ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

It doesn't translate into anybody needing to play up. College coaches told Eastside, Copa and Facebook they don't care what age group you are in or your age. Showcases changing into graduation year for next year will be nice also. Best to play on age, be the oldest and become the best you can be rather than being the youngest and increasing your chances of quitting.

You're lieing again.

Here's exactly what FC Copa said.

https://youtu.be/H_MCwT85SKY?&t=5m19s

College coaches don't care about your age or youth age group, only that you can actually enter college as a student. Fyi, mentioning how an individual club is structuring does not refute the below, it is just your noise.

FC Copa from video

"We had separate conversations with several college coaches. Those college coaches made it incredibly clear that it does not matter what age is they will only recruit them once they hit their junior and senior years."

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

Its funny how you to continue to omit this part...

"We will take into consideration the Grade Year of players in their high school age groups when determining where players should be rostered. This is to insure that if a player's birthdate is in the later part of the year (August birthdays) but they are ahead in their grade year they are not trapped in regards to their graduation year. This can only be done in the form of playing up."

Your problem is that you think “take into consideration” is a guarantee that those players will play up. My problem is, I think dc has to be good enough to earn a spot. I could be wrong, but I’m willing to bet recruiters agree with me.

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

I’m not the only one. There is at least one other poster that I agree with 100%, so there’s at least 2 of us.

You’re suggesting that teams with different GY players on a roster will have to select players for showcases based on the grade year being recruited only? And the kids playing up on that same team have to sit? And if they are short on numbers? And will clubs charge less for players that can’t participate because they’re playing up? Does all that sound feasible?

If dc wants college coaches to consider them for graduating class, dc needs to be good enough to play with graduating class. It’s a competitive sport after all.

Most people agree with us. Unfortunately the age guy troll posts 24/7 on this thread about how playing down has no consequences. It does. It puts Aug birthdays at a huge disadvantage when it comes to college recruiting

If you want to hold yout Aug birthday kid back so their grade and level played in club are aligned. Great, problem solved you've found the playing down loophole you so desperately desire.

Find a college coach stating they agree with you that recruits all have to play in the same grade. Because you lost the argument without this. Two teams announced that college coaches that they don't care what age group you are in or your age. College coaches also said this on the Facebook thread you sent.

Repeating your opinion without proof doesn't make it true, it is still merely your opinion. Everybody's got one.

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

It doesn't translate into anybody needing to play up. College coaches told Eastside, Copa and Facebook they don't care what age group you are in or your age. Showcases changing into graduation year for next year will be nice also. Best to play on age, be the oldest and become the best you can be rather than being the youngest and increasing your chances of quitting.

You're lieing again.

Here's exactly what FC Copa said.

https://youtu.be/H_MCwT85SKY?&t=5m19s

College coaches don't care about your age or youth age group, only that you can actually enter college as a student. Fyi, mentioning how an individual club is structuring does not refute the below, it is just your noise.

FC Copa from video

"We had separate conversations with several college coaches. Those college coaches made it incredibly clear that it does not matter what age is they will only recruit them once they hit their junior and senior years."

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

Its funny how you to continue to omit this part...

"We will take into consideration the Grade Year of players in their high school age groups when determining where players should be rostered. This is to insure that if a player's birthdate is in the later part of the year (August birthdays) but they are ahead in their grade year they are not trapped in regards to their graduation year. This can only be done in the form of playing up."

Your problem is that you think “take into consideration” is a guarantee that those players will play up. My problem is, I think dc has to be good enough to earn a spot. I could be wrong, but I’m willing to bet recruiters agree with me.

It's like Arlington's "may consider" language. Just case by case like it's always been.

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

It doesn't translate into anybody needing to play up. College coaches told Eastside, Copa and Facebook they don't care what age group you are in or your age. Showcases changing into graduation year for next year will be nice also. Best to play on age, be the oldest and become the best you can be rather than being the youngest and increasing your chances of quitting.

You're lieing again.

Here's exactly what FC Copa said.

https://youtu.be/H_MCwT85SKY?&t=5m19s

College coaches don't care about your age or youth age group, only that you can actually enter college as a student. Fyi, mentioning how an individual club is structuring does not refute the below, it is just your noise.

FC Copa from video

"We had separate conversations with several college coaches. Those college coaches made it incredibly clear that it does not matter what age is they will only recruit them once they hit their junior and senior years."

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

Its funny how you to continue to omit this part...

