next year will be nice also. Best to play on age, be the oldest and become the best you can be rather than being the youngest and increasing your chances of quitting.

You're lieing again.

Here's exactly what FC Copa said.

https://youtu.be/H_MCwT85SKY?&t=5m19s

College coaches don't care about your age or youth age group, only that you can actually enter college as a student. Fyi, mentioning how an individual club is structuring does not refute the below, it is just your noise.

FC Copa from video

"We had separate conversations with several college coaches. Those college coaches made it incredibly clear that it does not matter what age is they will only recruit them once they hit their junior and senior years."

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

Its funny how you to continue to omit this part...

"We will take into consideration the Grade Year of players in their high school age groups when determining where players should be rostered. This is to insure that if a player's birthdate is in the later part of the year (August birthdays) but they are ahead in their grade year they are not trapped in regards to their graduation year. This can only be done in the form of playing up."

Your problem is that you think “take into consideration” is a guarantee that those players will play up. My problem is, I think dc has to be good enough to earn a spot. I could be wrong, but I’m willing to bet recruiters agree with me.

It's like Arlington's "may consider" language. Just case by case like it's always been.

Glossed over that part where Arlington asked all players their grade in school this season before tryouts. When they didnt before.

You know for "records" purposes. 😉

For Arlington, playing up is ultimately based on technical criteria. They posted it.

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group. Grade alone does not guarantee that a player will play up.

Can not be any clearer than this.....

He will just disappear for a bit and then come back and pretend this never happen. He'll find some other club who he insists will be forming by grade and then that club will post the same things as Arlington and he will ghost again. He keeps doing this over and over. Y'all realize it is just one mentally ill person right?

Coming back now and then is better than sitting on this thread 24/7 trying to convince August birthday parents that it's normal to play on a team where all the other players are a grade younger in school. It's not, it's weird and it's pathetic.

The whole change from BY to SY was done so players the same grade in school would play on the same teams.

Yeah, but they also knew it was imperfect where misaligned players would exist no matter what. Most of your critics aren't for one solution or the other, but simply for these families to be able to pursue what they think is best for them -- all anchored on their ability to play soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

It doesn't translate into anybody needing to play up. College coaches told Eastside, Copa and Facebook they don't care what age group you are in or your age. Showcases changing into graduation year for next year will be nice also. Best to play on age, be the oldest and become the best you can be rather than being the youngest and increasing your chances of quitting.

You're lieing again.

Here's exactly what FC Copa said.

https://youtu.be/H_MCwT85SKY?&t=5m19s

College coaches don't care about your age or youth age group, only that you can actually enter college as a student. Fyi, mentioning how an individual club is structuring does not refute the below, it is just your noise.

FC Copa from video

"We had separate conversations with several college coaches. Those college coaches made it incredibly clear that it does not matter what age is they will only recruit them once they hit their junior and senior years."

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

Its funny how you to continue to omit this part...

"We will take into consideration the Grade Year of players in their high school age groups when determining where players should be rostered. This is to insure that if a player's birthdate is in the later part of the year (August birthdays) but they are ahead in their grade year they are not trapped in regards to their graduation year. This can only be done in the form of playing up."

Your problem is that you think “take into consideration” is a guarantee that those players will play up. My problem is, I think dc has to be good enough to earn a spot. I could be wrong, but I’m willing to bet recruiters agree with me.

It's like Arlington's "may consider" language. Just case by case like it's always been.

Glossed over that part where Arlington asked all players their grade in school this season before tryouts. When they didnt before.

You know for "records" purposes. 😉

For Arlington, playing up is ultimately based on technical criteria. They posted it.

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group. Grade alone does not guarantee that a player will play up.

Can not be any clearer than this.....

He will just disappear for a bit and then come back and pretend this never happen. He'll find some other club who he insists will be forming by grade and then that club will post the same things as Arlington and he will ghost again. He keeps doing this over and over. Y'all realize it is just one mentally ill person right?

Coming back now and then is better than sitting on this thread 24/7 trying to convince August birthday parents that it's normal to play on a team where all the other players are a grade younger in school. It's not, it's weird and it's pathetic.

