Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Jordan right next to the West Bank? How is this any difference than Gaza? Moving them from east to west is supposed to the grand save? Really?
How about kicking Netanyahu out of power so Hamas’s sugar daddy is no longer in charge?
If they are moved to Jordan, Jordan will turn from a puppet state of Israel in to a majority Palestinian state. The West Bank will be annexed by the new Jordan. This is the best chance of a Palestinian state in 100 years.
Jordan is too close.
The best chance for a Palestinian state is in an alternative universe.
You do not get to decide. You have to pay us back for the billions we have lent you. Oh and how about publicly thanks the US? I have never seen anyone from the Israeli government ever thank the US.
Neither do you. The IDF is deciding for you, as partial payment for nearly a century of terror.
And where is all the Palestinian gratitude to the U.S. and the U.N. for their billions in aid? I suppose it's evident in good deeds, if not words? Deeds like the construction of subterranean military facilities nice new uniforms and green headbands, stages on which to parade hostages, and weapons used against their neighbor? Gratitude indeed.
And what about the almost a century of terror -- including massacres, rapes, throwing children into ovens, torture, unlawful detention, brutal eviction, and land/property theft -- that Israel has perpetrated against Palestinians for nearly a century?
Let's face it, the fundamental goal of Zionism is genocide for the sake of land theft. Zionists lust after other people's land and will steal it by any means necessary, including murder and displacement. In the eyes of most Zionists, Palestinians are at best an inconvenience to be erased and at worst an outlet for sadism. Why would you be surprised when Palestinians occasionally fight back? The Zionist cause is racist, murderous, and supremely narcissistic. Zionism is a sick cult that requires extreme religious fundamentalism, an extraordinarily selfish degree of ethnocentricity, and a sociopathic disregard for the rights, needs, and humanity of "the other." It's a stain on humanity that such a murderous cult exists in the 21st century.
The evil and selfishness of Zionism is illustrated by the bloodlust and callousness some of its proponents exhibit in this forum. It's quite sickening to read the racism and psychopathy on display against Palestinian people.
So many opinions.
Not a shred of proof.
All hallmarks of a paid Ham-A$$ troll from Gaza troll farm.
Normal people should not engage.
Israel was established by terrorists committing terrorism to achieve their aims. The historical record is irrefutable. You will never outrun those facts.
As for mention “normal people” … wow, are you just about the least self-aware individual imaginable or what?!
it must be interesting inside your head, a place where the violent armed rejection of an Arab state by the Arabs in 1948 leads logically to terrorism forever after against the Jewish state created at the same time, so that there can some day be a separate Arab state for the Gazans. Doesn't make any sense, but to realize that you have to appreciate the irony of Palestinian behavior. "Let's engage in unspeakable terror on Oct 7, that'll get us our own country in all of what is now Israel! What could go wrong!" 40,000 dead Palestinians later, "That didn't go too well, did it?"
Get real.
If Jews came To American and wanted half of the land from Americans, would you agree?
Depends, has America been the ancestral home of Jews since 2,000 BCE? Have Jews been repeatedly violently forced out of America despite this fact? Starting with the Babylonians, Romans, British, and most recently the Palestinians?
why have they always been forced out?
Because God loves them more than others apparently
Antisemitism in a nutshell right here
+1 Zionists and Project 2025 are the same.
The sooner everyone realizes this, the better.
And so what, even if true?
The IDF seems to be preparing to roll back in to Gaza to do the job properly this time. The only way out for the Palestinians is for Hamas to release the hostages and surrender. Their intransigence is the barrier to ending the current conflict If Hamas refuses to surrender, and doesn't release the hostages, it'll be the end of Gaza as a separate geographic and political entity. All the pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel, bloviating in the world is not going to change that future.
Hamas can prevent further Palestinian deaths and suffering, but most think they prefer that to acknowledging their impotence in the face of Israel.
If it were up to Gazans, Hamas would be gone tomorrow.
Somebody’s keeping Hamas strapped with arms and cash.
That somebody is the Israeli president. He pays Hamas more than he does the IDF. Hamas are his real minions.
When will Israelis finally wake up and see this?
What nonsense. Do you also think space aliens are behind everything bad which happens to Palestinians?
You conveniently forget that Hamas is a Palestinian creation, made of up people raised and indoctrinated within Gaza, by - surprise! Palestinians. Who voted initially for Hamas, whose charter explicitly calls for the destruction of Israel? Here's a clue, it wasn't Israeli voters. Who sustains Hamas now, standing by passively when they use civilian infrastructure to hide themselves, and diverting foreign aid to military purposes? Failing to acknowledge that Hamas would be powerless without Iranian support is more than naive and disingenuous. If you argue that Israel is secretly providing Hamas with arms, be prepared for the scorn you deserve for making assertions which are the product of either hallucinations or mental illness.
This is not a hallucination. I’ve learned this from Israeli newspapers. It’s kind of like Israel is the parent here as they run the Palestinian Territories (everything that comes in, everything that comes out) .
