What happened to this California family?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also a timeline from the sheriff:

Saturday, Aug. 14: Jonathan Gerrish researches Hites Cove hike via a phone app.
Sunday, Aug. 15: 7:45 a.m., witness sees the Gerrish/Chung family traveling toward the trailhead in their vehicle.
Monday, Aug. 16: 11 p.m., a family friend reports the family missing.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:53 a.m., the family’s car is located down Hites Cove Road north of Jerseydale.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:55 a.m., a search and rescue mission is initiated.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 11 a.m., the family is found dead on the Savage-Lundy Trail by a search and rescue team.
Thursday, Aug. 19: Autopsies are completed on the family and dog, “all currently pending toxicology.”
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for a phone found with the family.
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for the family’s home and cars. “Nothing significant” is found.
Monday, Aug. 23: Additional water samples are collected from water sources “along the trail area.”
Tuesday, Aug. 24: A cell phone is delivered to the FBI for data extraction, “awaiting results.”
Wednesday, Aug. 25: Search warrants issued for “possible social media access.”

So likely simultaneous natural causes. What are the odds for that.

What is wrong with you? It was obviously murder/suicide.

I feel so bad for the mom. She tried to get away…it must’ve been awful for her.

I feel like people leaping to this silly and again, the dog is a complicating factor, but whatever.

But pp, despite you feeling for mom, if this was family annihilating by poison it is actually much more likely mom was the perpetrator statistically

I’m basing my opinion on the disclosed evidence, which clearly points to the dad being the killer. The dog would be killed because he was part of the family. I don’t understand why you don’t get that.

I don’t understand what evidence specifically implicates the father

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think “it was only 1.5 miles to the car” is a simple statement. It was 1.5 grueling steep uphill hike in very hot weather. With a dog and an infant in a carrier.

We don’t actually know it was super hot though. It was only in the 70s with no humidity in the morning and didn’t hit the 100s til after noon.

The local news says they were hiking At 11AM on Sunday morning. They were also found in a remote area at 3AM which means that the scene probably got all trampled. It’s very remote in the middle of the night. At 11AM it was 107-109F.

Oops the local news got it wrong.

[Anonymous]

Could it be they died of … not being very smart or careful? Because it sure doesn’t seem like they made good decisions. The chow is the most vulnerable dog to heatstroke and the baby is also. Water not going to save you in the heat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Could it be they died of … not being very smart or careful? Because it sure doesn’t seem like they made good decisions. The chow is the most vulnerable dog to heatstroke and the baby is also. Water not going to save you in the heat.

Cops are saying Akita Aussie mix

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Could it be they died of … not being very smart or careful? Because it sure doesn’t seem like they made good decisions. The chow is the most vulnerable dog to heatstroke and the baby is also. Water not going to save you in the heat.

It's possible. But the police are not treating this as heat related. Look at the timeline. They don't know what happened but it doesn't seem to be anything obvious such as heat stroke.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also a timeline from the sheriff:

Saturday, Aug. 14: Jonathan Gerrish researches Hites Cove hike via a phone app.
Sunday, Aug. 15: 7:45 a.m., witness sees the Gerrish/Chung family traveling toward the trailhead in their vehicle.
Monday, Aug. 16: 11 p.m., a family friend reports the family missing.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:53 a.m., the family’s car is located down Hites Cove Road north of Jerseydale.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:55 a.m., a search and rescue mission is initiated.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 11 a.m., the family is found dead on the Savage-Lundy Trail by a search and rescue team.
Thursday, Aug. 19: Autopsies are completed on the family and dog, “all currently pending toxicology.”
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for a phone found with the family.
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for the family’s home and cars. “Nothing significant” is found.
Monday, Aug. 23: Additional water samples are collected from water sources “along the trail area.”
Tuesday, Aug. 24: A cell phone is delivered to the FBI for data extraction, “awaiting results.”
Wednesday, Aug. 25: Search warrants issued for “possible social media access.”

So likely simultaneous natural causes. What are the odds for that.

What is wrong with you? It was obviously murder/suicide.

I feel so bad for the mom. She tried to get away…it must’ve been awful for her.

I feel like people leaping to this silly and again, the dog is a complicating factor, but whatever.