The whole change from BY to SY was done so players the same grade in school would play on the same teams.

Yeah, but they also knew it was imperfect where misaligned players would exist no matter what. Most of your critics aren't for one solution or the other, but simply for these families to be able to pursue what they think is best for them -- all anchored on their ability to play soccer.

Thats the issue Aug birthdays playing down are a dead end street. You get the parents saying that it allows their kid to be the star. Ok, so what happens next? If they're truly talented they'll need to play on a team thats their grade in school to get recruited and play in college. If they're not truly talented are you just chasing plastic trophies and wasting all your time on weekends?

Starting early on a correct grade team avoids the eventual dead end that every talented player playing down will run into.

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

It doesn't translate into anybody needing to play up. College coaches told Eastside, Copa and Facebook they don't care what age group you are in or your age. Showcases changing into graduation year for next year will be nice also. Best to play on age, be the oldest and become the best you can be rather than being the youngest and increasing your chances of quitting.

You're lieing again.

Here's exactly what FC Copa said.

https://youtu.be/H_MCwT85SKY?&t=5m19s

College coaches don't care about your age or youth age group, only that you can actually enter college as a student. Fyi, mentioning how an individual club is structuring does not refute the below, it is just your noise.

FC Copa from video

"We had separate conversations with several college coaches. Those college coaches made it incredibly clear that it does not matter what age is they will only recruit them once they hit their junior and senior years."

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

Its funny how you to continue to omit this part...

"We will take into consideration the Grade Year of players in their high school age groups when determining where players should be rostered. This is to insure that if a player's birthdate is in the later part of the year (August birthdays) but they are ahead in their grade year they are not trapped in regards to their graduation year. This can only be done in the form of playing up."

Your problem is that you think “take into consideration” is a guarantee that those players will play up. My problem is, I think dc has to be good enough to earn a spot. I could be wrong, but I’m willing to bet recruiters agree with me.

It's like Arlington's "may consider" language. Just case by case like it's always been.

Glossed over that part where Arlington asked all players their grade in school this season before tryouts. When they didnt before.

You know for "records" purposes. 😉

For Arlington, playing up is ultimately based on technical criteria. They posted it.

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group. Grade alone does not guarantee that a player will play up.

Can not be any clearer than this.....

He will just disappear for a bit and then come back and pretend this never happen. He'll find some other club who he insists will be forming by grade and then that club will post the same things as Arlington and he will ghost again. He keeps doing this over and over. Y'all realize it is just one mentally ill person right?

Coming back now and then is better than sitting on this thread 24/7 trying to convince August birthday parents that it's normal to play on a team where all the other players are a grade younger in school. It's not, it's weird and it's pathetic.

The whole change from BY to SY was done so players the same grade in school would play on the same teams.

Yeah, but they also knew it was imperfect where misaligned players would exist no matter what. Most of your critics aren't for one solution or the other, but simply for these families to be able to pursue what they think is best for them -- all anchored on their ability to play soccer.

Thats the issue Aug birthdays playing down are a dead end street. You get the parents saying that it allows their kid to be the star. Ok, so what happens next? If they're truly talented they'll need to play on a team thats their grade in school to get recruited and play in college. If they're not truly talented are you just chasing plastic trophies and wasting all your time on weekends?

Starting early on a correct grade team avoids the eventual dead end that every talented player playing down will run into.

August can't play down, they are the oldest, they will be fine. June and July are unfortunately towards dead end. College coaches said they don't care what age group you are in, no idea why you are stuck not believing what two clubs posted and they directly said on Facebook. It's like you refuse to use actual information that doesn't confirm to your inaccurate preconceived notions. Staying the course and never learning is weird.

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College recruiters watching awesome player

- Wow, he's exceptional. Wait, what school grade is he in? 🤣🤣

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Anonymous wrote:College recruiters watching awesome player

- Wow, he's exceptional. Wait, what school grade is he in? 🤣🤣

Yes that is exactly what college coaches will say.

"Wait, is this Sophmore playing against Freshman?"

