Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment

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Anonymous wrote:What I always find funny about these “Ward 3 is white because of racism” folks is that they’re almost always white transplants who made the decision to move to ward 3. Ward 3 is white because that’s where white people like them decided to move, and then they cry that it’s racist that people like them decided to move there.

For instance, here’s Matt Frumin, who’s from Michigan:

“I’ve been saying this: Ward 3 came to look the way it did” — that is to say, White and rich — “because of exclusion based on intentional policies — exclusion and then segregation,” Frumin told me. “And we need intentional policies to remedy what happened in the past.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/01/31/making-dcs-ward-3-an-example-all-land/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_local

Frumin, the reason ward 3 is full of well-off white people like you is because that’s where you and other well-off white people like you decided to move to. You could have moved to any other neighborhood in the city if you thought white people moving to ward 3 was segregationist. But being a white person, moving to a neighborhood, and then acting like it’s a travesty when other white people do the same thing is idiotic.

(The article is funny too, because Frumin says ward 3 is white because of segregation, and then goes on to say that he thinks his black friend didn’t buy a house in Tenleytown because his friend didn’t want to be around so many white people.)

You really miss the point. It is in the bolded. And also this from the article:

"Today, White households in D.C. have 81 times the wealth of Black households — with 1,500 households in the city worth more than $30 million, according to the DC Fiscal Policy Institute."

Nobody is claiming that a white person's choice to move to the neighborhood is segregationist. They are claiming that the fact that more people have the opportunity to move to that neighborhood is the result of intentional policies in the past. And the belief that intentional policies are required in the present to remedy that.

I’d love to live in Potomac, but I can’t afford to. What about me?

It's challenging to do smart transit-oriented development in Potomac.

Chevy Chase Rec Center is a mile from the metro station. This has nothing to do with "transit-oriented development".

It's actualy 7/10 of a mile from the metro station. I don't get it...if you are within a mile of a metro station, then you are close to a metro station.

It's also across the street from a Bus Depot. That's mass transit too. Although you can be forgiven for forgetting that, since you're above riding on a bus.

That's not a bus depot. You would know that if you either lived in the area or took the bus.

Let's see.. its a large area with a parking lot where buses come east and west and head south, where they engage in transfers, where there's shelter, and an inside area with a bathroom. What do you want me to call it? A really nice bus stop?

And that's where you gave yourself away as someone that not only doesn't live in the area but also doesn't take the bus.

I take the L2 at Nebraska and Conn down to admo and back. I don't live in MD and I have no compelling reason to travel north of DC to there, so no reason to transfer to the MTA bus.

The only bus that goes there is the L2.

The E4 ceased to exist?

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Anonymous wrote:What I always find funny about these “Ward 3 is white because of racism” folks is that they’re almost always white transplants who made the decision to move to ward 3. Ward 3 is white because that’s where white people like them decided to move, and then they cry that it’s racist that people like them decided to move there.

For instance, here’s Matt Frumin, who’s from Michigan:

“I’ve been saying this: Ward 3 came to look the way it did” — that is to say, White and rich — “because of exclusion based on intentional policies — exclusion and then segregation,” Frumin told me. “And we need intentional policies to remedy what happened in the past.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/01/31/making-dcs-ward-3-an-example-all-land/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_local

Frumin, the reason ward 3 is full of well-off white people like you is because that’s where you and other well-off white people like you decided to move to. You could have moved to any other neighborhood in the city if you thought white people moving to ward 3 was segregationist. But being a white person, moving to a neighborhood, and then acting like it’s a travesty when other white people do the same thing is idiotic.

(The article is funny too, because Frumin says ward 3 is white because of segregation, and then goes on to say that he thinks his black friend didn’t buy a house in Tenleytown because his friend didn’t want to be around so many white people.)

You really miss the point. It is in the bolded. And also this from the article:

"Today, White households in D.C. have 81 times the wealth of Black households — with 1,500 households in the city worth more than $30 million, according to the DC Fiscal Policy Institute."

Nobody is claiming that a white person's choice to move to the neighborhood is segregationist. They are claiming that the fact that more people have the opportunity to move to that neighborhood is the result of intentional policies in the past. And the belief that intentional policies are required in the present to remedy that.

I’d love to live in Potomac, but I can’t afford to. What about me?