Palestinians again do not have an airport. They use El Al Airport in Tel Aviv. They do not have a currency. They do not have any way to get Iranian or Qatari money without Israel knowing about it.
Qatar has openly admitted they send their guys with Hamas cash to El Al Airport where Israeli security drives them to the Gaza Strip.
One can say perhaps for security reasons, Israel didn’t want Gazans to be cash strapped or unstable with a failed government so they funded Hamas as best they could but then you have to wonder why the same cash wasn’t allowed to enter the West Bank. Why didn’t Israel make settlements again in Gaza like they are right now in the West Bank?
The West Bank is the demilitarized Palestinian government and that’s the one Israel doesn’t respect the sovereignty of, but they respected the sovereignty of the Gaza Strip because they had a military. This is awful and just proved to Palestinians a peaceful state won’t be a state next to Israel. Israel failed to legitimize the best /most pro Israel demilitarized neutered Palestinian government they could ever dream of with the West Bank, instead choosing to make anti Semite Jewish murderers billionaires.
Israel has themselves to blame for being so stupid. Netanyahu thought he was being shrewd by choosing the extremist Palestinian right over the Palestinian left
Make sure you don't travel too far, lest you fall off the earth. And, I imagine you think the moon landing was filmed in a studio on Earth, Kennedy was killed by the CIA, and Paul McCartney is dead, as can be readily seen by him being barefoot while crossing Abbey Road.
Your posts make just as much sense.
You are engaging with a rabid Ham-a$$ troll who likely gets paid to flood DCUM with lies and vitriol. Save your breath.
Why this individual (or team) is still around while a lot tamer posters have been banned from this discussion board- that's a discussion for another day.
Also, do you know what board you’re on? Ever read one of Jeff’s posts?
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Jordan right next to the West Bank? How is this any difference than Gaza? Moving them from east to west is supposed to the grand save? Really?
How about kicking Netanyahu out of power so Hamas’s sugar daddy is no longer in charge?
If they are moved to Jordan, Jordan will turn from a puppet state of Israel in to a majority Palestinian state. The West Bank will be annexed by the new Jordan. This is the best chance of a Palestinian state in 100 years.
Jordan is too close.
The best chance for a Palestinian state is in an alternative universe.
You do not get to decide. You have to pay us back for the billions we have lent you. Oh and how about publicly thanks the US? I have never seen anyone from the Israeli government ever thank the US.
Neither do you. The IDF is deciding for you, as partial payment for nearly a century of terror.
And where is all the Palestinian gratitude to the U.S. and the U.N. for their billions in aid? I suppose it's evident in good deeds, if not words? Deeds like the construction of subterranean military facilities nice new uniforms and green headbands, stages on which to parade hostages, and weapons used against their neighbor? Gratitude indeed.
And what about the almost a century of terror -- including massacres, rapes, throwing children into ovens, torture, unlawful detention, brutal eviction, and land/property theft -- that Israel has perpetrated against Palestinians for nearly a century?
Let's face it, the fundamental goal of Zionism is genocide for the sake of land theft. Zionists lust after other people's land and will steal it by any means necessary, including murder and displacement. In the eyes of most Zionists, Palestinians are at best an inconvenience to be erased and at worst an outlet for sadism. Why would you be surprised when Palestinians occasionally fight back? The Zionist cause is racist, murderous, and supremely narcissistic. Zionism is a sick cult that requires extreme religious fundamentalism, an extraordinarily selfish degree of ethnocentricity, and a sociopathic disregard for the rights, needs, and humanity of "the other." It's a stain on humanity that such a murderous cult exists in the 21st century.
The evil and selfishness of Zionism is illustrated by the bloodlust and callousness some of its proponents exhibit in this forum. It's quite sickening to read the racism and psychopathy on display against Palestinian people.
So many opinions.
Not a shred of proof.
All hallmarks of a paid Ham-A$$ troll from Gaza troll farm.
Normal people should not engage.
Israel was established by terrorists committing terrorism to achieve their aims. The historical record is irrefutable. You will never outrun those facts.
As for mention “normal people” … wow, are you just about the least self-aware individual imaginable or what?!
it must be interesting inside your head, a place where the violent armed rejection of an Arab state by the Arabs in 1948 leads logically to terrorism forever after against the Jewish state created at the same time, so that there can some day be a separate Arab state for the Gazans. Doesn't make any sense, but to realize that you have to appreciate the irony of Palestinian behavior. "Let's engage in unspeakable terror on Oct 7, that'll get us our own country in all of what is now Israel! What could go wrong!" 40,000 dead Palestinians later, "That didn't go too well, did it?"
Get real.
If Jews came To American and wanted half of the land from Americans, would you agree?
Depends, has America been the ancestral home of Jews since 2,000 BCE? Have Jews been repeatedly violently forced out of America despite this fact? Starting with the Babylonians, Romans, British, and most recently the Palestinians?
why have they always been forced out?
Because God loves them more than others apparently
Antisemitism in a nutshell right here
+1 Zionists and Project 2025 are the same.
