Thanks, Antonia! |
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As far as I'm concerned, it's not about black or white, green or purple. Most parents, whether black, white, green or purple who want a good life for their kids do not want them in a school environment that's full of disruption that prevents learning. And most of us don't care if the source of that disruption is black, white, green or purple. As far as I'm concerned, it's about behavior. I don't give a damn about someone's race or income, I've seen bad behavior from all races and all income levels.
You are free to choose to view that as racist if you like, but that action of how you interpret it is entirely on your own part. Your choice, but I'd consider it a lot more productive and useful to instead focus on the behavior rather than crying racism and trying to change me from a the rhinoceros you think I am into the buffalo you'd maybe want me to be, neither of which is what I am or will be. |
This is a good and valid point. However, I have seen many a white parent (and teachers, black and white) give white disruptors - sometimes, frankly, arrogant little brats whose parents let kids run the show - the benefit of the doubt (well she's tired, well he's a boy, you know s-he has a little ADD) - but not give the same breaks to black children. (FYI, I am white.) |
That might be true for you, but if you objectively read some of the posts in this thread, that is not the case for all. |
| I am sick and tired of the sick and tired-azzes. |
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Sure, no one wants their child in a classroom full of disruption. And, from what I've seen, the classrooms at LT aren't full of disruption. They are, however, full of black children -- and people here apparently assume a class full of black children must be full of disruption. |
Yep, that's the part that bothers me about this conversation. No one wants their kid to endure a class full of disruption but I see a lot of assumptions being made across the board about low-income black children. Sad. |
| 12:58 here, that was a general statement, I did not mean to specifically suggest L-T classrooms were disruptive. |
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Question for Antonia, if she's still around....
You mentioned that you were OOB for L-T. What made you choose that school for your children? It sounds like you're happy with your decision. What are the school's strengths or what do you like best about L-T? Are your children doing well? |
Yep, that's the part that bothers me about this conversation. No one wants their kid to endure a class full of disruption but I see a lot of assumptions being made across the board about low-income black children. Sad. What bothers me about this conversation, and L-T's situation is the lack of practicality and focus. The neighborhood is no longer populated predominantly by low-income black children. You can argue about assumptions being made about such kids until you're blue in the face without changing anything. What is obviously true is that most high-SES parents in the Stanton Park neighborhood won't put their kids in majority AA classes, because AA is highly correlated with socially and academically challenged in DCPS. Maybe a 1/4 of these are OK with sending their kids to majority AA classes (mostly very liberal whites, vs. high-SES black parents). To effect change, you need to draw in IB parents, who are mostly white, as a group to K. To attract them, you need to talk to them, to engage them. The starting point has to be Cobbs going with her PG County address cheating supporters. |
| Well whining about it isn't going to change anything and I see a lot of whining going on in this thread. |
What bothers me about this conversation, and L-T's situation is the lack of practicality and focus. The neighborhood is no longer populated predominantly by low-income black children. You can argue about assumptions being made about such kids until you're blue in the face without changing anything. What is obviously true is that most high-SES parents in the Stanton Park neighborhood won't put their kids in majority AA classes, because AA is highly correlated with socially and academically challenged in DCPS. Maybe a 1/4 of these are OK with sending their kids to majority AA classes (mostly very liberal whites, vs. high-SES black parents). To effect change, you need to draw in IB parents, who are mostly white, as a group to K. To attract them, you need to talk to them, to engage them. The starting point has to be Cobbs going with her PG County address cheating supporters. Practical and focused or not, you will never ever get anywhere with DCPS or elected leaders with the logic you employ above. And if this attitude runs through the dealings LT inboundary families is predominant I am not at all surprised that you all haven't gotten anywhere with the principal or DCPS. It's a losing proposition in our city to take this tack. |
Thanks for clarifying that. I think it's important because previously it was possible to assume that's what you meant. Good to know it's not. |
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If you want to kick out kids who you think are from PG you'd first have to prove it and DCPS requires more evidence than and internet rumor board saying "I saw a kid getting picked up a car with MD plates"
Barring that if enough IB parents enrolled their kids into LT they'd effectively kick out enough OOB kids because of the loss of OOB slots. Heck LT could easily become the next brent if the neighborhood demographics are as high SES as DCUMers claim. |