FCPS HS Boundary

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure many Great Falls parents are amazing, but there are also many loud ones who assume Herndon High School is a gang infested hell-hole. Seems like stereotyping to me. Despite having fewer legacy students, and parents with deep pockets to get their kids into all the right activities, we at Herndon, continue to send a good number of high achieving students to amazing universities.

My kid went to UVA, which may not be an Ivy league school, but from what I hear, is sought after at Langley and Mclean parents.

As I mentioned, I never thought about Herndon one way or another until this. You all are the ones putting words in our mouths calling your own school a “gang infested hell-hole”. I chose my words carefully and would never say that, in fact, I literally said a couple pages back that I’m sure there are good kids there. I also said I’ve read the articles, and from the face of it, there appears to be gang problems at the school. Call me racist or whatever you will, but we plan to avoid that dynamic for our kids - I’m still amazed that you all think that this is controversial.

I’m thrilled for you that you chose to go to Herndon and it worked out for your kids. I hope it works out for all kids at Herndon. But it isn’t the school that we signed up for, nor plan to attend. I’ll leave those UVA spots for whoever redistricting brings your way.

The time for average kids being able to get into a private high school was prior to covid. There aren't enough seats now so even the schools that used to take everyone are being choosy. If every kid in great falls starts trying to get out following a boundary change, lots of parents who thought they could choose private will be disappointed.

I think the board will catch most of the Langley kids rezoned to Herndon and West Springfield kids to Lewis.

It’s a financial hit that not everyone can take to go private unplanned. Not many people can just sell a classic car and give up their Istanbul trip and make the finances work so close to having to shell out for college. Of course, some people will opt for some kind of online high school/private tutor combination, pooling funds especially those who will refuse for safety reasons.

It’s the elementary level that will set the trends. Parents who don’t want to or can’t get into private but feel the new public school’s academics aren’t up to standard will refuse.
They can more easily and readily set up pods and co-ops, choosing good curriculums and deciding what style (Montessori, Waldorf, Classical etc) they will go with and sharing costs of supplies and deciding who has the best lower level/backyard for classes etc.
Bet you they start competing to see which co-op scores higher on yearly testing and have spelling contests and geography bees.
Those parents have years to make the finances work for private high schools, which in the meantime will have those years to expand/plan expansions.

yea, that won't happen. It's more work and carries more stigma than most families are willing to deal with

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I have a kid at Langley and he said his friends from Great Falls may have to switch schools. I have heard about rezoning for years. These kids are smart and motivated. I don’t know how these smart kids would help the struggling kids at Herndon. On paper, the school would look better but all you are doing is moving smart white and Asian kids to Herndon. I actually think more parents would either move or switch to private before switching to Herndon. I know I would.

OMG. Herndon doesn’t care if those so-called superior kids come or not on the basis of their socio-economic basis. They don’t care if they come at all. They just want the government to make decisions without being bullied by the top 1-3% of households with high income in FCPS to do what is just in their best interest.

+1000. I helped pay for Herndon’s expansion so I expect kids who live two miles from Herndon and 10 miles from Langley to attend Herndon. Period.

They can be re-zoned there, sure. But there are already kids who live 2 miles from Herndon, are currently zoned to that school, and don’t attend.

There are also kids who live two miles from Langley who attend other schools, including Marshall and Potomac. We can’t always force kids to attend the public schools in their area, but we can at least have boundaries that aren’t obviously gerrymandered.

I’m with you. Clean up 🧹 the boundaries and motivate more parents to get their children out of FCPS.

If being zoned to the schools their kids should attend leads Great Falls parents to exit FCPS, good riddance.

+1. Herndon mom here. We don’t need disgruntled former Langley families complaining about being forced to move to FARMS school. Please go private, but continue paying those Fairfax taxes.

You don’t realize that you’re the problem, not your kids. You’re lazy and happy to take other people’s resources.

You keep saying you don’t need us, then make comments like this saying the exact opposite. Do you depend on us or do you want nothing to do with us?

I think the Herndon parents would be happy to welcome any family that attends HHS without the grumbling, kevetching, and calling the kids who attend the school gang bangers. They are less thrilled to have the families who seem to think that their kids will be attending a school that is inferior with kids that they look down on or are afraid of. To be frank, your attitude sucks. No one doubts the desire to want to provide the best you can for your child but in doing so you are spending a lot of time trashing another group of kids and their school. It is not a good look.

It may not be a good look but it reflects the attitude of Langley parents. As a group, and especially when they get together and work themselves into a collective frenzy, they are just awful.

I generally think Great Falls residents are amazing. It’s funny the SJWs in this site really have changed my political views, but not in the way that they would have hoped.

You just stereotyped all Great Falls as awful. Have fun working the PTA with people you dislike so much!

The critics forget themselves. McLean carries the financial weight of FCPS and can create its own school district, avoid this mess, preserve our home values, and ensure the richness of the schools and their programs. If we decide, what options do the critics have? In truth, nothing. McLean has all to gain and nothing to lose. It fundraises Fairfax Democrats, and any aspiring politician will toe the line. This current bunch has forgotten its place. People moved to McLean for a reason. Accept that reality and pick another target.

Go ahead. Try to incorporate McLean and create your own schools. We will get out the popcorn while we watch you make that happen. The headlines will be a fun read too.

I think you've lost the plot.

McLean is largely sitting out this boundary discussion. If you live in McLean you're still going to end up at Langley, McLean, or Marshall (or TJ). You aren't agitated like the Great Falls posters, who are upset about the prospect of going to Herndon and in some cases blame McLean for (1) voting for Democrats and/or (2) having kids who might get rezoned from McLean to Langley (thus prompting the possible Langley-to-Herndon move).

No one in McLean thinks it's going to incorporate as a separate jurisdiction, especially with the recent extension of the moratorium through 2032. The MCA had a small committee looking at incorporation, which it disbanded once the state legislature extended the prohibition and Youngkin signed the bill.