The sooner everyone realizes this, the better.
And so what, even if true?
The IDF seems to be preparing to roll back in to Gaza to do the job properly this time. The only way out for the Palestinians is for Hamas to release the hostages and surrender. Their intransigence is the barrier to ending the current conflict If Hamas refuses to surrender, and doesn't release the hostages, it'll be the end of Gaza as a separate geographic and political entity. All the pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel, bloviating in the world is not going to change that future.
Hamas can prevent further Palestinian deaths and suffering, but most think they prefer that to acknowledging their impotence in the face of Israel.
If it were up to Gazans, Hamas would be gone tomorrow.
Somebody’s keeping Hamas strapped with arms and cash.
That somebody is the Israeli president. He pays Hamas more than he does the IDF. Hamas are his real minions.
When will Israelis finally wake up and see this?
What nonsense. Do you also think space aliens are behind everything bad which happens to Palestinians?
You conveniently forget that Hamas is a Palestinian creation, made of up people raised and indoctrinated within Gaza, by - surprise! Palestinians. Who voted initially for Hamas, whose charter explicitly calls for the destruction of Israel? Here's a clue, it wasn't Israeli voters. Who sustains Hamas now, standing by passively when they use civilian infrastructure to hide themselves, and diverting foreign aid to military purposes? Failing to acknowledge that Hamas would be powerless without Iranian support is more than naive and disingenuous. If you argue that Israel is secretly providing Hamas with arms, be prepared for the scorn you deserve for making assertions which are the product of either hallucinations or mental illness.
This is not a hallucination. I’ve learned this from Israeli newspapers. It’s kind of like Israel is the parent here as they run the Palestinian Territories (everything that comes in, everything that comes out) .
Palestinians again do not have an airport. They use El Al Airport in Tel Aviv. They do not have a currency. They do not have any way to get Iranian or Qatari money without Israel knowing about it.
Qatar has openly admitted they send their guys with Hamas cash to El Al Airport where Israeli security drives them to the Gaza Strip.
One can say perhaps for security reasons, Israel didn’t want Gazans to be cash strapped or unstable with a failed government so they funded Hamas as best they could but then you have to wonder why the same cash wasn’t allowed to enter the West Bank. Why didn’t Israel make settlements again in Gaza like they are right now in the West Bank?
The West Bank is the demilitarized Palestinian government and that’s the one Israel doesn’t respect the sovereignty of, but they respected the sovereignty of the Gaza Strip because they had a military. This is awful and just proved to Palestinians a peaceful state won’t be a state next to Israel. Israel failed to legitimize the best /most pro Israel demilitarized neutered Palestinian government they could ever dream of with the West Bank, instead choosing to make anti Semite Jewish murderers billionaires.
Israel has themselves to blame for being so stupid. Netanyahu thought he was being shrewd by choosing the extremist Palestinian right over the Palestinian left
Make sure you don't travel too far, lest you fall off the earth. And, I imagine you think the moon landing was filmed in a studio on Earth, Kennedy was killed by the CIA, and Paul McCartney is dead, as can be readily seen by him being barefoot while crossing Abbey Road.
Your posts make just as much sense.
You are engaging with a rabid Ham-a$$ troll who likely gets paid to flood DCUM with lies and vitriol. Save your breath.
Why this individual (or team) is still around while a lot tamer posters have been banned from this discussion board- that's a discussion for another day.
Also, do you know what board you’re on? Ever read one of Jeff’s posts?
She seems to think it's the "pro-Hamas, poor-Palestinians, the Israelis are kicking our butts and it's so unfair" board, while every other post in the subforum is about domestic U.S. politics, as intended. I guess any platform for propaganda will do, if you can get away with it.
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Jordan right next to the West Bank? How is this any difference than Gaza? Moving them from east to west is supposed to the grand save? Really?
How about kicking Netanyahu out of power so Hamas’s sugar daddy is no longer in charge?
If they are moved to Jordan, Jordan will turn from a puppet state of Israel in to a majority Palestinian state. The West Bank will be annexed by the new Jordan. This is the best chance of a Palestinian state in 100 years.
Jordan is too close.
The best chance for a Palestinian state is in an alternative universe.
You do not get to decide. You have to pay us back for the billions we have lent you. Oh and how about publicly thanks the US? I have never seen anyone from the Israeli government ever thank the US.
Neither do you. The IDF is deciding for you, as partial payment for nearly a century of terror.
And where is all the Palestinian gratitude to the U.S. and the U.N. for their billions in aid? I suppose it's evident in good deeds, if not words? Deeds like the construction of subterranean military facilities nice new uniforms and green headbands, stages on which to parade hostages, and weapons used against their neighbor? Gratitude indeed.
And what about the almost a century of terror -- including massacres, rapes, throwing children into ovens, torture, unlawful detention, brutal eviction, and land/property theft -- that Israel has perpetrated against Palestinians for nearly a century?