But pp, despite you feeling for mom, if this was family annihilating by poison it is actually much more likely mom was the perpetrator statistically

I’m basing my opinion on the disclosed evidence, which clearly points to the dad being the killer. The dog would be killed because he was part of the family. I don’t understand why you don’t get that.

I don’t understand what evidence specifically implicates the father

He's a husband and therefore suspect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also a timeline from the sheriff:

Saturday, Aug. 14: Jonathan Gerrish researches Hites Cove hike via a phone app.
Sunday, Aug. 15: 7:45 a.m., witness sees the Gerrish/Chung family traveling toward the trailhead in their vehicle.
Monday, Aug. 16: 11 p.m., a family friend reports the family missing.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:53 a.m., the family’s car is located down Hites Cove Road north of Jerseydale.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:55 a.m., a search and rescue mission is initiated.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 11 a.m., the family is found dead on the Savage-Lundy Trail by a search and rescue team.
Thursday, Aug. 19: Autopsies are completed on the family and dog, “all currently pending toxicology.”
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for a phone found with the family.
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for the family’s home and cars. “Nothing significant” is found.
Monday, Aug. 23: Additional water samples are collected from water sources “along the trail area.”
Tuesday, Aug. 24: A cell phone is delivered to the FBI for data extraction, “awaiting results.”
Wednesday, Aug. 25: Search warrants issued for “possible social media access.”

So likely simultaneous natural causes. What are the odds for that.

What is wrong with you? It was obviously murder/suicide.

I feel so bad for the mom. She tried to get away…it must’ve been awful for her.

I feel like people leaping to this silly and again, the dog is a complicating factor, but whatever.

But pp, despite you feeling for mom, if this was family annihilating by poison it is actually much more likely mom was the perpetrator statistically

I’m basing my opinion on the disclosed evidence, which clearly points to the dad being the killer. The dog would be killed because he was part of the family. I don’t understand why you don’t get that.

Are you thinking that he poisoned the water on the trail? That's an unusual theory.

No.

I think he had cyanide (or another fast-acting poison) in the canteen before they left for the hike. When it was time, he gave it to (or forced it on) the mom first. She runs off in agony and dies. He then feeds it to the dog, the baby, and himself…placing everyone seated next to each other.

It’s pretty twisted, really.

There is literally zero solid evidence pointing to dad. You sound like someone who watches a lot of crime drama. I’m not saying it’s impossible that this wasn’t family annihilating or that it wasn’t dad, but there is absolutely no grounds for you to be saying this with such conviction with the evidence given. A grown man forcing cyanide down healthy mom’s throat with a baby on his back? Please. Also they found nothing of interest in the house or car.

If he used cyanide there would be physical signs and there would have been electronic evidence as he would have ordered it off the Internet. Can’t buy that at the grocery store. And he wouldn’t care about covering it up.

And again, statistically when family annihilation occurs by poison and with very young children, mom is the culprit

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also a timeline from the sheriff:

Saturday, Aug. 14: Jonathan Gerrish researches Hites Cove hike via a phone app.
Sunday, Aug. 15: 7:45 a.m., witness sees the Gerrish/Chung family traveling toward the trailhead in their vehicle.
Monday, Aug. 16: 11 p.m., a family friend reports the family missing.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:53 a.m., the family’s car is located down Hites Cove Road north of Jerseydale.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:55 a.m., a search and rescue mission is initiated.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 11 a.m., the family is found dead on the Savage-Lundy Trail by a search and rescue team.
Thursday, Aug. 19: Autopsies are completed on the family and dog, “all currently pending toxicology.”
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for a phone found with the family.
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for the family’s home and cars. “Nothing significant” is found.
Monday, Aug. 23: Additional water samples are collected from water sources “along the trail area.”
Tuesday, Aug. 24: A cell phone is delivered to the FBI for data extraction, “awaiting results.”
Wednesday, Aug. 25: Search warrants issued for “possible social media access.”

So likely simultaneous natural causes. What are the odds for that.

What is wrong with you? It was obviously murder/suicide.

I feel so bad for the mom. She tried to get away…it must’ve been awful for her.

I feel like people leaping to this silly and again, the dog is a complicating factor, but whatever.