It's challenging to do smart transit-oriented development in Potomac.

Chevy Chase Rec Center is a mile from the metro station. This has nothing to do with "transit-oriented development".

It's actualy 7/10 of a mile from the metro station. I don't get it...if you are within a mile of a metro station, then you are close to a metro station.

"Transit-oriented development" refers to development within a few blocks of a subway station. Mazza Gallerie is transit oriented development. Chevy Chase Community Center is not.

DOT defines it as within 1/2 mile of a transit center, which can include both subway and bus. True that this project would not meet that defintion. But we should be clear that it is not "a few blocks of a subway station"

Oh, in MoCo they are going to call the BRT stations “mass transit” and try to relax parking requirements (see Glass/Mink bill) and upzone with within a 1/4 mile of the stations. It’s going to be a cluster.

BRT literally is mass transit, and all 11 members of the County Council are co-sponsoring that bill.

In DC "BRT" means when the Metro bus driver doesn't bother to pull to the curb and just stops in traffic.

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Anonymous wrote:What I always find funny about these “Ward 3 is white because of racism” folks is that they’re almost always white transplants who made the decision to move to ward 3. Ward 3 is white because that’s where white people like them decided to move, and then they cry that it’s racist that people like them decided to move there.

For instance, here’s Matt Frumin, who’s from Michigan:

“I’ve been saying this: Ward 3 came to look the way it did” — that is to say, White and rich — “because of exclusion based on intentional policies — exclusion and then segregation,” Frumin told me. “And we need intentional policies to remedy what happened in the past.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/01/31/making-dcs-ward-3-an-example-all-land/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_local

Frumin, the reason ward 3 is full of well-off white people like you is because that’s where you and other well-off white people like you decided to move to. You could have moved to any other neighborhood in the city if you thought white people moving to ward 3 was segregationist. But being a white person, moving to a neighborhood, and then acting like it’s a travesty when other white people do the same thing is idiotic.

(The article is funny too, because Frumin says ward 3 is white because of segregation, and then goes on to say that he thinks his black friend didn’t buy a house in Tenleytown because his friend didn’t want to be around so many white people.)

You really miss the point. It is in the bolded. And also this from the article:

"Today, White households in D.C. have 81 times the wealth of Black households — with 1,500 households in the city worth more than $30 million, according to the DC Fiscal Policy Institute."

Nobody is claiming that a white person's choice to move to the neighborhood is segregationist. They are claiming that the fact that more people have the opportunity to move to that neighborhood is the result of intentional policies in the past. And the belief that intentional policies are required in the present to remedy that.

I’d love to live in Potomac, but I can’t afford to. What about me?

It's challenging to do smart transit-oriented development in Potomac.

Chevy Chase Rec Center is a mile from the metro station. This has nothing to do with "transit-oriented development".

It's actualy 7/10 of a mile from the metro station. I don't get it...if you are within a mile of a metro station, then you are close to a metro station.

It's also across the street from a Bus Depot. That's mass transit too. Although you can be forgiven for forgetting that, since you're above riding on a bus.

That's not a bus depot. You would know that if you either lived in the area or took the bus.

Let's see.. its a large area with a parking lot where buses come east and west and head south, where they engage in transfers, where there's shelter, and an inside area with a bathroom. What do you want me to call it? A really nice bus stop?

And that's where you gave yourself away as someone that not only doesn't live in the area but also doesn't take the bus.

I take the L2 at Nebraska and Conn down to admo and back. I don't live in MD and I have no compelling reason to travel north of DC to there, so no reason to transfer to the MTA bus.

The only bus that goes there is the L2.

The E4 ceased to exist?

The E4 doesn't go there

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Anonymous wrote:What I always find funny about these “Ward 3 is white because of racism” folks is that they’re almost always white transplants who made the decision to move to ward 3. Ward 3 is white because that’s where white people like them decided to move, and then they cry that it’s racist that people like them decided to move there.