Let's face it, the fundamental goal of Zionism is genocide for the sake of land theft. Zionists lust after other people's land and will steal it by any means necessary, including murder and displacement. In the eyes of most Zionists, Palestinians are at best an inconvenience to be erased and at worst an outlet for sadism. Why would you be surprised when Palestinians occasionally fight back? The Zionist cause is racist, murderous, and supremely narcissistic. Zionism is a sick cult that requires extreme religious fundamentalism, an extraordinarily selfish degree of ethnocentricity, and a sociopathic disregard for the rights, needs, and humanity of "the other." It's a stain on humanity that such a murderous cult exists in the 21st century.
The evil and selfishness of Zionism is illustrated by the bloodlust and callousness some of its proponents exhibit in this forum. It's quite sickening to read the racism and psychopathy on display against Palestinian people.
So many opinions.
Not a shred of proof.
All hallmarks of a paid Ham-A$$ troll from Gaza troll farm.
Normal people should not engage.
Israel was established by terrorists committing terrorism to achieve their aims. The historical record is irrefutable. You will never outrun those facts.
As for mention “normal people” … wow, are you just about the least self-aware individual imaginable or what?!
it must be interesting inside your head, a place where the violent armed rejection of an Arab state by the Arabs in 1948 leads logically to terrorism forever after against the Jewish state created at the same time, so that there can some day be a separate Arab state for the Gazans. Doesn't make any sense, but to realize that you have to appreciate the irony of Palestinian behavior. "Let's engage in unspeakable terror on Oct 7, that'll get us our own country in all of what is now Israel! What could go wrong!" 40,000 dead Palestinians later, "That didn't go too well, did it?"
Get real.
If Jews came To American and wanted half of the land from Americans, would you agree?
Depends, has America been the ancestral home of Jews since 2,000 BCE? Have Jews been repeatedly violently forced out of America despite this fact? Starting with the Babylonians, Romans, British, and most recently the Palestinians?
why have they always been forced out?
Because God loves them more than others apparently
Antisemitism in a nutshell right here
+1 Zionists and Project 2025 are the same.
The sooner everyone realizes this, the better.
And so what, even if true?
The IDF seems to be preparing to roll back in to Gaza to do the job properly this time. The only way out for the Palestinians is for Hamas to release the hostages and surrender. Their intransigence is the barrier to ending the current conflict If Hamas refuses to surrender, and doesn't release the hostages, it'll be the end of Gaza as a separate geographic and political entity. All the pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel, bloviating in the world is not going to change that future.
Hamas can prevent further Palestinian deaths and suffering, but most think they prefer that to acknowledging their impotence in the face of Israel.
If it were up to Gazans, Hamas would be gone tomorrow.
Somebody’s keeping Hamas strapped with arms and cash.
That somebody is the Israeli president. He pays Hamas more than he does the IDF. Hamas are his real minions.
When will Israelis finally wake up and see this?
What nonsense. Do you also think space aliens are behind everything bad which happens to Palestinians?
You conveniently forget that Hamas is a Palestinian creation, made of up people raised and indoctrinated within Gaza, by - surprise! Palestinians. Who voted initially for Hamas, whose charter explicitly calls for the destruction of Israel? Here's a clue, it wasn't Israeli voters. Who sustains Hamas now, standing by passively when they use civilian infrastructure to hide themselves, and diverting foreign aid to military purposes? Failing to acknowledge that Hamas would be powerless without Iranian support is more than naive and disingenuous. If you argue that Israel is secretly providing Hamas with arms, be prepared for the scorn you deserve for making assertions which are the product of either hallucinations or mental illness.
This is not a hallucination. I’ve learned this from Israeli newspapers. It’s kind of like Israel is the parent here as they run the Palestinian Territories (everything that comes in, everything that comes out) .
Palestinians again do not have an airport. They use El Al Airport in Tel Aviv. They do not have a currency. They do not have any way to get Iranian or Qatari money without Israel knowing about it.
Qatar has openly admitted they send their guys with Hamas cash to El Al Airport where Israeli security drives them to the Gaza Strip.
One can say perhaps for security reasons, Israel didn’t want Gazans to be cash strapped or unstable with a failed government so they funded Hamas as best they could but then you have to wonder why the same cash wasn’t allowed to enter the West Bank. Why didn’t Israel make settlements again in Gaza like they are right now in the West Bank?
The West Bank is the demilitarized Palestinian government and that’s the one Israel doesn’t respect the sovereignty of, but they respected the sovereignty of the Gaza Strip because they had a military. This is awful and just proved to Palestinians a peaceful state won’t be a state next to Israel. Israel failed to legitimize the best /most pro Israel demilitarized neutered Palestinian government they could ever dream of with the West Bank, instead choosing to make anti Semite Jewish murderers billionaires.
Israel has themselves to blame for being so stupid. Netanyahu thought he was being shrewd by choosing the extremist Palestinian right over the Palestinian left
Make sure you don't travel too far, lest you fall off the earth. And, I imagine you think the moon landing was filmed in a studio on Earth, Kennedy was killed by the CIA, and Paul McCartney is dead, as can be readily seen by him being barefoot while crossing Abbey Road.
