Does your community pool have a dress code?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the analogy from a few pages back about a girl in a thong basically being the same as a guy who pulls out his dick in public is spot-on.

Both are engaged in exhibitionism, for a sexual thrill. Both are choosing to expose themselves to other people, typically strangers, without the consent or approval of the people they’re exposing themselves too. Both are in effect victimizing people around them by exposing intimate parts of their bodies to people who might not want to see that.


If I’m wrong, please explain *why*. Explain the functional difference between the two examples. There is no need to call me names, call me a pervert, a pedophile, a creep or whatever. Just explain why the two examples aren’t the same. Because I think they are. If you don’t, explain why they’re different.

A penis is considered genitals. It is illegal to display genitals in public.
Butt cheeks or buttocks are muscles. You are already seeing butt cheeks when you go to the pool, I don't get outrage at an extra inch of skin.

They’re both being exposed for a sexual thrill. There is no functional difference. Breasts are neither genitals nor muscle but it generally not acceptable for a woman
to walk around topless at an American public pool.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the analogy from a few pages back about a girl in a thong basically being the same as a guy who pulls out his dick in public is spot-on.

Both are engaged in exhibitionism, for a sexual thrill. Both are choosing to expose themselves to other people, typically strangers, without the consent or approval of the people they’re exposing themselves too. Both are in effect victimizing people around them by exposing intimate parts of their bodies to people who might not want to see that.


If I’m wrong, please explain *why*. Explain the functional difference between the two examples. There is no need to call me names, call me a pervert, a pedophile, a creep or whatever. Just explain why the two examples aren’t the same. Because I think they are. If you don’t, explain why they’re different.

A penis is considered genitals. It is illegal to display genitals in public.
Butt cheeks or buttocks are muscles. You are already seeing butt cheeks when you go to the pool, I don't get outrage at an extra inch of skin.

What would outrage you? Anything you don't think should be allowed at children's pools?

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Anonymous wrote:16 year olds are dressing sexy to be attractive to other young people. They do not think their friend’s moms and dads are sexualizing them and getting boners. They actually think that adults aren’t being creepy about kids. Of course you’ll notice the bathing suit but it doesn’t need to be sexual for you. Good Lord!

People don't choose to make things sexual, it just is.

Adults can choose not to do anything about it.

Exactly.

A man can look at a fully developed 16 yo who is clearly putting herself on display, and he can think in his head “man, that’s hot.” Then he can go about his day.

This is probably exactly what’s happening now. I don’t see the big deal.

- woman

Check this persons hard drive. yikes.

If you think that 99% of men aren’t doing this, then I have a bridge to sell you.

I recently saw on twitter that there is a reddit forum about dads who are attracted to their daughters, and wish to see them naked. So yes, it happens. And yes, it's sick. These are children, be a f***ing adult and stop sexualizing minors.

Do you honestly think it’s NOT a reflexive thought when they see almost completely exposed 16-17-18 yo girls in skimpy bathing suits? You think they actually control this thought process?

And I’m not talking about dads and daughters, that’s an entirely different story.

Yes, I think - and expect - men to control themselves around children. Stop being disgusting.

Ok, you’re a Troll.


There’s no way you aren’t. One minute you’re calling them “women”, who should be allowed to dress however they want, and the next minute you’re calling them children who are being taken advantage of by men looking at them.


You’re a troll. You’re just here to stir sh!t.

Go away.

I'm the troll? Not the person who thinks wearing a thong is equivalent to f***ing in the shallow end of a pool? L-O-f**king-L.
I do think women should be able to dress how they want. One specific poster said she would eye-f*** a 16 year old girl, which is straight up disgusting. Men and this female poster should be able to control themselves in public around kids dressed in swim suits.

At this point, those posters all sound more honest and more sane than you.

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I’m surprised she isn’t advocating to have males removed from pools completely

Give her a few more posts.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the analogy from a few pages back about a girl in a thong basically being the same as a guy who pulls out his dick in public is spot-on.

Both are engaged in exhibitionism, for a sexual thrill. Both are choosing to expose themselves to other people, typically strangers, without the consent or approval of the people they’re exposing themselves too. Both are in effect victimizing people around them by exposing intimate parts of their bodies to people who might not want to see that.