Once this is discovered you go to the end of the list of all other Sophmores that are playing against Sophmores they can recruit.

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Older boys and girls showcases will be grad year not younger kids will be based off of Aug-July. I was told US soccer is getting ready to partner with NCAA. So Grady year for the older players is best for college scouts and players to compete with kids within their same graduating class at Showcases.

The rationale is even with holdbacks or potential kids who started late such as summer birth months.

At the highest youth level an 18 year old should be able to compete with 19 year olds
As seniors and 17 year olds should be able to compete with 18 year olds.
If you’re 20 you will be ineligible to compete in ECNL youth showcases.

Also ncaa and us soccer merger will make it so college is only for students ages 17-24. With up to 5 years of eligibility. No additional medical redshirts or things like that.

This will help with all the foreign born players taking roster spots and prevent hold back issues at the youth level because you will lose years of college eligibility if you’re too old.

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Anonymous wrote:Older boys and girls showcases will be grad year not younger kids will be based off of Aug-July. I was told US soccer is getting ready to partner with NCAA. So Grady year for the older players is best for college scouts and players to compete with kids within their same graduating class at Showcases.

The rationale is even with holdbacks or potential kids who started late such as summer birth months.

At the highest youth level an 18 year old should be able to compete with 19 year olds
As seniors and 17 year olds should be able to compete with 18 year olds.
If you’re 20 you will be ineligible to compete in ECNL youth showcases.

Also ncaa and us soccer merger will make it so college is only for students ages 17-24. With up to 5 years of eligibility. No additional medical redshirts or things like that.

This will help with all the foreign born players taking roster spots and prevent hold back issues at the youth level because you will lose years of college eligibility if you’re too old.

I like the 24 year old age limit.

If what you wrote was implemented immediately youth soccer would have 16 year old "freshman" (held back 2 years in 8th grade typically for sports) playing against 14 year olds.

It would be a HUGE drop in club participation because players would clearly see that teams dont matter playing down 2 years does. Why go though all the effort and pay the big fees if you're not planning to play down.

Also private schools would be in alignement with club soccer and would take over the college recruitment pathway from clubs by offering scholarships + fielding all the best players in an area.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:College recruiters watching awesome player

- Wow, he's exceptional. Wait, what school grade is he in? 🤣🤣

Yes that is exactly what college coaches will say.

"Wait, is this Sophmore playing against Freshman?"

Once this is discovered you go to the end of the list of all other Sophmores that are playing against Sophmores they can recruit.

No joker, you missed the point, as usual

No one can play down in age group and travel club soccer tiers or skillset isn't identified or separated by school grades

Unlike you, the college recruiters are actually soccer people. So your make believe nonsense is irrelevant

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Anonymous wrote:Older boys and girls showcases will be grad year not younger kids will be based off of Aug-July. I was told US soccer is getting ready to partner with NCAA. So Grady year for the older players is best for college scouts and players to compete with kids within their same graduating class at Showcases.

The rationale is even with holdbacks or potential kids who started late such as summer birth months.

At the highest youth level an 18 year old should be able to compete with 19 year olds
As seniors and 17 year olds should be able to compete with 18 year olds.
If you’re 20 you will be ineligible to compete in ECNL youth showcases.

Also ncaa and us soccer merger will make it so college is only for students ages 17-24. With up to 5 years of eligibility. No additional medical redshirts or things like that.

This will help with all the foreign born players taking roster spots and prevent hold back issues at the youth level because you will lose years of college eligibility if you’re too old.

I like the 24 year old age limit.

If what you wrote was implemented immediately youth soccer would have 16 year old "freshman" (held back 2 years in 8th grade typically for sports) playing against 14 year olds.

It would be a HUGE drop in club participation because players would clearly see that teams dont matter playing down 2 years does. Why go though all the effort and pay the big fees if you're not planning to play down.

Also private schools would be in alignement with club soccer and would take over the college recruitment pathway from clubs by offering scholarships + fielding all the best players in an area.

From what I heard this would not affect sophomores and Freshman at the club level. So even if you’re a hold back you would play with your Aug to July age group until your junior year.