Your posts make just as much sense.
You are engaging with a rabid Ham-a$$ troll who likely gets paid to flood DCUM with lies and vitriol. Save your breath.
Why this individual (or team) is still around while a lot tamer posters have been banned from this discussion board- that's a discussion for another day.
Also, do you know what board you’re on? Ever read one of Jeff’s posts?
She seems to think it's the "pro-Hamas, poor-Palestinians, the Israelis are kicking our butts and it's so unfair" board, while every other post in the subforum is about domestic U.S. politics, as intended. I guess any platform for propaganda will do, if you can get away with it.
Do you ever look within? Are you capable of looking beyond your anti-semitism cudgel to realize that you - yes, you - you’re part of the problem that others have been illuminating for thousands of years, and that they will continue to?
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Jordan right next to the West Bank? How is this any difference than Gaza? Moving them from east to west is supposed to the grand save? Really?
How about kicking Netanyahu out of power so Hamas’s sugar daddy is no longer in charge?
If they are moved to Jordan, Jordan will turn from a puppet state of Israel in to a majority Palestinian state. The West Bank will be annexed by the new Jordan. This is the best chance of a Palestinian state in 100 years.
Jordan is too close.
The best chance for a Palestinian state is in an alternative universe.
You do not get to decide. You have to pay us back for the billions we have lent you. Oh and how about publicly thanks the US? I have never seen anyone from the Israeli government ever thank the US.
Neither do you. The IDF is deciding for you, as partial payment for nearly a century of terror.
And where is all the Palestinian gratitude to the U.S. and the U.N. for their billions in aid? I suppose it's evident in good deeds, if not words? Deeds like the construction of subterranean military facilities nice new uniforms and green headbands, stages on which to parade hostages, and weapons used against their neighbor? Gratitude indeed.
And what about the almost a century of terror -- including massacres, rapes, throwing children into ovens, torture, unlawful detention, brutal eviction, and land/property theft -- that Israel has perpetrated against Palestinians for nearly a century?
Let's face it, the fundamental goal of Zionism is genocide for the sake of land theft. Zionists lust after other people's land and will steal it by any means necessary, including murder and displacement. In the eyes of most Zionists, Palestinians are at best an inconvenience to be erased and at worst an outlet for sadism. Why would you be surprised when Palestinians occasionally fight back? The Zionist cause is racist, murderous, and supremely narcissistic. Zionism is a sick cult that requires extreme religious fundamentalism, an extraordinarily selfish degree of ethnocentricity, and a sociopathic disregard for the rights, needs, and humanity of "the other." It's a stain on humanity that such a murderous cult exists in the 21st century.
The evil and selfishness of Zionism is illustrated by the bloodlust and callousness some of its proponents exhibit in this forum. It's quite sickening to read the racism and psychopathy on display against Palestinian people.
So many opinions.
Not a shred of proof.
All hallmarks of a paid Ham-A$$ troll from Gaza troll farm.
Normal people should not engage.
Israel was established by terrorists committing terrorism to achieve their aims. The historical record is irrefutable. You will never outrun those facts.
As for mention “normal people” … wow, are you just about the least self-aware individual imaginable or what?!
it must be interesting inside your head, a place where the violent armed rejection of an Arab state by the Arabs in 1948 leads logically to terrorism forever after against the Jewish state created at the same time, so that there can some day be a separate Arab state for the Gazans. Doesn't make any sense, but to realize that you have to appreciate the irony of Palestinian behavior. "Let's engage in unspeakable terror on Oct 7, that'll get us our own country in all of what is now Israel! What could go wrong!" 40,000 dead Palestinians later, "That didn't go too well, did it?"
Get real.
If Jews came To American and wanted half of the land from Americans, would you agree?
Depends, has America been the ancestral home of Jews since 2,000 BCE? Have Jews been repeatedly violently forced out of America despite this fact? Starting with the Babylonians, Romans, British, and most recently the Palestinians?
why have they always been forced out?
Because God loves them more than others apparently
Antisemitism in a nutshell right here
+1 Zionists and Project 2025 are the same.
The sooner everyone realizes this, the better.
And so what, even if true?
The IDF seems to be preparing to roll back in to Gaza to do the job properly this time. The only way out for the Palestinians is for Hamas to release the hostages and surrender. Their intransigence is the barrier to ending the current conflict If Hamas refuses to surrender, and doesn't release the hostages, it'll be the end of Gaza as a separate geographic and political entity. All the pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel, bloviating in the world is not going to change that future.
Hamas can prevent further Palestinian deaths and suffering, but most think they prefer that to acknowledging their impotence in the face of Israel.
If it were up to Gazans, Hamas would be gone tomorrow.
Somebody’s keeping Hamas strapped with arms and cash.
That somebody is the Israeli president. He pays Hamas more than he does the IDF. Hamas are his real minions.
When will Israelis finally wake up and see this?
What nonsense. Do you also think space aliens are behind everything bad which happens to Palestinians?
