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Anonymous
Yup. |
Anonymous
You are not a Palestinian. Apparently you don't live in Iran, either. You live where you escaped to and not to where oppression remains. The Arab League betrayed muslims to fill their family coffers. You don't speak for the victims. |
Anonymous
So all of this was for nothing??? |
Anonymous
Maybe Trump should try “Just don’t.” It’s worth a try. |
Anonymous
Not all. Trump and his cronies made billions through market manipulation! Totally worth it! |
Anonymous
And Israel will expand by taking 20% of Lebanon. New settlements in Lebanon. Unfortunately, Lebanon will be the new Palestine. Lots of refugees, stolen homes. And you will be taught to call the Lebanese resistance 'terrorists '. |
Anonymous
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MBS wants the Iran war to continue and we all know Trump will dance to his tunes.
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/2033377244333179070 |
Anonymous
| What’s the next Epstein files distraction on the list? Cuba or Colombia? |
Anonymous
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Netanyahu is so dumb omg
From the Nytimes: President Trump’s hopes that an Israeli plan to ignite an internal uprising against Iran’s theocratic government could bring the war to a swift end have so far been dashed. As the United States and Israel prepared to go to war with Iran, the head of Mossad, Israel’s foreign intelligence service, went to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with a plan. Within days of the war’s beginning, said David Barnea, the Mossad chief, his service would likely be able to galvanize the Iranian opposition — igniting riots and other acts of rebellion that could even lead to the collapse of Iran’s government. Mr. Barnea also presented the proposal to senior Trump administration officials during a visit to Washington in mid-January. Mr. Netanyahu adopted the plan. Despite doubts about its viability among senior American officials and some officials in other Israeli intelligence agencies, both he and President Trump seemed to embrace an optimistic outlook. Killing Iran’s leaders at the outset of the conflict, followed by a series of intelligence operations intended to encourage regime change, they thought, could lead to a mass uprising that might bring about a swift end to the war. “Take over your government: It will be yours to take,” Mr. Trump told Iranians in his initial address at the war’s start, after saying they should first seek shelter from the bombing. |
Anonymous
These are Israeli talking points. Saudis Arabia is in the direct line of fire. Folks, please use common sense and call this stuff out. |
Anonymous
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Three weeks into the war, an Iranian uprising has not yet materialized. American and Israeli intelligence assessments have concluded that the theocratic Iranian government is weakened but intact, and that widespread fear of Iran’s military and police forces has dampened prospects both for nascent rebellion in the country and for ethnic militias outside of Iran to launch cross-border incursions.
The belief that Israel and the United States could help instigate widespread revolt was a foundational flaw in the preparations for a war that has spread across the Middle East. Instead of imploding from within, Iran’s government has dug in and escalated the conflict, striking blows and counterblows against military bases, cities and ships around the Persian Gulf, and against vulnerable oil and gas installations. This account is based on interviews with more than a dozen current and former American, Israeli and other foreign officials, most of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss national security and intelligence issues during a war. The New York Times interviewed officials with a variety of views on the likelihood of an uprising. Since Mr. Trump’s first speech, American officials have largely abandoned speaking publicly about the prospects for revolt inside of Iran, yet some remain hopeful that one could materialize. Though his rhetoric has become more tempered, Mr. Netanyahu still says the American and Israeli air campaign will be aided by forces on the ground. “You can’t do revolutions from the air,” he said during a news conference on Thursday. He added: “There has to be a ground component as well. There are many possibilities for this ground component, and I take the liberty of not sharing with you all those possibilities.” Mr. Netanyahu also added that “it is too early to tell if the Iranian people will exploit the conditions we are creating for them to take to the streets. I hope that will be the case. We are working toward that end, but ultimately, it will depend only on them.” Behind the scenes, however, Mr. Netanyahu has expressed frustration that Mossad’s promises to foment revolt in Iran have not materialized. In one security meeting days after the war began, the prime minister vented that Mr. Trump might decide to end the war any day and that Mossad’s operations had yet to bear fruit. In the run-up to the war, current and former American and Israeli officials said, Mr. Netanyahu invoked Mossad’s optimism about a possibility of an Iranian uprising to help convince Mr. Trump that bringing about the collapse of the Iranian government was a realistic goal. Many senior American officials, as well as intelligence analysts at the Israel Defense Forces military intelligence agency, AMAN, viewed the Israeli plan for a mass uprising during the conflict with skepticism. U.S. military leaders told Mr. Trump that Iranians would not come out to protest while the United States and Israel were dropping bombs. Intelligence officials had assessed that the possibility of a mass uprising threatening the theocratic government was low, and doubted that the U.S.-Israeli attack would ignite any kind of civil war. |
Anonymous
Netanyahu assured Trump that mossad instigating protests, at the cost of killing thousands especially police and security forces, would be sufficient to start mass uprising 
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Anonymous
They can’t take Lebanon. Hezbollah always wins in the mini skirmishes snd ground wars against the IdF because Lebanon is a different terrain than Palestine. They’re already talking about leaving because they sustained losses. Lebanon is more mountainous and that gives guerilla forces an advantage. Smotrichs son was critically injured in Lebanon last week. He is one of the extremists in the government. Israel’s thinking is flawed in that they believe taking down Iran will get rid of Hezbollah. The don’t realize Hezbollah like Hamas is full of angry Arab men upset about Israel destroying and bombing their families. They have nothing to do with Tehran. They don’t need Tehran to exist. I also don’t think the IDF and Israelis want to move to or serve in Lebanon. Many Israelis want a good life and peace and they understand defending mainland Israel but they will not send their kids to expand the map of Israel to Iraq and Lebanon. This is just the ideology of the far right wing that’s taken over government |
Anonymous
| In fact, most Israelis don’t even want to move to West Bank or Gaza let alone Lebanon. Who can blame them? The greater Israel map is the work of delusional people. “Euphrates to the Nile” would require mass genocide, expulsion, and war again. Israelis are already fatigued by the Palestinian conflict and that original sin of their nation. They’re not going to want to send their sons to take Lebanon and Syria and Iraq. It’s just like extremists that want to destroy the dome of the rock mosque and build the temple. This is only the thought of extremists. Most Israelis do not care about this |