Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

[Anonymous]

Why are people on this board reticent to see the links behind Kirk’s last month of his shift on his blind devotion to Israel to asking questions?

[Anonymous]

In the few days since the assassination of Charlie Kirk:

- Ben Shapiro filling in at TPUSA
- Blocked the Epstein files
- Banned Pentagon from boycotting Israel
- Pushed bill to revoke citizenship for criticising Israel.
- Approved $650M+ for Israel
- Marco Rubio visits Israel

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did we talk about this?

Charlie Kirk suspect was in romantic relationship with transgender roommate
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate

People here are trying to ignore and deflect.

Turns out it was it was as we suspected from the start: radicalized left wing weirdo fueled by his hatred of Charlie’s views.

Hate begets hate.

Yes, the hate of the RWNJs has many casualties.

I am not going to get into a tit-for-tat with you. I could name plenty of incendiary remarks and actions on the part of the left that has caused death and destruction (have we forgotten about the baseball shooting or the attempted assassinations of Kavanaugh/Lee Zeldin/Trump?).

When people are constantly - and i mean CONSTANTLY - referred to as fascist, nazis, and the like - it signals to unhinged idiots that these people need to be taken out by any means necessary. Why wouldn't you want to kill a Nazi?

DP. Trump has called Dems “fascists.” Are you going to call HIM out on that?

- Trump called then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi a "fascist" during a June 2019 press conference, criticizing her role in impeachment proceedings.
- In an August 2020 speech in Mankato, Minnesota, he labeled some Democrats "fascists," saying, "Fascists. They are fascists. Some of them, not all of them."
- At an October 2024 rally in Georgia, Trump called Vice President Kamala Harris a "fascist" in response to her labeling him as one.
- Trump has repeatedly described the U.S. as a "fascist country" (e.g., June 2023 fundraiser) and used the term against Democrats, media, and political adversaries in rallies and posts, including in 2024 and 2025.

These examples, drawn from speeches and fact-checked reports, show Trump’s use of "fascist" as a rhetorical attack against critics and opponents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did we talk about this?

Charlie Kirk suspect was in romantic relationship with transgender roommate
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate

People here are trying to ignore and deflect.

Turns out it was it was as we suspected from the start: radicalized left wing weirdo fueled by his hatred of Charlie’s views.

Hate begets hate.

Yes, the hate of the RWNJs has many casualties.

The right wing have been spewing hateful messages since Trump made it ok to do that. Hate begets hate.

Also, you conveniently ignore actual politicians who are Dems who have been murdered/attacked in the past few years.

And let's not forget Comet Ping Pong. That wasn't lefties who shot up the pizza place.

Words are powerful. If you spew hateful message, you will get hate in return. And Trump is doing nothing to unite the country. He's even more divisive in his second term.

-signed an Independent

I am not going to get into a tit-for-tat with you. I could name plenty of incendiary remarks and actions on the part of the left that has caused death and destruction (have we forgotten about the baseball shooting or the attempted assassinations of Kavanaugh/Lee Zeldin/Trump?).

When people are constantly - and i mean CONSTANTLY - referred to as fascist, nazis, and the like - it signals to unhinged idiots that these people need to be taken out by any means necessary. Why wouldn't you want to kill a Nazi?

And, one more thing.... signing yourself as an "Independent" means nothing. Nothing at all.

Kirk himself called the Biden administration to a “fascist totalitarian dictatorship just like Nazi Germany” in a June 2024 speech.

And...he wasn't wrong. Do you remember that time the Biden administration was encouraging neighbors to call the Covid snitch hotline?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did we talk about this?

Charlie Kirk suspect was in romantic relationship with transgender roommate
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate

People here are trying to ignore and deflect.

Turns out it was it was as we suspected from the start: radicalized left wing weirdo fueled by his hatred of Charlie’s views.

This.

Oh, I bet that we are going to find out so much more about the shooter, the roommate, Turning Point, Fuentes, so many things and people will be introduced into evidence.

You are nuts. This has zero to do with Fuentes, groypers. It has to do with a guy who was romantically involved with a transgender person. TR killed Kirk because Kirk didn’t approve of his love life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did we talk about this?

Charlie Kirk suspect was in romantic relationship with transgender roommate
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate

People here are trying to ignore and deflect.

Turns out it was it was as we suspected from the start: radicalized left wing weirdo fueled by his hatred of Charlie’s views.

