Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates

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Oprah noted on This Morning that Harry said it was neither the Queen nor Prince Phillip that made the comment on how dark Archie would be. So it’s either Charles or William, my money is on the latter.

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Anonymous wrote:Clay nails it.

White man from the height of his privilege.

Meghan can pass for white and it seems all of her friends and boyfriends were white, attended private schools all her life, born in diverse and progressive Los Angeles. Clay, a GAY white man from the SOUTH is far less privileged than she ever was.

Sounds like you’re white. To black people, her black ancestry is clear. I would’ve placed her as either biracial or just a light skinned black woman.

Be that as it may, if the white people she is predominantly interacting with see and accept her as white/one of them, the fact that black people recognize her as mixed race doesn’t negate her privilege

Your whole argument is faulty. My DH is white, I’m the only Black person in my division at work, most of my friends are white and they accept me as one of their own. So excited that I’m white now too!

Yes, if you are as fair skinned as Megan and straighten your hair then for all intents and purposes your friends/American society writ large probably will view and treat you as white. Not sure why that’s surprising.

You are truly hopeless.

At the risk of derailing this thread I honestly don’t understand what you are taking issue with. I myself am a light skinned biracial woman- I grew up with mostly white friends and am married to a white man. While many African Americans do recognize my features as being biracial, the average white American is generally clueless. Similar to the black poster up thread who noted that to black people Megan’s ancestry is clear and that the posters suggesting otherwise must be white- it’s a pretty typical phenomenon.

Meghan is famous and is known to have a Black mother. NO ONE in the UK is looking at her and thinking she's white. You can't "pass" when everyone knows who you are.

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Anonymous wrote:I think some folks are missing the point over the security issues.

Yes the BRB has withdrawn security from other members of the family at different times. Fine. But Beatrice and Eugenie, for instance, are not subject to constant racist criticism and often lies in the tabloids. They are barely known outside the UK unless you care about the British Royals, which many people do not.

The issue is that Meghan and Archie are both biracial, the press and even members of the firm were racist and at a minimum uncomfortable about this, Meghan was experiencing serious mental health issues as a result of all this, and the BRB didn’t seem to take any of that into account.

Obviously a family member with extremely high press exposure, much of it racist, should get a security detail. It’s not a prize! It’s practical. I get the question about taxpayer funds, but it’s not like Charles and the Queen aren’t wealthy enough on their own to assist with this, which is what any functional family would do. And ignoring it even participating in the racism, ignoring Meghan’s requests for help re:mental health? This stuff is sociopathic.

If your response is “eye roll, that’s not how Royal protocol works” you have entire missed the Forrest through the trees.

A security detail in Canada once they stepped back from the royal family and declared they wanted to be self-sufficient? I am confused why Harry/Meghan would not pay for it. Plenty of celebs have private security. That's a lot to put essentially on the British taxpayer. I do understand why Harry has and will have lifelong concerns about security, but not sure why they found paying for it themselves unfair. My overall impression was of a couple that wanted to have their cake and eat it too and that it just didn't work out how they expected. Sad for Harry as he has suffered real trauma in his life, and an estrangement on top of that is sad. At least he has a beautiful family, but something tells me over time he is going to need to re establish some bonds with his own roots for his mental well being.

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Anonymous wrote:Oprah was very uncomfortable for most of the interview. Never cracked a smile. That's telling for someone who is a very casual host with her guests. She wasn't buying it either. Meghan would drop a bombshell and they would pan to O and she was "Nope!"

My sense is Meghan sees herself as the next Oprah? Perhaps she was "nope" to that?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of over Meghan's fake naivete - how in the world could she not have known that she was marrying into a racist, stodgy, stuck in the 16th century family?

Now, she finds a platform with Oprah to loudly express her outrage over the BRF....and is met with a resounding, DUH!!!!

You married into it, if you didn't know what you were getting into, that's on you. There is no "fixing" a monarchy that has existed comfortably without change for 500+ years.

Take it or leave it. Don't take it and then complain about it.

You could apply this logic to anything.

"You knew that airplanes sometimes crash, so why are you complaining your spouse died in a plane crash?"

