Option B Alternate - Adding extra ES to WJ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Today at the BOE meeting, the central office stood behind the Superintendent’s recommendation.

However…to respond to some comments, they propose an alternative to the BOE that would cut Viers Mill Elementary in two for split articulation. The half in the walk zone to Wheaton would go to Wheaton. The other half would go to WJ. This is instead of all of VMES going to Woodward.

Thoughts?

This compromise is certainly more balanced then Taylor's recommendation.

I’m Woodward regardless. Is it? I guess I’m in favor of my school being less crowded but it looks like musical chairs.

WJ 77 to 84
Wheaton 86 to 93
Woodward 91 to 76

I don’t think balance is the right word here because it’s similar utilization rates just houses differently.

FARMS balance

WJ from 15.3 to 17.7
Wheaton from 59.2 to 58.7
Woodward from 35.2 to 32.2

Did it move the needle that much?

I agree it basically just moves around utilization rates without much change to farms. I guess a smidge but nothing meaningful worth breaking up communities over.

Are those official numbers? They don't look quite right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today at the BOE meeting, the central office stood behind the Superintendent’s recommendation.

However…to respond to some comments, they propose an alternative to the BOE that would cut Viers Mill Elementary in two for split articulation. The half in the walk zone to Wheaton would go to Wheaton. The other half would go to WJ. This is instead of all of VMES going to Woodward.

Thoughts?

This compromise is certainly more balanced then Taylor's recommendation.

I’m Woodward regardless. Is it? I guess I’m in favor of my school being less crowded but it looks like musical chairs.

WJ 77 to 84
Wheaton 86 to 93
Woodward 91 to 76

I don’t think balance is the right word here because it’s similar utilization rates just houses differently.

FARMS balance

WJ from 15.3 to 17.7
Wheaton from 59.2 to 58.7
Woodward from 35.2 to 32.2

Did it move the needle that much?

I agree it basically just moves around utilization rates without much change to farms. I guess a smidge but nothing meaningful worth breaking up communities over.

Some communities will be breaking up in all scenarios.

So break up some more?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are there slides so we can see the actual proposal?

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DRTS9E719460/$file/Supt%20Rec%20Secondary%20Prog%20Analysis%20Boundary%20Studies%20260303%20PPT%20REV.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today at the BOE meeting, the central office stood behind the Superintendent’s recommendation.

However…to respond to some comments, they propose an alternative to the BOE that would cut Viers Mill Elementary in two for split articulation. The half in the walk zone to Wheaton would go to Wheaton. The other half would go to WJ. This is instead of all of VMES going to Woodward.

Thoughts?

This compromise is certainly more balanced then Taylor's recommendation.

I’m Woodward regardless. Is it? I guess I’m in favor of my school being less crowded but it looks like musical chairs.

WJ 77 to 84
Wheaton 86 to 93
Woodward 91 to 76

I don’t think balance is the right word here because it’s similar utilization rates just houses differently.

I wonder if they considered keeping half of VMES at Woodward and moving half of VMES to WJ, instead of moving half to Wheaton. This maybe would have created more equitable utilization rates across WJ, Wheaton, and Woodward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today at the BOE meeting, the central office stood behind the Superintendent’s recommendation.

However…to respond to some comments, they propose an alternative to the BOE that would cut Viers Mill Elementary in two for split articulation. The half in the walk zone to Wheaton would go to Wheaton. The other half would go to WJ. This is instead of all of VMES going to Woodward.

Thoughts?

This compromise is certainly more balanced then Taylor's recommendation.

I’m Woodward regardless. Is it? I guess I’m in favor of my school being less crowded but it looks like musical chairs.

WJ 77 to 84
Wheaton 86 to 93
Woodward 91 to 76

I don’t think balance is the right word here because it’s similar utilization rates just houses differently.

I wonder if they considered keeping half of VMES at Woodward and moving half of VMES to WJ, instead of moving half to Wheaton. This maybe would have created more equitable utilization rates across WJ, Wheaton, and Woodward.

You mean equal, not equitable.

And no, it wouldn't. Only Wheaton has 500 ghost seats added to it in the calculations. If those seats existed they would already be using it. As it is Wheaton is very overcrowded as it has only 2200 seats

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today at the BOE meeting, the central office stood behind the Superintendent’s recommendation.

However…to respond to some comments, they propose an alternative to the BOE that would cut Viers Mill Elementary in two for split articulation. The half in the walk zone to Wheaton would go to Wheaton. The other half would go to WJ. This is instead of all of VMES going to Woodward.

Thoughts?

This compromise is certainly more balanced then Taylor's recommendation.

I’m Woodward regardless. Is it? I guess I’m in favor of my school being less crowded but it looks like musical chairs.

WJ 77 to 84
Wheaton 86 to 93
Woodward 91 to 76

I don’t think balance is the right word here because it’s similar utilization rates just houses differently.

FARMS balance

WJ from 15.3 to 17.7
Wheaton from 59.2 to 58.7
Woodward from 35.2 to 32.2

Did it move the needle that much?

I agree it basically just moves around utilization rates without much change to farms. I guess a smidge but nothing meaningful worth breaking up communities over.

Are those official numbers? They don't look quite right.

From slides: Woodward numbers are 35.7% to 32.1%.

