Spring 2017 soccer club tryouts

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Arlington Soccer post tryout results online? So instead of a caring phone call from a coach role model, young boys and girls find out online that their coach moved them down 1 or 2 teams, and then the family just goes the whole summer with no courtesy call from the coach and starts up in the Fall with the new team/coach??? Wondering how it works from those who have already been through this. I know players moving up get LOTS of contact and feedback pre-tryouts about their potential movement, but do the Arlington coaches really blow off the players moved down and never even five the player feedback or explanation?

Or maybe it is just the bad coaches? Or maybe feedback is only for the players and families that bother to follow up and ask for an explamation , although I imagine most aren't apt to bother doing that for obvious reasons. TIA.

Some have been give no indication they will. E cut. Evaluations don't include any helpful info. In fact, seen praise and then the following week demotion. It's fucking weird.

That's unbelievable to me. You have a coach for an entire year, they say nothing before tryouts, move you down on some Internet public posting, say nothing after tryouts and nothing all summer. Am I missing another point of view here? How is this not outrageous? I would think coaches care about players. There has to be some reason . . .

From my experience in travel soccer, you would be wrong.

My son tried out for travel for the first time this year and they separated the kids into those who were on travel now and those who were new. The ones who were new barely got a look. Why have everyone try out again if you aren't going to give consideration to all the players? It felt like such a farce. I know my kid is pretty good as he has made other teams but ASA is the most convenient for us and the whole thing was just a big fake show.

It isn't the only fake show around. I am realizing it happens pretty much everywhere. My kid was on the lower end of a A team mainly due to lack of speed and aggressiveness at U9. His touch and technique are leaps above many on his team but he wasn't even paired with his own teammates at tryouts while new kids from a different club get new looks and their parents are offering themselves as a packaged deal bump off boys that don't help the team win the U-Little World Cup. American Youth Soccer is a shit show all around. Clubs say it's all for development at this age but their nature is to develop the winning team even at the lowest of ages. The coaches might not even realize what they are doing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Arlington Soccer post tryout results online? So instead of a caring phone call from a coach role model, young boys and girls find out online that their coach moved them down 1 or 2 teams, and then the family just goes the whole summer with no courtesy call from the coach and starts up in the Fall with the new team/coach??? Wondering how it works from those who have already been through this. I know players moving up get LOTS of contact and feedback pre-tryouts about their potential movement, but do the Arlington coaches really blow off the players moved down and never even five the player feedback or explanation?

Or maybe it is just the bad coaches? Or maybe feedback is only for the players and families that bother to follow up and ask for an explamation , although I imagine most aren't apt to bother doing that for obvious reasons. TIA.

Some have been give no indication they will. E cut. Evaluations don't include any helpful info. In fact, seen praise and then the following week demotion. It's fucking weird.

That's unbelievable to me. You have a coach for an entire year, they say nothing before tryouts, move you down on some Internet public posting, say nothing after tryouts and nothing all summer. Am I missing another point of view here? How is this not outrageous? I would think coaches care about players. There has to be some reason . . .

From my experience in travel soccer, you would be wrong.

My son tried out for travel for the first time this year and they separated the kids into those who were on travel now and those who were new. The ones who were new barely got a look. Why have everyone try out again if you aren't going to give consideration to all the players? It felt like such a farce. I know my kid is pretty good as he has made other teams but ASA is the most convenient for us and the whole thing was just a big fake show.

It isn't the only fake show around. I am realizing it happens pretty much everywhere. My kid was on the lower end of a A team mainly due to lack of speed and aggressiveness at U9. His touch and technique are leaps above many on his team but he wasn't even paired with his own teammates at tryouts while new kids from a different club get new looks and their parents are offering themselves as a packaged deal bump off boys that don't help the team win the U-Little World Cup. American Youth Soccer is a shit show all around. Clubs say it's all for development at this age but their nature is to develop the winning team even at the lowest of ages. The coaches might not even realize what they are doing.

