Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses priced appropriately?

Anonymous
Here we go. Pictures from the previous listing:

https://www.longandfoster.com/homes-for-sale/645-Lexington-Place-NE-Washington-DC-20002-288993377

Yeah, this needed a lot of work, and I'm not sure anything but a total gutting was in the cards for this house. Still, it makes me sad to see. Once upon a time, this wasn't fancy, but it was affordable. Now it's just one more soulless house for rich people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:BTW, the previous listing said that 645 Lexington Pl. was 1818 finished square feet, with 1280 above ground and 538 below. The new listing has it at 2490 sqft. I don't see an obvious pop-up from the pictures, but one of the BRs has the dormer windows, so maybe it's a combination of an attic conversion and a pop-up expansion behind the attic.


Lex house poster here - since we're in the historic district, the front with the dormer has to stay the same. It's definitely a pop up though from there. In these houses, it slopes back from the and the ceiling is quite low.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here we go. Pictures from the previous listing:

https://www.longandfoster.com/homes-for-sale/645-Lexington-Place-NE-Washington-DC-20002-288993377

Yeah, this needed a lot of work, and I'm not sure anything but a total gutting was in the cards for this house. Still, it makes me sad to see. Once upon a time, this wasn't fancy, but it was affordable. Now it's just one more soulless house for rich people.


Love that you found this. I can't believe the develop bought it for $875k, but I guess they knew what a good flip would get. I'm surprised they didn't salvage the garage.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here we go. Pictures from the previous listing:

https://www.longandfoster.com/homes-for-sale/645-Lexington-Place-NE-Washington-DC-20002-288993377

Yeah, this needed a lot of work, and I'm not sure anything but a total gutting was in the cards for this house. Still, it makes me sad to see. Once upon a time, this wasn't fancy, but it was affordable. Now it's just one more soulless house for rich people.


Love that you found this. I can't believe the develop bought it for $875k, but I guess they knew what a good flip would get. I'm surprised they didn't salvage the garage.


Thank you for the old listing. I walked down Lexington Place today and wow, it looks completely different. Houses like how this one was originally are few and far between. I can see this house going for almost $2 million. Lots of other upscale renos. They have holiday lights running down the entire block right now. Some families milling about. Definitely rich and white now. Excuse me while I go scrounge up some old episodes of 227 on the interwebz....
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here we go. Pictures from the previous listing:

https://www.longandfoster.com/homes-for-sale/645-Lexington-Place-NE-Washington-DC-20002-288993377

Yeah, this needed a lot of work, and I'm not sure anything but a total gutting was in the cards for this house. Still, it makes me sad to see. Once upon a time, this wasn't fancy, but it was affordable. Now it's just one more soulless house for rich people.


Look for this one to come back bigger and more expensive than ever within the next year. It sold to a developer last month for $750k without even hitting the open market.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/617-Lexington-Pl-NE-20002/home/9899029

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I'm the poster and I'm kinda glad to hear this. I live in one of these houses and kept the original wood and layout and often wonder what I should have done.....

I'll put in a vote for keeping the woodwork as the right way to go. Open-concept gut flips are—well, not a dime a dozen, unless by "dime" you mean $10 million. But once the woodwork has been ripped out, there's no going back. I'm convinced that in twenty years, people are going to look back at all these sterile gut renos and wonder what the heck people were thinking.

Also, from the realtor's blabber: "All new interior is true to spirit of original Arts and Crafts style." Um, no. An open-plan gut reno is in no way in any "spirit" of Arts & Crafts.

Sigh.

BTW, I can see the old listing with pictures on an MLS site, but I can't seem to find them anywhere public.


Setting aside the personal preference for old world charm vs clean and modern, I think there's a huge difference between open concept and the "one huge room" gut renos currently prevailing. The former allows for entertaining and having some line of sight to living spaces from the kitchen, but doesn't necessarily negate the idea of defined spaces and a kitchen where all your cooking business and mess isn't on full display. The latter (one big room) I simply hate. The steroid version of that is when they take a somewhat deep house (40 feet plus) and inexplicably put the kitchen smack dab in the middle of the floorplan. This breaks up the living spaces, makes it so the kitchen has no windows, and has people walking into the house directly into the kitchen. Only people who don't cook and have a show kitchen could possibly want that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For the Lexington Pl. fan from the summer

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/645-Lexington-Pl-NE-Washington-DC-20002/417269_zpid/?



That’s me! This thread made me laugh, because I stopped into this open house this weekend and it was literally like the block was doing a commercial for the house. There were about 20 people outside working together to string up the lights and then like 30 kids running around playing. (It looked almost normal except that everyone was masked and standing slightly awkwardly apart!) It seemed like a block that actually has the Capitol Hill small town vibe that people always gush about.
Anonymous
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/656-Orleans-Pl-NE-20002/home/9898038

Closed at $900k. I have been in DC and in this neighborhood for 20 years and I shouldn't be surprised anymore, but damn...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For the Lexington Pl. fan from the summer

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/645-Lexington-Pl-NE-Washington-DC-20002/417269_zpid/?