Hate begets hate.

Yes, the hate of the RWNJs has many casualties.

The right wing have been spewing hateful messages since Trump made it ok to do that. Hate begets hate.

Also, you conveniently ignore actual politicians who are Dems who have been murdered/attacked in the past few years.

And let's not forget Comet Ping Pong. That wasn't lefties who shot up the pizza place.

Words are powerful. If you spew hateful message, you will get hate in return. And Trump is doing nothing to unite the country. He's even more divisive in his second term.

-signed an Independent

I am not going to get into a tit-for-tat with you. I could name plenty of incendiary remarks and actions on the part of the left that has caused death and destruction (have we forgotten about the baseball shooting or the attempted assassinations of Kavanaugh/Lee Zeldin/Trump?).

When people are constantly - and i mean CONSTANTLY - referred to as fascist, nazis, and the like - it signals to unhinged idiots that these people need to be taken out by any means necessary. Why wouldn't you want to kill a Nazi?

And, one more thing.... signing yourself as an "Independent" means nothing. Nothing at all.

That you would post this when your POTUS says more direct threats every single day is telling. You are lost.

In the world where I live, calling someone a fascist is not an invitation to murder, it is a description related to their words and behavior. What kind of sicko are you that you think a certain label means someone should be killed?

You are the dangerous one.

Oh, please. You don't even know me. Quit throwing out insults to anonymous people. In other words, grow up.
And, as for your labeling people with insulting and defamatory labels........
(It is not a coincidence that the killer had "fascist" inscribed on the balistics)

What extremists do — and the modern left has mastered this craft — is dehumanization.

They strip their opponents of humanity, redefine them as monsters, and then killing or silencing them becomes "acceptable." This is not new. It is an ancient technique.

They call us “Naz*s,” “fascists,” “threats to democracy.” They say we want to “disappear” people or “take away rights.” The rhetoric is so grotesque that to a warped mind, or to a young and impressionable mind, we no longer appear as fellow citizens — we become villains to be destroyed.

History is full of examples:

Nazi Germany: Jews were called “rats” and “vermin” in propaganda films and newspapers. Once a people is seen as a disease, extermination feels like “cleansing.”

Rwanda (1994): Tutsis were labeled “cockroaches” by Hutu extremists on the radio. That word helped unleash a genocide that killed 800,000 in 100 days.

Stalin’s USSR: Political dissidents were called “enemies.” Once branded, they could be imprisoned, starved, or shot — and many neighbors even helped.

American slavery and segregation: Slaveholders and later groups like the KKK portrayed black Americans as subhuman. That lie justified both slavery and lynching.

Even militaries do it — soldiers are trained to see the enemy as “targets,” not fathers, mothers, or children. It is how humans overcome the natural revulsion to killing.

And notice: it is always the young they go after. Minds not fully formed. High schools, universities, and pop culture are the battleground. Because if you can plant the seed early, if you can normalize seeing political opponents as monsters, the next step becomes easy.

That is why indoctrination always begins young. The left understands the strategy. We must understand it too.

Do you think that the American right dehumanizes trans youth and adults?

[Anonymous]

Since it’s been a few hundred pages I’m just going to post this Kirk quote here again:

“I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.”

He said it, not me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did we talk about this?

Charlie Kirk suspect was in romantic relationship with transgender roommate
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate

People here are trying to ignore and deflect.

Turns out it was it was as we suspected from the start: radicalized left wing weirdo fueled by his hatred of Charlie’s views.

Hate begets hate.

Yes, the hate of the RWNJs has many casualties.

The right wing have been spewing hateful messages since Trump made it ok to do that. Hate begets hate.

Also, you conveniently ignore actual politicians who are Dems who have been murdered/attacked in the past few years.

And let's not forget Comet Ping Pong. That wasn't lefties who shot up the pizza place.

Words are powerful. If you spew hateful message, you will get hate in return. And Trump is doing nothing to unite the country. He's even more divisive in his second term.

-signed an Independent

I am not going to get into a tit-for-tat with you. I could name plenty of incendiary remarks and actions on the part of the left that has caused death and destruction (have we forgotten about the baseball shooting or the attempted assassinations of Kavanaugh/Lee Zeldin/Trump?).