"We will take into consideration the Grade Year of players in their high school age groups when determining where players should be rostered. This is to insure that if a player's birthdate is in the later part of the year (August birthdays) but they are ahead in their grade year they are not trapped in regards to their graduation year. This can only be done in the form of playing up."

Your problem is that you think “take into consideration” is a guarantee that those players will play up. My problem is, I think dc has to be good enough to earn a spot. I could be wrong, but I’m willing to bet recruiters agree with me.

It's like Arlington's "may consider" language. Just case by case like it's always been.

Glossed over that part where Arlington asked all players their grade in school this season before tryouts. When they didnt before.

You know for "records" purposes. 😉

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

It doesn't translate into anybody needing to play up. College coaches told Eastside, Copa and Facebook they don't care what age group you are in or your age. Showcases changing into graduation year for next year will be nice also. Best to play on age, be the oldest and become the best you can be rather than being the youngest and increasing your chances of quitting.

You're lieing again.

Here's exactly what FC Copa said.

https://youtu.be/H_MCwT85SKY?&t=5m19s

College coaches don't care about your age or youth age group, only that you can actually enter college as a student. Fyi, mentioning how an individual club is structuring does not refute the below, it is just your noise.

FC Copa from video

"We had separate conversations with several college coaches. Those college coaches made it incredibly clear that it does not matter what age is they will only recruit them once they hit their junior and senior years."

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

Its funny how you to continue to omit this part...

"We will take into consideration the Grade Year of players in their high school age groups when determining where players should be rostered. This is to insure that if a player's birthdate is in the later part of the year (August birthdays) but they are ahead in their grade year they are not trapped in regards to their graduation year. This can only be done in the form of playing up."

Your problem is that you think “take into consideration” is a guarantee that those players will play up. My problem is, I think dc has to be good enough to earn a spot. I could be wrong, but I’m willing to bet recruiters agree with me.

It's like Arlington's "may consider" language. Just case by case like it's always been.

Glossed over that part where Arlington asked all players their grade in school this season before tryouts. When they didnt before.

You know for "records" purposes. 😉

For Arlington, playing up is ultimately based on technical criteria. They posted it.

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group. Grade alone does not guarantee that a player will play up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

Only problem with your false statement is, you can't find any college coaches who agree with you.

They care about a small number of individual players already in their recruitment pipeline. That's who they come to watch.

They don't go to showcases to watch hundreds of players. Waste of their time

And when College Coaches find out that a Sophmore is playing down against freshman they'll immediately move on to the next player.

Its really not that hard to understand.

The player certainly won't make a college team if they take such a negative message to heart.

I mean YOU could say that about a B or C team

OR about most USYS clubs these days.

But that'd be wrong in all those cases, because kids from ALL those places make it.

The odds are greater BUT not impossible.

It's really not hard to understand.

You work for the State of Virginia and success or failure make no difference to you. However in the real world success and failure has consequences. College coaches will ignore players playing down because theres better players that are available to recruit and wins are their job.

Sorry, not me. You are wrong yet again.

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

It doesn't translate into anybody needing to play up. College coaches told Eastside, Copa and Facebook they don't care what age group you are in or your age. Showcases changing into graduation year for next year will be nice also. Best to play on age, be the oldest and become the best you can be rather than being the youngest and increasing your chances of quitting.

You're lieing again.

Here's exactly what FC Copa said.

https://youtu.be/H_MCwT85SKY?&t=5m19s

College coaches don't care about your age or youth age group, only that you can actually enter college as a student. Fyi, mentioning how an individual club is structuring does not refute the below, it is just your noise.

FC Copa from video

"We had separate conversations with several college coaches. Those college coaches made it incredibly clear that it does not matter what age is they will only recruit them once they hit their junior and senior years."

Eastside

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

https://www.eastsidefc.or.../agegroups

Its funny how you to continue to omit this part...

"We will take into consideration the Grade Year of players in their high school age groups when determining where players should be rostered. This is to insure that if a player's birthdate is in the later part of the year (August birthdays) but they are ahead in their grade year they are not trapped in regards to their graduation year. This can only be done in the form of playing up."

Your problem is that you think “take into consideration” is a guarantee that those players will play up. My problem is, I think dc has to be good enough to earn a spot. I could be wrong, but I’m willing to bet recruiters agree with me.

It's like Arlington's "may consider" language. Just case by case like it's always been.

