HS Party with Alcohol... Death

[Anonymous]

Wow so it took almost 11 months before he pled guilty. I guess he was out on bail this whole time? Will have to look and see how long it was between the time of the accident and when charges were filed.
How do all these kids get cars? My son didn't have his own car until he was out of college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please stop with the assumption that parents "provide" or serve kids alcohol. I do not know of that ever happening. News flash: Kids take alcohol from their own homes is common. Older sibs/friends buying for the teens is common. Also the kids have fake IDs.

News Flash: When parents fail to secure (lock-up) their liquor stash, they are thus allowing it to be available to underaged drinkers in their house. How is that not quietly(?) providing the alcohol to their kid and friends?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow so it took almost 11 months before he pled guilty. I guess he was out on bail this whole time? Will have to look and see how long it was between the time of the accident and when charges were filed.
How do all these kids get cars? My son didn't have his own car until he was out of college.

High schools need to eliminate on-site parking availability for the kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow so it took almost 11 months before he pled guilty. I guess he was out on bail this whole time? Will have to look and see how long it was between the time of the accident and when charges were filed.
How do all these kids get cars? My son didn't have his own car until he was out of college.

High schools need to eliminate on-site parking availability for the kids.

Less time practicing driving = high accident rates.

No thinks, I want to send a proficient driver off to college. It's a life skill.

[Anonymous]

Drinking and Driving = Accidents
I don't think practicing will help much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please stop with the assumption that parents "provide" or serve kids alcohol. I do not know of that ever happening. News flash: Kids take alcohol from their own homes is common. Older sibs/friends buying for the teens is common. Also the kids have fake IDs.

News Flash: When parents fail to secure (lock-up) their liquor stash, they are thus allowing it to be available to underaged drinkers in their house. How is that not quietly(?) providing the alcohol to their kid and friends?

You lock up your beer? Bless your heart. But your neighbors, family and friends don't.

[Anonymous]

Here is an article about a drinking party raided by the police:


http://www.thesentinel.com/mont/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=584:attorney-claims-cops-cited-people-who-didn-t-drink&Itemid=766

If you look up the names on Judiciary Case Search, it doesn't appear the hosts faced any penalties (despite the arrests).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please stop with the assumption that parents "provide" or serve kids alcohol. I do not know of that ever happening. News flash: Kids take alcohol from their own homes is common. Older sibs/friends buying for the teens is common. Also the kids have fake IDs.

News Flash: When parents fail to secure (lock-up) their liquor stash, they are thus allowing it to be available to underaged drinkers in their house. How is that not quietly(?) providing the alcohol to their kid and friends?

You lock up your beer? Bless your heart. But your neighbors, family and friends don't.

Locking up the liquor vs. Drinking and driving (maybe dead) kid?
Let's see......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is an article about a drinking party raided by the police:


http://www.thesentinel.com/mont/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=584:attorney-claims-cops-cited-people-who-didn-t-drink&Itemid=766

If you look up the names on Judiciary Case Search, it doesn't appear the hosts faced any penalties (despite the arrests).

Case was dismissed on motions. Police had. I reasonable basis to enter the property so none of the evidence they found could be used.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Drinking and Driving = Accidents
I don't think practicing will help much.

If your kids are drinking before school you have a real problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow so it took almost 11 months before he pled guilty. I guess he was out on bail this whole time? Will have to look and see how long it was between the time of the accident and when charges were filed.
How do all these kids get cars? My son didn't have his own car until he was out of college.

High schools need to eliminate on-site parking availability for the kids.

Less time practicing driving = high accident rates.

No thinks, I want to send a proficient driver off to college. It's a life skill.

I agree. Most kids are driving to school drunk.

It's the alcohol not the cars that's the main problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A link for Montgomery County law would be pertinent here.
What are the penalties for:

1. Providing alcohol to an underaged drinker?

2. Allowing underaged drinkers to party in your home?

It's Maryland law, not Montgomery County law.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/financial-services-and-commerce/social-host-liability-for-underage-drinking-statutes.aspx

Md. Criminal Law Code Ann. §10-117
(a) Furnishing alcohol. -- Except as provided in subsection (c) of this section, a person may not furnish an alcoholic beverage to an individual if: (1) the person furnishing the alcoholic beverage knows that the individual is under the age of 21 years; and (2) the alcoholic beverage is furnished for the purpose of consumption by the individual under the age of 21 years.

