What is your take on the Angelina Jolie/Brad Pitt divorce saga? What happened on the plane?

[Anonymous]

Have you guys read his emails to his light designer Odile Soudant that he's been in a legal battle with for the last 10+ years? She said he was neurotic and became borderline delusional with his requests. They both seem off. Jens friends said having kids more of an abstract idea for him. he probably never really wanted them tbh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/other/brad-pitt-child-abuse-allegations-what-we-know-what-we-don-t/ar-AA1km7IU


“Jolie also alleged to the FBI that Pitt looked "like he was going to attack" one of the couple's children after they called him a "p****," prompting her to place her then-husband "in a choke hold" from behind in a bid to restrain him.”


According to this he never hit the kids. She placed him in a choke hold cause she “thought” he was going to hit the kid.

this wasn't the whole FBI report. A lot of it was retracted but said three kids physically touched. Brad's rep said admitted one of the kids were touched but not in the face

They probably got hit after Jolie jumped on him and they got in the middle of the fight.

Obviously the FBI didn’t believe her story since they didn’t press charges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have you guys read his emails to his light designer Odile Soudant that he's been in a legal battle with for the last 10+ years? She said he was neurotic and became borderline delusional with his requests. They both seem off. Jens friends said having kids more of an abstract idea for him. he probably never really wanted them tbh.

Link?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have you guys read his emails to his light designer Odile Soudant that he's been in a legal battle with for the last 10+ years? She said he was neurotic and became borderline delusional with his requests. They both seem off. Jens friends said having kids more of an abstract idea for him. he probably never really wanted them tbh.

He wanted Angelina and Angelina wanted kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/other/brad-pitt-child-abuse-allegations-what-we-know-what-we-don-t/ar-AA1km7IU


“Jolie also alleged to the FBI that Pitt looked "like he was going to attack" one of the couple's children after they called him a "p****," prompting her to place her then-husband "in a choke hold" from behind in a bid to restrain him.”


According to this he never hit the kids. She placed him in a choke hold cause she “thought” he was going to hit the kid.

this wasn't the whole FBI report. A lot of it was retracted but said three kids physically touched. Brad's rep said admitted one of the kids were touched but not in the face

If at least half of his kids have iced him out then whatever happened must have been really bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you guys read his emails to his light designer Odile Soudant that he's been in a legal battle with for the last 10+ years? She said he was neurotic and became borderline delusional with his requests. They both seem off. Jens friends said having kids more of an abstract idea for him. he probably never really wanted them tbh.

Link?

Here's the French article. I put it through a translation so hopefully that works. If not I linked two English websites. He tried to talk her out of suing him by saying friends in America don't sue each other lol. Sir friends in America pay each other and give credit to their work lol. I checked and she's still suing him for her rights on the work she did to this day.

https://www-liberation-fr.translate.goog/france/2017/08/16/brad-pitt-a-coule-ma-boite-et-s-est-approprie-mon-travail_1590305/?
_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
https://www.liberation.fr/france/2017/08/16/brad-pitt-a-coule-ma-boite-et-s-est-approprie-mon-travail_1590305/

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/french-designer-in-costly-dispute-over-pitt-jolie-chateau/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2017/08/18/brad-pitt-loses-court-case-telling-chateau-interior-designer/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you guys read his emails to his light designer Odile Soudant that he's been in a legal battle with for the last 10+ years? She said he was neurotic and became borderline delusional with his requests. They both seem off. Jens friends said having kids more of an abstract idea for him. he probably never really wanted them tbh.

He wanted Angelina and Angelina wanted kids.

Angelina was on the record saying she never wanted bio kids. That was him. She wanted him, so she changed her mind and got knocked up very quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you guys read his emails to his light designer Odile Soudant that he's been in a legal battle with for the last 10+ years? She said he was neurotic and became borderline delusional with his requests. They both seem off. Jens friends said having kids more of an abstract idea for him. he probably never really wanted them tbh.

Link?