Glossed over that part where Arlington asked all players their grade in school this season before tryouts. When they didnt before.

You know for "records" purposes. 😉

For Arlington, playing up is ultimately based on technical criteria. They posted it.

Q: Can a player born between August 1 and September 30 play up if they are in the higher school grade?

A: School grade may be considered as part of the evaluation, but the decision to allow a player to play up is ultimately based on technical criteria including the player’s skill, maturity, and readiness for the older age group. Grade alone does not guarantee that a player will play up.

But, but…they asked for their grade in school

Now, Mr or Ms “Glossed over,” admit you are wrong so we can retire this ridiculous post. Wasted so much time because you don’t understand what consideration means when it comes to your dc.

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

Only problem with your false statement is, you can't find any college coaches who agree with you.

They care about a small number of individual players already in their recruitment pipeline. That's who they come to watch.

They don't go to showcases to watch hundreds of players. Waste of their time

And when College Coaches find out that a Sophmore is playing down against freshman they'll immediately move on to the next player.

Its really not that hard to understand.

The player certainly won't make a college team if they take such a negative message to heart.

I mean YOU could say that about a B or C team

OR about most USYS clubs these days.

But that'd be wrong in all those cases, because kids from ALL those places make it.

The odds are greater BUT not impossible.

It's really not hard to understand.

You work for the State of Virginia and success or failure make no difference to you. However in the real world success and failure has consequences. College coaches will ignore players playing down because theres better players that are available to recruit and wins are their job.

Sorry, not me. You are wrong yet again.

Don't believe you. But, let me ask you a question.

Why do you comment on a competitive soccer forum and defend players that obviously arent good enough to play at the highest levels. This is a go nowhere position. You're not going to win. Coaches will continue to pick the best players. The ones that cant keep up will get filtered out. Its just a matter of time.

Its like you enjoy swimming upstream.

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

Only problem with your false statement is, you can't find any college coaches who agree with you.

They care about a small number of individual players already in their recruitment pipeline. That's who they come to watch.

They don't go to showcases to watch hundreds of players. Waste of their time

And when College Coaches find out that a Sophmore is playing down against freshman they'll immediately move on to the next player.

Its really not that hard to understand.

The player certainly won't make a college team if they take such a negative message to heart.

I mean YOU could say that about a B or C team

OR about most USYS clubs these days.

But that'd be wrong in all those cases, because kids from ALL those places make it.

The odds are greater BUT not impossible.

It's really not hard to understand.

You work for the State of Virginia and success or failure make no difference to you. However in the real world success and failure has consequences. College coaches will ignore players playing down because theres better players that are available to recruit and wins are their job.

Sorry, not me. You are wrong yet again.

Don't believe you. But, let me ask you a question.

Why do you comment on a competitive soccer forum and defend players that obviously arent good enough to play at the highest levels. This is a go nowhere position. You're not going to win. Coaches will continue to pick the best players. The ones that cant keep up will get filtered out. Its just a matter of time.

Its like you enjoy swimming upstream.

Not the PP but sticking to the facts and science. The rules are 8-1 to 7/31, being the oldest in an age group is an advantage and being the youngest is a disadvantage, and college coaches said become the best player you can and it doesn't matter your age group. People aren't countering your falsehoods with defenses, they are countering with the truth. Playing on age is the default, playing up is optional for the best and everything is case by case.

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

Only problem with your false statement is, you can't find any college coaches who agree with you.

They care about a small number of individual players already in their recruitment pipeline. That's who they come to watch.

They don't go to showcases to watch hundreds of players. Waste of their time

And when College Coaches find out that a Sophmore is playing down against freshman they'll immediately move on to the next player.

Its really not that hard to understand.

The player certainly won't make a college team if they take such a negative message to heart.

I mean YOU could say that about a B or C team

OR about most USYS clubs these days.

But that'd be wrong in all those cases, because kids from ALL those places make it.

The odds are greater BUT not impossible.

It's really not hard to understand.

You work for the State of Virginia and success or failure make no difference to you. However in the real world success and failure has consequences. College coaches will ignore players playing down because theres better players that are available to recruit and wins are their job.

Sorry, not me. You are wrong yet again.

Don't believe you. But, let me ask you a question.

Why do you comment on a competitive soccer forum and defend players that obviously arent good enough to play at the highest levels. This is a go nowhere position. You're not going to win. Coaches will continue to pick the best players. The ones that cant keep up will get filtered out. Its just a matter of time.