I get what you're saying about the process but are you also saying that if x number of new kids show and are better than your kid that they don't deserve to play on the higher team than your kid. Unfortunately if the try outs are open than your child does run the chance of being bumped down to a lower level team. Just because he was on the u-what ever team the last year he is not guaranteed a spot. The coach should offer feedback as to why though.

[Anonymous]

Has anyone noticed that the last two posts say the following?

1. Youth soccer is a joke. At tryouts, they only look at the people who are already with the club, not any of the new people.

2. Youth soccer is a joke. At tryouts, they bring in a bunch of new people and bump out the people who have been with the club.

But we can all agree youth soccer is a joke, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Why does Arlington Soccer post tryout results online? So instead of a caring phone call from a coach role model, young boys and girls find out online that their coach moved them down 1 or 2 teams, and then the family just goes the whole summer with no courtesy call from the coach and starts up in the Fall with the new team/coach??? Wondering how it works from those who have already been through this. I know players moving up get LOTS of contact and feedback pre-tryouts about their potential movement, but do the Arlington coaches really blow off the players moved down and never even five the player feedback or explanation?

Or maybe it is just the bad coaches? Or maybe feedback is only for the players and families that bother to follow up and ask for an explamation , although I imagine most aren't apt to bother doing that for obvious reasons. TIA.

Some have been give no indication they will. E cut. Evaluations don't include any helpful info. In fact, seen praise and then the following week demotion. It's fucking weird.

That's unbelievable to me. You have a coach for an entire year, they say nothing before tryouts, move you down on some Internet public posting, say nothing after tryouts and nothing all summer. Am I missing another point of view here? How is this not outrageous? I would think coaches care about players. There has to be some reason . . .

From my experience in travel soccer, you would be wrong.

My son tried out for travel for the first time this year and they separated the kids into those who were on travel now and those who were new. The ones who were new barely got a look. Why have everyone try out again if you aren't going to give consideration to all the players? It felt like such a farce. I know my kid is pretty good as he has made other teams but ASA is the most convenient for us and the whole thing was just a big fake show.

It isn't the only fake show around. I am realizing it happens pretty much everywhere. My kid was on the lower end of a A team mainly due to lack of speed and aggressiveness at U9. His touch and technique are leaps above many on his team but he wasn't even paired with his own teammates at tryouts while new kids from a different club get new looks and their parents are offering themselves as a packaged deal bump off boys that don't help the team win the U-Little World Cup. American Youth Soccer is a shit show all around. Clubs say it's all for development at this age but their nature is to develop the winning team even at the lowest of ages. The coaches might not even realize what they are doing.

I get what you're saying about the process but are you also saying that if x number of new kids show and are better than your kid that they don't deserve to play on the higher team than your kid. Unfortunately if the try outs are open than your child does run the chance of being bumped down to a lower level team. Just because he was on the u-what ever team the last year he is not guaranteed a spot. The coach should offer feedback as to why though.

If the new kids are better then they absolutely deserve to be on the team over existing players. It just goes back to what has been mentioned on this thread many times....define better? At the younger ages, speed/size will still beat slower/smaller technical players. So if the goal is to build a winning team this early then I absolutely understand why my DS would get bumped down for a more athletic, less skilled kid.

[Anonymous]

^^the goal should not be winning games/tournaments at U9-u11.

Just taking on big kids that might be dwarfed by 14 anyways does nothing for skill.

Plus-- Pulisic is 5'8". He was teeny tiny as a kid/pre-teen.

You are an idiot troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone noticed that the last two posts say the following?

1. Youth soccer is a joke. At tryouts, they only look at the people who are already with the club, not any of the new people.

2. Youth soccer is a joke. At tryouts, they bring in a bunch of new people and bump out the people who have been with the club.

But we can all agree youth soccer is a joke, right?