If I’m wrong, please explain *why*. Explain the functional difference between the two examples. There is no need to call me names, call me a pervert, a pedophile, a creep or whatever. Just explain why the two examples aren’t the same. Because I think they are. If you don’t, explain why they’re different.

A penis is considered genitals. It is illegal to display genitals in public.
Butt cheeks or buttocks are muscles. You are already seeing butt cheeks when you go to the pool, I don't get outrage at an extra inch of skin.

They’re both being exposed for a sexual thrill. There is no functional difference. Breasts are neither genitals nor muscle but it generally not acceptable for a woman
to walk around topless at an American public pool.

According to DC law, it's completely legal and acceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:16 year olds are dressing sexy to be attractive to other young people. They do not think their friend’s moms and dads are sexualizing them and getting boners. They actually think that adults aren’t being creepy about kids. Of course you’ll notice the bathing suit but it doesn’t need to be sexual for you. Good Lord!

People don't choose to make things sexual, it just is.

Adults can choose not to do anything about it.

Exactly.

A man can look at a fully developed 16 yo who is clearly putting herself on display, and he can think in his head “man, that’s hot.” Then he can go about his day.

This is probably exactly what’s happening now. I don’t see the big deal.

- woman

Check this persons hard drive. yikes.

If you think that 99% of men aren’t doing this, then I have a bridge to sell you.

I recently saw on twitter that there is a reddit forum about dads who are attracted to their daughters, and wish to see them naked. So yes, it happens. And yes, it's sick. These are children, be a f***ing adult and stop sexualizing minors.

Do you honestly think it’s NOT a reflexive thought when they see almost completely exposed 16-17-18 yo girls in skimpy bathing suits? You think they actually control this thought process?

And I’m not talking about dads and daughters, that’s an entirely different story.

Yes, I think - and expect - men to control themselves around children. Stop being disgusting.

Ok, you’re a Troll.


There’s no way you aren’t. One minute you’re calling them “women”, who should be allowed to dress however they want, and the next minute you’re calling them children who are being taken advantage of by men looking at them.


You’re a troll. You’re just here to stir sh!t.

Go away.

I'm the troll? Not the person who thinks wearing a thong is equivalent to f***ing in the shallow end of a pool? L-O-f**king-L.
I do think women should be able to dress how they want. One specific poster said she would eye-f*** a 16 year old girl, which is straight up disgusting. Men and this female poster should be able to control themselves in public around kids dressed in swim suits.

At this point, those posters all sound more honest and more sane than you.

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I’m surprised she isn’t advocating to have males removed from pools completely

I mean, she is constantly talking about seeing the outline of a penis in a thread about thongs. I'm sure someone here can make a Freudian diagnosis of all her issues.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the analogy from a few pages back about a girl in a thong basically being the same as a guy who pulls out his dick in public is spot-on.

Both are engaged in exhibitionism, for a sexual thrill. Both are choosing to expose themselves to other people, typically strangers, without the consent or approval of the people they’re exposing themselves too. Both are in effect victimizing people around them by exposing intimate parts of their bodies to people who might not want to see that.


If I’m wrong, please explain *why*. Explain the functional difference between the two examples. There is no need to call me names, call me a pervert, a pedophile, a creep or whatever. Just explain why the two examples aren’t the same. Because I think they are. If you don’t, explain why they’re different.

A penis is considered genitals. It is illegal to display genitals in public.
Butt cheeks or buttocks are muscles. You are already seeing butt cheeks when you go to the pool, I don't get outrage at an extra inch of skin.

They’re both being exposed for a sexual thrill. There is no functional difference. Breasts are neither genitals nor muscle but it generally not acceptable for a woman
to walk around topless at an American public pool.

According to DC law, it's completely legal and acceptable.

This thread isn't called "Does your legal jurisdiction have a legal prohibition against topless bathing?".

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Anonymous wrote:I think the analogy from a few pages back about a girl in a thong basically being the same as a guy who pulls out his dick in public is spot-on.