When people are constantly - and i mean CONSTANTLY - referred to as fascist, nazis, and the like - it signals to unhinged idiots that these people need to be taken out by any means necessary. Why wouldn't you want to kill a Nazi?

And, one more thing.... signing yourself as an "Independent" means nothing. Nothing at all.

You ought to put a hypocrisy mirror up in front of Trump and yourself.

And one more thing.. I actually used to vote mostly R a long time ago.

And I don't give a fig what it does or does not mean to you. It's clear you are one sided. When Kirk or Trump spew hateful rhetoric, that's just free speech and telling it like it is. When lefties do it, that's "causing death and destruction". GMAFB. Is that what you said when Comet Ping Pong was shot up, when Dem politicians were shot? Did you tell MAGA and Trump to stop with calling people names? I don't think so.

And what happened to free speech? I thought MAGA supported free speech, even if it was hateful since that's pretty much all they have been spewing since Trump made that a-ok.

You're not want to lecture people on civility. GMAFB

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think a purge night for political nut jobs on both sides would be perfect to weed out some of the extremism out there

Interesting take. Do you think you just came up with that idea? If so, you were passively radicalized by Trump and forgot.

Trump: “Now, if you had one really violent day… One rough hour and I mean real rough. The word will get out and it will end immediately. End immediately. It’ll end immediately.”

Never forget this masterpiece of word vomit: https://www.rev.com/transcripts/trump-speaks-in-erie-pa

Yes, this idea is terribly violent and destructive and the fact that our President would advance it is beyond alarming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since it’s been a few hundred pages I’m just going to post this Kirk quote here again:

“I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.”

He said it, not me.

That should be his epitaph. He died for his beliefs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are so glad to have some sick gotcha moment here. The guy’s still dead. So how is this good news for you? The shooter could be straight, gay, brown, black, white, tall, short…. He’s still dead and somehow you all are claiming some kind of sick victory.

Only bc for the past 250 pages, you libs were saying it was an alt right wacko - stretching at anything and everything to make him right and not left. Because you have it in your minds that hatred and evil can only come from the right side of the political spectrum.

At the end of the day, no it doesn’t matter which side the weirdo was on but it is a little vindicating that it was exactly what I suspected from the start.

He was an extreme leftist who hated Charlie for his views. “Agree with me or die” mentality is dangerous.

[Anonymous]

I'm not even going to attempt to read this thread, but I wanted to drop in to say that Charlie Kirk's assassination is/was deeply affecting to me. Seeing the video (somewhat inadvertently) was like a punch a gut. I've always been registered as a democrat but I changed my registration to republican yesterday. I know you all are going to say I'm a troll, but I can no longer stomach the political program infecting the democratic party from the left. Democrats are lost in the woods, either operating under total cognitive dissonance, or employing a murderous hate-filled practice of politics that I want no part of. My eyes were first opened to this hate-filled politics when seeing the rising levels of acceptable antisemitism and the treatment of American Jews on college campuses (already on Oct 8 = those jews had what was coming, they deserved to be slaughtered and raped), but Kirk's assassination is the final straw. He did not deserve this, no one does. Words are not violence, they do not permit violence in response. I did not agree with much of his politics, but I was thankful that SOMEONE still believed in the value of debate in the public square, and he was teaching that to the next generations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did we talk about this?

Charlie Kirk suspect was in romantic relationship with transgender roommate
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate

People here are trying to ignore and deflect.

Turns out it was it was as we suspected from the start: radicalized left wing weirdo fueled by his hatred of Charlie’s views.

Hate begets hate.

Yes, the hate of the RWNJs has many casualties.

The right wing have been spewing hateful messages since Trump made it ok to do that. Hate begets hate.

Also, you conveniently ignore actual politicians who are Dems who have been murdered/attacked in the past few years.

And let's not forget Comet Ping Pong. That wasn't lefties who shot up the pizza place.

Words are powerful. If you spew hateful message, you will get hate in return. And Trump is doing nothing to unite the country. He's even more divisive in his second term.

-signed an Independent

I am not going to get into a tit-for-tat with you. I could name plenty of incendiary remarks and actions on the part of the left that has caused death and destruction (have we forgotten about the baseball shooting or the attempted assassinations of Kavanaugh/Lee Zeldin/Trump?).

When people are constantly - and i mean CONSTANTLY - referred to as fascist, nazis, and the like - it signals to unhinged idiots that these people need to be taken out by any means necessary. Why wouldn't you want to kill a Nazi?