Most people are sitting this out. The only people who are really upset are the people who live in ares that are highly likely to be rezoned to schools they deem less desirable. We are mainly reading posts from people who are in Great Falls and know that they might be moved to Herndon and the WSHS families who might be moved to Lewis. I have not seen many posts from people coming out of Chantilly or Centerville probably because they know the schools need relief and most of the alternative HSs are solid schools. I am guessing parents would prefer not to move but they are less up in arms because where they might be moved is less objectionable and they know that the schools are crowded.

There are parents wh are happy with the upcoming changes because they hope that it will improve their school and help their kids. But most of the County knows that their kids are not in the margins that are going to be shifted and are not that worried about it. I don't think anyone really expects that the school board is going to shift boundaries every 5 years. Most people understand that more periodic reviews should help to decrease some of the utilization issues that exist now.

Or, it just isn’t on a lot of people’s radar yet. When the maps come out is when the real outrage will begin.

Then repeat every five years.

It's on peoples radar. The newspaper articles and meetings have been posted on my neighborhood Facebook page. My kid is in activities that meet during the summer with kids at 5 different high schools and all of the parents have mentioned it. People are aware but none of them seem to be all that excited about it one way or the other. Some live close to the HS that they are at right now or where the kids are going to be attending. Some because they are not worried about shifting between the schools in their area.

And no one I know thinks that there will be shifts every 5 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Where can we see the proposed boundary changes or is everything just speculation for now?

I have a kid at Langley and he said his friends from Great Falls may have to switch schools. I have heard about rezoning for years. These kids are smart and motivated. I don’t know how these smart kids would help the struggling kids at Herndon. On paper, the school would look better but all you are doing is moving smart white and Asian kids to Herndon. I actually think more parents would either move or switch to private before switching to Herndon. I know I would.

OMG. Herndon doesn’t care if those so-called superior kids come or not on the basis of their socio-economic basis. They don’t care if they come at all. They just want the government to make decisions without being bullied by the top 1-3% of households with high income in FCPS to do what is just in their best interest.

+1000. I helped pay for Herndon’s expansion so I expect kids who live two miles from Herndon and 10 miles from Langley to attend Herndon. Period.

They can be re-zoned there, sure. But there are already kids who live 2 miles from Herndon, are currently zoned to that school, and don’t attend.

There are also kids who live two miles from Langley who attend other schools, including Marshall and Potomac. We can’t always force kids to attend the public schools in their area, but we can at least have boundaries that aren’t obviously gerrymandered.

I’m with you. Clean up 🧹 the boundaries and motivate more parents to get their children out of FCPS.

If being zoned to the schools their kids should attend leads Great Falls parents to exit FCPS, good riddance.

+1. Herndon mom here. We don’t need disgruntled former Langley families complaining about being forced to move to FARMS school. Please go private, but continue paying those Fairfax taxes.

You don’t realize that you’re the problem, not your kids. You’re lazy and happy to take other people’s resources.

You keep saying you don’t need us, then make comments like this saying the exact opposite. Do you depend on us or do you want nothing to do with us?

I think the Herndon parents would be happy to welcome any family that attends HHS without the grumbling, kevetching, and calling the kids who attend the school gang bangers. They are less thrilled to have the families who seem to think that their kids will be attending a school that is inferior with kids that they look down on or are afraid of. To be frank, your attitude sucks. No one doubts the desire to want to provide the best you can for your child but in doing so you are spending a lot of time trashing another group of kids and their school. It is not a good look.

It may not be a good look but it reflects the attitude of Langley parents. As a group, and especially when they get together and work themselves into a collective frenzy, they are just awful.

I generally think Great Falls residents are amazing. It’s funny the SJWs in this site really have changed my political views, but not in the way that they would have hoped.

You just stereotyped all Great Falls as awful. Have fun working the PTA with people you dislike so much!

The critics forget themselves. McLean carries the financial weight of FCPS and can create its own school district, avoid this mess, preserve our home values, and ensure the richness of the schools and their programs. If we decide, what options do the critics have? In truth, nothing. McLean has all to gain and nothing to lose. It fundraises Fairfax Democrats, and any aspiring politician will toe the line. This current bunch has forgotten its place. People moved to McLean for a reason. Accept that reality and pick another target.

Go ahead. Try to incorporate McLean and create your own schools. We will get out the popcorn while we watch you make that happen. The headlines will be a fun read too.

I think you've lost the plot.

McLean is largely sitting out this boundary discussion. If you live in McLean you're still going to end up at Langley, McLean, or Marshall (or TJ). You aren't agitated like the Great Falls posters, who are upset about the prospect of going to Herndon and in some cases blame McLean for (1) voting for Democrats and/or (2) having kids who might get rezoned from McLean to Langley (thus prompting the possible Langley-to-Herndon move).

No one in McLean thinks it's going to incorporate as a separate jurisdiction, especially with the recent extension of the moratorium through 2032. The MCA had a small committee looking at incorporation, which it disbanded once the state legislature extended the prohibition and Youngkin signed the bill.

Most people are sitting this out. The only people who are really upset are the people who live in ares that are highly likely to be rezoned to schools they deem less desirable. We are mainly reading posts from people who are in Great Falls and know that they might be moved to Herndon and the WSHS families who might be moved to Lewis. I have not seen many posts from people coming out of Chantilly or Centerville probably because they know the schools need relief and most of the alternative HSs are solid schools. I am guessing parents would prefer not to move but they are less up in arms because where they might be moved is less objectionable and they know that the schools are crowded.

There are parents wh are happy with the upcoming changes because they hope that it will improve their school and help their kids. But most of the County knows that their kids are not in the margins that are going to be shifted and are not that worried about it. I don't think anyone really expects that the school board is going to shift boundaries every 5 years. Most people understand that more periodic reviews should help to decrease some of the utilization issues that exist now.

Or, it just isn’t on a lot of people’s radar yet. When the maps come out is when the real outrage will begin.

Then repeat every five years.