"People get cancer. They get cancer and die. Everyone dies. Did you think that didn't apply to your child?"

"Duh, people get shot at in war. Those injured vets don't have my sympathy, they knew what the risk was when they signed up."

Sorry, but no. These are completely ridiculous comparisons.

Joining the BRF guarantees a high level of public scrutiny and scorn from some. Your examples have extremely low probabilities.

This is 100% on her. There’s zero chance she was unaware of the ever-present press as a member of the royal family. Two dates with Harry would’ve solidified any uncertainty she may have had.

- NP

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Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of over Meghan's fake naivete - how in the world could she not have known that she was marrying into a racist, stodgy, stuck in the 16th century family?

Now, she finds a platform with Oprah to loudly express her outrage over the BRF....and is met with a resounding, DUH!!!!

You married into it, if you didn't know what you were getting into, that's on you. There is no "fixing" a monarchy that has existed comfortably without change for 500+ years.

Take it or leave it. Don't take it and then complain about it.

You could apply this logic to anything.

"You knew that airplanes sometimes crash, so why are you complaining your spouse died in a plane crash?"

"People get cancer. They get cancer and die. Everyone dies. Did you think that didn't apply to your child?"

"Duh, people get shot at in war. Those injured vets don't have my sympathy, they knew what the risk was when they signed up."

Absolutely, not the same. Do not agree. What Meghan did here is more in line with that girl you knew in college who was "not into rushing" and "doesn't understand why people join sororities" but rushed anyway, and then complained about the experience loudly for everyone to hear for two years and then deactivated. WHY did you RUSH in the first place? Oh, I see, so you could loudly complain and get the attention that way....

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Anonymous wrote:I’m still mystified at the purpose of this interview. Is it to get more Hollywood types knocking on their door with new deals?

Perhaps when you have been bashed for every move you make for the past 3 years, you just want to finally share your side? She has been dehumanized and she is here saying I am human and I do actually have feelings.

+1. It's probably that simple. I generally don't give a flying F what people think of me, but it would really bug to have all those lies about me out there in such a public way and not speak out.

They're also launching a charitable foundation that will partly succeed based on their reputations and public approval. Why wouldn't they want to set the record straight? Nothing wrong with that.

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Anonymous wrote:I think some folks are missing the point over the security issues.

Yes the BRB has withdrawn security from other members of the family at different times. Fine. But Beatrice and Eugenie, for instance, are not subject to constant racist criticism and often lies in the tabloids. They are barely known outside the UK unless you care about the British Royals, which many people do not.

The issue is that Meghan and Archie are both biracial, the press and even members of the firm were racist and at a minimum uncomfortable about this, Meghan was experiencing serious mental health issues as a result of all this, and the BRB didn’t seem to take any of that into account.

Obviously a family member with extremely high press exposure, much of it racist, should get a security detail. It’s not a prize! It’s practical. I get the question about taxpayer funds, but it’s not like Charles and the Queen aren’t wealthy enough on their own to assist with this, which is what any functional family would do. And ignoring it even participating in the racism, ignoring Meghan’s requests for help re:mental health? This stuff is sociopathic.

If your response is “eye roll, that’s not how Royal protocol works” you have entire missed the Forrest through the trees.

A security detail in Canada once they stepped back from the royal family and declared they wanted to be self-sufficient? I am confused why Harry/Meghan would not pay for it. Plenty of celebs have private security. That's a lot to put essentially on the British taxpayer. I do understand why Harry has and will have lifelong concerns about security, but not sure why they found paying for it themselves unfair. My overall impression was of a couple that wanted to have their cake and eat it too and that it just didn't work out how they expected. Sad for Harry as he has suffered real trauma in his life, and an estrangement on top of that is sad. At least he has a beautiful family, but something tells me over time he is going to need to re establish some bonds with his own roots for his mental well being.

Agree. They could’ve purchased a $5m home and applied anything left to their security.

Their bad money management isn’t the problem of the BRF or taxpayers

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Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of over Meghan's fake naivete - how in the world could she not have known that she was marrying into a racist, stodgy, stuck in the 16th century family?