For instance, here’s Matt Frumin, who’s from Michigan:

“I’ve been saying this: Ward 3 came to look the way it did” — that is to say, White and rich — “because of exclusion based on intentional policies — exclusion and then segregation,” Frumin told me. “And we need intentional policies to remedy what happened in the past.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/01/31/making-dcs-ward-3-an-example-all-land/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_local

Frumin, the reason ward 3 is full of well-off white people like you is because that’s where you and other well-off white people like you decided to move to. You could have moved to any other neighborhood in the city if you thought white people moving to ward 3 was segregationist. But being a white person, moving to a neighborhood, and then acting like it’s a travesty when other white people do the same thing is idiotic.

(The article is funny too, because Frumin says ward 3 is white because of segregation, and then goes on to say that he thinks his black friend didn’t buy a house in Tenleytown because his friend didn’t want to be around so many white people.)

You really miss the point. It is in the bolded. And also this from the article:

"Today, White households in D.C. have 81 times the wealth of Black households — with 1,500 households in the city worth more than $30 million, according to the DC Fiscal Policy Institute."

Nobody is claiming that a white person's choice to move to the neighborhood is segregationist. They are claiming that the fact that more people have the opportunity to move to that neighborhood is the result of intentional policies in the past. And the belief that intentional policies are required in the present to remedy that.

I’d love to live in Potomac, but I can’t afford to. What about me?

It's challenging to do smart transit-oriented development in Potomac.

Chevy Chase Rec Center is a mile from the metro station. This has nothing to do with "transit-oriented development".

It's actualy 7/10 of a mile from the metro station. I don't get it...if you are within a mile of a metro station, then you are close to a metro station.

It's also across the street from a Bus Depot. That's mass transit too. Although you can be forgiven for forgetting that, since you're above riding on a bus.

That's not a bus depot. You would know that if you either lived in the area or took the bus.

Let's see.. its a large area with a parking lot where buses come east and west and head south, where they engage in transfers, where there's shelter, and an inside area with a bathroom. What do you want me to call it? A really nice bus stop?

And that's where you gave yourself away as someone that not only doesn't live in the area but also doesn't take the bus.

I take the L2 at Nebraska and Conn down to admo and back. I don't live in MD and I have no compelling reason to travel north of DC to there, so no reason to transfer to the MTA bus.

The only bus that goes there is the L2.

The E4 ceased to exist?

The E4 doesn't go there

It's a block away.. that's a transfer point... less walking to get to the E4 than to change from red to green at gallery place..

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Anonymous wrote:What I always find funny about these “Ward 3 is white because of racism” folks is that they’re almost always white transplants who made the decision to move to ward 3. Ward 3 is white because that’s where white people like them decided to move, and then they cry that it’s racist that people like them decided to move there.

For instance, here’s Matt Frumin, who’s from Michigan:

“I’ve been saying this: Ward 3 came to look the way it did” — that is to say, White and rich — “because of exclusion based on intentional policies — exclusion and then segregation,” Frumin told me. “And we need intentional policies to remedy what happened in the past.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/01/31/making-dcs-ward-3-an-example-all-land/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_local

Frumin, the reason ward 3 is full of well-off white people like you is because that’s where you and other well-off white people like you decided to move to. You could have moved to any other neighborhood in the city if you thought white people moving to ward 3 was segregationist. But being a white person, moving to a neighborhood, and then acting like it’s a travesty when other white people do the same thing is idiotic.

(The article is funny too, because Frumin says ward 3 is white because of segregation, and then goes on to say that he thinks his black friend didn’t buy a house in Tenleytown because his friend didn’t want to be around so many white people.)

You really miss the point. It is in the bolded. And also this from the article:

"Today, White households in D.C. have 81 times the wealth of Black households — with 1,500 households in the city worth more than $30 million, according to the DC Fiscal Policy Institute."

Nobody is claiming that a white person's choice to move to the neighborhood is segregationist. They are claiming that the fact that more people have the opportunity to move to that neighborhood is the result of intentional policies in the past. And the belief that intentional policies are required in the present to remedy that.

I’d love to live in Potomac, but I can’t afford to. What about me?

It's challenging to do smart transit-oriented development in Potomac.

Chevy Chase Rec Center is a mile from the metro station. This has nothing to do with "transit-oriented development".

It's actualy 7/10 of a mile from the metro station. I don't get it...if you are within a mile of a metro station, then you are close to a metro station.

It's also across the street from a Bus Depot. That's mass transit too. Although you can be forgiven for forgetting that, since you're above riding on a bus.

