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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Isn’t Jordan right next to the West Bank? How is this any difference than Gaza? Moving them from east to west is supposed to the grand save? Really? How about kicking Netanyahu out of power so Hamas’s sugar daddy is no longer in charge?[/quote] If they are moved to Jordan, Jordan will turn from a puppet state of Israel in to a majority Palestinian state. The West Bank will be annexed by the new Jordan. This is the best chance of a Palestinian state in 100 years. [/quote] Jordan is too close. The best chance for a Palestinian state is in an alternative universe. [/quote] You do not get to decide. You have to pay us back for the billions we have lent you. Oh and how about publicly thanks the US? I have never seen anyone from the Israeli government ever thank the US. [/quote] Neither do you. The IDF is deciding for you, as partial payment for nearly a century of terror. And where is all the Palestinian gratitude to the U.S. and the U.N. for their billions in aid? I suppose it's evident in good deeds, if not words? Deeds like the construction of subterranean military facilities nice new uniforms and green headbands, stages on which to parade hostages, and weapons used against their neighbor? Gratitude indeed. [/quote] And what about the almost a century of terror -- including massacres, rapes, throwing children into ovens, torture, unlawful detention, brutal eviction, and land/property theft -- that Israel has perpetrated against Palestinians for nearly a century? Let's face it, the fundamental goal of Zionism is genocide for the sake of land theft. Zionists lust after other people's land and will steal it by any means necessary, including murder and displacement. In the eyes of most Zionists, Palestinians are at best an inconvenience to be erased and at worst an outlet for sadism. Why would you be surprised when Palestinians occasionally fight back? The Zionist cause is racist, murderous, and supremely narcissistic. Zionism is a sick cult that requires extreme religious fundamentalism, an extraordinarily selfish degree of ethnocentricity, and a sociopathic disregard for the rights, needs, and humanity of "the other." It's a stain on humanity that such a murderous cult exists in the 21st century. The evil and selfishness of Zionism is illustrated by the bloodlust and callousness some of its proponents exhibit in this forum. It's quite sickening to read the racism and psychopathy on display against Palestinian people. [/quote] So many opinions. Not a shred of proof. All hallmarks of a paid Ham-A$$ troll from Gaza troll farm. Normal people should not engage.[/quote] Israel was established by terrorists committing terrorism to achieve their aims. The historical record is irrefutable. You will never outrun those facts. As for mention “normal people” … wow, are you just about the least self-aware individual imaginable or what?![/quote] it must be interesting inside your head, a place where the violent armed rejection of an Arab state by the Arabs in 1948 leads logically to terrorism forever after against the Jewish state created at the same time, so that there can some day be a separate Arab state for the Gazans. Doesn't make any sense, but to realize that you have to appreciate the irony of Palestinian behavior. "Let's engage in unspeakable terror on Oct 7, that'll get us our own country in all of what is now Israel! What could go wrong!" 40,000 dead Palestinians later, "That didn't go too well, did it?" Get real. [/quote] If Jews came To American and wanted half of the land from Americans, would you agree?[/quote] Depends, has America been the ancestral home of Jews since 2,000 BCE? Have Jews been repeatedly violently forced out of America despite this fact? Starting with the Babylonians, Romans, British, and most recently the Palestinians? [/quote] why have they always been forced out?[/quote] Because God loves them more than others apparently [/quote] Antisemitism in a nutshell right here [/quote] +1 Zionists and Project 2025 are the same. [/quote] The sooner everyone realizes this, the better.[/quote] And so what, even if true? The IDF seems to be preparing to roll back in to Gaza to do the job properly this time. The only way out for the Palestinians is for Hamas to release the hostages and surrender. Their intransigence is the barrier to ending the current conflict If Hamas refuses to surrender, and doesn't release the hostages, it'll be the end of Gaza as a separate geographic and political entity. All the pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel, bloviating in the world is not going to change that future. Hamas can prevent further Palestinian deaths and suffering, but most think they prefer that to acknowledging their impotence in the face of Israel. [/quote] If it were up to Gazans, Hamas would be gone tomorrow. Somebody’s keeping Hamas strapped with arms and cash. That somebody is the Israeli president. He pays Hamas more than he does the IDF. Hamas are his real minions. When will Israelis finally wake up and see this?[/quote] What nonsense. Do you also think space aliens are behind everything bad which happens to Palestinians? You conveniently forget that Hamas is a Palestinian creation, made of up people raised and indoctrinated within Gaza, by - surprise! Palestinians. Who voted initially for Hamas, whose charter explicitly calls for the destruction of Israel? Here's a clue, it wasn't Israeli voters. Who sustains Hamas now, standing by passively when they use civilian infrastructure to hide themselves, and diverting foreign aid to military purposes? Failing to acknowledge that Hamas would be powerless without Iranian support is more than naive and disingenuous. If you argue that Israel is secretly providing Hamas with arms, be prepared for the scorn you deserve for making assertions which are the product of either hallucinations or mental illness. [/quote] This is not a hallucination. I’ve learned this from Israeli newspapers. It’s kind of like Israel is the parent here as they run the Palestinian Territories (everything that comes in, everything that comes out) . Palestinians again do not have an airport. They use El Al Airport in Tel Aviv. They do not have a currency. They do not have any way to get Iranian or Qatari money without Israel knowing about it. Qatar has openly admitted they send their guys with Hamas cash to El Al Airport where Israeli security drives them to the Gaza Strip. One can say perhaps for security reasons, Israel didn’t want Gazans to be cash strapped or unstable with a failed government so they funded Hamas as best they could but then you have to wonder why the same cash wasn’t allowed to enter the West Bank. Why didn’t Israel make settlements again in Gaza like they are right now in the West Bank? The West Bank is the demilitarized Palestinian government and that’s the one Israel doesn’t respect the sovereignty of, but they respected the sovereignty of the Gaza Strip because they had a military. This is awful and just proved to Palestinians a peaceful state won’t be a state next to Israel. Israel failed to legitimize the best /most pro Israel demilitarized neutered Palestinian government they could ever dream of with the West Bank, instead choosing to make anti Semite Jewish murderers billionaires. Israel has themselves to blame for being so stupid. Netanyahu thought he was being shrewd by choosing the extremist Palestinian right over the Palestinian left[/quote] Make sure you don't travel too far, lest you fall off the earth. And, I imagine you think the moon landing was filmed in a studio on Earth, Kennedy was killed by the CIA, and Paul McCartney is dead, as can be readily seen by him being barefoot while crossing Abbey Road. Your posts make just as much sense. [/quote] You are engaging with a rabid Ham-a$$ troll who likely gets paid to flood DCUM with lies and vitriol. Save your breath. Why this individual (or team) is still around while a lot tamer posters have been banned from this discussion board- that's a discussion for another day. [/quote] Also, do you know what board you’re on? Ever read one of Jeff’s posts? [/quote] She seems to think it's the "pro-Hamas, poor-Palestinians, the Israelis are kicking our butts and it's so unfair" board, while every other post in the subforum is about domestic U.S. politics, as intended. I guess any platform for propaganda will do, if you can get away with it. [/quote] Do you ever look within? Are you capable of looking beyond your anti-semitism cudgel to realize that you - yes, you - you’re part of the problem that others have been illuminating for thousands of years, and that they will continue to?[/quote]
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