You conveniently forget that Hamas is a Palestinian creation, made of up people raised and indoctrinated within Gaza, by - surprise! Palestinians. Who voted initially for Hamas, whose charter explicitly calls for the destruction of Israel? Here's a clue, it wasn't Israeli voters. Who sustains Hamas now, standing by passively when they use civilian infrastructure to hide themselves, and diverting foreign aid to military purposes? Failing to acknowledge that Hamas would be powerless without Iranian support is more than naive and disingenuous. If you argue that Israel is secretly providing Hamas with arms, be prepared for the scorn you deserve for making assertions which are the product of either hallucinations or mental illness.
This is not a hallucination. I’ve learned this from Israeli newspapers. It’s kind of like Israel is the parent here as they run the Palestinian Territories (everything that comes in, everything that comes out) .
Palestinians again do not have an airport. They use El Al Airport in Tel Aviv. They do not have a currency. They do not have any way to get Iranian or Qatari money without Israel knowing about it.
Qatar has openly admitted they send their guys with Hamas cash to El Al Airport where Israeli security drives them to the Gaza Strip.
One can say perhaps for security reasons, Israel didn’t want Gazans to be cash strapped or unstable with a failed government so they funded Hamas as best they could but then you have to wonder why the same cash wasn’t allowed to enter the West Bank. Why didn’t Israel make settlements again in Gaza like they are right now in the West Bank?
The West Bank is the demilitarized Palestinian government and that’s the one Israel doesn’t respect the sovereignty of, but they respected the sovereignty of the Gaza Strip because they had a military. This is awful and just proved to Palestinians a peaceful state won’t be a state next to Israel. Israel failed to legitimize the best /most pro Israel demilitarized neutered Palestinian government they could ever dream of with the West Bank, instead choosing to make anti Semite Jewish murderers billionaires.
Israel has themselves to blame for being so stupid. Netanyahu thought he was being shrewd by choosing the extremist Palestinian right over the Palestinian left
Make sure you don't travel too far, lest you fall off the earth. And, I imagine you think the moon landing was filmed in a studio on Earth, Kennedy was killed by the CIA, and Paul McCartney is dead, as can be readily seen by him being barefoot while crossing Abbey Road.
Your posts make just as much sense.
You are engaging with a rabid Ham-a$$ troll who likely gets paid to flood DCUM with lies and vitriol. Save your breath.
Why this individual (or team) is still around while a lot tamer posters have been banned from this discussion board- that's a discussion for another day.
Also, do you know what board you’re on? Ever read one of Jeff’s posts?
DP
Yeah, his posts are sober, fact-based and reflective of reality. Since you operate in a propagandized alternate reality, I have no doubt his posts shake the foundation of your hasbara stupor. Good!
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t Jordan right next to the West Bank? How is this any difference than Gaza? Moving them from east to west is supposed to the grand save? Really?
How about kicking Netanyahu out of power so Hamas’s sugar daddy is no longer in charge?
If they are moved to Jordan, Jordan will turn from a puppet state of Israel in to a majority Palestinian state. The West Bank will be annexed by the new Jordan. This is the best chance of a Palestinian state in 100 years.
Jordan is too close.
The best chance for a Palestinian state is in an alternative universe.
You do not get to decide. You have to pay us back for the billions we have lent you. Oh and how about publicly thanks the US? I have never seen anyone from the Israeli government ever thank the US.
Neither do you. The IDF is deciding for you, as partial payment for nearly a century of terror.
And where is all the Palestinian gratitude to the U.S. and the U.N. for their billions in aid? I suppose it's evident in good deeds, if not words? Deeds like the construction of subterranean military facilities nice new uniforms and green headbands, stages on which to parade hostages, and weapons used against their neighbor? Gratitude indeed.
And what about the almost a century of terror -- including massacres, rapes, throwing children into ovens, torture, unlawful detention, brutal eviction, and land/property theft -- that Israel has perpetrated against Palestinians for nearly a century?
Let's face it, the fundamental goal of Zionism is genocide for the sake of land theft. Zionists lust after other people's land and will steal it by any means necessary, including murder and displacement. In the eyes of most Zionists, Palestinians are at best an inconvenience to be erased and at worst an outlet for sadism. Why would you be surprised when Palestinians occasionally fight back? The Zionist cause is racist, murderous, and supremely narcissistic. Zionism is a sick cult that requires extreme religious fundamentalism, an extraordinarily selfish degree of ethnocentricity, and a sociopathic disregard for the rights, needs, and humanity of "the other." It's a stain on humanity that such a murderous cult exists in the 21st century.
The evil and selfishness of Zionism is illustrated by the bloodlust and callousness some of its proponents exhibit in this forum. It's quite sickening to read the racism and psychopathy on display against Palestinian people.
So many opinions.
Not a shred of proof.
All hallmarks of a paid Ham-A$$ troll from Gaza troll farm.
Normal people should not engage.
Israel was established by terrorists committing terrorism to achieve their aims. The historical record is irrefutable. You will never outrun those facts.