Now, she finds a platform with Oprah to loudly express her outrage over the BRF....and is met with a resounding, DUH!!!!

You married into it, if you didn't know what you were getting into, that's on you. There is no "fixing" a monarchy that has existed comfortably without change for 500+ years.

Take it or leave it. Don't take it and then complain about it.

You could apply this logic to anything.

"You knew that airplanes sometimes crash, so why are you complaining your spouse died in a plane crash?"

"People get cancer. They get cancer and die. Everyone dies. Did you think that didn't apply to your child?"

"Duh, people get shot at in war. Those injured vets don't have my sympathy, they knew what the risk was when they signed up."

Sorry, but no. These are completely ridiculous comparisons.

Joining the BRF guarantees a high level of public scrutiny and scorn from some. Your examples have extremely low probabilities.

This is 100% on her. There’s zero chance she was unaware of the ever-present press as a member of the royal family. Two dates with Harry would’ve solidified any uncertainty she may have had.

- NP

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Nah these examples are pretty spot on. But you don’t like them bc they could actually apply to you and you want the sympathy you wouldn’t extend to Meghan.

Years of plane crashes, people dying of cancer and people dying in war prove that you shouldn’t be surprised if it happens to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Reading her body language, the fast blinking, the long paise blinking both signs of someone not being truthful.

Harry is not in a good place

She seemed like she was trying to be careful not to be too explicit in what she shared. Like with the question about a family member's concerns about Archie's skin color. Meghan was choosing her words so as not to reveal who said it or exactly what was said. Harry was more forthcoming and just said he wouldn't go into detail. She was definitely being cautious.

I think they want to address the damage done to their reputations by the BRF and tabloids but also preserve the familial relationships, so it's a line they have to walk.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone catch Meg saying “I gave up my career!” But then Harry mentioning his family wanted her to keep acting?

Yep...they wanted her to keep acting so she could pay for security.

Because the taxpayers pay for their security.

This is a really important point that no one seems to be mentioning.

This is while they were still working royals.

Really the BRF has no defense if any of this is true. They cut Meghan's security while they were working and removed Archie from the line of succession. Look at Andrew- he's a spare and his kids are princesses.

They didn’t exclude Archie from a title - this is the protocol. Eugenie and Beatrice only got titles later in life, as older kids.

Eugenie and Beatrice have titles because of the George V letters patent.

They are male-line grandchildren of the sovereign.

Archie is not.

That said, if Harry wanted a title for his son, he could have requested one. There is no indication he has done so.

Please. Eugenie and Beatrice are Andrew’s daughters. They are the nieces of Charles — just like Archie is William’s nephew.

You need a lot of mental gymnastics to accept that some nieces and nephews deserve titles and others don’t is disgusting—rape when you’re justifying excluding the first black child in the family.

I'm sorry but, are we looking at the same kid? He is less than half black. That doesn't make him Black. He is multi-racial for sure but, not solely Black. When do we look at a white looking person and call them Black?

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I am getting whiplash going back and forth between the largely positive coverage in social media and this thread. DCUM is in a distinct minority on the subject of M&H.

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Anonymous wrote:I am getting whiplash going back and forth between the largely positive coverage in social media and this thread. DCUM is in a distinct minority on the subject of M&H.

Yes, this has been posted repeatedly.

So what, exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm kind of over Meghan's fake naivete - how in the world could she not have known that she was marrying into a racist, stodgy, stuck in the 16th century family?

Now, she finds a platform with Oprah to loudly express her outrage over the BRF....and is met with a resounding, DUH!!!!

You married into it, if you didn't know what you were getting into, that's on you. There is no "fixing" a monarchy that has existed comfortably without change for 500+ years.

Take it or leave it. Don't take it and then complain about it.

It’s not believable at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I am getting whiplash going back and forth between the largely positive coverage in social media and this thread. DCUM is in a distinct minority on the subject of M&H.

We normal people went to bed at a normal time; the haters were fueled by their hate and stayed up.

I will say that I finished watching the interview disliking Meghan even a bit more (she came across as disingenuous to me) but still willing to defend her because the haters are just so over the top.