(b) Allowing possession or consumption of alcohol. -- Except as provided in subsection (c) of this section, an adult may not knowingly and willfully allow an individual under the age of 21 years actually to possess or consume an alcoholic beverage at a residence, or within the curtilage of a residence that the adult owns or leases and in which the adult resides.

(c) Exceptions. -- (1) The prohibition set forth in subsection (a) of this section does not apply if the person furnishing the alcoholic beverage and the individual to whom the alcoholic beverage is furnished: (i) are members of the same immediate family, and the alcoholic beverage is furnished and consumed in a private residence or within the curtilage of the residence; or (ii) are participants in a religious ceremony.
(2) The prohibition set forth in subsection (b) of this section does not apply if the adult allowing the possession or consumption of the alcoholic beverage and the individual under the age of 21 years who possesses or consumes the alcoholic beverage: (i) are members of the same immediate family, and the alcoholic beverage is possessed and consumed in a private residence, or within the curtilage of the residence, of the adult; or (ii) are participants in a religious ceremony.

Md. Criminal Law Code §10-121
(b) Penalties. -- An adult who violates §10-116 or §10-117 of this subtitle is guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction is subject to: (1) a fine not exceeding $ 2,500 for a first offense; or (2) a fine not exceeding $ 5,000 for a second or subsequent offense.

This law just applies to hosting parties. When attendees die as a direct result, other laws may apply.

Involuntary manslaughter

[Anonymous]

Have none of you ever been to or lived in Europe? You thoughts on how to handle this are laughable... verging on insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A link for Montgomery County law would be pertinent here.
What are the penalties for:

1. Providing alcohol to an underaged drinker?

2. Allowing underaged drinkers to party in your home?

It's Maryland law, not Montgomery County law.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/financial-services-and-commerce/social-host-liability-for-underage-drinking-statutes.aspx

Md. Criminal Law Code Ann. §10-117
(a) Furnishing alcohol. -- Except as provided in subsection (c) of this section, a person may not furnish an alcoholic beverage to an individual if: (1) the person furnishing the alcoholic beverage knows that the individual is under the age of 21 years; and (2) the alcoholic beverage is furnished for the purpose of consumption by the individual under the age of 21 years.

(b) Allowing possession or consumption of alcohol. -- Except as provided in subsection (c) of this section, an adult may not knowingly and willfully allow an individual under the age of 21 years actually to possess or consume an alcoholic beverage at a residence, or within the curtilage of a residence that the adult owns or leases and in which the adult resides.

(c) Exceptions. -- (1) The prohibition set forth in subsection (a) of this section does not apply if the person furnishing the alcoholic beverage and the individual to whom the alcoholic beverage is furnished: (i) are members of the same immediate family, and the alcoholic beverage is furnished and consumed in a private residence or within the curtilage of the residence; or (ii) are participants in a religious ceremony.
(2) The prohibition set forth in subsection (b) of this section does not apply if the adult allowing the possession or consumption of the alcoholic beverage and the individual under the age of 21 years who possesses or consumes the alcoholic beverage: (i) are members of the same immediate family, and the alcoholic beverage is possessed and consumed in a private residence, or within the curtilage of the residence, of the adult; or (ii) are participants in a religious ceremony.

Md. Criminal Law Code §10-121
(b) Penalties. -- An adult who violates §10-116 or §10-117 of this subtitle is guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction is subject to: (1) a fine not exceeding $ 2,500 for a first offense; or (2) a fine not exceeding $ 5,000 for a second or subsequent offense.

This law just applies to hosting parties. When attendees die as a direct result, other laws may apply.

Involuntary manslaughter

This.

[Anonymous]

You all understand it would be very rare for parents to "host" parties and "serve" teens alcohol, right?