As for mention “normal people” … wow, are you just about the least self-aware individual imaginable or what?!
it must be interesting inside your head, a place where the violent armed rejection of an Arab state by the Arabs in 1948 leads logically to terrorism forever after against the Jewish state created at the same time, so that there can some day be a separate Arab state for the Gazans. Doesn't make any sense, but to realize that you have to appreciate the irony of Palestinian behavior. "Let's engage in unspeakable terror on Oct 7, that'll get us our own country in all of what is now Israel! What could go wrong!" 40,000 dead Palestinians later, "That didn't go too well, did it?"
Get real.
If Jews came To American and wanted half of the land from Americans, would you agree?
Depends, has America been the ancestral home of Jews since 2,000 BCE? Have Jews been repeatedly violently forced out of America despite this fact? Starting with the Babylonians, Romans, British, and most recently the Palestinians?
why have they always been forced out?
Because God loves them more than others apparently
Antisemitism in a nutshell right here
+1 Zionists and Project 2025 are the same.
The sooner everyone realizes this, the better.
And so what, even if true?
The IDF seems to be preparing to roll back in to Gaza to do the job properly this time. The only way out for the Palestinians is for Hamas to release the hostages and surrender. Their intransigence is the barrier to ending the current conflict If Hamas refuses to surrender, and doesn't release the hostages, it'll be the end of Gaza as a separate geographic and political entity. All the pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel, bloviating in the world is not going to change that future.
Hamas can prevent further Palestinian deaths and suffering, but most think they prefer that to acknowledging their impotence in the face of Israel.
If it were up to Gazans, Hamas would be gone tomorrow.
Somebody’s keeping Hamas strapped with arms and cash.
That somebody is the Israeli president. He pays Hamas more than he does the IDF. Hamas are his real minions.
When will Israelis finally wake up and see this?
What nonsense. Do you also think space aliens are behind everything bad which happens to Palestinians?
You conveniently forget that Hamas is a Palestinian creation, made of up people raised and indoctrinated within Gaza, by - surprise! Palestinians. Who voted initially for Hamas, whose charter explicitly calls for the destruction of Israel? Here's a clue, it wasn't Israeli voters. Who sustains Hamas now, standing by passively when they use civilian infrastructure to hide themselves, and diverting foreign aid to military purposes? Failing to acknowledge that Hamas would be powerless without Iranian support is more than naive and disingenuous. If you argue that Israel is secretly providing Hamas with arms, be prepared for the scorn you deserve for making assertions which are the product of either hallucinations or mental illness.
Palestinians can’t even get chocolate into the Gaza Strip. Hamas is now an institution with billions at their disposal from Qatar, a foreign nation. How can they get this cash without the interception from Israel? There’s no airport in the Palestinian Territories. Do you get where I’m going with this? 30 years ago, Hamas was led by a paralyzed blind sheik out of his home. They had no money. Now they have money for SUV’s, RPG’s, tunnels, building schools, hospitals, paying Gazans a government salary.
The best they could get is moral support and labor from Palestinians, but they couldn’t survive without Qatar, Turkey, Iran, other ME countries, Israel. They dont get anything from Palestinians.
Israel does not want a moderate Gazan government because then the U.S. would pressure them back to two state solution talks which they absolutely do not want. Hamas is the devil Israel is ok with, as they serve a useful purpose. Their words..
Strange, then, that the IDF is apparently presently preparing to eradicate Hamas once and for all by occupying Gaza in response to Hamas' stubborn refusal to release the hostages. There won't much much left of the "devil Israel is ok with" when it's all over.
You are so naive. Wars are not meant to destroy the “enemy”. It’s just what politicians lie and say to their people. These people have been in business for a long long time together. Was Hamas very Islamic when they were trafficking opioids/drugs from Egypt into the Gaza Strip and Israel for drug dealing/business? Was Israel very Jewish when they were taking Qatari cash-which indeed Mr. Netanyahu and his wife have both pocketed in the millions? The shoe was going to drop regarding his bribery cases when he wanted to shut down the judiciary in 2023 and suddenly months later war happens.
I guess you’d also be shocked to learn we were in the drug business with the Taliban, Al Qaeda, even ISIS for the entire time we we were fighting them.
Why is Israel given any credibility like they are some competent first world nation? They will shoot a terrified 6 year old girl like Hind sixty times till the body is pulverized and shoot a mother with a baby in her arms but did a gentle handoff of their starved hostages and let Hamas drive off in their Uber black SUV’s without a scratch. How bad ass.
They actually do nothing when face to face with Hamas on 10/7 or during the hostage “takeoff”. The entire Hamas mob was out to cheer and taunt them and they didn’t rip out one shot.
And this country thinks they’re smart or militarily savvy.
I predict it will be the West Bank (with an assist from neighboring Jordan) to actually destroy Hamas not Israel. They have the credibility, they are the heart of Palestine, they were always historically liberal and very anti Hamas. They don’t like Israel either but they will not let Hamas take over the WB and “Gaza Strip” them. They’d rather live next to Shalom o and his annoying violent racist kids throwing rocks than have Hamas move in.