It's on peoples radar. The newspaper articles and meetings have been posted on my neighborhood Facebook page. My kid is in activities that meet during the summer with kids at 5 different high schools and all of the parents have mentioned it. People are aware but none of them seem to be all that excited about it one way or the other. Some live close to the HS that they are at right now or where the kids are going to be attending. Some because they are not worried about shifting between the schools in their area.

And no one I know thinks that there will be shifts every 5 years.

I’ve met several people, with kids in the line of fire who haven’t heard of the boundary review, and that’s people likely directly impacted by it. You’re right that some people won’t care, but you are just trying to minimize/downplay the upcoming blowback.

No one that I know thinks that there will be shifts every five years, except for everyone who has read the policy and knows the boundary review is required by the school board. Your attempts at gaslighting on this point is incredibly transparent and not credible.

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Anonymous wrote:Where can we see the proposed boundary changes or is everything just speculation for now?

I have a kid at Langley and he said his friends from Great Falls may have to switch schools. I have heard about rezoning for years. These kids are smart and motivated. I don’t know how these smart kids would help the struggling kids at Herndon. On paper, the school would look better but all you are doing is moving smart white and Asian kids to Herndon. I actually think more parents would either move or switch to private before switching to Herndon. I know I would.

OMG. Herndon doesn’t care if those so-called superior kids come or not on the basis of their socio-economic basis. They don’t care if they come at all. They just want the government to make decisions without being bullied by the top 1-3% of households with high income in FCPS to do what is just in their best interest.

+1000. I helped pay for Herndon’s expansion so I expect kids who live two miles from Herndon and 10 miles from Langley to attend Herndon. Period.

They can be re-zoned there, sure. But there are already kids who live 2 miles from Herndon, are currently zoned to that school, and don’t attend.

There are also kids who live two miles from Langley who attend other schools, including Marshall and Potomac. We can’t always force kids to attend the public schools in their area, but we can at least have boundaries that aren’t obviously gerrymandered.

I’m with you. Clean up 🧹 the boundaries and motivate more parents to get their children out of FCPS.

If being zoned to the schools their kids should attend leads Great Falls parents to exit FCPS, good riddance.

+1. Herndon mom here. We don’t need disgruntled former Langley families complaining about being forced to move to FARMS school. Please go private, but continue paying those Fairfax taxes.

You don’t realize that you’re the problem, not your kids. You’re lazy and happy to take other people’s resources.

You keep saying you don’t need us, then make comments like this saying the exact opposite. Do you depend on us or do you want nothing to do with us?

I think the Herndon parents would be happy to welcome any family that attends HHS without the grumbling, kevetching, and calling the kids who attend the school gang bangers. They are less thrilled to have the families who seem to think that their kids will be attending a school that is inferior with kids that they look down on or are afraid of. To be frank, your attitude sucks. No one doubts the desire to want to provide the best you can for your child but in doing so you are spending a lot of time trashing another group of kids and their school. It is not a good look.

It may not be a good look but it reflects the attitude of Langley parents. As a group, and especially when they get together and work themselves into a collective frenzy, they are just awful.

I generally think Great Falls residents are amazing. It’s funny the SJWs in this site really have changed my political views, but not in the way that they would have hoped.

You just stereotyped all Great Falls as awful. Have fun working the PTA with people you dislike so much!

The critics forget themselves. McLean carries the financial weight of FCPS and can create its own school district, avoid this mess, preserve our home values, and ensure the richness of the schools and their programs. If we decide, what options do the critics have? In truth, nothing. McLean has all to gain and nothing to lose. It fundraises Fairfax Democrats, and any aspiring politician will toe the line. This current bunch has forgotten its place. People moved to McLean for a reason. Accept that reality and pick another target.

Go ahead. Try to incorporate McLean and create your own schools. We will get out the popcorn while we watch you make that happen. The headlines will be a fun read too.

I think you've lost the plot.

McLean is largely sitting out this boundary discussion. If you live in McLean you're still going to end up at Langley, McLean, or Marshall (or TJ). You aren't agitated like the Great Falls posters, who are upset about the prospect of going to Herndon and in some cases blame McLean for (1) voting for Democrats and/or (2) having kids who might get rezoned from McLean to Langley (thus prompting the possible Langley-to-Herndon move).

No one in McLean thinks it's going to incorporate as a separate jurisdiction, especially with the recent extension of the moratorium through 2032. The MCA had a small committee looking at incorporation, which it disbanded once the state legislature extended the prohibition and Youngkin signed the bill.

Most people are sitting this out. The only people who are really upset are the people who live in ares that are highly likely to be rezoned to schools they deem less desirable. We are mainly reading posts from people who are in Great Falls and know that they might be moved to Herndon and the WSHS families who might be moved to Lewis. I have not seen many posts from people coming out of Chantilly or Centerville probably because they know the schools need relief and most of the alternative HSs are solid schools. I am guessing parents would prefer not to move but they are less up in arms because where they might be moved is less objectionable and they know that the schools are crowded.

There are parents wh are happy with the upcoming changes because they hope that it will improve their school and help their kids. But most of the County knows that their kids are not in the margins that are going to be shifted and are not that worried about it. I don't think anyone really expects that the school board is going to shift boundaries every 5 years. Most people understand that more periodic reviews should help to decrease some of the utilization issues that exist now.

Or, it just isn’t on a lot of people’s radar yet. When the maps come out is when the real outrage will begin.

Then repeat every five years.

It depends on what's proposed in the new maps. If they are largely just cleaning up ES boundaries and eliminating split feeders, without changing MS/HS assignments, those changes won't necessarily get much pushback.

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Anonymous wrote:Where can we see the proposed boundary changes or is everything just speculation for now?

I have a kid at Langley and he said his friends from Great Falls may have to switch schools. I have heard about rezoning for years. These kids are smart and motivated. I don’t know how these smart kids would help the struggling kids at Herndon. On paper, the school would look better but all you are doing is moving smart white and Asian kids to Herndon. I actually think more parents would either move or switch to private before switching to Herndon. I know I would.

