War with Iran Part II
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Anonymous
I don't know if you guys just don't know enough or what, but Saudis do not actually benefit from any of this in the end. They're servile dogs w/ no real power. Just a checkbook and a traitorous, corrupt leader who literally has a pic w/ Epstein. The difference between Isr and SA, is that you will not find the Saudi civilian population to be bloodthirsty for any of this the way you will the israelis. |
Anonymous
Pakistan does have some stability issues in the Pashtun areas bordering Afghanistan. That's to be expected because the Brits fked up the entire West, Central, and South Asian colonial regions with their racist and brutal divide and conquer hierarchies. But Pakistan has been way more reliable than Israel in making sure American soldiers and civilians aren't killed as invaders, meat shields, bait, or collateral damage. August 12, 2025 Joint Statement on U.S.-Pakistan Counterterrorism Dialogue https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2025/08/joint-statement-on-u-s-pakistan-counterterrorism-dialogue The United States of America and Pakistan held the latest round of the U.S.-Pakistan Counterterrorism Dialogue in Islamabad on August 12, 2025, reaffirming their shared commitment to combating terrorism in all its forms and manifestations. The dialogue was co-chaired by Special Secretary for the United Nations, Nabeel Munir, and U.S. Department of State Acting Coordinator for Counterterrorism Gregory D. LoGerfo. Both delegations underscored the critical importance of developing effective approaches to terrorist threats, including those posed by the Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA), ISIS-Khorasan, and Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP). The United States of America applauded Pakistan’s continued successes in containing terrorist entities that pose a threat to the peace and security of the region and the world. Furthermore, the United States of America expressed condolences for the loss of civilians and members of law enforcement agencies in terrorist incidents in Pakistan, including the barbaric Jaffar Express terrorist attack and the bombing of a school bus in Khuzdar. April 1, 2025 Pakistan – US Strategic Partnership in Counterterrorism https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2025/04/01/pakistan-us-strategic-partnership-in-counterterrorism/ Pakistan has consistently played a pivotal role as a frontline partner of the United States (US) in the global fight against terrorism through unparalleled cooperation and immense sacrifices. Following the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Pakistan emerged as a key ally in the US-led War on Terror (WOT), providing logistical, intelligence, and operational support and dismantling numerous terrorist networks operating in the region. Thus, Pakistan became a crucial partner of the US in counter-terrorism efforts as it provided naval and air force bases to the US military. Intelligence sharing between the two countries was vital in disrupting major terrorist plots and capturing high-profile Al-Qaeda operatives. Pakistan has reaffirmed its commitment to continued cooperation with the US in counter-terrorism efforts. On March 4 [2024], US President Donald Trump, in his address to Congress, praised Pakistan for facilitating the capture of Mohammad Sharifullah, the mastermind behind the Kabul airport bombing. June 11, 2025 US Centcom chief lauds ‘phenomenal partner’ Pakistan in counter-terrorism efforts https://www.dawn.com/news/1916524 United States Central Command (Centcom) commander Army General Michael Kurilla on Wednesday praised Pakistan as a “phenomenal partner in the world of counter-terrorism”, citing the nation’s struggle against terrorism in Balochistan and against terrorist groups like the Islamic State-Khorasan (IS-K). |
Anonymous
lol US government and military too dumb to know how they are being played by the Pakistanis. Pakistan also helped North Korea with nuclear weapons in return for ballistic missiles tech in addition to funded every extremist terrorist group in the region. |
Anonymous
Anonymous
It's called diplomacy and jockeying for long-term influence in the Middle East, PP. Of course the Saudis benefit from good relations with their neighbors, and the US, whom it sees as a superpower who is active in the region, due to oil, and due to its ties with Israel. If you see Superpower Number 1 being all pally with Israel, and you live in the same region, it behooves you to also be chummy with the US, to ensure that not every privilege flies to Israel and that there is a balance of power. The Saudis are past master in this and have been doing it to several Presidential administrations. Qatar and the UAE have more recently gotten in on it too. Jordan wields soft power due to its photogenic monarchy. They're all trying to play nice. Iran is the pariah in the Middle East. Not Israel. Saudis want a marriage of convenience with the West and the Israelis. No one wants to be friends with Iran, because they're poor and incredibly rigid in their extremism. Israel has the bomb and the support of the West (however unearned!). Interestingly, if Iran develops a nuclear weapon, all the Muslims countries will be a lot more circumspect with it 
It's all of a game of power, and what I find hilarious is that of all the nations involved, it's Iran who sticks to its values (horrific though they may be) through thick and thin. The rest couldn't care less about morals and principles. They follow the money and influence. |
Anonymous
Because Iran is poor??? lol For what reason? And for how much longer? Utter stupidity when its future-term allies are better positioned in the area than Israel or Saudi Arabia. The GCC will have no choice but to ally with Iran or bend the knee in the future. Iran produces scientists and mathematicians. Arabs produce what? |
Anonymous
| A lot of Israeli trolls trying to prevent peace on here tonight. Shame on you. |
Anonymous
Israeli aggression is not "Western Imperialism". It's Israeli imperialism. |
Anonymous
Iranian Poster, you need to distinguish between reasoned argument and airing of prejudices. You're not credible when you say stuff like that. It destroys every argument you make. Rein yourself in. |
Anonymous
Anonymous
DP. Oh only pro Israel posts are allowed? Iran would maybe made such a better ally vs Israel. |
Anonymous
Modern terrorism was originated from the founders of Israel so this should not surprise anyone. Look at acts of terror like the King David Hotel Bombing and Operation Cast thy Bread as examples. |
Anonymous
The Israelis say shalom (peace) but don’t mean it |