Here's the French article. I put it through a translation so hopefully that works. If not I linked two English websites. He tried to talk her out of suing him by saying friends in America don't sue each other lol. Sir friends in America pay each other and give credit to their work lol. I checked and she's still suing him for her rights on the work she did to this day.

https://www-liberation-fr.translate.goog/france/2017/08/16/brad-pitt-a-coule-ma-boite-et-s-est-approprie-mon-travail_1590305/?
_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
https://www.liberation.fr/france/2017/08/16/brad-pitt-a-coule-ma-boite-et-s-est-approprie-mon-travail_1590305/

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/french-designer-in-costly-dispute-over-pitt-jolie-chateau/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2017/08/18/brad-pitt-loses-court-case-telling-chateau-interior-designer/

Of course she’s going to say his demands were delirious , she wanted to win her case. Three and half years to provide lighting? Really?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you guys read his emails to his light designer Odile Soudant that he's been in a legal battle with for the last 10+ years? She said he was neurotic and became borderline delusional with his requests. They both seem off. Jens friends said having kids more of an abstract idea for him. he probably never really wanted them tbh.

He wanted Angelina and Angelina wanted kids.

Angelina was on the record saying she never wanted bio kids. That was him. She wanted him, so she changed her mind and got knocked up very quickly.

+1 Angelina seemed very depressed and uncomfortable when Shiloh was born. I recall that she said something about having a hard time loving her as much as Zahara because Shiloh was born with a silver spoon in her mouth.

Their whole relationship was based on really dysfunctional actions. They met when he was married to someone else, which is her pattern. Then they came up with this nutty idea that they would commit to the kids but not each other, completely overlooking the fact that the stability of the parents' marriage (or lack thereof) is important. Then the constant traveling with the kids instead of giving them normal, stable parts of society like school. Then the last-ditch effort to get married after the relationship was falling apart. They're both not in good mental health.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you guys read his emails to his light designer Odile Soudant that he's been in a legal battle with for the last 10+ years? She said he was neurotic and became borderline delusional with his requests. They both seem off. Jens friends said having kids more of an abstract idea for him. he probably never really wanted them tbh.

He wanted Angelina and Angelina wanted kids.

Angelina was on the record saying she never wanted bio kids. That was him. She wanted him, so she changed her mind and got knocked up very quickly.

+1 Angelina seemed very depressed and uncomfortable when Shiloh was born. I recall that she said something about having a hard time loving her as much as Zahara because Shiloh was born with a silver spoon in her mouth.

Their whole relationship was based on really dysfunctional actions. They met when he was married to someone else, which is her pattern. Then they came up with this nutty idea that they would commit to the kids but not each other, completely overlooking the fact that the stability of the parents' marriage (or lack thereof) is important. Then the constant traveling with the kids instead of giving them normal, stable parts of society like school. Then the last-ditch effort to get married after the relationship was falling apart. They're both not in good mental health.

Agree with all of this. Her heart is in the right place but she's just so extreme in all things and such a nomadic lifestyle, long-term, is unhealthy for kids. Seemed like a big adventure to him at first, but he's prone to boredom and depression plus ultimately realized he wanted a more traditional lifestyle for them. I am glad he won on the schooling point, and that at least some of the kids ended up going to LA schools in the end. But she's close to all of them and seems to have cared for them well, even though she was forced to stay mostly in one place against her will. I agree with the truth being somewhere in the middle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you guys read his emails to his light designer Odile Soudant that he's been in a legal battle with for the last 10+ years? She said he was neurotic and became borderline delusional with his requests. They both seem off. Jens friends said having kids more of an abstract idea for him. he probably never really wanted them tbh.

Link?

Here's the French article. I put it through a translation so hopefully that works. If not I linked two English websites. He tried to talk her out of suing him by saying friends in America don't sue each other lol. Sir friends in America pay each other and give credit to their work lol. I checked and she's still suing him for her rights on the work she did to this day.

https://www-liberation-fr.translate.goog/france/2017/08/16/brad-pitt-a-coule-ma-boite-et-s-est-approprie-mon-travail_1590305/?
_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
https://www.liberation.fr/france/2017/08/16/brad-pitt-a-coule-ma-boite-et-s-est-approprie-mon-travail_1590305/

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/french-designer-in-costly-dispute-over-pitt-jolie-chateau/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2017/08/18/brad-pitt-loses-court-case-telling-chateau-interior-designer/

Of course she’s going to say his demands were delirious , she wanted to win her case. Three and half years to provide lighting? Really?