OMG. Herndon doesn’t care if those so-called superior kids come or not on the basis of their socio-economic basis. They don’t care if they come at all. They just want the government to make decisions without being bullied by the top 1-3% of households with high income in FCPS to do what is just in their best interest.

+1000. I helped pay for Herndon’s expansion so I expect kids who live two miles from Herndon and 10 miles from Langley to attend Herndon. Period.

They can be re-zoned there, sure. But there are already kids who live 2 miles from Herndon, are currently zoned to that school, and don’t attend.

There are also kids who live two miles from Langley who attend other schools, including Marshall and Potomac. We can’t always force kids to attend the public schools in their area, but we can at least have boundaries that aren’t obviously gerrymandered.

I’m with you. Clean up 🧹 the boundaries and motivate more parents to get their children out of FCPS.

If being zoned to the schools their kids should attend leads Great Falls parents to exit FCPS, good riddance.

+1. Herndon mom here. We don’t need disgruntled former Langley families complaining about being forced to move to FARMS school. Please go private, but continue paying those Fairfax taxes.

You don’t realize that you’re the problem, not your kids. You’re lazy and happy to take other people’s resources.

You keep saying you don’t need us, then make comments like this saying the exact opposite. Do you depend on us or do you want nothing to do with us?

I think the Herndon parents would be happy to welcome any family that attends HHS without the grumbling, kevetching, and calling the kids who attend the school gang bangers. They are less thrilled to have the families who seem to think that their kids will be attending a school that is inferior with kids that they look down on or are afraid of. To be frank, your attitude sucks. No one doubts the desire to want to provide the best you can for your child but in doing so you are spending a lot of time trashing another group of kids and their school. It is not a good look.

It may not be a good look but it reflects the attitude of Langley parents. As a group, and especially when they get together and work themselves into a collective frenzy, they are just awful.

I generally think Great Falls residents are amazing. It’s funny the SJWs in this site really have changed my political views, but not in the way that they would have hoped.

You just stereotyped all Great Falls as awful. Have fun working the PTA with people you dislike so much!

The critics forget themselves. McLean carries the financial weight of FCPS and can create its own school district, avoid this mess, preserve our home values, and ensure the richness of the schools and their programs. If we decide, what options do the critics have? In truth, nothing. McLean has all to gain and nothing to lose. It fundraises Fairfax Democrats, and any aspiring politician will toe the line. This current bunch has forgotten its place. People moved to McLean for a reason. Accept that reality and pick another target.

Go ahead. Try to incorporate McLean and create your own schools. We will get out the popcorn while we watch you make that happen. The headlines will be a fun read too.

I think you've lost the plot.

McLean is largely sitting out this boundary discussion. If you live in McLean you're still going to end up at Langley, McLean, or Marshall (or TJ). You aren't agitated like the Great Falls posters, who are upset about the prospect of going to Herndon and in some cases blame McLean for (1) voting for Democrats and/or (2) having kids who might get rezoned from McLean to Langley (thus prompting the possible Langley-to-Herndon move).

No one in McLean thinks it's going to incorporate as a separate jurisdiction, especially with the recent extension of the moratorium through 2032. The MCA had a small committee looking at incorporation, which it disbanded once the state legislature extended the prohibition and Youngkin signed the bill.

Most people are sitting this out. The only people who are really upset are the people who live in ares that are highly likely to be rezoned to schools they deem less desirable. We are mainly reading posts from people who are in Great Falls and know that they might be moved to Herndon and the WSHS families who might be moved to Lewis. I have not seen many posts from people coming out of Chantilly or Centerville probably because they know the schools need relief and most of the alternative HSs are solid schools. I am guessing parents would prefer not to move but they are less up in arms because where they might be moved is less objectionable and they know that the schools are crowded.

There are parents wh are happy with the upcoming changes because they hope that it will improve their school and help their kids. But most of the County knows that their kids are not in the margins that are going to be shifted and are not that worried about it. I don't think anyone really expects that the school board is going to shift boundaries every 5 years. Most people understand that more periodic reviews should help to decrease some of the utilization issues that exist now.

Or, it just isn’t on a lot of people’s radar yet. When the maps come out is when the real outrage will begin.

Then repeat every five years.

It's on peoples radar. The newspaper articles and meetings have been posted on my neighborhood Facebook page. My kid is in activities that meet during the summer with kids at 5 different high schools and all of the parents have mentioned it. People are aware but none of them seem to be all that excited about it one way or the other. Some live close to the HS that they are at right now or where the kids are going to be attending. Some because they are not worried about shifting between the schools in their area.

And no one I know thinks that there will be shifts every 5 years.

I’ve met several people, with kids in the line of fire who haven’t heard of the boundary review, and that’s people likely directly impacted by it. You’re right that some people won’t care, but you are just trying to minimize/downplay the upcoming blowback.

No one that I know thinks that there will be shifts every five years, except for everyone who has read the policy and knows the boundary review is required by the school board. Your attempts at gaslighting on this point is incredibly transparent and not credible.

There could be shifts every 5 years, but involving different areas. I assume PP meant shifts affecting the same neighborhoods every 5 years.

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When college admissions time comes around, I always hear about how much “easier” it is to get into W&M or UVA if your kid goes to a Justice, Edison or Herndon because there is less competition within the student body. Many Langley and Mclean parents complain about their kids being at a disadvantage. Just something to consider. Also, it is much easier for your kid to be selected to leadership positions at these less desireable schools.

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Anonymous wrote:When college admissions time comes around, I always hear about how much “easier” it is to get into W&M or UVA if your kid goes to a Justice, Edison or Herndon because there is less competition within the student body. Many Langley and Mclean parents complain about their kids being at a disadvantage. Just something to consider. Also, it is much easier for your kid to be selected to leadership positions at these less desireable schools.

Why is there a constant drone from posters on this point. We’ve heard your argument repeatedly for why our children should love being redistricted.

If we wanted to take advantage of those supposed opportunities, we would have moved to those schools in the first place.

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What’s interesting about the issue of overcrowding is that the board voted to close a high performing ES 8 years ago, and Frisch killed a plan for an ES so he and his partner could have a dog park.