That's not a bus depot. You would know that if you either lived in the area or took the bus.

Let's see.. its a large area with a parking lot where buses come east and west and head south, where they engage in transfers, where there's shelter, and an inside area with a bathroom. What do you want me to call it? A really nice bus stop?

And that's where you gave yourself away as someone that not only doesn't live in the area but also doesn't take the bus.

I take the L2 at Nebraska and Conn down to admo and back. I don't live in MD and I have no compelling reason to travel north of DC to there, so no reason to transfer to the MTA bus.

The only bus that goes there is the L2.

The E4 ceased to exist?

The E4 doesn't go there

Ding! Ding! The OP should form their own astroturf group, Chevy Chase Smart Transportation Equity.

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Anonymous wrote:The resolution passed 4-2.

names please

For: Gosselin (sponsor), Lynch, Nash, and Gore.
Against: Sherman (because of alternative resolution support) and Ferguson (because of 60ft cap introduced by Sherman).

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Anonymous wrote:What I always find funny about these “Ward 3 is white because of racism” folks is that they’re almost always white transplants who made the decision to move to ward 3. Ward 3 is white because that’s where white people like them decided to move, and then they cry that it’s racist that people like them decided to move there.

For instance, here’s Matt Frumin, who’s from Michigan:

“I’ve been saying this: Ward 3 came to look the way it did” — that is to say, White and rich — “because of exclusion based on intentional policies — exclusion and then segregation,” Frumin told me. “And we need intentional policies to remedy what happened in the past.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/01/31/making-dcs-ward-3-an-example-all-land/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_local

Frumin, the reason ward 3 is full of well-off white people like you is because that’s where you and other well-off white people like you decided to move to. You could have moved to any other neighborhood in the city if you thought white people moving to ward 3 was segregationist. But being a white person, moving to a neighborhood, and then acting like it’s a travesty when other white people do the same thing is idiotic.

(The article is funny too, because Frumin says ward 3 is white because of segregation, and then goes on to say that he thinks his black friend didn’t buy a house in Tenleytown because his friend didn’t want to be around so many white people.)

You really miss the point. It is in the bolded. And also this from the article:

"Today, White households in D.C. have 81 times the wealth of Black households — with 1,500 households in the city worth more than $30 million, according to the DC Fiscal Policy Institute."

Nobody is claiming that a white person's choice to move to the neighborhood is segregationist. They are claiming that the fact that more people have the opportunity to move to that neighborhood is the result of intentional policies in the past. And the belief that intentional policies are required in the present to remedy that.

I’d love to live in Potomac, but I can’t afford to. What about me?

It's challenging to do smart transit-oriented development in Potomac.

Chevy Chase Rec Center is a mile from the metro station. This has nothing to do with "transit-oriented development".

It's actualy 7/10 of a mile from the metro station. I don't get it...if you are within a mile of a metro station, then you are close to a metro station.

It's also across the street from a Bus Depot. That's mass transit too. Although you can be forgiven for forgetting that, since you're above riding on a bus.

That's not a bus depot. You would know that if you either lived in the area or took the bus.

Let's see.. its a large area with a parking lot where buses come east and west and head south, where they engage in transfers, where there's shelter, and an inside area with a bathroom. What do you want me to call it? A really nice bus stop?

And that's where you gave yourself away as someone that not only doesn't live in the area but also doesn't take the bus.

I take the L2 at Nebraska and Conn down to admo and back. I don't live in MD and I have no compelling reason to travel north of DC to there, so no reason to transfer to the MTA bus.

The only bus that goes there is the L2.

The E4 ceased to exist?

The E4 doesn't go there

It's a block away.. that's a transfer point... less walking to get to the E4 than to change from red to green at gallery place..

In point of fact it is not a transfer point. The bus depot for the area is at Friendship Heights.

It's a bit ironic that you don't know any of this because that location is developer manna.

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Anonymous wrote:The resolution passed 4-2.

names please

For: Gosselin (sponsor), Lynch, Nash, and Gore.
Against: Sherman (because of alternative resolution support) and Ferguson (because of 60ft cap introduced by Sherman).

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What did the resolution say?

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Anonymous wrote:What I always find funny about these “Ward 3 is white because of racism” folks is that they’re almost always white transplants who made the decision to move to ward 3. Ward 3 is white because that’s where white people like them decided to move, and then they cry that it’s racist that people like them decided to move there.