But pp, despite you feeling for mom, if this was family annihilating by poison it is actually much more likely mom was the perpetrator statistically

I’m basing my opinion on the disclosed evidence, which clearly points to the dad being the killer. The dog would be killed because he was part of the family. I don’t understand why you don’t get that.

Are you thinking that he poisoned the water on the trail? That's an unusual theory.

No.

I think he had cyanide (or another fast-acting poison) in the canteen before they left for the hike. When it was time, he gave it to (or forced it on) the mom first. She runs off in agony and dies. He then feeds it to the dog, the baby, and himself…placing everyone seated next to each other.

It’s pretty twisted, really.

I don’t see why you think that’s the obvious cause, based on the above information. It really doesn’t tell us anything except they’re awaiting toxicology reports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also a timeline from the sheriff:

Saturday, Aug. 14: Jonathan Gerrish researches Hites Cove hike via a phone app.
Sunday, Aug. 15: 7:45 a.m., witness sees the Gerrish/Chung family traveling toward the trailhead in their vehicle.
Monday, Aug. 16: 11 p.m., a family friend reports the family missing.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:53 a.m., the family’s car is located down Hites Cove Road north of Jerseydale.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:55 a.m., a search and rescue mission is initiated.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 11 a.m., the family is found dead on the Savage-Lundy Trail by a search and rescue team.
Thursday, Aug. 19: Autopsies are completed on the family and dog, “all currently pending toxicology.”
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for a phone found with the family.
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for the family’s home and cars. “Nothing significant” is found.
Monday, Aug. 23: Additional water samples are collected from water sources “along the trail area.”
Tuesday, Aug. 24: A cell phone is delivered to the FBI for data extraction, “awaiting results.”
Wednesday, Aug. 25: Search warrants issued for “possible social media access.”

So likely simultaneous natural causes. What are the odds for that.

What is wrong with you? It was obviously murder/suicide.

I feel so bad for the mom. She tried to get away…it must’ve been awful for her.

I feel like people leaping to this silly and again, the dog is a complicating factor, but whatever.

But pp, despite you feeling for mom, if this was family annihilating by poison it is actually much more likely mom was the perpetrator statistically

I’m basing my opinion on the disclosed evidence, which clearly points to the dad being the killer. The dog would be killed because he was part of the family. I don’t understand why you don’t get that.

I don’t understand what evidence specifically implicates the father

I’m talking about the evidence that he was found seated next to the baby and the dog, while the mom was 30 ft away. It makes no sense that she would kill him, the dog, the baby and be able to set them up in that seated formation. Plus, it doesn’t make sense that she’d walk away from her family to kill her self. It seems to make more sense that she’d want them all together in that weird seated position.

So, the logical conclusion is that he fed mom the poison first, which is why she ran away. Then he poisoned the dog, the baby, and himself…and sat down next to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also a timeline from the sheriff:

Saturday, Aug. 14: Jonathan Gerrish researches Hites Cove hike via a phone app.
Sunday, Aug. 15: 7:45 a.m., witness sees the Gerrish/Chung family traveling toward the trailhead in their vehicle.
Monday, Aug. 16: 11 p.m., a family friend reports the family missing.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:53 a.m., the family’s car is located down Hites Cove Road north of Jerseydale.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:55 a.m., a search and rescue mission is initiated.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 11 a.m., the family is found dead on the Savage-Lundy Trail by a search and rescue team.
Thursday, Aug. 19: Autopsies are completed on the family and dog, “all currently pending toxicology.”
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for a phone found with the family.
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for the family’s home and cars. “Nothing significant” is found.
Monday, Aug. 23: Additional water samples are collected from water sources “along the trail area.”
Tuesday, Aug. 24: A cell phone is delivered to the FBI for data extraction, “awaiting results.”
Wednesday, Aug. 25: Search warrants issued for “possible social media access.”

So likely simultaneous natural causes. What are the odds for that.

What is wrong with you? It was obviously murder/suicide.

I feel so bad for the mom. She tried to get away…it must’ve been awful for her.

I feel like people leaping to this silly and again, the dog is a complicating factor, but whatever.

But pp, despite you feeling for mom, if this was family annihilating by poison it is actually much more likely mom was the perpetrator statistically

I’m basing my opinion on the disclosed evidence, which clearly points to the dad being the killer. The dog would be killed because he was part of the family. I don’t understand why you don’t get that.