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Anonymous wrote:I am sure many Great Falls parents are amazing, but there are also many loud ones who assume Herndon High School is a gang infested hell-hole. Seems like stereotyping to me. Despite having fewer legacy students, and parents with deep pockets to get their kids into all the right activities, we at Herndon, continue to send a good number of high achieving students to amazing universities.

My kid went to UVA, which may not be an Ivy league school, but from what I hear, is sought after at Langley and Mclean parents.

As I mentioned, I never thought about Herndon one way or another until this. You all are the ones putting words in our mouths calling your own school a “gang infested hell-hole”. I chose my words carefully and would never say that, in fact, I literally said a couple pages back that I’m sure there are good kids there. I also said I’ve read the articles, and from the face of it, there appears to be gang problems at the school. Call me racist or whatever you will, but we plan to avoid that dynamic for our kids - I’m still amazed that you all think that this is controversial.

I’m thrilled for you that you chose to go to Herndon and it worked out for your kids. I hope it works out for all kids at Herndon. But it isn’t the school that we signed up for, nor plan to attend. I’ll leave those UVA spots for whoever redistricting brings your way.

The time for average kids being able to get into a private high school was prior to covid. There aren't enough seats now so even the schools that used to take everyone are being choosy. If every kid in great falls starts trying to get out following a boundary change, lots of parents who thought they could choose private will be disappointed.

I think the board will catch most of the Langley kids rezoned to Herndon and West Springfield kids to Lewis.

It’s a financial hit that not everyone can take to go private unplanned. Not many people can just sell a classic car and give up their Istanbul trip and make the finances work so close to having to shell out for college. Of course, some people will opt for some kind of online high school/private tutor combination, pooling funds especially those who will refuse for safety reasons.

It’s the elementary level that will set the trends. Parents who don’t want to or can’t get into private but feel the new public school’s academics aren’t up to standard will refuse.
They can more easily and readily set up pods and co-ops, choosing good curriculums and deciding what style (Montessori, Waldorf, Classical etc) they will go with and sharing costs of supplies and deciding who has the best lower level/backyard for classes etc.
Bet you they start competing to see which co-op scores higher on yearly testing and have spelling contests and geography bees.
Those parents have years to make the finances work for private high schools, which in the meantime will have those years to expand/plan expansions.

yea, that won't happen. It's more work and carries more stigma than most families are willing to deal with

How can those 50-100 families show their faces at Trump or Riverbend if anyone finds out they refused to send their child to an elementary school in the Herndon pyramid?

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I have a kid at Langley and he said his friends from Great Falls may have to switch schools. I have heard about rezoning for years. These kids are smart and motivated. I don’t know how these smart kids would help the struggling kids at Herndon. On paper, the school would look better but all you are doing is moving smart white and Asian kids to Herndon. I actually think more parents would either move or switch to private before switching to Herndon. I know I would.

OMG. Herndon doesn’t care if those so-called superior kids come or not on the basis of their socio-economic basis. They don’t care if they come at all. They just want the government to make decisions without being bullied by the top 1-3% of households with high income in FCPS to do what is just in their best interest.

+1000. I helped pay for Herndon’s expansion so I expect kids who live two miles from Herndon and 10 miles from Langley to attend Herndon. Period.

They can be re-zoned there, sure. But there are already kids who live 2 miles from Herndon, are currently zoned to that school, and don’t attend.

There are also kids who live two miles from Langley who attend other schools, including Marshall and Potomac. We can’t always force kids to attend the public schools in their area, but we can at least have boundaries that aren’t obviously gerrymandered.

I’m with you. Clean up 🧹 the boundaries and motivate more parents to get their children out of FCPS.

If being zoned to the schools their kids should attend leads Great Falls parents to exit FCPS, good riddance.

Wow. This makes me so sad. Sorry I bought a home in a nice neighborhood. Didn’t realize you’d hate me for it.

Signed single mom of special needs kid
Who works really really hard.

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I have a kid at Langley and he said his friends from Great Falls may have to switch schools. I have heard about rezoning for years. These kids are smart and motivated. I don’t know how these smart kids would help the struggling kids at Herndon. On paper, the school would look better but all you are doing is moving smart white and Asian kids to Herndon. I actually think more parents would either move or switch to private before switching to Herndon. I know I would.

OMG. Herndon doesn’t care if those so-called superior kids come or not on the basis of their socio-economic basis. They don’t care if they come at all. They just want the government to make decisions without being bullied by the top 1-3% of households with high income in FCPS to do what is just in their best interest.

+1000. I helped pay for Herndon’s expansion so I expect kids who live two miles from Herndon and 10 miles from Langley to attend Herndon. Period.

They can be re-zoned there, sure. But there are already kids who live 2 miles from Herndon, are currently zoned to that school, and don’t attend.

There are also kids who live two miles from Langley who attend other schools, including Marshall and Potomac. We can’t always force kids to attend the public schools in their area, but we can at least have boundaries that aren’t obviously gerrymandered.

I’m with you. Clean up 🧹 the boundaries and motivate more parents to get their children out of FCPS.

If being zoned to the schools their kids should attend leads Great Falls parents to exit FCPS, good riddance.

Wow. This makes me so sad. Sorry I bought a home in a nice neighborhood. Didn’t realize you’d hate me for it.

Signed single mom of special needs kid
Who works really really hard.

Redistricting your neighborhood is not a denial of services to special needs kids. Boundary changes happen often in FCPS. You people just thought they happened to the little people, not Langley families.

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It makes more sense to use the existing capacity at Herndon and SL to start relieving Chantilly and centreville. Mclean kids can shift a few to Langley. But the western schools need relief now and waiting until a mega expansion is built in 5 years isn’t great.

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I have a kid at Langley and he said his friends from Great Falls may have to switch schools. I have heard about rezoning for years. These kids are smart and motivated. I don’t know how these smart kids would help the struggling kids at Herndon. On paper, the school would look better but all you are doing is moving smart white and Asian kids to Herndon. I actually think more parents would either move or switch to private before switching to Herndon. I know I would.