Of the tryouts we went to they were well run and existing A players were mixed in with new players (I know because we attended a few practices). I honestly think my son got a fair evaluation this time and was looked at by various coaches. Some coaches look at fast strong and some look for more skilled but perhaps smaller/slower. Opted for a club with a bigger pool of kids so my son is paired with players at his level or better. At the end of the day clubs are business and want your money but if they balance it with solid coaching and some competitive games we will gladly pay.

So I would say it ultimately depends but can't say I call it a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does Arlington Soccer post tryout results online? So instead of a caring phone call from a coach role model, young boys and girls find out online that their coach moved them down 1 or 2 teams, and then the family just goes the whole summer with no courtesy call from the coach and starts up in the Fall with the new team/coach??? Wondering how it works from those who have already been through this. I know players moving up get LOTS of contact and feedback pre-tryouts about their potential movement, but do the Arlington coaches really blow off the players moved down and never even five the player feedback or explanation?

Or maybe it is just the bad coaches? Or maybe feedback is only for the players and families that bother to follow up and ask for an explamation , although I imagine most aren't apt to bother doing that for obvious reasons. TIA.

Some have been give no indication they will. E cut. Evaluations don't include any helpful info. In fact, seen praise and then the following week demotion. It's fucking weird.

That's unbelievable to me. You have a coach for an entire year, they say nothing before tryouts, move you down on some Internet public posting, say nothing after tryouts and nothing all summer. Am I missing another point of view here? How is this not outrageous? I would think coaches care about players. There has to be some reason . . .

From my experience in travel soccer, you would be wrong.

My son tried out for travel for the first time this year and they separated the kids into those who were on travel now and those who were new. The ones who were new barely got a look. Why have everyone try out again if you aren't going to give consideration to all the players? It felt like such a farce. I know my kid is pretty good as he has made other teams but ASA is the most convenient for us and the whole thing was just a big fake show.

It isn't the only fake show around. I am realizing it happens pretty much everywhere. My kid was on the lower end of a A team mainly due to lack of speed and aggressiveness at U9. His touch and technique are leaps above many on his team but he wasn't even paired with his own teammates at tryouts while new kids from a different club get new looks and their parents are offering themselves as a packaged deal bump off boys that don't help the team win the U-Little World Cup. American Youth Soccer is a shit show all around. Clubs say it's all for development at this age but their nature is to develop the winning team even at the lowest of ages. The coaches might not even realize what they are doing.

I get what you're saying about the process but are you also saying that if x number of new kids show and are better than your kid that they don't deserve to play on the higher team than your kid. Unfortunately if the try outs are open than your child does run the chance of being bumped down to a lower level team. Just because he was on the u-what ever team the last year he is not guaranteed a spot. The coach should offer feedback as to why though.

If the new kids are better then they absolutely deserve to be on the team over existing players. It just goes back to what has been mentioned on this thread many times....define better? At the younger ages, speed/size will still beat slower/smaller technical players. So if the goal is to build a winning team this early then I absolutely understand why my DS would get bumped down for a more athletic, less skilled kid.

Just had our first coach who prefferrrd big bit slow kids over fast smaller kids. Games were painful because big kids would run out of steam halfway through first half.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does Arlington Soccer post tryout results online? So instead of a caring phone call from a coach role model, young boys and girls find out online that their coach moved them down 1 or 2 teams, and then the family just goes the whole summer with no courtesy call from the coach and starts up in the Fall with the new team/coach??? Wondering how it works from those who have already been through this. I know players moving up get LOTS of contact and feedback pre-tryouts about their potential movement, but do the Arlington coaches really blow off the players moved down and never even five the player feedback or explanation?

Or maybe it is just the bad coaches? Or maybe feedback is only for the players and families that bother to follow up and ask for an explamation , although I imagine most aren't apt to bother doing that for obvious reasons. TIA.

Some have been give no indication they will. E cut. Evaluations don't include any helpful info. In fact, seen praise and then the following week demotion. It's fucking weird.

That's unbelievable to me. You have a coach for an entire year, they say nothing before tryouts, move you down on some Internet public posting, say nothing after tryouts and nothing all summer. Am I missing another point of view here? How is this not outrageous? I would think coaches care about players. There has to be some reason . . .