I don’t understand what evidence specifically implicates the father

XY chromosome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also a timeline from the sheriff:

Saturday, Aug. 14: Jonathan Gerrish researches Hites Cove hike via a phone app.
Sunday, Aug. 15: 7:45 a.m., witness sees the Gerrish/Chung family traveling toward the trailhead in their vehicle.
Monday, Aug. 16: 11 p.m., a family friend reports the family missing.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:53 a.m., the family’s car is located down Hites Cove Road north of Jerseydale.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:55 a.m., a search and rescue mission is initiated.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 11 a.m., the family is found dead on the Savage-Lundy Trail by a search and rescue team.
Thursday, Aug. 19: Autopsies are completed on the family and dog, “all currently pending toxicology.”
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for a phone found with the family.
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for the family’s home and cars. “Nothing significant” is found.
Monday, Aug. 23: Additional water samples are collected from water sources “along the trail area.”
Tuesday, Aug. 24: A cell phone is delivered to the FBI for data extraction, “awaiting results.”
Wednesday, Aug. 25: Search warrants issued for “possible social media access.”

So likely simultaneous natural causes. What are the odds for that.

What is wrong with you? It was obviously murder/suicide.

I feel so bad for the mom. She tried to get away…it must’ve been awful for her.

I feel like people leaping to this silly and again, the dog is a complicating factor, but whatever.

But pp, despite you feeling for mom, if this was family annihilating by poison it is actually much more likely mom was the perpetrator statistically

I’m basing my opinion on the disclosed evidence, which clearly points to the dad being the killer. The dog would be killed because he was part of the family. I don’t understand why you don’t get that.

I don’t understand what evidence specifically implicates the father

He's a husband and therefore suspect.

When the police said they weren't looking at murder, that meant they weren't looking at the husband for murder either. Not a third person, not the father, not the mother.

Things could change, but right now, the police, the people with the most evidence, are not looking at murder. So you should stop doing that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also a timeline from the sheriff:

Saturday, Aug. 14: Jonathan Gerrish researches Hites Cove hike via a phone app.
Sunday, Aug. 15: 7:45 a.m., witness sees the Gerrish/Chung family traveling toward the trailhead in their vehicle.
Monday, Aug. 16: 11 p.m., a family friend reports the family missing.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:53 a.m., the family’s car is located down Hites Cove Road north of Jerseydale.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:55 a.m., a search and rescue mission is initiated.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 11 a.m., the family is found dead on the Savage-Lundy Trail by a search and rescue team.
Thursday, Aug. 19: Autopsies are completed on the family and dog, “all currently pending toxicology.”
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for a phone found with the family.
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for the family’s home and cars. “Nothing significant” is found.
Monday, Aug. 23: Additional water samples are collected from water sources “along the trail area.”
Tuesday, Aug. 24: A cell phone is delivered to the FBI for data extraction, “awaiting results.”
Wednesday, Aug. 25: Search warrants issued for “possible social media access.”

So likely simultaneous natural causes. What are the odds for that.

What is wrong with you? It was obviously murder/suicide.

I feel so bad for the mom. She tried to get away…it must’ve been awful for her.

I feel like people leaping to this silly and again, the dog is a complicating factor, but whatever.

But pp, despite you feeling for mom, if this was family annihilating by poison it is actually much more likely mom was the perpetrator statistically

I’m basing my opinion on the disclosed evidence, which clearly points to the dad being the killer. The dog would be killed because he was part of the family. I don’t understand why you don’t get that.

I don’t understand what evidence specifically implicates the father

I’m talking about the evidence that he was found seated next to the baby and the dog, while the mom was 30 ft away. It makes no sense that she would kill him, the dog, the baby and be able to set them up in that seated formation. Plus, it doesn’t make sense that she’d walk away from her family to kill her self. It seems to make more sense that she’d want them all together in that weird seated position.

So, the logical conclusion is that he fed mom the poison first, which is why she ran away. Then he poisoned the dog, the baby, and himself…and sat down next to them.