OMG. Herndon doesn’t care if those so-called superior kids come or not on the basis of their socio-economic basis. They don’t care if they come at all. They just want the government to make decisions without being bullied by the top 1-3% of households with high income in FCPS to do what is just in their best interest.

+1000. I helped pay for Herndon’s expansion so I expect kids who live two miles from Herndon and 10 miles from Langley to attend Herndon. Period.

They can be re-zoned there, sure. But there are already kids who live 2 miles from Herndon, are currently zoned to that school, and don’t attend.

There are also kids who live two miles from Langley who attend other schools, including Marshall and Potomac. We can’t always force kids to attend the public schools in their area, but we can at least have boundaries that aren’t obviously gerrymandered.

I’m with you. Clean up 🧹 the boundaries and motivate more parents to get their children out of FCPS.

If being zoned to the schools their kids should attend leads Great Falls parents to exit FCPS, good riddance.

+1. Herndon mom here. We don’t need disgruntled former Langley families complaining about being forced to move to FARMS school. Please go private, but continue paying those Fairfax taxes.

You don’t realize that you’re the problem, not your kids. You’re lazy and happy to take other people’s resources.

You keep saying you don’t need us, then make comments like this saying the exact opposite. Do you depend on us or do you want nothing to do with us?

I think the Herndon parents would be happy to welcome any family that attends HHS without the grumbling, kevetching, and calling the kids who attend the school gang bangers. They are less thrilled to have the families who seem to think that their kids will be attending a school that is inferior with kids that they look down on or are afraid of. To be frank, your attitude sucks. No one doubts the desire to want to provide the best you can for your child but in doing so you are spending a lot of time trashing another group of kids and their school. It is not a good look.

It may not be a good look but it reflects the attitude of Langley parents. As a group, and especially when they get together and work themselves into a collective frenzy, they are just awful.

I generally think Great Falls residents are amazing. It’s funny the SJWs in this site really have changed my political views, but not in the way that they would have hoped.

You just stereotyped all Great Falls as awful. Have fun working the PTA with people you dislike so much!

The critics forget themselves. McLean carries the financial weight of FCPS and can create its own school district, avoid this mess, preserve our home values, and ensure the richness of the schools and their programs. If we decide, what options do the critics have? In truth, nothing. McLean has all to gain and nothing to lose. It fundraises Fairfax Democrats, and any aspiring politician will toe the line. This current bunch has forgotten its place. People moved to McLean for a reason. Accept that reality and pick another target.

Go ahead. Try to incorporate McLean and create your own schools. We will get out the popcorn while we watch you make that happen. The headlines will be a fun read too.

I think you've lost the plot.

McLean is largely sitting out this boundary discussion. If you live in McLean you're still going to end up at Langley, McLean, or Marshall (or TJ). You aren't agitated like the Great Falls posters, who are upset about the prospect of going to Herndon and in some cases blame McLean for (1) voting for Democrats and/or (2) having kids who might get rezoned from McLean to Langley (thus prompting the possible Langley-to-Herndon move).

No one in McLean thinks it's going to incorporate as a separate jurisdiction, especially with the recent extension of the moratorium through 2032. The MCA had a small committee looking at incorporation, which it disbanded once the state legislature extended the prohibition and Youngkin signed the bill.

Most people are sitting this out. The only people who are really upset are the people who live in ares that are highly likely to be rezoned to schools they deem less desirable. We are mainly reading posts from people who are in Great Falls and know that they might be moved to Herndon and the WSHS families who might be moved to Lewis. I have not seen many posts from people coming out of Chantilly or Centerville probably because they know the schools need relief and most of the alternative HSs are solid schools. I am guessing parents would prefer not to move but they are less up in arms because where they might be moved is less objectionable and they know that the schools are crowded.

There are parents wh are happy with the upcoming changes because they hope that it will improve their school and help their kids. But most of the County knows that their kids are not in the margins that are going to be shifted and are not that worried about it. I don't think anyone really expects that the school board is going to shift boundaries every 5 years. Most people understand that more periodic reviews should help to decrease some of the utilization issues that exist now.

Or, it just isn’t on a lot of people’s radar yet. When the maps come out is when the real outrage will begin.

Then repeat every five years.

It's on peoples radar. The newspaper articles and meetings have been posted on my neighborhood Facebook page. My kid is in activities that meet during the summer with kids at 5 different high schools and all of the parents have mentioned it. People are aware but none of them seem to be all that excited about it one way or the other. Some live close to the HS that they are at right now or where the kids are going to be attending. Some because they are not worried about shifting between the schools in their area.

And no one I know thinks that there will be shifts every 5 years.

I’ve met several people, with kids in the line of fire who haven’t heard of the boundary review, and that’s people likely directly impacted by it. You’re right that some people won’t care, but you are just trying to minimize/downplay the upcoming blowback.

No one that I know thinks that there will be shifts every five years, except for everyone who has read the policy and knows the boundary review is required by the school board. Your attempts at gaslighting on this point is incredibly transparent and not credible.

There could be shifts every 5 years, but involving different areas. I assume PP meant shifts affecting the same neighborhoods every 5 years.

No one I know thought the school board would actually pass the policy revision.

(No one with the habit of not really paying attention, anyway).

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Anonymous wrote:Where can we see the proposed boundary changes or is everything just speculation for now?

I have a kid at Langley and he said his friends from Great Falls may have to switch schools. I have heard about rezoning for years. These kids are smart and motivated. I don’t know how these smart kids would help the struggling kids at Herndon. On paper, the school would look better but all you are doing is moving smart white and Asian kids to Herndon. I actually think more parents would either move or switch to private before switching to Herndon. I know I would.

OMG. Herndon doesn’t care if those so-called superior kids come or not on the basis of their socio-economic basis. They don’t care if they come at all. They just want the government to make decisions without being bullied by the top 1-3% of households with high income in FCPS to do what is just in their best interest.