And, one more thing.... signing yourself as an "Independent" means nothing. Nothing at all.

Kirk himself called the Biden administration to a “fascist totalitarian dictatorship just like Nazi Germany” in a June 2024 speech.

And...he wasn't wrong. Do you remember that time the Biden administration was encouraging neighbors to call the Covid snitch hotline?

No. Please elucidate on this.

There are some states who did this, but not the federal government and Joe Biden - particularly since the "snitch lists" were before Biden was even elected, to wit:

Massachusetts: The state's 2-1-1 hotline received more than 200,000 calls by October 2020. People used it to report on others for not wearing masks properly, large gatherings, and violations at businesses.

Kentucky: A dedicated tip line in Kentucky received about 30,000 calls in the first few weeks of the pandemic, with callers reporting everything from fraternity parties to alleged safety violations at factories.

Minnesota: Governor Tim Walz implemented a COVID-19 hotline that allowed residents to report suspected lockdown violations by their neighbors.

Los Angeles: Mayor Eric Garcetti encouraged residents to report businesses that were violating health orders, in one instance stating, "snitches get rewards," though no rewards were actually offered.

Washington State: In Washington state, a "snitch list" was created containing the names and information of people who reported businesses for violating stay-at-home orders. The list was later shared online, leading to harassment of those who had reported the violations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did we talk about this?

Charlie Kirk suspect was in romantic relationship with transgender roommate
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate

People here are trying to ignore and deflect.

Turns out it was it was as we suspected from the start: radicalized left wing weirdo fueled by his hatred of Charlie’s views.

Hate begets hate.

Yes, the hate of the RWNJs has many casualties.

The right wing have been spewing hateful messages since Trump made it ok to do that. Hate begets hate.

Also, you conveniently ignore actual politicians who are Dems who have been murdered/attacked in the past few years.

And let's not forget Comet Ping Pong. That wasn't lefties who shot up the pizza place.

Words are powerful. If you spew hateful message, you will get hate in return. And Trump is doing nothing to unite the country. He's even more divisive in his second term.

-signed an Independent

I am not going to get into a tit-for-tat with you. I could name plenty of incendiary remarks and actions on the part of the left that has caused death and destruction (have we forgotten about the baseball shooting or the attempted assassinations of Kavanaugh/Lee Zeldin/Trump?).

When people are constantly - and i mean CONSTANTLY - referred to as fascist, nazis, and the like - it signals to unhinged idiots that these people need to be taken out by any means necessary. Why wouldn't you want to kill a Nazi?

And, one more thing.... signing yourself as an "Independent" means nothing. Nothing at all.

You ought to put a hypocrisy mirror up in front of Trump and yourself.

And one more thing.. I actually used to vote mostly R a long time ago.

And I don't give a fig what it does or does not mean to you. It's clear you are one sided. When Kirk or Trump spew hateful rhetoric, that's just free speech and telling it like it is. When lefties do it, that's "causing death and destruction". GMAFB. Is that what you said when Comet Ping Pong was shot up, when Dem politicians were shot? Did you tell MAGA and Trump to stop with calling people names? I don't think so.

And what happened to free speech? I thought MAGA supported free speech, even if it was hateful since that's pretty much all they have been spewing since Trump made that a-ok.

You're not want to lecture people on civility. GMAFB

+10000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not even going to attempt to read this thread, but I wanted to drop in to say that Charlie Kirk's assassination is/was deeply affecting to me. Seeing the video (somewhat inadvertently) was like a punch a gut. I've always been registered as a democrat but I changed my registration to republican yesterday. I know you all are going to say I'm a troll, but I can no longer stomach the political program infecting the democratic party from the left. Democrats are lost in the woods, either operating under total cognitive dissonance, or employing a murderous hate-filled practice of politics that I want no part of. My eyes were first opened to this hate-filled politics when seeing the rising levels of acceptable antisemitism and the treatment of American Jews on college campuses (already on Oct 8 = those jews had what was coming, they deserved to be slaughtered and raped), but Kirk's assassination is the final straw. He did not deserve this, no one does. Words are not violence, they do not permit violence in response. I did not agree with much of his politics, but I was thankful that SOMEONE still believed in the value of debate in the public square, and he was teaching that to the next generations.

That is one take. Most of your assertions are factually wrong, but you do you.