So rather than protect her baby, she ran away. Not likely. She was ruining from the crime she committed and succumbed to her own method of killing her family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also a timeline from the sheriff:

Saturday, Aug. 14: Jonathan Gerrish researches Hites Cove hike via a phone app.
Sunday, Aug. 15: 7:45 a.m., witness sees the Gerrish/Chung family traveling toward the trailhead in their vehicle.
Monday, Aug. 16: 11 p.m., a family friend reports the family missing.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:53 a.m., the family’s car is located down Hites Cove Road north of Jerseydale.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:55 a.m., a search and rescue mission is initiated.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 11 a.m., the family is found dead on the Savage-Lundy Trail by a search and rescue team.
Thursday, Aug. 19: Autopsies are completed on the family and dog, “all currently pending toxicology.”
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for a phone found with the family.
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for the family’s home and cars. “Nothing significant” is found.
Monday, Aug. 23: Additional water samples are collected from water sources “along the trail area.”
Tuesday, Aug. 24: A cell phone is delivered to the FBI for data extraction, “awaiting results.”
Wednesday, Aug. 25: Search warrants issued for “possible social media access.”

So likely simultaneous natural causes. What are the odds for that.

What is wrong with you? It was obviously murder/suicide.

I feel so bad for the mom. She tried to get away…it must’ve been awful for her.

I feel like people leaping to this silly and again, the dog is a complicating factor, but whatever.

But pp, despite you feeling for mom, if this was family annihilating by poison it is actually much more likely mom was the perpetrator statistically

I’m basing my opinion on the disclosed evidence, which clearly points to the dad being the killer. The dog would be killed because he was part of the family. I don’t understand why you don’t get that.

I don’t understand what evidence specifically implicates the father

He's a husband and therefore suspect.

When the police said they weren't looking at murder, that meant they weren't looking at the husband for murder either. Not a third person, not the father, not the mother.

Things could change, but right now, the police, the people with the most evidence, are not looking at murder. So you should stop doing that.

+1

Slow your roll, Matlock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also a timeline from the sheriff:

Saturday, Aug. 14: Jonathan Gerrish researches Hites Cove hike via a phone app.
Sunday, Aug. 15: 7:45 a.m., witness sees the Gerrish/Chung family traveling toward the trailhead in their vehicle.
Monday, Aug. 16: 11 p.m., a family friend reports the family missing.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:53 a.m., the family’s car is located down Hites Cove Road north of Jerseydale.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 1:55 a.m., a search and rescue mission is initiated.
Tuesday, Aug. 17: 11 a.m., the family is found dead on the Savage-Lundy Trail by a search and rescue team.
Thursday, Aug. 19: Autopsies are completed on the family and dog, “all currently pending toxicology.”
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for a phone found with the family.
Friday, Aug. 20: Search warrants issued for the family’s home and cars. “Nothing significant” is found.
Monday, Aug. 23: Additional water samples are collected from water sources “along the trail area.”
Tuesday, Aug. 24: A cell phone is delivered to the FBI for data extraction, “awaiting results.”
Wednesday, Aug. 25: Search warrants issued for “possible social media access.”

So likely simultaneous natural causes. What are the odds for that.

What is wrong with you? It was obviously murder/suicide.

I feel so bad for the mom. She tried to get away…it must’ve been awful for her.

I feel like people leaping to this silly and again, the dog is a complicating factor, but whatever.

But pp, despite you feeling for mom, if this was family annihilating by poison it is actually much more likely mom was the perpetrator statistically

I’m basing my opinion on the disclosed evidence, which clearly points to the dad being the killer. The dog would be killed because he was part of the family. I don’t understand why you don’t get that.

I don’t understand what evidence specifically implicates the father

He's a husband and therefore suspect.

When the police said they weren't looking at murder, that meant they weren't looking at the husband for murder either. Not a third person, not the father, not the mother.

Things could change, but right now, the police, the people with the most evidence, are not looking at murder. So you should stop doing that.

I don't think so. I think they left it ambiguous enough to just rule out murder by a third party. But why are they looking at cell phones, water samples, and social media if they're so sure it's natural causes?(water samples fits with both theories..

[Anonymous]

Maybe they took drugs and od’d in the heat. Baby and dog died of exposure afterwards. Drugs are a common way for healthy young people to die. Toxicology report will reveal a lot.