Both are engaged in exhibitionism, for a sexual thrill. Both are choosing to expose themselves to other people, typically strangers, without the consent or approval of the people they’re exposing themselves too. Both are in effect victimizing people around them by exposing intimate parts of their bodies to people who might not want to see that.


If I’m wrong, please explain *why*. Explain the functional difference between the two examples. There is no need to call me names, call me a pervert, a pedophile, a creep or whatever. Just explain why the two examples aren’t the same. Because I think they are. If you don’t, explain why they’re different.

Because one is illegal and the other is a sartorial choice you disapprove of? (which is your right, of course).

Your first paragraph assumes a lot of things that aren't universally true (e.g., many people don't feel victimized or even scandalized by a smaller than average bikini). We as society are not okay with people exposing their genitals in public, which is why it's illegal. We as a society are, generally, okay with smaller than average bikinis, so people are free to wear them.

I mean, if some chick walking by you in a thong elicits the same response from you as some dude waving his dick around at the pool? It seems like you have a real problem with perspective.

I grew up in South Florida, where thongs on women were common, and thongs on men were rare, but not unheard of. Children at the beach saw them all the time, and nobody was traumatized. But, if some dude exposed himself to people, he'd likely end up handcuffed in the back of a cop car.

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Thongs =/= see through swim suits
Thongs = appropriate swim wear

Why is this thread still going

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a lot. I swear half the reason my preteen has decided they’re nonbinary is because they have no desire to dress like typical girls and is fairly horrified. Short shorts, crop tops, and cheeky bathing suits appall her. Since hitting puberty at age 10 she would rather cover it all up.

I try to remind myself it’s so great these kids have such body confidence - but I also find the suits distracting. And I’m not sexualizing anybody - just noticing the girls are nearly naked.

Funny how the men aren’t wearing banana hammocks with their checks hanging out.

Something that struck me as—well I was going to write odd but really it’s just different culture— is that in a lot of European countries “swimming briefs” (like speedos and jammers) are way more common in casual settings. Common amongst all ages.

Like, here in the U.S. it’s a bit odd to see guys wearing those in a situation other than competitive swimming. Not so in Europe.

In fact, in France public pools are required by law to enforce a “swimming briefs only” dress code. No trunks, board shorts, etc. Just swimming briefs allowed. You will get called out on it and forced to purchase a swim briefs on location if you want to continue to swim.

Why? Why do they care if we wear trunks?

Yeah, that's a weird rule.

Rules banning non-swimming clothes make sense, because those fibers can clog pool filters. I can't think of any rationale for banning larger swimsuits, though.

Also, to be clear, people are citing Europeans as an example of how we shouldn't make rules policing swimsuits, but the French will actually FORCE you to BUY another swimsuit if they don't like the one you have on?

I'm skeptical about this. This sounds like something that was lost in translation.

No one here is saying that people who wear thongs or display their erections should be forced to purchase different bathing suits.

Those two things aren't really the same, you know.

Can't say I've ever seen the latter at our pool.

But, you'd be okay with it?

The latter? No. But that's probably a vanishingly rare occurrence at the average pool. I mean, I grew up in Florida, which is much more of a beach and pool party culture. I never saw someone doing that.

Thongs? They don't bother me.

AH!

Finally, we have someone willing to condemn men displaying their erections. So, one more vote for dress code!

You’re the one who keeps bringing erections into the conversation. No one has said they’re okay with kids seeing them; everyone has asked you what that has to do with dress code. Are you saying men who might get an erection at the swimming pool should dress in a way that it wouldn’t be visible to other people? I will agree with that but honestly I’ve never seen someone dealing with that issue at my public pool so explicitly writing it into the dress code seems like overkill to me.

Ever see a murder happen? Still okay with murder being written into the law?

It's illegal to expose your genitalia at a pool.

It's not illegal to have an erection in public, though.

This thread really went off the rails. It's tough to see much of a parallel between smaller swimsuits and exposing one's genitals in public.

Men in thongs, men in see-thru suits... should they be allowed at children's pools?

Have you seen either of these things occur, or do they only exist in your over-heated imagination? And what's your definition of a children's pool? A pool where only kids and their parents are allowed?