Also, there is a slide on number of unbuilt units in WJ vs. Woodward cluster under the superintendent's recommendation. There are 100 more single family units in Woodward vs. WJ. It makes perfect sense to leave Woodward at lower utilization than WJ.

Finally, they say that Flo Analytics contributed to the superintendent's recommendation. For some reason he keeps going to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today at the BOE meeting, the central office stood behind the Superintendent’s recommendation.

However…to respond to some comments, they propose an alternative to the BOE that would cut Viers Mill Elementary in two for split articulation. The half in the walk zone to Wheaton would go to Wheaton. The other half would go to WJ. This is instead of all of VMES going to Woodward.

Thoughts?

This compromise is certainly more balanced than Taylor's recommendation.

It does make sense to send kids in the walk zone to Wheaton.

The supposed “walk zone” requires crossing Randolph rd, viers mill rd, and Connecticut. I would never want to let a 14/15 year old walk that route

This is a good point. Some pretty terrible intersections of big roads and drivers who go very fast

[Anonymous]

I kind of feel like the VMES split is a poison pill from Taylor. You want an alternative with better utilization balance - here, now you get to see how everyone hates it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today at the BOE meeting, the central office stood behind the Superintendent’s recommendation.

However…to respond to some comments, they propose an alternative to the BOE that would cut Viers Mill Elementary in two for split articulation. The half in the walk zone to Wheaton would go to Wheaton. The other half would go to WJ. This is instead of all of VMES going to Woodward.

Thoughts?

This compromise is certainly more balanced then Taylor's recommendation.

I’m Woodward regardless. Is it? I guess I’m in favor of my school being less crowded but it looks like musical chairs.

WJ 77 to 84
Wheaton 86 to 93
Woodward 91 to 76

I don’t think balance is the right word here because it’s similar utilization rates just houses differently.

FARMS balance

WJ from 15.3 to 17.7
Wheaton from 59.2 to 58.7
Woodward from 35.7 to 32.1

Did it move the needle that much?

I agree it basically just moves around utilization rates without much change to farms. I guess a smidge but nothing meaningful worth breaking up communities over.

So you are saying just send the whole VMES to WJ as the Option B Alternate recommended. More meaningful FARMS balance and no breaking up communities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I kind of feel like the VMES split is a poison pill from Taylor. You want an alternative with better utilization balance - here, now you get to see how everyone hates it

Yea this alternative isn’t that good

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today at the BOE meeting, the central office stood behind the Superintendent’s recommendation.

However…to respond to some comments, they propose an alternative to the BOE that would cut Viers Mill Elementary in two for split articulation. The half in the walk zone to Wheaton would go to Wheaton. The other half would go to WJ. This is instead of all of VMES going to Woodward.

Thoughts?

This compromise is certainly more balanced then Taylor's recommendation.

I’m Woodward regardless. Is it? I guess I’m in favor of my school being less crowded but it looks like musical chairs.

WJ 77 to 84
Wheaton 86 to 93
Woodward 91 to 76

I don’t think balance is the right word here because it’s similar utilization rates just houses differently.

FARMS balance

WJ from 15.3 to 17.7
Wheaton from 59.2 to 58.7
Woodward from 35.2 to 32.2

Did it move the needle that much?

I agree it basically just moves around utilization rates without much change to farms. I guess a smidge but nothing meaningful worth breaking up communities over.

15.3 to 17.7 ??? That WJ poster will get a heart attack.

Woodward projecting. I guess it isn’t enough for Farmland.

[Anonymous]

Glad they are acknowledging that Woodward utilization was starting too high. Odd not to just go to Option B at this point rather than split VM. I don’t like split articulation, but it seems like the BOE and Taylor care more about being contrary at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Glad they are acknowledging that Woodward utilization was starting too high. Odd not to just go to Option B at this point rather than split VM. I don’t like split articulation, but it seems like the BOE and Taylor care more about being contrary at this point.

So the counter is Wheaton too high and VM being split unnecessarily. The original seems better and likely what they adopt

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Today at the BOE meeting, the central office stood behind the Superintendent’s recommendation.

However…to respond to some comments, they propose an alternative to the BOE that would cut Viers Mill Elementary in two for split articulation. The half in the walk zone to Wheaton would go to Wheaton. The other half would go to WJ. This is instead of all of VMES going to Woodward.

Thoughts?

This compromise is certainly more balanced then Taylor's recommendation.

I’m Woodward regardless. Is it? I guess I’m in favor of my school being less crowded but it looks like musical chairs.

WJ 77 to 84
Wheaton 86 to 93
Woodward 91 to 76

I don’t think balance is the right word here because it’s similar utilization rates just houses differently.

FARMS balance

WJ from 15.3 to 17.7
Wheaton from 59.2 to 58.7
Woodward from 35.7 to 32.1

Did it move the needle that much?

I agree it basically just moves around utilization rates without much change to farms. I guess a smidge but nothing meaningful worth breaking up communities over.

So you are saying just send the whole VMES to WJ as the Option B Alternate recommended. More meaningful FARMS balance and no breaking up communities.

Yea. I’m from Luxmanor and thought what our neighbors presented would gain traction. Guess it is DOA

[Anonymous]

Option B alternate is certainly better than the Sup. recommendation.