For instance, here’s Matt Frumin, who’s from Michigan:

“I’ve been saying this: Ward 3 came to look the way it did” — that is to say, White and rich — “because of exclusion based on intentional policies — exclusion and then segregation,” Frumin told me. “And we need intentional policies to remedy what happened in the past.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/01/31/making-dcs-ward-3-an-example-all-land/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_local

Frumin, the reason ward 3 is full of well-off white people like you is because that’s where you and other well-off white people like you decided to move to. You could have moved to any other neighborhood in the city if you thought white people moving to ward 3 was segregationist. But being a white person, moving to a neighborhood, and then acting like it’s a travesty when other white people do the same thing is idiotic.

(The article is funny too, because Frumin says ward 3 is white because of segregation, and then goes on to say that he thinks his black friend didn’t buy a house in Tenleytown because his friend didn’t want to be around so many white people.)

You really miss the point. It is in the bolded. And also this from the article:

"Today, White households in D.C. have 81 times the wealth of Black households — with 1,500 households in the city worth more than $30 million, according to the DC Fiscal Policy Institute."

Nobody is claiming that a white person's choice to move to the neighborhood is segregationist. They are claiming that the fact that more people have the opportunity to move to that neighborhood is the result of intentional policies in the past. And the belief that intentional policies are required in the present to remedy that.

I’d love to live in Potomac, but I can’t afford to. What about me?

It's challenging to do smart transit-oriented development in Potomac.

Chevy Chase Rec Center is a mile from the metro station. This has nothing to do with "transit-oriented development".

It's actualy 7/10 of a mile from the metro station. I don't get it...if you are within a mile of a metro station, then you are close to a metro station.

It's also across the street from a Bus Depot. That's mass transit too. Although you can be forgiven for forgetting that, since you're above riding on a bus.

That's not a bus depot. You would know that if you either lived in the area or took the bus.

Let's see.. its a large area with a parking lot where buses come east and west and head south, where they engage in transfers, where there's shelter, and an inside area with a bathroom. What do you want me to call it? A really nice bus stop?

And that's where you gave yourself away as someone that not only doesn't live in the area but also doesn't take the bus.

I take the L2 at Nebraska and Conn down to admo and back. I don't live in MD and I have no compelling reason to travel north of DC to there, so no reason to transfer to the MTA bus.

The only bus that goes there is the L2.

The E4 ceased to exist?

The E4 doesn't go there

It's a block away.. that's a transfer point... less walking to get to the E4 than to change from red to green at gallery place..

In point of fact it is not a transfer point. The bus depot for the area is at Friendship Heights.

It's a bit ironic that you don't know any of this because that location is developer manna.

It is a transfer point to MTA. And you can hop on the E4 to go to Friendship Heights. Why is this so hard for you?

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Anonymous wrote:What I always find funny about these “Ward 3 is white because of racism” folks is that they’re almost always white transplants who made the decision to move to ward 3. Ward 3 is white because that’s where white people like them decided to move, and then they cry that it’s racist that people like them decided to move there.

For instance, here’s Matt Frumin, who’s from Michigan:

“I’ve been saying this: Ward 3 came to look the way it did” — that is to say, White and rich — “because of exclusion based on intentional policies — exclusion and then segregation,” Frumin told me. “And we need intentional policies to remedy what happened in the past.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/01/31/making-dcs-ward-3-an-example-all-land/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_local

Frumin, the reason ward 3 is full of well-off white people like you is because that’s where you and other well-off white people like you decided to move to. You could have moved to any other neighborhood in the city if you thought white people moving to ward 3 was segregationist. But being a white person, moving to a neighborhood, and then acting like it’s a travesty when other white people do the same thing is idiotic.

(The article is funny too, because Frumin says ward 3 is white because of segregation, and then goes on to say that he thinks his black friend didn’t buy a house in Tenleytown because his friend didn’t want to be around so many white people.)

You really miss the point. It is in the bolded. And also this from the article:

"Today, White households in D.C. have 81 times the wealth of Black households — with 1,500 households in the city worth more than $30 million, according to the DC Fiscal Policy Institute."