Answer the question - should they be allowed?

As long as your genitalia isn't exposed, I'm fine with whatever swimsuit you want to wear to the pool. I also don't have a problem with women going topless to the pool.

So, a see-thru swimsuit would expose genitalia... so you are okay banning them?

They're already illegal in public, so it seems like the rule already exists.

Great, two votes for dress codes!

Now that we agree men shouldn't be allowed to wear bathing suits that permit them to pursue sexual activity at public pools... how about women? Should women be allowed to wear see-thru swimsuits?

What do you consider see through? Isn't that something that is already illegal in public? I have no issues with women going topless, which is also the law.

Why don't we just follow the "Dress code" set out by the laws in the place we live?

Answer the question—should women wear see-thru swimsuits at children's pools? You've already said men, shouldn't... would seem kinda weird to have a double standard here...

There is no double standard. Both things are illegal, so both things are already banned at your local public pool.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the analogy from a few pages back about a girl in a thong basically being the same as a guy who pulls out his dick in public is spot-on.

Both are engaged in exhibitionism, for a sexual thrill. Both are choosing to expose themselves to other people, typically strangers, without the consent or approval of the people they’re exposing themselves too. Both are in effect victimizing people around them by exposing intimate parts of their bodies to people who might not want to see that.


If I’m wrong, please explain *why*. Explain the functional difference between the two examples. There is no need to call me names, call me a pervert, a pedophile, a creep or whatever. Just explain why the two examples aren’t the same. Because I think they are. If you don’t, explain why they’re different.

Because one is illegal and the other is a sartorial choice you disapprove of? (which is your right, of course).

Your first paragraph assumes a lot of things that aren't universally true (e.g., many people don't feel victimized or even scandalized by a smaller than average bikini). We as society are not okay with people exposing their genitals in public, which is why it's illegal. We as a society are, generally, okay with smaller than average bikinis, so people are free to wear them.

I mean, if some chick walking by you in a thong elicits the same response from you as some dude waving his dick around at the pool? It seems like you have a real problem with perspective.

I grew up in South Florida, where thongs on women were common, and thongs on men were rare, but not unheard of. Children at the beach saw them all the time, and nobody was traumatized. But, if some dude exposed himself to people, he'd likely end up handcuffed in the back of a cop car.

Too long, just tell us whether you support a dress code.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a lot. I swear half the reason my preteen has decided they’re nonbinary is because they have no desire to dress like typical girls and is fairly horrified. Short shorts, crop tops, and cheeky bathing suits appall her. Since hitting puberty at age 10 she would rather cover it all up.

I try to remind myself it’s so great these kids have such body confidence - but I also find the suits distracting. And I’m not sexualizing anybody - just noticing the girls are nearly naked.

Funny how the men aren’t wearing banana hammocks with their checks hanging out.

Something that struck me as—well I was going to write odd but really it’s just different culture— is that in a lot of European countries “swimming briefs” (like speedos and jammers) are way more common in casual settings. Common amongst all ages.

Like, here in the U.S. it’s a bit odd to see guys wearing those in a situation other than competitive swimming. Not so in Europe.

In fact, in France public pools are required by law to enforce a “swimming briefs only” dress code. No trunks, board shorts, etc. Just swimming briefs allowed. You will get called out on it and forced to purchase a swim briefs on location if you want to continue to swim.

Why? Why do they care if we wear trunks?

Yeah, that's a weird rule.

Rules banning non-swimming clothes make sense, because those fibers can clog pool filters. I can't think of any rationale for banning larger swimsuits, though.

Also, to be clear, people are citing Europeans as an example of how we shouldn't make rules policing swimsuits, but the French will actually FORCE you to BUY another swimsuit if they don't like the one you have on?

I'm skeptical about this. This sounds like something that was lost in translation.

No one here is saying that people who wear thongs or display their erections should be forced to purchase different bathing suits.

Those two things aren't really the same, you know.

Can't say I've ever seen the latter at our pool.

But, you'd be okay with it?