+1000. I helped pay for Herndon’s expansion so I expect kids who live two miles from Herndon and 10 miles from Langley to attend Herndon. Period.

They can be re-zoned there, sure. But there are already kids who live 2 miles from Herndon, are currently zoned to that school, and don’t attend.

There are also kids who live two miles from Langley who attend other schools, including Marshall and Potomac. We can’t always force kids to attend the public schools in their area, but we can at least have boundaries that aren’t obviously gerrymandered.

I’m with you. Clean up 🧹 the boundaries and motivate more parents to get their children out of FCPS.

If being zoned to the schools their kids should attend leads Great Falls parents to exit FCPS, good riddance.

+1. Herndon mom here. We don’t need disgruntled former Langley families complaining about being forced to move to FARMS school. Please go private, but continue paying those Fairfax taxes.

You don’t realize that you’re the problem, not your kids. You’re lazy and happy to take other people’s resources.

You keep saying you don’t need us, then make comments like this saying the exact opposite. Do you depend on us or do you want nothing to do with us?

I think the Herndon parents would be happy to welcome any family that attends HHS without the grumbling, kevetching, and calling the kids who attend the school gang bangers. They are less thrilled to have the families who seem to think that their kids will be attending a school that is inferior with kids that they look down on or are afraid of. To be frank, your attitude sucks. No one doubts the desire to want to provide the best you can for your child but in doing so you are spending a lot of time trashing another group of kids and their school. It is not a good look.

It may not be a good look but it reflects the attitude of Langley parents. As a group, and especially when they get together and work themselves into a collective frenzy, they are just awful.

I generally think Great Falls residents are amazing. It’s funny the SJWs in this site really have changed my political views, but not in the way that they would have hoped.

You just stereotyped all Great Falls as awful. Have fun working the PTA with people you dislike so much!

The critics forget themselves. McLean carries the financial weight of FCPS and can create its own school district, avoid this mess, preserve our home values, and ensure the richness of the schools and their programs. If we decide, what options do the critics have? In truth, nothing. McLean has all to gain and nothing to lose. It fundraises Fairfax Democrats, and any aspiring politician will toe the line. This current bunch has forgotten its place. People moved to McLean for a reason. Accept that reality and pick another target.

Go ahead. Try to incorporate McLean and create your own schools. We will get out the popcorn while we watch you make that happen. The headlines will be a fun read too.

I think you've lost the plot.

McLean is largely sitting out this boundary discussion. If you live in McLean you're still going to end up at Langley, McLean, or Marshall (or TJ). You aren't agitated like the Great Falls posters, who are upset about the prospect of going to Herndon and in some cases blame McLean for (1) voting for Democrats and/or (2) having kids who might get rezoned from McLean to Langley (thus prompting the possible Langley-to-Herndon move).

No one in McLean thinks it's going to incorporate as a separate jurisdiction, especially with the recent extension of the moratorium through 2032. The MCA had a small committee looking at incorporation, which it disbanded once the state legislature extended the prohibition and Youngkin signed the bill.

Most people are sitting this out. The only people who are really upset are the people who live in ares that are highly likely to be rezoned to schools they deem less desirable. We are mainly reading posts from people who are in Great Falls and know that they might be moved to Herndon and the WSHS families who might be moved to Lewis. I have not seen many posts from people coming out of Chantilly or Centerville probably because they know the schools need relief and most of the alternative HSs are solid schools. I am guessing parents would prefer not to move but they are less up in arms because where they might be moved is less objectionable and they know that the schools are crowded.

There are parents wh are happy with the upcoming changes because they hope that it will improve their school and help their kids. But most of the County knows that their kids are not in the margins that are going to be shifted and are not that worried about it. I don't think anyone really expects that the school board is going to shift boundaries every 5 years. Most people understand that more periodic reviews should help to decrease some of the utilization issues that exist now.

Or, it just isn’t on a lot of people’s radar yet. When the maps come out is when the real outrage will begin.

Then repeat every five years.

It's on peoples radar. The newspaper articles and meetings have been posted on my neighborhood Facebook page. My kid is in activities that meet during the summer with kids at 5 different high schools and all of the parents have mentioned it. People are aware but none of them seem to be all that excited about it one way or the other. Some live close to the HS that they are at right now or where the kids are going to be attending. Some because they are not worried about shifting between the schools in their area.

And no one I know thinks that there will be shifts every 5 years.

I’ve met several people, with kids in the line of fire who haven’t heard of the boundary review, and that’s people likely directly impacted by it. You’re right that some people won’t care, but you are just trying to minimize/downplay the upcoming blowback.

No one that I know thinks that there will be shifts every five years, except for everyone who has read the policy and knows the boundary review is required by the school board. Your attempts at gaslighting on this point is incredibly transparent and not credible.

There could be shifts every 5 years, but involving different areas. I assume PP meant shifts affecting the same neighborhoods every 5 years.

No one I know thought the school board would actually pass the policy revision.

(No one with the habit of not really paying attention, anyway).

A lot of people keep saying “they have been trying to move boundaries for decades. It won’t happen”. I don’t think a lot of people know the SB passed this policy change and that Reid will start moving on boundary changes stat

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Anonymous wrote:Where can we see the proposed boundary changes or is everything just speculation for now?

I have a kid at Langley and he said his friends from Great Falls may have to switch schools. I have heard about rezoning for years. These kids are smart and motivated. I don’t know how these smart kids would help the struggling kids at Herndon. On paper, the school would look better but all you are doing is moving smart white and Asian kids to Herndon. I actually think more parents would either move or switch to private before switching to Herndon. I know I would.

OMG. Herndon doesn’t care if those so-called superior kids come or not on the basis of their socio-economic basis. They don’t care if they come at all. They just want the government to make decisions without being bullied by the top 1-3% of households with high income in FCPS to do what is just in their best interest.

+1000. I helped pay for Herndon’s expansion so I expect kids who live two miles from Herndon and 10 miles from Langley to attend Herndon. Period.

They can be re-zoned there, sure. But there are already kids who live 2 miles from Herndon, are currently zoned to that school, and don’t attend.

