Israel strikes Iran despite Trump's nuclear deal hopes

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA will go crazy if he attacks Iran. He has to know Israel does not have support in maga world nor does getting involved in a war in Asia.

This would be the end of Trump and the Republicans.

I don’t listen to maga podcasts, so what are the Bannons, Kirk’s, and Rogans, Tuckers, et al saying about this matter.

MAGA media is dumping Trump over war with Iran. They are saying they are America First and not “Israel First,” and that Trump lied to them.

To be fair maga media is pretty dumb. The election was an obvious choice between war with Russia (Harris) or war with Iran (Trump). Trump was still the right choice.

What people need to start asking is why those were the only two options.

You are out of your mind. Harris wasn’t going to get us in war with Russia. Ukraine was handling it, so she’d continue to rightfully fund it. Rather than the felon diverting promised Ukrainian weapons to Israel.

Also, while I vehemently disagree with MAGA DCUM that the felon is a peacenik, it was not clear he was going to willfully attack Iran.

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Iran is full of some of the world’s most enlightened minds. Even her leadership isn’t going to sacrifice the whole country and all the countrymen to nuke another city. Iranians are full of pride. They aren’t self-sacrificial.

So, your premise is wrong. The rest of what you wrote is wrong too. Syria, Jordan, and iraq aren’t ‘allowing’ it. They have been crumbled because of Israel’s geopolitical aims (greater Israel and preventive defense).

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Anonymous wrote:Israel’s greatest threat isn’t Iran or Hamas. It’s their own hubris and Benjamin Netanyahu

This.

Netanyahu and his right wing extremist government is for the 2nd time in history attempting to manipulate the American National Security team into another Middle East war. Evidence shows it was Israel that supplied false intelligence that Saddam Hussein had " weapons of mass destruction " the fake yellow cake uranium " evidence" was actually a forgery and Germ Intel was telling USA Intel agencies that the Iraqi informer in Germany was a known fabricator.

Yet, as Katz, the President of Israel, today publicly admitted and gloated:https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-attacks-06-17-25-intl-hnk" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-attacks-06-17-25-intl-hnk
“I warn the Iranian dictator from continuing to commit war crimes and firing missiles at Israeli citizens,” Katz said at a meeting of senior Israeli military officials in Tel Aviv.

“He should remember what was the fate of a dictator in a country neighboring Iran who chose this path against the state of Israel,” Katz added "

America had a 2 trillion dollar peace dividend surplus in 2001, prior to invading Iraq ( at Israel's behest ) and that war resulted in our country's debt balloting to trillions of dollars, not to mention the tens of thousands of American soldiers killed, wounded and with PTSD, the drop in the Us military and CIA recruitment abilities due to dissallusionment of American young people . Then there is the fact that US invasion of Iraq did not lead to stability in region- it lead to chaos and formation of ISIS .

ALL OF THIS was insigated by the right wing fundamentalist government of Israel. Netanyahu is bringing destruction to tens of millions of people in the ME and has set the region back decades in terms of the ability to move into constructive relations. He and his gov't are the problem, not the Arab peoples of the world or ...now the Persian people who he has decided must also die like the people of Gaza.

Now Israel is again feeding false intel to a US POTUS through alternate Intel channels just like they did in 2001. And bragging about it...

President Donald Trump disputed his own director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, on how developed Iran’s nuclear capabilities were and said Iran was on the verge of obtaining a nuclear weapon when Israel struck in recent days.

Asked where he personally stands on how close Iran was to getting a nuclear weapon, given what Gabbard testified just months ago, Trump told reporters on Air Force One, “Very close.”

When pressed on Gabbard’s specific testimony that they weren’t, Trump said, “I don’t care what she said. I think they were very close to having it.”

Remember: Gabbard testified in March that the intelligence community “continues to assess Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Khamenei has not authorized a nuclear weapons program that he suspended in 2003.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Israel’s greatest threat isn’t Iran or Hamas. It’s their own hubris and Benjamin Netanyahu

This.

Netanyahu and his right wing extremist government is for the 2nd time in history attempting to manipulate the American National Security team into another Middle East war. Evidence shows it was Israel that supplied false intelligence that Saddam Hussein had " weapons of mass destruction " the fake yellow cake uranium " evidence" was actually a forgery and Germ Intel was telling USA Intel agencies that the Iraqi informer in Germany was a known fabricator.

Yet, as Katz, the President of Israel, today publicly admitted and gloated:https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-attacks-06-17-25-intl-hnk" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-attacks-06-17-25-intl-hnk
“I warn the Iranian dictator from continuing to commit war crimes and firing missiles at Israeli citizens,” Katz said at a meeting of senior Israeli military officials in Tel Aviv.