The latter? No. But that's probably a vanishingly rare occurrence at the average pool. I mean, I grew up in Florida, which is much more of a beach and pool party culture. I never saw someone doing that.

Thongs? They don't bother me.

AH!

Finally, we have someone willing to condemn men displaying their erections. So, one more vote for dress code!

You’re the one who keeps bringing erections into the conversation. No one has said they’re okay with kids seeing them; everyone has asked you what that has to do with dress code. Are you saying men who might get an erection at the swimming pool should dress in a way that it wouldn’t be visible to other people? I will agree with that but honestly I’ve never seen someone dealing with that issue at my public pool so explicitly writing it into the dress code seems like overkill to me.

Ever see a murder happen? Still okay with murder being written into the law?

It's illegal to expose your genitalia at a pool.

It's not illegal to have an erection in public, though.

This thread really went off the rails. It's tough to see much of a parallel between smaller swimsuits and exposing one's genitals in public.

Men in thongs, men in see-thru suits... should they be allowed at children's pools?

Have you seen either of these things occur, or do they only exist in your over-heated imagination? And what's your definition of a children's pool? A pool where only kids and their parents are allowed?

Answer the question - should they be allowed?

As long as your genitalia isn't exposed, I'm fine with whatever swimsuit you want to wear to the pool. I also don't have a problem with women going topless to the pool.

So, a see-thru swimsuit would expose genitalia... so you are okay banning them?

They're already illegal in public, so it seems like the rule already exists.

Great, two votes for dress codes!

Now that we agree men shouldn't be allowed to wear bathing suits that permit them to pursue sexual activity at public pools... how about women? Should women be allowed to wear see-thru swimsuits?

Your already know see-through clothing that exposes the genitalia is illegal in public. This isn't a dress code issue, it's a legal issue.

It's like asking whether I support a rule against smoking crack at a public pool. The rule seems redundant since the activity in question is already illegal.

So... you're advocating for a children's pool where adults can smoke crack and display their erections? I think you're going backwards here..

You're either profoundly stupid or a troll. Or both.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the analogy from a few pages back about a girl in a thong basically being the same as a guy who pulls out his dick in public is spot-on.

Both are engaged in exhibitionism, for a sexual thrill. Both are choosing to expose themselves to other people, typically strangers, without the consent or approval of the people they’re exposing themselves too. Both are in effect victimizing people around them by exposing intimate parts of their bodies to people who might not want to see that.


If I’m wrong, please explain *why*. Explain the functional difference between the two examples. There is no need to call me names, call me a pervert, a pedophile, a creep or whatever. Just explain why the two examples aren’t the same. Because I think they are. If you don’t, explain why they’re different.

A penis is considered genitals. It is illegal to display genitals in public.
Butt cheeks or buttocks are muscles. You are already seeing butt cheeks when you go to the pool, I don't get outrage at an extra inch of skin.

They’re both being exposed for a sexual thrill. There is no functional difference. Breasts are neither genitals nor muscle but it generally not acceptable for a woman
to walk around topless at an American public pool.

According to DC law, it's completely legal and acceptable.

This thread isn't called "Does your legal jurisdiction have a legal prohibition against topless bathing?".

So why bother stating your opinion like a fact, if it is, not in fact, a fact?
Male and female toplessness is legal and allowed. Male and female bottom-less is not.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a lot. I swear half the reason my preteen has decided they’re nonbinary is because they have no desire to dress like typical girls and is fairly horrified. Short shorts, crop tops, and cheeky bathing suits appall her. Since hitting puberty at age 10 she would rather cover it all up.

I try to remind myself it’s so great these kids have such body confidence - but I also find the suits distracting. And I’m not sexualizing anybody - just noticing the girls are nearly naked.

Funny how the men aren’t wearing banana hammocks with their checks hanging out.

Something that struck me as—well I was going to write odd but really it’s just different culture— is that in a lot of European countries “swimming briefs” (like speedos and jammers) are way more common in casual settings. Common amongst all ages.

Like, here in the U.S. it’s a bit odd to see guys wearing those in a situation other than competitive swimming. Not so in Europe.