Its like you enjoy swimming upstream.

Not the PP but sticking to the facts and science. The rules are 8-1 to 7/31, being the oldest in an age group is an advantage and being the youngest is a disadvantage, and college coaches said become the best player you can and it doesn't matter your age group. People aren't countering your falsehoods with defenses, they are countering with the truth. Playing on age is the default, playing up is optional for the best and everything is case by case.

Again, dont belive you. You're the same idiot as always.

It must have been difficult to not write rae 100x while crying that the world i'snt fair.

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

Only problem with your false statement is, you can't find any college coaches who agree with you.

They care about a small number of individual players already in their recruitment pipeline. That's who they come to watch.

They don't go to showcases to watch hundreds of players. Waste of their time

And when College Coaches find out that a Sophmore is playing down against freshman they'll immediately move on to the next player.

Its really not that hard to understand.

The player certainly won't make a college team if they take such a negative message to heart.

I mean YOU could say that about a B or C team

OR about most USYS clubs these days.

But that'd be wrong in all those cases, because kids from ALL those places make it.

The odds are greater BUT not impossible.

It's really not hard to understand.

You work for the State of Virginia and success or failure make no difference to you. However in the real world success and failure has consequences. College coaches will ignore players playing down because theres better players that are available to recruit and wins are their job.

Sorry, not me. You are wrong yet again.

Don't believe you. But, let me ask you a question.

Why do you comment on a competitive soccer forum and defend players that obviously arent good enough to play at the highest levels. This is a go nowhere position. You're not going to win. Coaches will continue to pick the best players. The ones that cant keep up will get filtered out. Its just a matter of time.

Its like you enjoy swimming upstream.

https://thecorrespondent.com/406/the-curious-tale-of-the-football-international-nobody-ever-heard-of-because-he-was-born-in-the-wrong-month

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

Only problem with your false statement is, you can't find any college coaches who agree with you.

They care about a small number of individual players already in their recruitment pipeline. That's who they come to watch.

They don't go to showcases to watch hundreds of players. Waste of their time

And when College Coaches find out that a Sophmore is playing down against freshman they'll immediately move on to the next player.

Its really not that hard to understand.

The player certainly won't make a college team if they take such a negative message to heart.

I mean YOU could say that about a B or C team

OR about most USYS clubs these days.

But that'd be wrong in all those cases, because kids from ALL those places make it.

The odds are greater BUT not impossible.

It's really not hard to understand.

You work for the State of Virginia and success or failure make no difference to you. However in the real world success and failure has consequences. College coaches will ignore players playing down because theres better players that are available to recruit and wins are their job.

Sorry, not me. You are wrong yet again.

Don't believe you. But, let me ask you a question.

Why do you comment on a competitive soccer forum and defend players that obviously arent good enough to play at the highest levels. This is a go nowhere position. You're not going to win. Coaches will continue to pick the best players. The ones that cant keep up will get filtered out. Its just a matter of time.

Its like you enjoy swimming upstream.

https://thecorrespondent.com/406/the-curious-tale-of-the-football-international-nobody-ever-heard-of-because-he-was-born-in-the-wrong-month

You'll be filtered out and people wont have to be subjected to your nonsense. Just a matter of time.

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

Only problem with your false statement is, you can't find any college coaches who agree with you.

They care about a small number of individual players already in their recruitment pipeline. That's who they come to watch.

They don't go to showcases to watch hundreds of players. Waste of their time

And when College Coaches find out that a Sophmore is playing down against freshman they'll immediately move on to the next player.

Its really not that hard to understand.

The player certainly won't make a college team if they take such a negative message to heart.

I mean YOU could say that about a B or C team

OR about most USYS clubs these days.

But that'd be wrong in all those cases, because kids from ALL those places make it.

The odds are greater BUT not impossible.

It's really not hard to understand.

You work for the State of Virginia and success or failure make no difference to you. However in the real world success and failure has consequences. College coaches will ignore players playing down because theres better players that are available to recruit and wins are their job.

Sorry, not me. You are wrong yet again.

Don't believe you. But, let me ask you a question.

Why do you comment on a competitive soccer forum and defend players that obviously arent good enough to play at the highest levels. This is a go nowhere position. You're not going to win. Coaches will continue to pick the best players. The ones that cant keep up will get filtered out. Its just a matter of time.