That’s me! This thread made me laugh, because I stopped into this open house this weekend and it was literally like the block was doing a commercial for the house. There were about 20 people outside working together to string up the lights and then like 30 kids running around playing. (It looked almost normal except that everyone was masked and standing slightly awkwardly apart!) It seemed like a block that actually has the Capitol Hill small town vibe that people always gush about.


And you WILL get odd/dirty looks if you walk down it and residents don't recognize you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/656-Orleans-Pl-NE-20002/home/9898038

Closed at $900k. I have been in DC and in this neighborhood for 20 years and I shouldn't be surprised anymore, but damn...


That house is really lovely. I know people aren’t sure about the proximity to Florida Ave, but the house itself is great. Really nice layout, outdoor space, the master suite is great, upgrades are thoughtful but it’s not a standard grayed out flip. I think 900k is just about right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/656-Orleans-Pl-NE-20002/home/9898038

Closed at $900k. I have been in DC and in this neighborhood for 20 years and I shouldn't be surprised anymore, but damn...


That house is really lovely. I know people aren’t sure about the proximity to Florida Ave, but the house itself is great. Really nice layout, outdoor space, the master suite is great, upgrades are thoughtful but it’s not a standard grayed out flip. I think 900k is just about right.


Maybe you have this house confused with another? Outdoor space? https://ssl.cdn-redfin.com/photo/235/bigphoto/928/DCDC495928_26_2.jpg I mean, there is a door to the outdoors so I guess that's something.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/656-Orleans-Pl-NE-20002/home/9898038

Closed at $900k. I have been in DC and in this neighborhood for 20 years and I shouldn't be surprised anymore, but damn...


That house is really lovely. I know people aren’t sure about the proximity to Florida Ave, but the house itself is great. Really nice layout, outdoor space, the master suite is great, upgrades are thoughtful but it’s not a standard grayed out flip. I think 900k is just about right.


Maybe you have this house confused with another? Outdoor space? https://ssl.cdn-redfin.com/photo/235/bigphoto/928/DCDC495928_26_2.jpg I mean, there is a door to the outdoors so I guess that's something.


NP, there's also a deck upstairs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/656-Orleans-Pl-NE-20002/home/9898038

Closed at $900k. I have been in DC and in this neighborhood for 20 years and I shouldn't be surprised anymore, but damn...


That house is really lovely. I know people aren’t sure about the proximity to Florida Ave, but the house itself is great. Really nice layout, outdoor space, the master suite is great, upgrades are thoughtful but it’s not a standard grayed out flip. I think 900k is just about right.


Maybe you have this house confused with another? Outdoor space? https://ssl.cdn-redfin.com/photo/235/bigphoto/928/DCDC495928_26_2.jpg I mean, there is a door to the outdoors so I guess that's something.


NP, there's also a deck upstairs.


I am the "lovely house" PP and yes, I was referring to the fact that there are two distinct, usable outdoor spaces. I know the back patio is small, but it would be more than enough for me (room for a grill, table and chairs, and some planters).

No parking is an issue though. That area can be hard to park in, even with the Zone 6 restricted parking, especially in the evening or on the weekend (during non-Covid times).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/656-Orleans-Pl-NE-20002/home/9898038

Closed at $900k. I have been in DC and in this neighborhood for 20 years and I shouldn't be surprised anymore, but damn...


That house is really lovely. I know people aren’t sure about the proximity to Florida Ave, but the house itself is great. Really nice layout, outdoor space, the master suite is great, upgrades are thoughtful but it’s not a standard grayed out flip. I think 900k is just about right.


Maybe you have this house confused with another? Outdoor space? https://ssl.cdn-redfin.com/photo/235/bigphoto/928/DCDC495928_26_2.jpg I mean, there is a door to the outdoors so I guess that's something.


NP, there's also a deck upstairs.


I am the "lovely house" PP and yes, I was referring to the fact that there are two distinct, usable outdoor spaces. I know the back patio is small, but it would be more than enough for me (room for a grill, table and chairs, and some planters).

No parking is an issue though. That area can be hard to park in, even with the Zone 6 restricted parking, especially in the evening or on the weekend (during non-Covid times).


That outdoor space is bounded on one side by a 2.5 story brick wall. You cannot be serious.
Anonymous
Curious what people think of this one, just on the market this week:

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/658-Morton-Pl-NE-20002/home/9898189

Two units (both 2 bed, 1 bath). I'm assuming if someone bought it to live in, you'd live upstairs and rent out the ground floor. For me, one of the draws would be the roof deck, though it needs some work. Still, the units are in good shape and I'm assuming you could rent out the income unit pretty easily and for closer to 3k than 2k (am I wrong about that?).
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