That's not really weird. He's a perfectionist and gets obsessed about his projects so they restarted it a few times. he shouldn't have dragged it out and paid her though

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you guys read his emails to his light designer Odile Soudant that he's been in a legal battle with for the last 10+ years? She said he was neurotic and became borderline delusional with his requests. They both seem off. Jens friends said having kids more of an abstract idea for him. he probably never really wanted them tbh.

Link?

Here's the French article. I put it through a translation so hopefully that works. If not I linked two English websites. He tried to talk her out of suing him by saying friends in America don't sue each other lol. Sir friends in America pay each other and give credit to their work lol. I checked and she's still suing him for her rights on the work she did to this day.

https://www-liberation-fr.translate.goog/france/2017/08/16/brad-pitt-a-coule-ma-boite-et-s-est-approprie-mon-travail_1590305/?
_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
https://www.liberation.fr/france/2017/08/16/brad-pitt-a-coule-ma-boite-et-s-est-approprie-mon-travail_1590305/

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/french-designer-in-costly-dispute-over-pitt-jolie-chateau/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2017/08/18/brad-pitt-loses-court-case-telling-chateau-interior-designer/

Ridiculous. What kind of business expert never drew up a contract for the work?

[Anonymous]

He seems like a douche the more I learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have you guys read his emails to his light designer Odile Soudant that he's been in a legal battle with for the last 10+ years? She said he was neurotic and became borderline delusional with his requests. They both seem off. Jens friends said having kids more of an abstract idea for him. he probably never really wanted them tbh.

He wanted Angelina and Angelina wanted kids.

Angelina was on the record saying she never wanted bio kids. That was him. She wanted him, so she changed her mind and got knocked up very quickly.

+1 Angelina seemed very depressed and uncomfortable when Shiloh was born. I recall that she said something about having a hard time loving her as much as Zahara because Shiloh was born with a silver spoon in her mouth.

Their whole relationship was based on really dysfunctional actions. They met when he was married to someone else, which is her pattern. Then they came up with this nutty idea that they would commit to the kids but not each other, completely overlooking the fact that the stability of the parents' marriage (or lack thereof) is important. Then the constant traveling with the kids instead of giving them normal, stable parts of society like school. Then the last-ditch effort to get married after the relationship was falling apart. They're both not in good mental health.

I dislike Angelina but Shiloh was born May 2006 and her mother died Jan 2007 after a long battle with cancer. I'm not surprised she was depressed.

I also agree that adopting a 3 year-old from a foreign country in 2007 and then giving birth to twins in 2008 took a massive toll on both of them. Brad looked over before the twins were even walking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/other/brad-pitt-child-abuse-allegations-what-we-know-what-we-don-t/ar-AA1km7IU


“Jolie also alleged to the FBI that Pitt looked "like he was going to attack" one of the couple's children after they called him a "p****," prompting her to place her then-husband "in a choke hold" from behind in a bid to restrain him.”


According to this he never hit the kids. She placed him in a choke hold cause she “thought” he was going to hit the kid.

this wasn't the whole FBI report. A lot of it was retracted but said three kids physically touched. Brad's rep said admitted one of the kids were touched but not in the face

If at least half of his kids have iced him out then whatever happened must have been really bad.

I am not disagreeing but I close friend of mine’s ex-wife created child abandonment issues that last from their kids’s early teens to early 20s. It took years of therapy for him to learn how to navigate things/step back and not engage/let the kids come to their own conclusions. But honestly the biggest change happened when the kids moved out and when my friend entered a stable, long term relationship. I am not sure which was the bigger influence but I think the combination of the kids being on their own, hearing about other parental relationships, while watching their dad be happy in his new relationship and mom continue to rant about him made them understand that things weren’t how they seemed. It took 10 years but the kids are very close to him now.