In fact, in France public pools are required by law to enforce a “swimming briefs only” dress code. No trunks, board shorts, etc. Just swimming briefs allowed. You will get called out on it and forced to purchase a swim briefs on location if you want to continue to swim.

Why? Why do they care if we wear trunks?

Yeah, that's a weird rule.

Rules banning non-swimming clothes make sense, because those fibers can clog pool filters. I can't think of any rationale for banning larger swimsuits, though.

Also, to be clear, people are citing Europeans as an example of how we shouldn't make rules policing swimsuits, but the French will actually FORCE you to BUY another swimsuit if they don't like the one you have on?

I'm skeptical about this. This sounds like something that was lost in translation.

No one here is saying that people who wear thongs or display their erections should be forced to purchase different bathing suits.

Those two things aren't really the same, you know.

Can't say I've ever seen the latter at our pool.

But, you'd be okay with it?

The latter? No. But that's probably a vanishingly rare occurrence at the average pool. I mean, I grew up in Florida, which is much more of a beach and pool party culture. I never saw someone doing that.

Thongs? They don't bother me.

AH!

Finally, we have someone willing to condemn men displaying their erections. So, one more vote for dress code!

You’re the one who keeps bringing erections into the conversation. No one has said they’re okay with kids seeing them; everyone has asked you what that has to do with dress code. Are you saying men who might get an erection at the swimming pool should dress in a way that it wouldn’t be visible to other people? I will agree with that but honestly I’ve never seen someone dealing with that issue at my public pool so explicitly writing it into the dress code seems like overkill to me.

Ever see a murder happen? Still okay with murder being written into the law?

It's illegal to expose your genitalia at a pool.

It's not illegal to have an erection in public, though.

This thread really went off the rails. It's tough to see much of a parallel between smaller swimsuits and exposing one's genitals in public.

Men in thongs, men in see-thru suits... should they be allowed at children's pools?

Have you seen either of these things occur, or do they only exist in your over-heated imagination? And what's your definition of a children's pool? A pool where only kids and their parents are allowed?

Answer the question - should they be allowed?

As long as your genitalia isn't exposed, I'm fine with whatever swimsuit you want to wear to the pool. I also don't have a problem with women going topless to the pool.

So, a see-thru swimsuit would expose genitalia... so you are okay banning them?

They're already illegal in public, so it seems like the rule already exists.

Great, two votes for dress codes!

Now that we agree men shouldn't be allowed to wear bathing suits that permit them to pursue sexual activity at public pools... how about women? Should women be allowed to wear see-thru swimsuits?

What do you consider see through? Isn't that something that is already illegal in public? I have no issues with women going topless, which is also the law.

Why don't we just follow the "Dress code" set out by the laws in the place we live?

Answer the question—should women wear see-thru swimsuits at children's pools? You've already said men, shouldn't... would seem kinda weird to have a double standard here...

There is no double standard. Both things are illegal, so both things are already banned at your local public pool.

What kind of Karen would call the police on someone for their swimsuit? Get a grip, dude!

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Anonymous wrote:I think the analogy from a few pages back about a girl in a thong basically being the same as a guy who pulls out his dick in public is spot-on.

Both are engaged in exhibitionism, for a sexual thrill. Both are choosing to expose themselves to other people, typically strangers, without the consent or approval of the people they’re exposing themselves too. Both are in effect victimizing people around them by exposing intimate parts of their bodies to people who might not want to see that.


If I’m wrong, please explain *why*. Explain the functional difference between the two examples. There is no need to call me names, call me a pervert, a pedophile, a creep or whatever. Just explain why the two examples aren’t the same. Because I think they are. If you don’t, explain why they’re different.

A penis is considered genitals. It is illegal to display genitals in public.
Butt cheeks or buttocks are muscles. You are already seeing butt cheeks when you go to the pool, I don't get outrage at an extra inch of skin.

They’re both being exposed for a sexual thrill. There is no functional difference. Breasts are neither genitals nor muscle but it generally not acceptable for a woman
to walk around topless at an American public pool.

According to DC law, it's completely legal and acceptable.

This thread isn't called "Does your legal jurisdiction have a legal prohibition against topless bathing?".