“He should remember what was the fate of a dictator in a country neighboring Iran who chose this path against the state of Israel,” Katz added "

America had a 2 trillion dollar peace dividend surplus in 2001, prior to invading Iraq ( at Israel's behest ) and that war resulted in our country's debt balloting to trillions of dollars, not to mention the tens of thousands of American soldiers killed, wounded and with PTSD, the drop in the Us military and CIA recruitment abilities due to dissallusionment of American young people . Then there is the fact that US invasion of Iraq did not lead to stability in region- it lead to chaos and formation of ISIS .

ALL OF THIS was insigated by the right wing fundamentalist government of Israel. Netanyahu is bringing destruction to tens of millions of people in the ME and has set the region back decades in terms of the ability to move into constructive relations. He and his gov't are the problem, not the Arab peoples of the world or ...now the Persian people who he has decided must also die like the people of Gaza.

Now Israel is again feeding false intel to a US POTUS through alternate Intel channels just like they did in 2001. And bragging about it...

President Donald Trump disputed his own director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, on how developed Iran’s nuclear capabilities were and said Iran was on the verge of obtaining a nuclear weapon when Israel struck in recent days.

Asked where he personally stands on how close Iran was to getting a nuclear weapon, given what Gabbard testified just months ago, Trump told reporters on Air Force One, “Very close.”

When pressed on Gabbard’s specific testimony that they weren’t, Trump said, “I don’t care what she said. I think they were very close to having it.”

Remember: Gabbard testified in March that the intelligence community “continues to assess Iran is not building a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Khamenei has not authorized a nuclear weapons program that he suspended in 2003.”

Ehud olmert, ex-prime minister, believes the greatest threat to Israel are those within who believe in conquering and ethnically cleansing Gaza for annexation. Although that's a very large percentage of the population.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-08-10/ty-article/.premium/while-israel-battles-multiple-fronts-its-gravest-threat-is-simmering-from-within/00000191-3d24-d057-afb1-7ff6fa010000

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Every day I think the US and Israel can’t be more evil, and every day the felon and Netanyahu and the people in both countries prove me wrong.

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Trump said the people of Tehran need to evacuate the city. That’s 17 million people. Is Israel going to drop a nuclear bomb?

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No, Israel doesn’t need to.

[Anonymous]

Israel doesn’t need to do a lot of things… but is the cruelty the point?

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA will go crazy if he attacks Iran. He has to know Israel does not have support in maga world nor does getting involved in a war in Asia.

This would be the end of Trump and the Republicans.

I don’t listen to maga podcasts, so what are the Bannons, Kirk’s, and Rogans, Tuckers, et al saying about this matter.

MAGA media is dumping Trump over war with Iran. They are saying they are America First and not “Israel First,” and that Trump lied to them.

To be fair maga media is pretty dumb. The election was an obvious choice between war with Russia (Harris) or war with Iran (Trump). Trump was still the right choice.

What people need to start asking is why those were the only two options.

You are out of your mind. Harris wasn’t going to get us in war with Russia. Ukraine was handling it, so she’d continue to rightfully fund it. Rather than the felon diverting promised Ukrainian weapons to Israel.

Also, while I vehemently disagree with MAGA DCUM that the felon is a peacenik, it was not clear he was going to willfully attack Iran.

+1

[Anonymous]

The absurdity of Trump is that he may get directly involved just to project military strength given how poorly-received his parade was around the world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MAGA will go crazy if he attacks Iran. He has to know Israel does not have support in maga world nor does getting involved in a war in Asia.

This would be the end of Trump and the Republicans.

I don’t listen to maga podcasts, so what are the Bannons, Kirk’s, and Rogans, Tuckers, et al saying about this matter.

MAGA media is dumping Trump over war with Iran. They are saying they are America First and not “Israel First,” and that Trump lied to them.

There is zero conservative support for a war with Iran. The Republican base may accept a B2 dropping a MOP on Iran's underground nuclear facility, but anything more than that will lead to a Republican revolt. Not our war is the general sentiment among conservatives. I think this is the one issue where there is broad bipartisan consensus - no one wants a war with Iran.

The problem is that there is no way Iran can be allowed to have nuclear weapons at this point in time. Tel Aviv and Riyadh will be vaporized the moment Iran has the capability. So, how to bring about a non-nuclear Iran without US military involvement is the question. I'm not sure Israel has the capability. But you'll notice that Jordan, Syria, and Iraq are all allowing Israel to conduct operations in their air space. There is a broad consensus in the Middle East that Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons.

So Iranians want to kill Palestinians and the Islamic republic of Iran wants to destroy the home of Islam -Saudi Arabia ? Nobody will be vaporized.