That’s who will destroy Hamas. Only another Arab nation/group can. Egypt was very close to doing it as well back in 2013, but Netanyahu told Egypt to stop flooding the Hamas tunnels
Anonymous wrote:I predict it will be the West Bank (with an assist from neighboring Jordan) to actually destroy Hamas not Israel. They have the credibility, they are the heart of Palestine, they were always historically liberal and very anti Hamas. They don’t like Israel either but they will not let Hamas take over the WB and “Gaza Strip” them. They’d rather live next to Shalom o and his annoying violent racist kids throwing rocks than have Hamas move in.
That’s who will destroy Hamas. Only another Arab nation/group can. Egypt was very close to doing it as well back in 2013, but Netanyahu told Egypt to stop flooding the Hamas tunnels
That would be just fine by everyone, I suspect. As long as Hamas exits.
Anonymous wrote:I predict it will be the West Bank (with an assist from neighboring Jordan) to actually destroy Hamas not Israel. They have the credibility, they are the heart of Palestine, they were always historically liberal and very anti Hamas. They don’t like Israel either but they will not let Hamas take over the WB and “Gaza Strip” them. They’d rather live next to Shalom o and his annoying violent racist kids throwing rocks than have Hamas move in.
That’s who will destroy Hamas. Only another Arab nation/group can. Egypt was very close to doing it as well back in 2013, but Netanyahu told Egypt to stop flooding the Hamas tunnels
For some mysterious reason, other "Arab nation/groups" seem uninterested in seriously intervening in Gaza's self-inflicted problems, apparently preferring to let Hamas simply be annihilated before their homicidal ideology can be exported further.
Anonymous wrote:I predict it will be the West Bank (with an assist from neighboring Jordan) to actually destroy Hamas not Israel. They have the credibility, they are the heart of Palestine, they were always historically liberal and very anti Hamas. They don’t like Israel either but they will not let Hamas take over the WB and “Gaza Strip” them. They’d rather live next to Shalom o and his annoying violent racist kids throwing rocks than have Hamas move in.
That’s who will destroy Hamas. Only another Arab nation/group can. Egypt was very close to doing it as well back in 2013, but Netanyahu told Egypt to stop flooding the Hamas tunnels
Like Hezbollah and the Houthis intervened to destroy Hamas? Arab birds of a feather, rather, who were dealt with similarly. Nobody is going to wipe out Hamas except the IDF.
Anonymous wrote:I predict it will be the West Bank (with an assist from neighboring Jordan) to actually destroy Hamas not Israel. They have the credibility, they are the heart of Palestine, they were always historically liberal and very anti Hamas. They don’t like Israel either but they will not let Hamas take over the WB and “Gaza Strip” them. They’d rather live next to Shalom o and his annoying violent racist kids throwing rocks than have Hamas move in.
That’s who will destroy Hamas. Only another Arab nation/group can. Egypt was very close to doing it as well back in 2013, but Netanyahu told Egypt to stop flooding the Hamas tunnels
Like Hezbollah and the Houthis intervened to destroy Hamas? Arab birds of a feather, rather, who were dealt with similarly. Nobody is going to wipe out Hamas except the IDF.
lol the IDF? Corrupted and incompetent the IDF can not even control Gaza! The US has left the world stage and you think Israel will survive?
Anonymous wrote:I predict it will be the West Bank (with an assist from neighboring Jordan) to actually destroy Hamas not Israel. They have the credibility, they are the heart of Palestine, they were always historically liberal and very anti Hamas. They don’t like Israel either but they will not let Hamas take over the WB and “Gaza Strip” them. They’d rather live next to Shalom o and his annoying violent racist kids throwing rocks than have Hamas move in.
That’s who will destroy Hamas. Only another Arab nation/group can. Egypt was very close to doing it as well back in 2013, but Netanyahu told Egypt to stop flooding the Hamas tunnels
Like Hezbollah and the Houthis intervened to destroy Hamas? Arab birds of a feather, rather, who were dealt with similarly. Nobody is going to wipe out Hamas except the IDF.
lol the IDF? Corrupted and incompetent the IDF can not even control Gaza! The US has left the world stage and you think Israel will survive?
We'll know soon, won't we? My money is not on a few bozos in green headbands and clean new Iranian-supplied uniforms, but you place your bets as you like.
Anonymous wrote:The IDF are incompetent, blood thirsty bafoons .
Who somehow have managed to eliminate Hezbollah and Hamas as effective military forces. I guess those groups were just unlucky, instead of incompetent themselves.
Anonymous wrote:The IDF are incompetent, blood thirsty bafoons .
Who somehow have managed to eliminate Hezbollah and Hamas as effective military forces. I guess those groups were just unlucky, instead of incompetent themselves.
Nope. They are still fighting Hamas and Hezbollah. Each grows stronger by the day. Tell us agin about how a few lightly armed men almost over ran Israel in one day.