So why bother stating your opinion like a fact, if it is, not in fact, a fact?
Male and female toplessness is legal and allowed. Male and female bottom-less is not.

Have you ever called the police on someone for their swimsuit? Is it maybe time to get some help

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a lot. I swear half the reason my preteen has decided they’re nonbinary is because they have no desire to dress like typical girls and is fairly horrified. Short shorts, crop tops, and cheeky bathing suits appall her. Since hitting puberty at age 10 she would rather cover it all up.

I try to remind myself it’s so great these kids have such body confidence - but I also find the suits distracting. And I’m not sexualizing anybody - just noticing the girls are nearly naked.

Funny how the men aren’t wearing banana hammocks with their checks hanging out.

Something that struck me as—well I was going to write odd but really it’s just different culture— is that in a lot of European countries “swimming briefs” (like speedos and jammers) are way more common in casual settings. Common amongst all ages.

Like, here in the U.S. it’s a bit odd to see guys wearing those in a situation other than competitive swimming. Not so in Europe.

In fact, in France public pools are required by law to enforce a “swimming briefs only” dress code. No trunks, board shorts, etc. Just swimming briefs allowed. You will get called out on it and forced to purchase a swim briefs on location if you want to continue to swim.

Why? Why do they care if we wear trunks?

Yeah, that's a weird rule.

Rules banning non-swimming clothes make sense, because those fibers can clog pool filters. I can't think of any rationale for banning larger swimsuits, though.

Also, to be clear, people are citing Europeans as an example of how we shouldn't make rules policing swimsuits, but the French will actually FORCE you to BUY another swimsuit if they don't like the one you have on?

I'm skeptical about this. This sounds like something that was lost in translation.

No one here is saying that people who wear thongs or display their erections should be forced to purchase different bathing suits.

Those two things aren't really the same, you know.

Can't say I've ever seen the latter at our pool.

But, you'd be okay with it?

The latter? No. But that's probably a vanishingly rare occurrence at the average pool. I mean, I grew up in Florida, which is much more of a beach and pool party culture. I never saw someone doing that.

Thongs? They don't bother me.

AH!

Finally, we have someone willing to condemn men displaying their erections. So, one more vote for dress code!

You’re the one who keeps bringing erections into the conversation. No one has said they’re okay with kids seeing them; everyone has asked you what that has to do with dress code. Are you saying men who might get an erection at the swimming pool should dress in a way that it wouldn’t be visible to other people? I will agree with that but honestly I’ve never seen someone dealing with that issue at my public pool so explicitly writing it into the dress code seems like overkill to me.

Ever see a murder happen? Still okay with murder being written into the law?

It's illegal to expose your genitalia at a pool.

It's not illegal to have an erection in public, though.

This thread really went off the rails. It's tough to see much of a parallel between smaller swimsuits and exposing one's genitals in public.

Men in thongs, men in see-thru suits... should they be allowed at children's pools?

Have you seen either of these things occur, or do they only exist in your over-heated imagination? And what's your definition of a children's pool? A pool where only kids and their parents are allowed?

Answer the question - should they be allowed?

As long as your genitalia isn't exposed, I'm fine with whatever swimsuit you want to wear to the pool. I also don't have a problem with women going topless to the pool.

So, a see-thru swimsuit would expose genitalia... so you are okay banning them?

They're already illegal in public, so it seems like the rule already exists.

Great, two votes for dress codes!

Now that we agree men shouldn't be allowed to wear bathing suits that permit them to pursue sexual activity at public pools... how about women? Should women be allowed to wear see-thru swimsuits?

What do you consider see through? Isn't that something that is already illegal in public? I have no issues with women going topless, which is also the law.

Why don't we just follow the "Dress code" set out by the laws in the place we live?

Answer the question—should women wear see-thru swimsuits at children's pools? You've already said men, shouldn't... would seem kinda weird to have a double standard here...

There is no double standard. Both things are illegal, so both things are already banned at your local public pool.

What kind of Karen would call the police on someone for their swimsuit? Get a grip, dude!

Apparently the person equating wearing a thong to f#cking in the shallow end of a pool would. Blame them.