If anybody is, it will be Iranians thanks to Israel dropping their dirty bomb.

Every accusation is a confession

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Probably the dumbest story yet is the one Netanyahu told about the skinny 19 year old PA shooter being an Iranian proxy.

I don’t know if they’re just getting older and rustier or they think we are stupid but the propaganda is getting sloppier and sloppier

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Anonymous wrote:The US is applying a lot of pressure on Iran right now. They transferred more than 30 USAF tanker planes to the region last night. The Nimitz air craft carrier group is on its way. Trump has told everyone in Tehran to evacuate. And he has just left the G7 a day early and is convening the National Security Council in the Situation Room tonight. I'd say Iran has about 12 hours to decide to abandon its nuclear program. And if they don't, I suspect there might be a couple of B-2s in the air soon delivering a few $50 million 10,000 pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator bombs to destroy Iran's underground nuclear facilities at Fordow. The ball is in Iran's court now.

Foolish. Absolutely foolish.

Why do we keep falling for neocon rhetoric over and over? They are always disastrously wrong.

“we” arent falling for it. Republicans are.

For sure some Democrats are. Look how silent they are.

What's done is done. This war won't end until Iran's nuclear and missile programs are finished. There is zero chance that Saudi Arabia and Israel can live with a nuclear threat from Iran at this point. I really hope Iran's regime concedes the loss sooner rather than later. The US is moving all sorts of assets to the area. If Iran doesn't give up its nuclear and missile programs, I suspect the US and Israel will obliterate Iran's military forces from the air until there is regime change, whether by popular uprising or coup. But that leads to chaos in a giant country with 90 million people.

What they are doing is leaving us open to attack from China and Russia. We will be openly vulnerable, all to defend Israel. It is insanity.

How?

Hawaii just had a completely unannounced emergency alert test a few days ago. Why do you think?

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2025/06/13/breaking-news/city-officials-no-emergency-after-hi-ema-test-alert/#

Essentially we are sending defensive resources to the Middle East, leaving the US itself more vulnerable. Good thing Israel will be safe though.

We have 11 aircraft carriers.

We also have 14 Ohio Class ballistic submarines (Trident) that can launch MIRVs and TLAMs.

We have a metric s***-ton of military hardware to bring to bear.

Your turn.

Sure. Tell me the last time the US successfully got involved in a ME war where it benefited in the end, and then tell me the last time that happened when there was a waiting superpower with demonstrable military power waiting for the US to be exceptionally vulnerable.

Now do this in an era of cyberwar, autonomous drones where the other superpower is demonstrably better at those drones, and where we have a disorganized leadership structure under Hegseth and a visibly demoralized rank and file (see: parade).

We can’t fight a two front war. And our distraction in the ME would be an excellent time to strike. We aren’t ready. And China is.

So silly on so many levels.

PP here. So you have no answers. You know I am absolutely correct but cannot admit it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Israel’s greatest threat isn’t Iran or Hamas. It’s their own hubris and Benjamin Netanyahu

You need to shut up.

Why? That PP is exactly right.

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Anonymous wrote:The US is applying a lot of pressure on Iran right now. They transferred more than 30 USAF tanker planes to the region last night. The Nimitz air craft carrier group is on its way. Trump has told everyone in Tehran to evacuate. And he has just left the G7 a day early and is convening the National Security Council in the Situation Room tonight. I'd say Iran has about 12 hours to decide to abandon its nuclear program. And if they don't, I suspect there might be a couple of B-2s in the air soon delivering a few $50 million 10,000 pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator bombs to destroy Iran's underground nuclear facilities at Fordow. The ball is in Iran's court now.

Foolish. Absolutely foolish.

Why do we keep falling for neocon rhetoric over and over? They are always disastrously wrong.

“we” arent falling for it. Republicans are.

For sure some Democrats are. Look how silent they are.

What's done is done. This war won't end until Iran's nuclear and missile programs are finished. There is zero chance that Saudi Arabia and Israel can live with a nuclear threat from Iran at this point. I really hope Iran's regime concedes the loss sooner rather than later. The US is moving all sorts of assets to the area. If Iran doesn't give up its nuclear and missile programs, I suspect the US and Israel will obliterate Iran's military forces from the air until there is regime change, whether by popular uprising or coup. But that leads to chaos in a giant country with 90 million people.

What they are doing is leaving us open to attack from China and Russia. We will be openly vulnerable, all to defend Israel. It is insanity.

It does give China moral authority to invade Taiwan by any means necessary. If I was China, I would take full advantage of the USA’s engagement in the Middle East. If USA can attack at will and regime change, why can’t China, or Russia for that matter.

Yes, exactly. If the US attacks Iran, China will go for Taiwan.