8 Skiers dead after accidental Avalanche in California!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely davastating! my thoughts and prayers are with the families right now.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62dke15357o

Can you imagine heading out for a day of fun and then, THIS??

What is an "accidental" avalanche?

Versus a deliberately triggered avalanche.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely davastating! my thoughts and prayers are with the families right now.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62dke15357o

Can you imagine heading out for a day of fun and then, THIS??

What is an "accidental" avalanche?

Versus a deliberately triggered avalanche.

There are tons of intentional avalanches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely davastating! my thoughts and prayers are with the families right now.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62dke15357o

Can you imagine heading out for a day of fun and then, THIS??

What is an "accidental" avalanche?

Versus a deliberately triggered avalanche.

But this was just an avalanche. It wasn't an "accidental avalanche." Shit just happens. There was no need whatsoever for the weird modifier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely davastating! my thoughts and prayers are with the families right now.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62dke15357o

Can you imagine heading out for a day of fun and then, THIS??

What is an "accidental" avalanche?

Versus a deliberately triggered avalanche.

But this was just an avalanche. It wasn't an "accidental avalanche." Shit just happens. There was no need whatsoever for the weird modifier.

You think the avalanche just happened right as the skiers went past? Bad timing?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like we’re so cooked as a society.

- people now blindly follow “guides” and have lost the ability to think for themselves.

- our lives are unfulfilled and boring and we need extreme excursions to bring us back to life

- we continue to hold moms to a higher standard.

- someone in this thread was hurt by an intelligent woman or something, and it shows. It’s one thing to point out that the guides - men and a woman - and the guests - men and women - made dumb decisions. It’s another thing to smugly fixate on the women, their jobs, their colleges. It’s weird.

I hold parents to a higher standard when it comes to risk taking. You have responsibilities.

Do you eat processed foods? If so, why don’t you take better care of your health? Do you drink alcohol? Are you not aware of how bad for your body that is? I could go on and on, but to listen to you people judge these skiers from your armchairs with your Diet Coke in hand is obnoxious.

Oh dear. There’s a whole lotta real estate between someone having a bag of chips and going backcountry skiing in a snow storm. Hyperbole doesn’t make an argument valid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like we’re so cooked as a society.

- people now blindly follow “guides” and have lost the ability to think for themselves.

- our lives are unfulfilled and boring and we need extreme excursions to bring us back to life

- we continue to hold moms to a higher standard.

- someone in this thread was hurt by an intelligent woman or something, and it shows. It’s one thing to point out that the guides - men and a woman - and the guests - men and women - made dumb decisions. It’s another thing to smugly fixate on the women, their jobs, their colleges. It’s weird.

I hold parents to a higher standard when it comes to risk taking. You have responsibilities.

Do you eat processed foods? If so, why don’t you take better care of your health? Do you drink alcohol? Are you not aware of how bad for your body that is? I could go on and on, but to listen to you people judge these skiers from your armchairs with your Diet Coke in hand is obnoxious.

Oh dear. There’s a whole lotta real estate between someone having a bag of chips and going backcountry skiing in a snow storm. Hyperbole doesn’t make an argument valid.

+1 Exactly! Hard to believe the disparity needs to be explained.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely davastating! my thoughts and prayers are with the families right now.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62dke15357o

Can you imagine heading out for a day of fun and then, THIS??

What is an "accidental" avalanche?

Versus a deliberately triggered avalanche.

But this was just an avalanche. It wasn't an "accidental avalanche." Shit just happens. There was no need whatsoever for the weird modifier.

That makes it accidental vs avalanches that are triggered using techniques such as explosives to make skiiing areas more safe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For another perspective, read this article from Outside: https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/snow-sports/tahoe-avalanche-truckee-memorial-moms/

This is some duuumb self-congratulatory rationalization.

What's dumb about it?

What’s intelligent about it?

Notice how the author reduces these women to just "moms". I'm sure they would hate that since so much of this is about not losing their sense of self and not just being wives, mothers, employees, sense of self, freedom.. But, this author just calls them 'moms'. The same women would probably bristle if the pediatrician walked in the exam room and just referred to them as "mom" during a child's appointment, instead of bothering to learn her name.

What author? Certainly not the author of the NYT’s article.

The one we're talking about.

That author listed each victim’s profession.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely davastating! my thoughts and prayers are with the families right now.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62dke15357o

Can you imagine heading out for a day of fun and then, THIS??

What is an "accidental" avalanche?

Versus a deliberately triggered avalanche.

But this was just an avalanche. It wasn't an "accidental avalanche." Shit just happens. There was no need whatsoever for the weird modifier.