From my experience in travel soccer, you would be wrong.

My son tried out for travel for the first time this year and they separated the kids into those who were on travel now and those who were new. The ones who were new barely got a look. Why have everyone try out again if you aren't going to give consideration to all the players? It felt like such a farce. I know my kid is pretty good as he has made other teams but ASA is the most convenient for us and the whole thing was just a big fake show.

It isn't the only fake show around. I am realizing it happens pretty much everywhere. My kid was on the lower end of a A team mainly due to lack of speed and aggressiveness at U9. His touch and technique are leaps above many on his team but he wasn't even paired with his own teammates at tryouts while new kids from a different club get new looks and their parents are offering themselves as a packaged deal bump off boys that don't help the team win the U-Little World Cup. American Youth Soccer is a shit show all around. Clubs say it's all for development at this age but their nature is to develop the winning team even at the lowest of ages. The coaches might not even realize what they are doing.

Yup. Same for the girls too.

[Anonymous]

How often do kids who are slow at ages 10-11 speed up later?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How often do kids who are slow at ages 10-11 speed up later?

I guess this is a little older, but my son is on a U12 team, and the kids that are big and tall also tend to be slow. DH says they likely haven't grown into their size yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How often do kids who are slow at ages 10-11 speed up later?

I can't answer in general but my older son was chubby and slow at 10-11 and then between 7th/8th grade grew 8 inches, slimmed out and now is markedly faster. He made the team he didn't make the year before when he was chubby and slow. We didn't bother to try out again for the one that told him he would never be a travel soccer player at U9. These kids can change so much when they hit puberty, for better or worse. Puberty happened to be kind to my son.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How often do kids who are slow at ages 10-11 speed up later?

I can't answer in general but my older son was chubby and slow at 10-11 and then between 7th/8th grade grew 8 inches, slimmed out and now is markedly faster. He made the team he didn't make the year before when he was chubby and slow. We didn't bother to try out again for the one that told him he would never be a travel soccer player at U9. These kids can change so much when they hit puberty, for better or worse. Puberty happened to be kind to my son.

Yep. My kid was an enormous chubby baby/toddler and a husky (but fast) first/2nd grader.

Theyboegged him as slow his first year of tryouts---mainly by first sight. He excelled greatly and his. Is h kept telling RD and those above they made a placement mistake but to deaf ears.

He is now 11.5 and one of the younger U12s and now dwarfed by the middle schoolers on his team. Now as one of the smaller kids on his current team--he plays whole game and is a clutch player.

The first club left such a sore taste in my mouth. Ironically, all of the kids they praised and said were unbelievable at 8--none of them are on the Ateam 3 years later. Many are in the lowest team going into U13 and their parents are pissed.

[Anonymous]

^^that was his first coach kept telling TD and age group head to move him up--

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone noticed that the last two posts say the following?

1. Youth soccer is a joke. At tryouts, they only look at the people who are already with the club, not any of the new people.

2. Youth soccer is a joke. At tryouts, they bring in a bunch of new people and bump out the people who have been with the club.

But we can all agree youth soccer is a joke, right?

You mad? If your kid is good, he/she will be spotted. Coaches always have 10-20% of the roster on the bubble or vacant to give room to a potential new add on. I'm blunt to most parents on the sidelines, "if your kid is top team material we will all see it."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone noticed that the last two posts say the following?

1. Youth soccer is a joke. At tryouts, they only look at the people who are already with the club, not any of the new people.

2. Youth soccer is a joke. At tryouts, they bring in a bunch of new people and bump out the people who have been with the club.

But we can all agree youth soccer is a joke, right?

You mad? If your kid is good, he/she will be spotted. Coaches always have 10-20% of the roster on the bubble or vacant to give room to a potential new add on. I'm blunt to most parents on the sidelines, "if your kid is top team material we will all see it."

I think the point sailed over your head. Read 1 and 2 again and compare.