Nobody is claiming that a white person's choice to move to the neighborhood is segregationist. They are claiming that the fact that more people have the opportunity to move to that neighborhood is the result of intentional policies in the past. And the belief that intentional policies are required in the present to remedy that.

I’d love to live in Potomac, but I can’t afford to. What about me?

It's challenging to do smart transit-oriented development in Potomac.

Chevy Chase Rec Center is a mile from the metro station. This has nothing to do with "transit-oriented development".

It's actualy 7/10 of a mile from the metro station. I don't get it...if you are within a mile of a metro station, then you are close to a metro station.

It's also across the street from a Bus Depot. That's mass transit too. Although you can be forgiven for forgetting that, since you're above riding on a bus.

That's not a bus depot. You would know that if you either lived in the area or took the bus.

Let's see.. its a large area with a parking lot where buses come east and west and head south, where they engage in transfers, where there's shelter, and an inside area with a bathroom. What do you want me to call it? A really nice bus stop?

And that's where you gave yourself away as someone that not only doesn't live in the area but also doesn't take the bus.

I take the L2 at Nebraska and Conn down to admo and back. I don't live in MD and I have no compelling reason to travel north of DC to there, so no reason to transfer to the MTA bus.

The only bus that goes there is the L2.

The E4 ceased to exist?

The E4 doesn't go there

It's a block away.. that's a transfer point... less walking to get to the E4 than to change from red to green at gallery place..

In point of fact it is not a transfer point. The bus depot for the area is at Friendship Heights.

It's a bit ironic that you don't know any of this because that location is developer manna.

It is a transfer point to MTA. And you can hop on the E4 to go to Friendship Heights. Why is this so hard for you?

Wrong again.

The E4 crosses Connecticut on a different street.

Because you are making up bullshit.

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Anonymous wrote:What I always find funny about these “Ward 3 is white because of racism” folks is that they’re almost always white transplants who made the decision to move to ward 3. Ward 3 is white because that’s where white people like them decided to move, and then they cry that it’s racist that people like them decided to move there.

For instance, here’s Matt Frumin, who’s from Michigan:

“I’ve been saying this: Ward 3 came to look the way it did” — that is to say, White and rich — “because of exclusion based on intentional policies — exclusion and then segregation,” Frumin told me. “And we need intentional policies to remedy what happened in the past.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/01/31/making-dcs-ward-3-an-example-all-land/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_local

Frumin, the reason ward 3 is full of well-off white people like you is because that’s where you and other well-off white people like you decided to move to. You could have moved to any other neighborhood in the city if you thought white people moving to ward 3 was segregationist. But being a white person, moving to a neighborhood, and then acting like it’s a travesty when other white people do the same thing is idiotic.

(The article is funny too, because Frumin says ward 3 is white because of segregation, and then goes on to say that he thinks his black friend didn’t buy a house in Tenleytown because his friend didn’t want to be around so many white people.)

You really miss the point. It is in the bolded. And also this from the article:

"Today, White households in D.C. have 81 times the wealth of Black households — with 1,500 households in the city worth more than $30 million, according to the DC Fiscal Policy Institute."

Nobody is claiming that a white person's choice to move to the neighborhood is segregationist. They are claiming that the fact that more people have the opportunity to move to that neighborhood is the result of intentional policies in the past. And the belief that intentional policies are required in the present to remedy that.

I’d love to live in Potomac, but I can’t afford to. What about me?

It's challenging to do smart transit-oriented development in Potomac.

Chevy Chase Rec Center is a mile from the metro station. This has nothing to do with "transit-oriented development".

It's actualy 7/10 of a mile from the metro station. I don't get it...if you are within a mile of a metro station, then you are close to a metro station.

It's also across the street from a Bus Depot. That's mass transit too. Although you can be forgiven for forgetting that, since you're above riding on a bus.

That's not a bus depot. You would know that if you either lived in the area or took the bus.

Let's see.. its a large area with a parking lot where buses come east and west and head south, where they engage in transfers, where there's shelter, and an inside area with a bathroom. What do you want me to call it? A really nice bus stop?

And that's where you gave yourself away as someone that not only doesn't live in the area but also doesn't take the bus.

I take the L2 at Nebraska and Conn down to admo and back. I don't live in MD and I have no compelling reason to travel north of DC to there, so no reason to transfer to the MTA bus.