That makes it accidental vs avalanches that are triggered using techniques such as explosives to make skiiing areas more safe.

+1. The fact that some posters don’t even know this occurs explains so much about some of the commentary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely davastating! my thoughts and prayers are with the families right now.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62dke15357o

Can you imagine heading out for a day of fun and then, THIS??

What is an "accidental" avalanche?

Versus a deliberately triggered avalanche.

But this was just an avalanche. It wasn't an "accidental avalanche." Shit just happens. There was no need whatsoever for the weird modifier.

That makes it accidental vs avalanches that are triggered using techniques such as explosives to make skiiing areas more safe.

+1. The fact that some posters don’t even know this occurs explains so much about some of the commentary.

When skiers trigger an avalanche, that's not just accidental.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely davastating! my thoughts and prayers are with the families right now.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62dke15357o

Can you imagine heading out for a day of fun and then, THIS??

What is an "accidental" avalanche?

Versus a deliberately triggered avalanche.

But this was just an avalanche. It wasn't an "accidental avalanche." Shit just happens. There was no need whatsoever for the weird modifier.

That makes it accidental vs avalanches that are triggered using techniques such as explosives to make skiiing areas more safe.

+1. The fact that some posters don’t even know this occurs explains so much about some of the commentary.

Like an accidental shark attack?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like we’re so cooked as a society.

- people now blindly follow “guides” and have lost the ability to think for themselves.

- our lives are unfulfilled and boring and we need extreme excursions to bring us back to life

- we continue to hold moms to a higher standard.

- someone in this thread was hurt by an intelligent woman or something, and it shows. It’s one thing to point out that the guides - men and a woman - and the guests - men and women - made dumb decisions. It’s another thing to smugly fixate on the women, their jobs, their colleges. It’s weird.

Remember being told that we weren't allowed to question the experts and that doing own research is foolish?

Go back to 4chan

Never been there. First, you say listen to the experts. Then you blame them for listening to the experts and not asking questions. You can't have it both ways.

DP here - I agree with you. People on this thread are coming down HARD on the skiers for blindly taking the advice of the guides, but in reality, most people would have done the same thing. Our society has set up a system where people don't think for themselves, be it skiing down a mountain or taking a vaccine or taking a certain medication.

(And for the record, I am a huge supporter of vaccines. I am fully vaccinated. But I think people who do their own research (actual research, not TikTok) should be applauded, not derided).

I disagree. Most intelligent people take the time to read weather reports before taking a trip and would cancel or postpone if especially heavy snowfall or hurricanes were predicted.

Are you posting from somewhere in Alabama? I don’t think you understand what weather forecasts look like in that area at that time of year. Or anywhere in the mountains, for that matter.

Along those lines, do you think your opinion is more valid than the people who actually participate in back country skiing? If so, why? If not, maybe no one needs to hear what you have to say.

The truth clearly hit on your nerves. A back country skier defending the risks. (And, no, I'm not in Alabama.)

I’m not a back country skier. I’m just someone who knows that I don’t know more than any of the people who were on the mountain that day so I’m not in a place to second guess them. Also, they’re dead, so I’m not going to be disrespectful. I understand that you think your unfounded opinions are worth a lot. I disagree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely davastating! my thoughts and prayers are with the families right now.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62dke15357o

Can you imagine heading out for a day of fun and then, THIS??

What is an "accidental" avalanche?

Like a satellite falls from the sky on a bright clear winter day and…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely davastating! my thoughts and prayers are with the families right now.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62dke15357o

Can you imagine heading out for a day of fun and then, THIS??

What is an "accidental" avalanche?

Versus a deliberately triggered avalanche.

But this was just an avalanche. It wasn't an "accidental avalanche." Shit just happens. There was no need whatsoever for the weird modifier.

That makes it accidental vs avalanches that are triggered using techniques such as explosives to make skiiing areas more safe.

+1. The fact that some posters don’t even know this occurs explains so much about some of the commentary.

When skiers trigger an avalanche, that's not just accidental.

When a ton of snow dumps in short order and recreates a severe angle, then there’s an avalanche as it heaves off, that’s not accidental either. Gravity isn’t accidental.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely davastating! my thoughts and prayers are with the families right now.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62dke15357o

Can you imagine heading out for a day of fun and then, THIS??

What is an "accidental" avalanche?

Versus a deliberately triggered avalanche.

But this was just an avalanche. It wasn't an "accidental avalanche." Shit just happens. There was no need whatsoever for the weird modifier.

Safety is never accidental.