Official TJ Admissions Decisions Results for the Class of 2025

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You would think that an admit to TJ is equivalent to Harvard and Yale, but after viewing the TJ college matriculation list, a ticket to RIT, JMU, GMU, or CWR does not warrant all this sturm und drang.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would think that an admit to TJ is equivalent to Harvard and Yale, but after viewing the TJ college matriculation list, a ticket to RIT, JMU, GMU, or CWR does not warrant all this sturm und drang.

+1

True. Nothing to see here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You hit the nail on the head here. And while they talk a good game about “improving the pipeline” and “raising the quality in K-8” - which all progressives also agree is necessary - the reality of it is that the status quo folks don’t want the increased competition for elite college admissions that will come from providing opportunities for these underrepresented groups in environments like TJ.

They know that investing in the pipeline is a massive effort that will take decades - by which point their manufactured superstars will have exited that pipeline.

How the F do you know what people advocating the status quo want? I am so sick of people arguing based only on claims that their opponents have evil intent. Make real arguments for a change. The proponents for the status quo are simply arguing that the newly admitted are likely under prepared and the result will be they will wash out or TJ's education will be watered down. If the status quo folks were interested in college admissions, most would be better off in their base high school.
The "progressives" have been in charge of FCPS for years. If they actually wanted to improve the the pipeline for all of K-8, they have had their chance. They have failed.

I think that proponents of the "status quo" might be uncomfortable with the whole idea of a status quo, and see increased use of non-academic criteria and unclear weighting of criteria as a way of allowing a less flexible status quo (from the POV of students and families) to form. Maybe they take the admissions changes at face value - as a play by people who despise objectivity, merit, and individuality, but thirst for controversy and more effective excuses to write off abusive behavior. Maybe they're aware that a system that uses GPA to cast a broader net and essays to create wiggle room will give the school system the flexibility to doctor results and exclude people due to prejudice or corruption - yes of course we'd expect admissions to show good FARMS and URM numbers for now, if the school system's motivation is to convince people that it accomplishes that goal. Maybe they're worried that the school system has been mostly callous about the geniuses that TJ is supposed to serve, meaning that the hypothetical Black or Hispanic genius who might have been mislabeled as a problem in school because they were frustrated with its inanity might still go unrecognized. Maybe they're just a gosh darn Asian or an Eastern European immigrant, and they see this as a different kind of discrimination.

So many good reasons. None of which have anything to do with being anti-TJ resource sharing, anti-soft science, anti-progress, anti-URM, or anti-wasted prep investment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You hit the nail on the head here. And while they talk a good game about “improving the pipeline” and “raising the quality in K-8” - which all progressives also agree is necessary - the reality of it is that the status quo folks don’t want the increased competition for elite college admissions that will come from providing opportunities for these underrepresented groups in environments like TJ.

They know that investing in the pipeline is a massive effort that will take decades - by which point their manufactured superstars will have exited that pipeline.

How the F do you know what people advocating the status quo want? I am so sick of people arguing based only on claims that their opponents have evil intent. Make real arguments for a change. The proponents for the status quo are simply arguing that the newly admitted are likely under prepared and the result will be they will wash out or TJ's education will be watered down. If the status quo folks were interested in college admissions, most would be better off in their base high school.
The "progressives" have been in charge of FCPS for years. If they actually wanted to improve the the pipeline for all of K-8, they have had their chance. They have failed.

I think that proponents of the "status quo" might be uncomfortable with the whole idea of a status quo, and see increased use of non-academic criteria and unclear weighting of criteria as a way of allowing a less flexible status quo (from the POV of students and families) to form. Maybe they take the admissions changes at face value - as a play by people who despise objectivity, merit, and individuality, but thirst for controversy and more effective excuses to write off abusive behavior. Maybe they're aware that a system that uses GPA to cast a broader net and essays to create wiggle room will give the school system the flexibility to doctor results and exclude people due to prejudice or corruption - yes of course we'd expect admissions to show good FARMS and URM numbers for now, if the school system's motivation is to convince people that it accomplishes that goal. Maybe they're worried that the school system has been mostly callous about the geniuses that TJ is supposed to serve, meaning that the hypothetical Black or Hispanic genius who might have been mislabeled as a problem in school because they were frustrated with its inanity might still go unrecognized. Maybe they're just a gosh darn Asian or an Eastern European immigrant, and they see this as a different kind of discrimination.

So many good reasons. None of which have anything to do with being anti-TJ resource sharing, anti-soft science, anti-progress, anti-URM, or anti-wasted prep investment.

I don't think that's it. Because the status quo isn't about merit at all, but about who spends the most on prep classes which is a real problem since the majority of spots go to wealth families who spend the most on prep and often exclude genuinely talented students who simply didn't take prep classes.

[Anonymous]

That PP is full of false statements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That PP is full of false statements.

It's a well-known fact that prep centers like Curie account for the majority of admitted students. Pretending this isn't a thing isn't helpful to anyone.

[Anonymous]

No, they don’t account for a majority of a class — DCUM urban legend notwithstanding.

And, no, the families are not all wealthy (though they are not FARMS) — not like Langley or McLean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You would think that an admit to TJ is equivalent to Harvard and Yale, but after viewing the TJ college matriculation list, a ticket to RIT, JMU, GMU, or CWR does not warrant all this sturm und drang.

Schools you have listed are for bottom 10% of the graduating class mostly made up of URMs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would think that an admit to TJ is equivalent to Harvard and Yale, but after viewing the TJ college matriculation list, a ticket to RIT, JMU, GMU, or CWR does not warrant all this sturm und drang.

Schools you have listed are for bottom 10% of the graduating class mostly made up of URMs.

+1. TJ has the best college acceptances of any public high school in the country and best of any high schools in the DMV area looking at the last 10 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That PP is full of false statements.

It's a well-known fact that prep centers like Curie account for the majority of admitted students. Pretending this isn't a thing isn't helpful to anyone.

Curie boated how 30% of the incoming class went there and published their names. This in itself is impressive, but there are many other prep centers that account for the other 70%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, they don’t account for a majority of a class — DCUM urban legend notwithstanding.

And, no, the families are not all wealthy (though they are not FARMS) — not like Langley or McLean.

TJ has had the lowest percentage of FARMS kids of any high school in FCPS for several years. That will change with the change in admissions criteria.

Next to TJ, Langley and Madison are the two high schools with the lowest percentages of FARMS kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would think that an admit to TJ is equivalent to Harvard and Yale, but after viewing the TJ college matriculation list, a ticket to RIT, JMU, GMU, or CWR does not warrant all this sturm und drang.

Schools you have listed are for bottom 10% of the graduating class mostly made up of URMs.

And top 20% of grads from base high schools would be headed to those schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would think that an admit to TJ is equivalent to Harvard and Yale, but after viewing the TJ college matriculation list, a ticket to RIT, JMU, GMU, or CWR does not warrant all this sturm und drang.

Schools you have listed are for bottom 10% of the graduating class mostly made up of URMs.

So 90% of TJ's students are in the bottom 10% of the class? ::

[Anonymous]

That’s right. 90% of TJ grads go to GMU and JMU. You are right. That’s why everyone is angling to get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s right. 90% of TJ grads go to GMU and JMU. You are right. That’s why everyone is angling to get in.