There are also kids who live two miles from Langley who attend other schools, including Marshall and Potomac. We can’t always force kids to attend the public schools in their area, but we can at least have boundaries that aren’t obviously gerrymandered.

I’m with you. Clean up 🧹 the boundaries and motivate more parents to get their children out of FCPS.

If being zoned to the schools their kids should attend leads Great Falls parents to exit FCPS, good riddance.

+1. Herndon mom here. We don’t need disgruntled former Langley families complaining about being forced to move to FARMS school. Please go private, but continue paying those Fairfax taxes.

You don’t realize that you’re the problem, not your kids. You’re lazy and happy to take other people’s resources.

You keep saying you don’t need us, then make comments like this saying the exact opposite. Do you depend on us or do you want nothing to do with us?

I think the Herndon parents would be happy to welcome any family that attends HHS without the grumbling, kevetching, and calling the kids who attend the school gang bangers. They are less thrilled to have the families who seem to think that their kids will be attending a school that is inferior with kids that they look down on or are afraid of. To be frank, your attitude sucks. No one doubts the desire to want to provide the best you can for your child but in doing so you are spending a lot of time trashing another group of kids and their school. It is not a good look.

It may not be a good look but it reflects the attitude of Langley parents. As a group, and especially when they get together and work themselves into a collective frenzy, they are just awful.

I generally think Great Falls residents are amazing. It’s funny the SJWs in this site really have changed my political views, but not in the way that they would have hoped.

You just stereotyped all Great Falls as awful. Have fun working the PTA with people you dislike so much!

The critics forget themselves. McLean carries the financial weight of FCPS and can create its own school district, avoid this mess, preserve our home values, and ensure the richness of the schools and their programs. If we decide, what options do the critics have? In truth, nothing. McLean has all to gain and nothing to lose. It fundraises Fairfax Democrats, and any aspiring politician will toe the line. This current bunch has forgotten its place. People moved to McLean for a reason. Accept that reality and pick another target.

Go ahead. Try to incorporate McLean and create your own schools. We will get out the popcorn while we watch you make that happen. The headlines will be a fun read too.

I think you've lost the plot.

McLean is largely sitting out this boundary discussion. If you live in McLean you're still going to end up at Langley, McLean, or Marshall (or TJ). You aren't agitated like the Great Falls posters, who are upset about the prospect of going to Herndon and in some cases blame McLean for (1) voting for Democrats and/or (2) having kids who might get rezoned from McLean to Langley (thus prompting the possible Langley-to-Herndon move).

No one in McLean thinks it's going to incorporate as a separate jurisdiction, especially with the recent extension of the moratorium through 2032. The MCA had a small committee looking at incorporation, which it disbanded once the state legislature extended the prohibition and Youngkin signed the bill.

Most people are sitting this out. The only people who are really upset are the people who live in ares that are highly likely to be rezoned to schools they deem less desirable. We are mainly reading posts from people who are in Great Falls and know that they might be moved to Herndon and the WSHS families who might be moved to Lewis. I have not seen many posts from people coming out of Chantilly or Centerville probably because they know the schools need relief and most of the alternative HSs are solid schools. I am guessing parents would prefer not to move but they are less up in arms because where they might be moved is less objectionable and they know that the schools are crowded.

There are parents wh are happy with the upcoming changes because they hope that it will improve their school and help their kids. But most of the County knows that their kids are not in the margins that are going to be shifted and are not that worried about it. I don't think anyone really expects that the school board is going to shift boundaries every 5 years. Most people understand that more periodic reviews should help to decrease some of the utilization issues that exist now.

Or, it just isn’t on a lot of people’s radar yet. When the maps come out is when the real outrage will begin.

Then repeat every five years.

It's on peoples radar. The newspaper articles and meetings have been posted on my neighborhood Facebook page. My kid is in activities that meet during the summer with kids at 5 different high schools and all of the parents have mentioned it. People are aware but none of them seem to be all that excited about it one way or the other. Some live close to the HS that they are at right now or where the kids are going to be attending. Some because they are not worried about shifting between the schools in their area.

And no one I know thinks that there will be shifts every 5 years.

I’ve met several people, with kids in the line of fire who haven’t heard of the boundary review, and that’s people likely directly impacted by it. You’re right that some people won’t care, but you are just trying to minimize/downplay the upcoming blowback.

No one that I know thinks that there will be shifts every five years, except for everyone who has read the policy and knows the boundary review is required by the school board. Your attempts at gaslighting on this point is incredibly transparent and not credible.

Boundary review is required. Not boundary changes. Boundary review. They can look at boundaries and go "We don't need to make any changes." They could look at the boundaries and see that a school is now over crowded and review if they need to make a shift in order to deal with the over crowding. They might decide they don't need to make a change because it is caused by event X or they might decide that they do because cause X is more long term and not a one off.

The change is going to suck for kids moved from Langley to Herndon and WSHS to Lewis. The schools they are moving to are very different schools. There is no getting around that. I get why parents are upset and concerned. Do I think that the boundary adjustments shouldn't be made? No. We have overcrowded schools and under utilized schools, lets use the space that we have intelligently.

If my kid is moved he will move from a mid level school to another mid level school. He isn't in high school yet and I am not attached to the high school he is set to go to. All that he cares about is that he stays with his friends from his ES days and he will be because his ES is not a split feeder.

I am comfortable with his being moved to a different school, even Herndon, because I know that there is a solid AP program and he will be moving into that cohort. I would prefer he stay where he is rather then move to Herndon but I am not selling my house to move to a different school. I am not renting an apartment to get into a different school. We cannot afford private. I know enough people who have graduated from Herndon and have had great experiences there. None of their kids have had issues that folks on this board are worried about. I would prefer he move into a school that is less of a school within a school because I don't think that is the best environment. I don't think moving MC and UMC kids into Herndon or Lewis or Mt. Vernon is going to make a difference in the lives of the kids who are struggling. I also don't think you build an extension to a school when there are open seats nearby.