The only bus that goes there is the L2.

The E4 ceased to exist?

The E4 doesn't go there

It's a block away.. that's a transfer point... less walking to get to the E4 than to change from red to green at gallery place..

In point of fact it is not a transfer point. The bus depot for the area is at Friendship Heights.

It's a bit ironic that you don't know any of this because that location is developer manna.

It is a transfer point to MTA. And you can hop on the E4 to go to Friendship Heights. Why is this so hard for you?

Wrong again.

The E4 crosses Connecticut on a different street.

Because you are making up bullshit.

DP. I'm looking at Google Maps. The E4 and L2 both have stops at Connecticut/McKinley, and it's a 16-minute walk from Connecticut/McKinley to Friendship Heights Metro. What are you arguing about?

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Anonymous wrote:What I always find funny about these “Ward 3 is white because of racism” folks is that they’re almost always white transplants who made the decision to move to ward 3. Ward 3 is white because that’s where white people like them decided to move, and then they cry that it’s racist that people like them decided to move there.

For instance, here’s Matt Frumin, who’s from Michigan:

“I’ve been saying this: Ward 3 came to look the way it did” — that is to say, White and rich — “because of exclusion based on intentional policies — exclusion and then segregation,” Frumin told me. “And we need intentional policies to remedy what happened in the past.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/01/31/making-dcs-ward-3-an-example-all-land/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_local

Frumin, the reason ward 3 is full of well-off white people like you is because that’s where you and other well-off white people like you decided to move to. You could have moved to any other neighborhood in the city if you thought white people moving to ward 3 was segregationist. But being a white person, moving to a neighborhood, and then acting like it’s a travesty when other white people do the same thing is idiotic.

(The article is funny too, because Frumin says ward 3 is white because of segregation, and then goes on to say that he thinks his black friend didn’t buy a house in Tenleytown because his friend didn’t want to be around so many white people.)

You really miss the point. It is in the bolded. And also this from the article:

"Today, White households in D.C. have 81 times the wealth of Black households — with 1,500 households in the city worth more than $30 million, according to the DC Fiscal Policy Institute."

Nobody is claiming that a white person's choice to move to the neighborhood is segregationist. They are claiming that the fact that more people have the opportunity to move to that neighborhood is the result of intentional policies in the past. And the belief that intentional policies are required in the present to remedy that.

I’d love to live in Potomac, but I can’t afford to. What about me?

It's challenging to do smart transit-oriented development in Potomac.

Chevy Chase Rec Center is a mile from the metro station. This has nothing to do with "transit-oriented development".

It's actualy 7/10 of a mile from the metro station. I don't get it...if you are within a mile of a metro station, then you are close to a metro station.

It's also across the street from a Bus Depot. That's mass transit too. Although you can be forgiven for forgetting that, since you're above riding on a bus.

That's not a bus depot. You would know that if you either lived in the area or took the bus.

Let's see.. its a large area with a parking lot where buses come east and west and head south, where they engage in transfers, where there's shelter, and an inside area with a bathroom. What do you want me to call it? A really nice bus stop?

And that's where you gave yourself away as someone that not only doesn't live in the area but also doesn't take the bus.

I take the L2 at Nebraska and Conn down to admo and back. I don't live in MD and I have no compelling reason to travel north of DC to there, so no reason to transfer to the MTA bus.

The only bus that goes there is the L2.

The E4 ceased to exist?

The E4 doesn't go there

It's a block away.. that's a transfer point... less walking to get to the E4 than to change from red to green at gallery place..

In point of fact it is not a transfer point. The bus depot for the area is at Friendship Heights.

It's a bit ironic that you don't know any of this because that location is developer manna.

It is a transfer point to MTA. And you can hop on the E4 to go to Friendship Heights. Why is this so hard for you?

Wrong again.

The E4 crosses Connecticut on a different street.

Because you are making up bullshit.

DP. I'm looking at Google Maps. The E4 and L2 both have stops at Connecticut/McKinley, and it's a 16-minute walk from Connecticut/McKinley to Friendship Heights Metro. What are you arguing about?

Just open up the previous replies. It's very straight forward.