Its like you enjoy swimming upstream.

https://thecorrespondent.com/406/the-curious-tale-of-the-football-international-nobody-ever-heard-of-because-he-was-born-in-the-wrong-month

You'll be filtered out and people wont have to be subjected to your nonsense. Just a matter of time.

April to July filtered out. Other months fine.

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

Only problem with your false statement is, you can't find any college coaches who agree with you.

They care about a small number of individual players already in their recruitment pipeline. That's who they come to watch.

They don't go to showcases to watch hundreds of players. Waste of their time

And when College Coaches find out that a Sophmore is playing down against freshman they'll immediately move on to the next player.

Its really not that hard to understand.

The player certainly won't make a college team if they take such a negative message to heart.

I mean YOU could say that about a B or C team

OR about most USYS clubs these days.

But that'd be wrong in all those cases, because kids from ALL those places make it.

The odds are greater BUT not impossible.

It's really not hard to understand.

You work for the State of Virginia and success or failure make no difference to you. However in the real world success and failure has consequences. College coaches will ignore players playing down because theres better players that are available to recruit and wins are their job.

Sorry, not me. You are wrong yet again.

Don't believe you. But, let me ask you a question.

Why do you comment on a competitive soccer forum and defend players that obviously arent good enough to play at the highest levels. This is a go nowhere position. You're not going to win. Coaches will continue to pick the best players. The ones that cant keep up will get filtered out. Its just a matter of time.

Its like you enjoy swimming upstream.

https://thecorrespondent.com/406/the-curious-tale-of-the-football-international-nobody-ever-heard-of-because-he-was-born-in-the-wrong-month

You'll be filtered out and people wont have to be subjected to your nonsense. Just a matter of time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq8CS83DLL0

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Anonymous wrote:The jump from u17 to U19 solves all of the grade talk play your age group/ skill level the entire way having no u18 specific group already solved all these grade questions business as usual

It depends on how you look at things.

Most college coaches identify the players they want to give offers to Sophmore year. This way they can provide an offer Junior year when they can speak with players. (NCAA rule)

What the play downers / GY showcase people want to do is have their Junior or Senior play in Sophomore showcases so their kid is in the group most closely looked at by college coaches. Leagues already know this is what they want which is why they don't allow playing down Sophmore year but dont care Junior or Senior year hence the u18/19 grouping.

Would you stop making stuff up already?

This is 100% correct and not made up.

BS. There aren’t freshmen, sophomore, Junior, or senior showcases. Showcases are age based with a limit on how old a player can be, not how young. Biobanded players is an exception. Not sure if any leagues besides MLS have something similar. You sound like you lack confidence in your dc’s ability to standout. Stop making excuses and blaming better players for grabbing the spotlight that they earn.

Everyone but you understands that college coaches recruit by graduating year. This means they look at players as Freshman Sophmore Juniors and Seniors. It's because it translates into players graduating year and when they can potentially arrive on campus. This is also why college coaches want players grouped by grade at showcases. Which in SY translates into Aug birthdays potentially playing up on their grade in school team if they want to be considered by college coaches.

Only problem with your false statement is, you can't find any college coaches who agree with you.

They care about a small number of individual players already in their recruitment pipeline. That's who they come to watch.

They don't go to showcases to watch hundreds of players. Waste of their time

And when College Coaches find out that a Sophmore is playing down against freshman they'll immediately move on to the next player.

Its really not that hard to understand.

The player certainly won't make a college team if they take such a negative message to heart.

I mean YOU could say that about a B or C team

OR about most USYS clubs these days.

But that'd be wrong in all those cases, because kids from ALL those places make it.

The odds are greater BUT not impossible.

It's really not hard to understand.

You work for the State of Virginia and success or failure make no difference to you. However in the real world success and failure has consequences. College coaches will ignore players playing down because theres better players that are available to recruit and wins are their job.

Sorry, not me. You are wrong yet again.

Don't believe you. But, let me ask you a question.

Why do you comment on a competitive soccer forum and defend players that obviously arent good enough to play at the highest levels. This is a go nowhere position. You're not going to win. Coaches will continue to pick the best players. The ones that cant keep up will get filtered out. Its just a matter of time.

Its like you enjoy swimming upstream.

https://thecorrespondent.com/406/the-curious-tale-of-the-football-international-nobody-ever-heard-of-because-he-was-born-in-the-wrong-month

You'll be filtered out and people wont have to be subjected to your nonsense. Just a matter of time.

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