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Anonymous wrote:What I always find funny about these “Ward 3 is white because of racism” folks is that they’re almost always white transplants who made the decision to move to ward 3. Ward 3 is white because that’s where white people like them decided to move, and then they cry that it’s racist that people like them decided to move there.

For instance, here’s Matt Frumin, who’s from Michigan:

“I’ve been saying this: Ward 3 came to look the way it did” — that is to say, White and rich — “because of exclusion based on intentional policies — exclusion and then segregation,” Frumin told me. “And we need intentional policies to remedy what happened in the past.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/01/31/making-dcs-ward-3-an-example-all-land/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_local

Frumin, the reason ward 3 is full of well-off white people like you is because that’s where you and other well-off white people like you decided to move to. You could have moved to any other neighborhood in the city if you thought white people moving to ward 3 was segregationist. But being a white person, moving to a neighborhood, and then acting like it’s a travesty when other white people do the same thing is idiotic.

(The article is funny too, because Frumin says ward 3 is white because of segregation, and then goes on to say that he thinks his black friend didn’t buy a house in Tenleytown because his friend didn’t want to be around so many white people.)

You really miss the point. It is in the bolded. And also this from the article:

"Today, White households in D.C. have 81 times the wealth of Black households — with 1,500 households in the city worth more than $30 million, according to the DC Fiscal Policy Institute."

Nobody is claiming that a white person's choice to move to the neighborhood is segregationist. They are claiming that the fact that more people have the opportunity to move to that neighborhood is the result of intentional policies in the past. And the belief that intentional policies are required in the present to remedy that.

I’d love to live in Potomac, but I can’t afford to. What about me?

It's challenging to do smart transit-oriented development in Potomac.

Chevy Chase Rec Center is a mile from the metro station. This has nothing to do with "transit-oriented development".

It's actualy 7/10 of a mile from the metro station. I don't get it...if you are within a mile of a metro station, then you are close to a metro station.

It's also across the street from a Bus Depot. That's mass transit too. Although you can be forgiven for forgetting that, since you're above riding on a bus.

That's not a bus depot. You would know that if you either lived in the area or took the bus.

Let's see.. its a large area with a parking lot where buses come east and west and head south, where they engage in transfers, where there's shelter, and an inside area with a bathroom. What do you want me to call it? A really nice bus stop?

And that's where you gave yourself away as someone that not only doesn't live in the area but also doesn't take the bus.

I take the L2 at Nebraska and Conn down to admo and back. I don't live in MD and I have no compelling reason to travel north of DC to there, so no reason to transfer to the MTA bus.

The only bus that goes there is the L2.

The E4 ceased to exist?

The E4 doesn't go there

It's a block away.. that's a transfer point... less walking to get to the E4 than to change from red to green at gallery place..

In point of fact it is not a transfer point. The bus depot for the area is at Friendship Heights.

It's a bit ironic that you don't know any of this because that location is developer manna.

It is a transfer point to MTA. And you can hop on the E4 to go to Friendship Heights. Why is this so hard for you?

Wrong again.

The E4 crosses Connecticut on a different street.

Because you are making up bullshit.

DP. I'm looking at Google Maps. The E4 and L2 both have stops at Connecticut/McKinley, and it's a 16-minute walk from Connecticut/McKinley to Friendship Heights Metro. What are you arguing about?

Just open up the previous replies. It's very straight forward.

IT CROSSES ONE FREAKING BLOCK SOUTH OF THE BUS TRANSFER STOP

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Enhancing Community Services: The redevelopment could lead to an enhancement of community services. A new library combined with public housing facilities can create a space that benefits all residents, providing improved access to education, healthcare, and social services.

Isnt this like the wrap-around social services concept that was supposed to undergird the housing voucher program up and down Connecticut Avenue? How has that worked out? DC has done nada while crime has spiked. What assurances would the Chevy Chase community have that the promised glorious future will be any different?

There is a difference between affordable housing subsidies for the working middle class and section 8/voucher housing.
What is proposed for Chevy Chase is the former, not the latter.

Stop conflating the two. It will be an apartment building, not a facility that requires wraparound services.

Connecticut & Wisconsin are FULL of "apartment buildings" stuffed with voucher residents who require, but do not receive, wrap around services.

Any DC community should stay as far away from this as possible. The city has created a disaster

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The Chevy Chase Civic Core will pursue a different model.